Whats the best way for me to update to the latest OTA ?
I used the one click root method here... I usehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
I know I will lose root access, but will i lose data too ?
Dont take the OTA!!!
You are lucky enough to have a device that is able to get S-OFF. Do this while you still can. If you take any OTA you lose this ability.
**NEVER** take an OTA. I can't stress that enough. Thats rule #1 of rooting
So if I want some of the new improvements / features....what do I do ?
If I were you i would run lazypanda to get S-OFF and TWRP on your device. Then do a nandroid, backup your stuff with titanium backup, and then download and flash the new ROMs & radios
Rxpert said:
If I were you i would run lazypanda to get S-OFF and TWRP on your device. Then do a nandroid, backup your stuff with titanium backup, and then download and flash the new ROMs & radios
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If you're s-off, you can flash whatever you want...including all the beneficial things from the OTAs (radio, kernel, ROM) without the detriment (hboot). The latest firmware and stock rooted ROM have already been posted, so you can flash them just as soon as you get s-off.
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I did S-OFF and TWRP.... so I would flash something like this ?
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...Stock-Rooted-Based-on-Latest-OTA-(Odexed-Only
If I go from sense to sense would that wipe my apps and data ?
Wildclip said:
I did S-OFF and TWRP.... so I would flash something like this ?
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...Stock-Rooted-Based-on-Latest-OTA-(Odexed-Only
If I go from sense to sense would that wipe my apps and data ?
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Not as long as you don't wipe data in twrp. Depending on what ROM you flash you may run into some issues a clean wipe of everything is recommended to ensure that all the Roms tweaks and improvements are incorporated into the system correctly.
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Hello all, I've been a long time lurker around here, and I first want to thank all the devs for all their hard work in making this such a great device. In anticipation of a fully working ICS build in the near future, is there anything I need to do before flashing an ICS ROM? I'm currently running CM7 with HBOOT 0.57 with S-On. Do I need to get S-off in order to flash ICS, or can I just flash it as I would any new Gingerbread ROM? Also, what other, if any, benefit is there to obtaining S-off?
you are using CM7 but with S-On? i thought before rooting the phone, we need to s-off the first?
lokodoe said:
you are using CM7 but with S-On? i thought before rooting the phone, we need to s-off the first?
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Rooting does not require to remove security (s-off).
S-off allows you to flash recoveries, hboots, radios via fastboot, which I think is classed as being safer than via recovery.
It also allows you write access to system while android is booted.
lokodoe said:
you are using CM7 but with S-On? i thought before rooting the phone, we need to s-off the first?
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I originally had the old version of Froyo (or was it Eclair?) that came with the phone. This was before an update that made S-on prevent the installation of CWM. Back then, I was able to use the Unrevoked method to root and install clockwork recovery. I can't remember all the details, but needless to say, S-on with HBOOT 0.57 back then did not prevent root, CWM, or the flashing of ROMs, and possibly kernels. I've flashed new CM7 ROMs up to one that was stable and after the gps was fixed, so everything works fine. I believe I'm running CM nightly 184.
This is why I'm wondering if the installation process if different for CM9 than for CM7. I don't know if S-On will interfere with the new version of android.
Edit: Here is the thread for unrevoked that I followed way back when. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788737
DanGeorges said:
Rooting does not require to remove security (s-off).
S-off allows you to flash recoveries, hboots, radios via fastboot, which I think is classed as being safer than via recovery.
It also allows you write access to system while android is booted.
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Sorry for my noobishness, but does this mean I can still flash an ICS ROM through my usual way in recovery? I remember reading somewhere that the flashing process for ICS is slightly different than Gingerbread ROMs. Also, I don't really care about being able to write to the system directory unless that has some advantage that I am unaware of.
Goodbye_Alltel said:
Sorry for my noobishness, but does this mean I can still flash an ICS ROM through my usual way in recovery? I remember reading somewhere that the flashing process for ICS is slightly different than Gingerbread ROMs. Also, I don't really care about being able to write to the system directory unless that has some advantage that I am unaware of.
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Yes - you should be able to flash ICS without s-off.
