Now that Moto has an official unlock for the Photon Q LTE, is there a way to extrapolate what is needed to unlock OUR bootloader?
I've made peace with not having 4G, but at the same time, Sprint's 3G network is painfully slow....
Just wondering. Thanks in advance!!
celloevan said:
Now that Moto has an official unlock for the Photon Q LTE, is there a way to extrapolate what is needed to unlock OUR bootloader?
I've made peace with not having 4G, but at the same time, Sprint's 3G network is painfully slow....
Just wondering. Thanks in advance!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1848352
Don't expect 4G anytime soon or ever really.
I find that strange. Is the Photon Q that much different from the Photon 4G that the unlock tool can't be modified to unlock both?
SUPERNUMBER said:
I find that strange. Is the Photon Q that much different from the Photon 4G that the unlock tool can't be modified to unlock both?
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Moto apparently provides you with a code depending on the phone. Without that phone specific code it wont work. Just the way it is I'm afraid. But never say never! But just because the phone has the word photon in its name doesn't mean anything. Literally every aspect of the q is different from og photon.
Unlock oem command is not implemented in Sunfire bootloaders (except derpunlock bootloader). I guess, we will need an update from Motorola with unlockable bootloader first.
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Unlock oem command is not implemented in Sunfire bootloaders (except derpunlock bootloader). I guess, we will need an update from Motorola with unlockable bootloader first.
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And we wouldn't be able to extract the bootloader from an SBF for the Photon Q because they are hardware specific, correct?
Has anyone ever explored letting the phone boot with stock recovery /kernel and then re-loading custom kernels through some sort of kexec implementation? (Or is this not possible because the stock /boot partition is signed?)
Thanks your answers.... just trying to learn the ins & outs
PS... esp. thanks to peetr_ for this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1759997
Photon Q is very different piece of hardware = nothing useful for us.
I believe, kexec could be working. It's working on Bionic, Razr and Droid 4, I think. But we have no such man in the Sunfire community, that would make it possible.
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http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/25/2585820/motorola-droid-razr-source-code-released
Huh? Says "Motorola has been pretty good with the developer community in recent times, with a tool to unlock the bootloader available soon after the phone launched"
That can't be right, right? Also, says source code was released but not a peep of it on this board which is much more in tune with this stuff normally on whatever phone I've had (like 6 using custom roms, etc).
Anyone chime in on the bootloader / source code availability from Motorola and what this means towards GB/ICS development for the Droid Razr (VZW version specifically). Thanks,
Absolutely false. There isn't ANY tool to unlock the bootloader. It can't exist.
We need a NEW BOOTLOADER that will come with the damn ICS update.
kholk, your the expert here in this. I'm not to up on the bootloader thing but would like to know just a little bit so I can understand. Why is the ICS update so important for us to unlock the BL and why can't the current BL be worked on to try and find a way through? If an update can pushed to the phone that can unlock it why can't we kinda do the same. idunno, I probably sound stupid but that's cause I don't understand it I guess.
@kholk, thanks for the reply.
3 hours of reading on this tonight and another question...If VZW are the ones making Motorola keep the US version bootloader locked, what are we waiting to happen with ICS? Quite a few people I read have stated "bootloader will be unlocked with ICS"...but it's still up to VZW right?
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Why is the ICS update so important for us to unlock the BL and why can't the current BL be worked on to try and find a way through? If an update can pushed to the phone that can unlock it why can't we kinda do the same. idunno, I probably sound stupid but that's cause I don't understand it I guess.
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Our bootloader is encrypted and locked right now. The command to unlock it, moto-fastboot oem unlock, which is part of the bootloader, is disabled by Motorola currently, and they said that it won't be enabled until we get updated to ICS. The bootloader is encrypted and locked, so we can't edit it (if we could we'd have no reason to unlock it, mind you) and therefore we can't unlock it unless our update is signed by Motorola.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/11/motorola-droid-razr-source-code-rolls-out/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/droidrazr.motorola/
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Honestly, nobody really cares about the source right now, because if ROM makers decide to test their work and it for some reason doesn't work, they have to get a new RAZR, as we have no SBF for restoring.
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Honestly, nobody really cares about the source right now, because if ROM makers decide to test their work and it for some reason doesn't work, they have to get a new RAZR, as we have no SBF for restoring.
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But Isn't recent leaked fastboot image allow us to restore the phone?
EU RAZR owners, yes. But it won't work for North American users, where most devs are stationed.
Maybe a GSM bootloader can be flashed on CDMA too. The AP bootloader won't absolutely use any part of the BP so this is safe.