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Yes - you should be able to flash ICS without s-off.
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Alright. Thanks for clearing that up. I'll of course be sure to make a full backup and wipe everything before flashing ICS (I'm holding out until gps and camera are fixed because I use both quite freqently).
If I accept the ota update from HTC will it mess up my phone or make ne lose root?
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Yes you will lose root and Voodoo Rootkeeper does NOT work. I would wait until new exploits are found to get around this OTA, to get root back.
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rcbarr said:
Yes you will lose root and Voodoo Rootkeeper does NOT work. I would wait until new exploits are found to get around this OTA, to get root back.
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I am thinking of doing: the HTC Dev Unlock, install twrp recovery and then flash SuperSU to gain root back.
In this state will I be able to accept future OTA updates or will I have to flash back the stock recovery to do that?
sschlosnagle said:
I am thinking of doing: the HTC Dev Unlock, install twrp recovery and then flash SuperSU to gain root back.
In this state will I be able to accept future OTA updates or will I have to flash back the stock recovery to do that?
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You will need to flash a stock recovery. I would first recommend s-off before you do anything. Then you can use this method for any future updates.
bpdamas said:
You will need to flash a stock recovery. I would first recommend s-off before you do anything. Then you can use this method for any future updates.
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I already have installed the OTA. My phone, previous to the OTA, was just rooted, no unlock & stock recovery.
I have an S-Off OG EVO as well as a S-Off EVO 3D.
My EVO lte I would like to keep as stock as possible, but with root. When it is now longer my daily driver, I will be more likely to hack on it. But as my primary phone I want it as easy as possible to stay current with the radios and ROM.
Does twrp have an option restore the stock recovery? Or do I need to download that and flash it via something other than twrp?
sschlosnagle said:
I am thinking of doing: the HTC Dev Unlock, install twrp recovery and then flash SuperSU to gain root back.
In this state will I be able to accept future OTA updates or will I have to flash back the stock recovery to do that?
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Here's what I just did about 15 minutes ago. Was easy as pie. Rooted my stock rom, installed Titanium Backup and backed up what I needed, lazypanda's s-off, flashed TWRP recovery, nandroid back up stock rom, flash to MeanMike's 1.4 rom (built on the new OTA). Maintained root, s-off without HTC knowing squat, got the new OTA with the dev's built in additions, now I'm golden.
Or if in steps you want:
1.) Root: How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux]
2.) Backup apps and data you want to keep using Titanium
3.) S-Off: [S-OFF] LazyPanda S-OFF
4.) Recovery: [6/1/12] TWRP 2.1.8 - TeamWinRecoveryProject - now with usb!
5.) Nandroid backup inside TWRP
6.) New Rom: [ROM] Jul-12 MeanROM ICS v1.4 | 1.22.651.3 | 1.5-1.9 Ghz | Mods | Batt saver
6.5) Flash New Firmware: Read down on Mean's thread about flashing firmware.
Profit.
mmmdieselfumes said:
Here's what I just did about 15 minutes ago. Was easy as pie. Rooted my stock rom, installed Titanium Backup and backed up what I needed, lazypanda's s-off, flashed TWRP recovery, nandroid back up stock rom, flash to MeanMike's 1.4 rom (built on the new OTA). Maintained root, s-off without HTC knowing squat, got the new OTA with the dev's built in additions, now I'm golden.
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Thanks for the reply, but I have already taken the OTA, so going full S-Off is no longer an option, nor is it my objective at this time.
My objective is to have a Stock Phone able to receive a future OTA update, and have root access.
I am pretty clear on doing the HTC Dev Unlock, installing twrp recovery, & flashing SU from twrp. I'm just a little fuzzy on how to restore stock recovery.
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Oh wait!
Does doing the HTC Dev Unlock wipe the phone? I really don't want to have to rebuild my apps and configs without being able to Titanium Backup first!