The problem is about signatures. We should see if the VZW RAZR accepts the same signatures of the GSM one and it can happen since the GSM RAZR is recognized as "cdma_spyder".
Nothing sure, they can ever make a phone to be recognized as another but still to have different signatures.
We need the ICS update because it will include a new bootloader with the "oem unlock" function enabled.
If the device wasn't signed we could have enabled it on the current bootloader and flashing the cracked one.
Since we need to sign with Motorola's keys everything goes flashed on there, we can't.
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Honestly, nobody really cares about the source right now, because if ROM makers decide to test their work and it for some reason doesn't work, they have to get a new RAZR, as we have no SBF for restoring.
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Thanks for the hospitable response.
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guys it may a bit late but a bit of digging on sorceforge you will find that moto have placed the
Droid RAZR OSS source for 6.5.1-73_DHD-11_TA-3
this is only for the 4g phones so no luck for our globals yet
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Thanks for the hospitable response.
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Sorry. It was early in the morning and I was a little edgy.
And yeah, the source is labeled DROID RAZR, the international version is called Motorola RAZR. however... I believe they are cross compatible outside of the radio, so this is still useful.
Greetings,
I have searched the forums for my answers as well as the web. I am getting a replacement razr from verizon. The rep told me if the phone was rooted or had an unlocked bootloader I would be charged $299. I know if I overlooked anything and this question has been answered I will catch hell .It must be said that I know nothing about rooting and this was my first venture. I used EternityProject EasyRootICS to root. My question is simple did that method of rooting unlock the bootloader on my razr. I wil use superusersu to unroot. Will I have issues with verizon.
Thank you for patience on my ignorance
Jeff
JW Johnson said:
Greetings,
I have searched the forums for my answers as well as the web. I am getting a replacement razr from verizon. The rep told me if the phone was rooted or had an unlocked bootloader I would be charged $299. I know if I overlooked anything and this question has been answered I will catch hell .It must be said that I know nothing about rooting and this was my first venture. I used EternityProject EasyRootICS to root. My question is simple did that method of rooting unlock the bootloader on my razr. I wil use superusersu to unroot. Will I have issues with verizon.
Thank you for patience on my ignorance
Jeff
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There is no way to unlock the bootloader so if you are rooted, you can simply fastboot the stock rom and you will be unrooted... The rep is an idiot and wants to scare you because if he knows what he is saying he will never tell you anything about unlocked bootloader on the razr as its impossible....
maarawoe said:
There is no way to unlock the bootloader so if you are rooted, you can simply fastboot the stock rom and you will be unrooted... The rep is an idiot and wants to scare you because if he knows what he is saying he will never tell you anything about unlocked bootloader on the razr as its impossible....
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Thanks for the fast reply. I do not know how to "fastboot the stock rom". Will doing a "full unroot" with superusersu be sufficient. Thank you
If you are stock other than root, i.e. you haven't flashed a leaked OTA or ROM, simply removing root will be sufficient. I would suggest also doing a factory reset.
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mrjinglesusa said:
If you are stock other than root, i.e. you haven't flashed a leaked OTA or ROM, simply removing root will be sufficient. I would suggest also doing a factory reset.
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Thanks all....you guys rock
maarawoe said:
There is no way to unlock the bootloader so if you are rooted, you can simply fastboot the stock rom and you will be unrooted... The rep is an idiot and wants to scare you because if he knows what he is saying he will never tell you anything about unlocked bootloader on the razr as its impossible....
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That is incorrect. The bootloader can be unlocked on the RAZR, but it will only unlock one of the dual core processors. Your "impossible" statement is invalid.
MyEntityRemains said:
That is incorrect. The bootloader can be unlocked on the RAZR, but it will only unlock one of the dual core processors. Your "impossible" statement is invalid.
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Perhaps you need to do some reading. There is currently no bootloader that is unlockable on the RAZR whether it be the xt909, xt910 or the verizon xt912 version. Some people do have RAZR's that are engineering samples with the efuse in engineering position allowing them full access. There is however a bypass (kexec by kholk) that allows users to load a custom kernel over top of the factory kernel. Currently the custom kernel can only activate one core however a newer version could possibly be in the works that supports ICS/JB and will allow the second core to be operational. This is not unlocking the bootloader but merely loading a custom kernel by the kexec command available in the kernel.
Regarding what the cs rep said, just do an unroot/factory wipe or better yet flash the fastboot for your respective version. There are several guides in the development section on how to do so using RSDLite.
MyEntityRemains said:
That is incorrect. The bootloader can be unlocked on the RAZR, but it will only unlock one of the dual core processors. Your "impossible" statement is invalid.