Is there anyone even working on a software root for the current OTA? I don't mind waiting for a software root. But if one is not coming, then I need to schedule a few hours to go the Dev Unlock route. Redoing my app setup and config will take the most time. Even with the titanium backups from when I got the phone it will still takes hours to get everything back to where I want it to be.
if you into rooting and custom roms and things like that NEVER accept an OTA from sprint. ALWAYS wait for it to be incorporated into a custom ROM. just go to the MEANROM or the stock liquid smooth ROM and get one of them. just a piece of advise.
jsonger121 said:
if you into rooting and custom roms and things like that NEVER accept an OTA from sprint. ALWAYS wait for it to be incorporated into a custom ROM. just go to the MEANROM or the stock liquid smooth ROM and get one of them. just a piece of advise.
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It's just so unfortunate that having root access to your OS is something that the carriers want to so thoroughly discourage.
Like I have said, since my EVO lte is my daily driver, it must work well everyday, I prefer to keep everything stock. But I also have come to use root access often.
I love to hack on my older phones, when I have the time. But I don't always have the time available to research and implement hacks and mods, so I try to keep away from them on my main phone.
i respect ur decision but my evo is my daily driver and i have unlocked the bootloader, rooted and have s-off and have mean rom installed and its flawless man. i never have any issues like some ppl talk about. and whenever the new viper rom comes out it will be the same way im sure.
I am trying to do the same thing jsonger121.
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sschlosnagle said:
Like I have said, since my EVO lte is my daily driver, it must work well everyday, I prefer to keep everything stock. But I also have come to use root access often.
I love to hack on my older phones, when I have the time. But I don't always have the time available to research and implement hacks and mods, so I try to keep away from them on my main phone.
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I use mine as a daily driver, and for my job, it's a business critical aspect. It's easy to find a rom that's stable (Mean Rom), and doesn't "hack" things so much as enhance the capabilities that you already have. That's why I prefer to be completely unlocked, so I can do what I need to do, but still have the flexibility to accomplish the things I'd like to do. I've always thought that if you just want something "so simple, a caveman can do it", you go with something vanilla and boring like apple's products.
I have s-on, is there a guide to get s-off?
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I tried looking around, but a lot of the posts were from mid/late 2011 about this.
Currently my EVO 3D is still on stock Gingerbread.
I tried to lookup a stock ICS rom, but almost all of them are custom roms based on the stock rom. Basically, ATM all I want to do is upgrade to a rooted version of the sprint ICS rom, not install a completely custom rom. Also, I have heard that with the official rom you can upgrade without losing any information. Is it possible to do that with ANY of the custom roms or would they all require me to backup my data because it will have to reformat my phone? ATM I am not looking for a custom rom and really, just want to be able to upgrade to the stock ICS while still having root purely so I can delete all those annoying preinstalled apps.
Will backing up data from a gingerbread rom and then restoring it to a ICS rom cause any problems?
And I have no idea how to go about doing it, I know I should at first use the temp root just to backup my information.... but I am lost on the whole S-OFF and flashing from past that point thing.
Cyber Akuma said:
I tried looking around, but a lot of the posts were from mid/late 2011 about this.
Currently my EVO 3D is still on stock Gingerbread.
I tried to lookup a stock ICS rom, but almost all of them are custom roms based on the stock rom. Basically, ATM all I want to do is upgrade to a rooted version of the sprint ICS rom, not install a completely custom rom. Also, I have heard that with the official rom you can upgrade without losing any information. Is it possible to do that with ANY of the custom roms or would they all require me to backup my data because it will have to reformat my phone? ATM I am not looking for a custom rom and really, just want to be able to upgrade to the stock ICS while still having root purely so I can delete all those annoying preinstalled apps.
Will backing up data from a gingerbread rom and then restoring it to a ICS rom cause any problems?
And I have no idea how to go about doing it, I know I should at first use the temp root just to backup my information.... but I am lost on the whole S-OFF and flashing from past that point thing.
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Virus has a thread with the stock rooted rom in the development form. As for restoring apps, you shouldn't have a problem, if you do clear caches and reboot
Sent from my EVO 3DMA with a little "Common Sense"
Thanks for the help
I'm guessing thats this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808150
So, he mentioned I won't loose root if I am dev unlocked? What about if I use a 3rd party unlock method? I remember reading that HTC's unlock method still leaves some aspects unlocked while the 3rd party methods can fully unlock the device.