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On ICS there is no way to unlock or bypass our bootloader. Kexec is only available to GSM users on Gingerbread, it's not a bootloader unlock tool, it a bootloader bypass. Yes, it is practically impossible to unlock our bootloaders unless Motorola gives an unlock OTA or tool. The reason for this is that there is triple band RSA encryption on it, it would take an insane amount of time for even the most powerful computer that could be sold on the market today to unlock it.
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Perhaps you need to do some reading. There is currently no bootloader that is unlockable on the RAZR whether it be the xt909, xt910 or the verizon xt912 version. Some people do have RAZR's that are engineering samples with the efuse in engineering position allowing them full access. There is however a bypass (kexec by kholk) that allows users to load a custom kernel over top of the factory kernel. Currently the custom kernel can only activate one core however a newer version could possibly be in the works that supports ICS/JB and will allow the second core to be operational. This is not unlocking the bootloader but merely loading a custom kernel by the kexec command available in the kernel.
Regarding what the cs rep said, just do an unroot/factory wipe or better yet flash the fastboot for your respective version. There are several guides in the development section on how to do so using RSDLite.
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Unlocked/bypassed = same result!
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Unlocked/bypassed = same result!
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You also need to do some reading, Kexec is just a bypass for custom kernels not radios which is what you can get when it's unlocked. There are also many other things you have to rotk around when using Kexec.
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Just Quick Question :
I just buy MoPho Japanese version & it already Unlocked with the code that my friend buy & before i get started with this MoPho i just have a simple question : is it The Development for Unlock Bootloader - Root - CWM Recovery - Custom Rom - Custom Kernel is different between MoPho Japanese & US ..?? and can i flash stock rom US on Japanese MoPho and is there a chance that My MoPho will be Locked again if i flash Custom Rom ..??
Cheers
soomat said:
Just Quick Question :
I just buy MoPho Japanese version & it already Unlocked with the code that my friend buy & before i get started with this MoPho i just have a simple question : is it The Development for Unlock Bootloader - Root - CWM Recovery - Custom Rom - Custom Kernel is different between MoPho Japanese & US ..?? and can i flash stock rom US on Japanese MoPho and is there a chance that My MoPho will be Locked again if i flash Custom Rom ..??
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Anyone ....???
soomat said:
Anyone ....???
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i don't think the japanese photon is unlockable. all you can do is root. since it's the same phone as the photon, anything and everything will work.
since you can't unlock you'll get no real custom roms like cm7, cm9 and all the other good stuff.
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i don't think the japanese photon is unlockable. all you can do is root. since it's the same phone as the photon, anything and everything will work.
since you can't unlock you'll get no real custom roms like cm7, cm9 and all the other good stuff.
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did you mean unlock bootloader is can't be done on Japanese Version..?? cause for GSM Ruim is already unlock permanently (buying the unlock code) btw like other device that i have, can i just flash Stock Sprint on my japanese photon cause like Samsung Galaxy Tab (7, 7+ or 10.1) it can flash firmware from other country or like samsung galaxy s captivate it can be flash rom that base from galaxy s i9000 is it can be do the same thing with my photon ..??
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Make dump of mmcblk0p1, mmcblk0p10 and mmcblk0p11 send me and I will tell you, if you can be unlocked.
peetr_ said:
Make dump of mmcblk0p1, mmcblk0p10 and mmcblk0p11 send me and I will tell you, if you can be unlocked.
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same with my problem.. I using photon KDDI to. and it cannot be unlock using android sdk windows. when I tried to unlock bootloader using android sdk windows, it says "INFOOEM is not implemented".. very suck.. I think photon KDDI is very suck..
can you help me? I want to using sprint stock.
gotohell_isw11m said:
same with my problem.. I using photon KDDI to. and it cannot be unlock using android sdk windows. when I tried to unlock bootloader using android sdk windows, it says "INFOOEM is not implemented".. very suck.. I think photon KDDI is very suck..
can you help me? I want to using sprint stock.
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From what I have heard the photon kddi can be unlocked if it is on old enough firmware, motorola made the same perma-locking update for it that they did with the photon 4g and electrify. It would also be useful have a sbf for it, there were apparently some floating around on some japanese websites, if you know japanese maybe you could ask for someone to send you it.
I don't think that bootloader is different. Probably same as US version. Radio and system are different.
i need help im root the motorola photon, but not how to unlock the bootloader need a tutorial or something to help me for this last version and just like adding custom roms have given root access to the cell phone please help
If your on 2.3.5(latest OTA) you can't unlock bootloader you can only root/use bootstrap
Edit: To root search here on XDA for the Photon Torpedo method and that *should* work IIRC on 2.3.5 just fine. You can flash P-Roms with bootstrap but not full on ROMS like CM9/CM10/MIUI/ETC without having an unlocked bootloader
Confirmation.....