And can anyone help me with the other questions I asked?
Thanks
Cyber Akuma said:
Thanks for the help
I'm guessing thats this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808150
So, he mentioned I won't loose root if I am dev unlocked? What about if I use a 3rd party unlock method? I remember reading that HTC's unlock method still leaves some aspects unlocked while the 3rd party methods can fully unlock the device.
And can anyone help me with the other questions I asked?
Thanks
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The HTC method will leave you with unlocked, s-on. That is what some folks seem to to refer to as the partially still locked issue.
I would just use the HTC method, and then use the wire trick method to get s-off. Then you are unlocked and have control of what ever you want to do.
When it comes to the roms, you need to do a little research and make sure you have compatible components. If you upgrade to the latest H-boot, then certain roms will no longer run. Personally I am running the cool rom as of last night, but have been on mean rom for the last couple of weeks. I have been using the "other kernel" with hboot 1.58 and things have been pretty good.
The meanrom 2.6 is a good choice for you in my opinion as it will give you root access with as close to stock as you can get. It has the kernel and new hboot instructions in it also so I would consider it a good fit for what you are looking for. I do not believe you can overclock the kernel it comes with, but you did not request that.
As to backing up your data. Everyone will have their preferred program or method. I have purchased the rom tool box pro edition from market, I use it to back up apps and data. Regardless of what you use, be careful when restoring the backups. I restore data like wifi, messages, contacts. I do not restore the system data, especially if I am changing between roms as it is much easier to type in a little data than to figure out why the thing is unstable.
It just takes a bit of research, but all the information you need is available.
Have a good weekend.
sonza said:
The HTC method will leave you with unlocked, s-on. That is what some folks seem to to refer to as the partially still locked issue.
I would just use the HTC method, and then use the wire trick method to get s-off. Then you are unlocked and have control of what ever you want to do.
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But dosen't the HTC method force me to reformat my memory, thus requiring me to do the temporary root so I can run titanium backup before doing it?
On a related note, I am not sure just how I would restore my apps actually. I mean, the first thing my phone would ask me to do is to sign into my Gmail account, and when I do that, it will automatically attempt to re-download all of my apps wouldn't it? (And fail spectacularly since I don't have enough space, nearly all of my apps are on my SD card and my internal memory is still full, lousy preinstalled bloatware that you cannot remove...)
sonza said:
When it comes to the roms, you need to do a little research and make sure you have compatible components. If you upgrade to the latest H-boot, then certain roms will no longer run. Personally I am running the cool rom as of last night, but have been on mean rom for the last couple of weeks. I have been using the "other kernel" with hboot 1.58 and things have been pretty good.
It just takes a bit of research, but all the information you need is available.
Have a good weekend.
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Like I said, I just want a rooted stock rom for now, not a custom rom.
Cyber Akuma (is that a reference to "D.Gray.Man?)
Shameless self promoting here but, for some background info have a look at:
[Guide]My Hboot 1.5x HTC Unlock/recovery/rom/kernel flashing notes
Evo3d(CDMA)HBoot/S-off Differences & Rooting Background Info
I've been using MeanRom ICS since it came out. Very solid, very similar to stock, smooth, reliable, fast, but all the extras. S-Off is strongly recommended b/c HTC Unlocked (S-on) users are hit or miss on being able to install ICS Roms. If you are still on Hboot 1.50 you can get s-off by downgrading Hboot to 1.40 or the Jbear wire Trick. If you take the official ICS update Jbear is your only option at the moment.
You may be able to use EsFileExplorer to back up your user apps w/o rooting, but an option to consider is to HTC Unlock, install a recovery, flash SuperUser and have a full rooted stock (S-On) phone that you can backup with Ti Backup or the custom recovery (don't think you will lose anything in the process).
With HTC Unlock, you wont be able to update to ICS while rooted, you'd have to relock and flash the full RUU (erasing the phone) and unlock/root again.
Upgrading to ICS, you should be able to restore your user apps, but system settings/google accounts (especially GB backups) etc will cause issues so you will most likely need to just bite the bullet and plan on re-entering things the first time through. FYI, Virus's update thread only works for S-off users.