So just to confirm..... If you don't already have an unlocked boot loader and your on the latest OTA update (mines 45.4.13.MB855.Sprint.en.US --> The one with 1080p Camcorder) their is no current method to get it unlocked?
Pihrana said:
So just to confirm..... If you don't already have an unlocked boot loader and your on the latest OTA update (mines 45.4.13.MB855.Sprint.en.US --> The one with 1080p Camcorder) their is no current method to get it unlocked?
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No. You can't go backwards to a previous android version either. So please don't just go flashing SBF's thinking it's possible. That seems to be a trend here lately haha.
If you are on its 2.3.5 then don't try to do anything.
You won't be able to flash back to stock even if it is soft bricked as no sbf available right now.
Better stay with current rom and don't even think to mess with it unless devs will come up with some sort of solution.
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Depressing news for sure. I just decided yesterday to pull the trigger on upgrading to the JB CM10 Beta as I want to love my phone again, and now I realise that I have missed the boat Luckily I have a Xoom with Team EOS Stingray JB Nightly 124 so I do still get a JB fix but it still burns.......
unlock from moto
Pihrana said:
Depressing news for sure. I just decided yesterday to pull the trigger on upgrading to the JB CM10 Beta as I want to love my phone again, and now I realise that I have missed the boat Luckily I have a Xoom with Team EOS Stingray JB Nightly 124 so I do still get a JB fix but it still burns.......
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here is a link to moto site to unlock https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
you have to sign a waiver to proceed saying your warranty is voided and I have not tried it but it seems moto is finally stepping up.
affiatic said:
here is a link to moto site to unlock https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
you have to sign a waiver to proceed saying your warranty is voided and I have not tried it but it seems moto is finally stepping up.
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Supported Devices
The following devices are part of our initial roll out of the bootloader unlock program; additional devices will be added progressively.Photon Q 4G LTE Sprint
Other Supported Devices
Previous devices released with an unlockable bootloader, and supported through Motodev at the following URL: https://developer.motorola.com/products/bootloader/
Motorola RAZR developer edition Europe
Motorola XOOM Verizon
Motorola XOOM Wifi Worldwide
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well hopefully the photon and the atrix both get added to the list. I have been searching both forums for any info I can find and that is the only bit of hope I have found. left my input on there survey for repair (not that it will get me anywhere)
affiatic said:
well hopefully the photon and the atrix both get added to the list. I have been searching both forums for any info I can find and that is the only bit of hope I have found. left my input on there survey for repair (not that it will get me anywhere)
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I don't think it is a coincidence that we get an OTA that perma-locks our bootloaders, and then a month or so later Moto drops this on us. Maybe they pushed that update so that it would be compatible with their unlocking tool?? food for thought.
R2DeeTard said:
I don't think it is a coincidence that we get an OTA that perma-locks our bootloaders, and then a month or so later Moto drops this on us. Maybe they pushed that update so that it would be compatible with their unlocking tool?? food for thought.
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That could very well be the case. Personally, what I'm thinking is going to happen, is that when the Photon does finally get official ICS support, its going to be with a new bootloader that is unlockable via their new unlocking tool. Just my two cents tho
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Jleeblanch said:
That could very well be the case. Personally, what I'm thinking is going to happen, is that when the Photon does finally get official ICS support, its going to be with a new bootloader that is unlockable via their new unlocking tool. Just my two cents tho
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I sure hope I can unlock this thing. The only reason I unlocked it in the first place was because I had a hardware issue where it wouldn't wake up from deep sleep. I was hoping to find a fix which I did but it hurt battery life so when figured out was under warranty sent in they gave me new one yay. nonunlockablee boo. Kind of got used to the freedom of having it unlocked
How should i do on 2.3.5 to have unlocked bootloader ? i try to flash pudding and have a command " Failed. Failed .. " on RSD , yes its ok and i try to type " moto-fastboot oem unlock" on CMD and i get error message " infooem unlock is not implemented " on cmd . i didnt get unlock code is it possible unlock bootloader on Photon 2.3.5 ? or should i flash 235pudding.sbf ( USCell ) ?
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How should i do on 2.3.5 to have unlocked bootloader ? i try to flash pudding and have a command " Failed. Failed .. " on RSD , yes its ok and i try to type " moto-fastboot oem unlock" on CMD and i get error message " infooem unlock is not implemented " on cmd . i didnt get unlock code is it possible unlock bootloader on Photon 2.3.5 ? or should i flash 235pudding.sbf ( USCell ) ?
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You cannot unlock the bootloader on 2.3.5. 254_13 or 254_12.
mof9336 said:
You cannot unlock the bootloader on 2.3.5. 254_13 or 254_12.
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can i flash to 2.3.4 stock rom for get unlocked bootloader ?
oktavianno said:
can i flash to 2.3.4 stock rom for get unlocked bootloader ?
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No you can't go backwards.
oh my god
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You cannot unlock the bootloader on 2.3.5. 254_13 or 254_12.
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Would that work on 2.3.5 version 45.1.190.MB853.UsC.EN.US ?
yep, I'm on the same boat, just got a Photon, thought it was just like any other GSM unlock so I ordered a code. Got cheated on $26 and couldnt find a way to enter a code... Rooted, but wasnt able to use the pudding RSD unlock since of the 2.3.5 version. Still have hope we'll be able to unlock bootloader on this device later on.
RAYOCOM said:
yep, I'm on the same boat, just got a Photon, thought it was just like any other GSM unlock so I ordered a code. Got cheated on $26 and couldnt find a way to enter a code... Rooted, but wasnt able to use the pudding RSD unlock since of the 2.3.5 version. Still have hope we'll be able to unlock bootloader on this device later on.
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Turn your ;phone into gsm mode in call settings set a screen lock and go turn your screen off wait 15 secs and then instead of entering screen lock go to emergency dial and enter #073887* and then call it it will ask for unlock code and where did you buy your code and is your photon for usa sprint because i need to unlock mine too thanks
Is there a way to unlock bootloader on 2.3.5 (upgraded from 2.3.4).
Please help..
Search is your friend people
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Achilles1987 said:
Is there a way to unlock bootloader on 2.3.5 (upgraded from 2.3.4).
Please help..
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nope. not yet at least. there are rumors that it is in the works of POSSIBLY being unlocked eventually. but as of right now, there is absolutely no way to unlock a 2.3.5 phone after accepting the OTA update that was pushed to our phones.
That blows. I just was handed this phone by my boss. I am currently on an older EVO but I'm running JB so this would be a major downgrade imho.
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Is there a way to unlock bootloader on 2.3.5 (upgraded from 2.3.4).
Please help..
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in other words..
NO WAY
where did you got a unlocked code to motorola photn 4g
where did you got a unlocked code to motorola photn 4g?
please can you send or post the link?
What.
Unlocking 2.3.5
Just kinda curious here, is there any efforts to crack the bootloader?
At these point I no longer have faith whatsoever at Motorola, but I still trust the dev here in XDA. If there's any word that there's some dev working on to unlock the bootloader on this phone, I'll be most likely keep my photon. Otherwise i might've start to look for another
galeshka said:
Just kinda curious here, is there any efforts to crack the bootloader?
At these point I no longer have faith whatsoever at Motorola, but I still trust the dev here in XDA. If there's any word that there's some dev working on to unlock the bootloader on this phone, I'll be most likely keep my photon. Otherwise i might've start to look for another
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I feel pretty confident in stating that we will never see an unlocked bootloader for 2.3.5 ota. Ever since moto and google abandoned us people have been leaving in masses. Had we gotten ICS and seen our JB roms enter complete stages of stability I believe the Photons popularity would have skyrocketed, bringing more interested devs to the table. But as it stands, our little beast of a phone is dying. The photon was released in July of 2011. By August of 2013, there will be next to no one left.
Well that's kinda s*ck. Been playing around with Joker ICS on my previous mopho, and it's really great actually. Motolola should've at least allow us to unlock the bootloader if they won't provide ICS/JB. Till then, I guess no more motolola for me. Kinda s*ck too, cos their build quality actually better than most other android manufacturer. Oh well...
Acvice said:
I feel pretty confident in stating that we will never see an unlocked bootloader for 2.3.5 ota. Ever since moto and google abandoned us people have been leaving in masses. Had we gotten ICS and seen our JB roms enter complete stages of stability I believe the Photons popularity would have skyrocketed, bringing more interested devs to the table. But as it stands, our little beast of a phone is dying. The photon was released in July of 2011. By August of 2013, there will be next to no one left.
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Has anyone tried skipping the middle man and emailing google about this? Because google may be able to help some xda devs.
Yeah I am stuck on the photon 4g (wife will kill me to go to craigslist for another phone lol ). I will move to nexus phones from now on, or maybe the new blackberries is rim pulls it out and it takes off, but this why i never was an android fan, the fragmentation is so messed up. The phone is great, just moto/google screwed us.