Wait, if I do S-OFF and then use an official rom, would I be stuck with S-ON again?
Cyber Akuma said:
Wait, if I do S-OFF and then use an official rom, would I be stuck with S-ON again?
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Not if it's a rooted version of the rom found in the Dev section.
Cyber Akuma said:
Wait, if I do S-OFF and then use an official rom, would I be stuck with S-ON again?
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Once s-Off, always s-Off. (unless u send the command via fastboot)
S-Off trumps unlocked bootloader (htc unlocked)
Running a full stock Ruu will not reset to S-on
Sent from my "Up all night, Sleep all day" EVO3D!
But when you htc unlock yes it will format the device, so temp root, titanium backup, htc unlock, jbear, then custom recovery and finally flash stock rooted....
Good luck its all not too complicated. Just allot of steps
J.eremy said:
But when you htc unlock yes it will format the device, so temp root, titanium backup, htc unlock, jbear, then custom recovery and finally flash stock rooted....
Good luck its all not too complicated. Just allot of steps
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A word of warning about temp rooting: it caused my phone to bootloop so I personally was unable to save my data. Hopefully you'll have better luck.
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I want to install sense 6 .. and I will make backup before trying to.. but my question is if I restore my backup I can install official update again?? because I want the official sense 6 but can't wait also if I restore the backup all applications and home page shortcut will be there or I will loose them all ??
yes you can restore from backup. it will come on with everything you had on there at the time of backup.
to receive ota, wipe system, restore backup, and flash stock recovery. also lock bootloader via scotty123's method.
some people reporting ota working fine without locking bootloader. but stock recovery must be there for it to work
japodude said:
yes you can restore from backup. it will come on with everything you had on there at the time of backup.
to receive ota, wipe system, restore backup, and flash stock recovery. also lock bootloader via scotty123's method.
some people reporting ota working fine without locking bootloader. but stock recovery must be there for it to work
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from where do I get stock recovery for the international htc one max??
thetiger_jad007 said:
from where do I get stock recovery for the international htc one max??
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look in one max forum for post twrp recovery 2.7.0.0. its in there for download
pm me if you can't find i will upload. but it's real easy to find
japodude said:
look in one max forum for post twrp recovery 2.7.0.0. its in there for download
pm me if you can't find i will upload. but it's real easy to find
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thx I found one ..
Another question to install custom rom do I need to s-off my phone I can't remeber that I s-off my old phones to install custom rom :S
i didnt soff to install virtuous 2.0.2.
i soff'd before i took the 4.4 ota.
japodude said:
i didnt soff to install virtuous 2.0.2.
i soff'd before i took the 4.4 ota.
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Aha.. is there any way to unlock bootloader without htc dev and I think yes but what is the difference between them. And just to be clear to install custom rom I have to unlock bootloader then root then installing CWM and then flash the rom .. Root and CWM does not affect my data so I can backup them..
And thank you so much
unlock without htc dev only possible with soff. so no on stock phone.
not gonna explain soff and unlock, read forums. explained there
to install rom, just unlock bootloader.install recovery of your choice thats it. the rom you install will probably be rooted anyway!
japodude said:
unlock without htc dev only possible with soff. so no on stock phone.
not gonna explain soff and unlock, read forums. explained there
to install rom, just unlock bootloader.install recovery of your choice thats it. the rom you install will probably be rooted anyway!
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thx I did it and I installed new rom
Hi,
A long long time ago I rooted my thunderbolt, using the revolutionary method. Right now my android version is 2.3.4 and I would like to update it to the latest version while still remaining rooted.
Is it possible to easily do this with my current setup? I have Revolutionary CWM 4.0.1.4 on my phone.
Not sure the proper order of operations to update android versions while still maintaining root status.
Thanks!
shapoopi said:
Hi,
A long long time ago I rooted my thunderbolt, using the revolutionary method. Right now my android version is 2.3.4 and I would like to update it to the latest version while still remaining rooted.
Is it possible to easily do this with my current setup? I have Revolutionary CWM 4.0.1.4 on my phone.
Not sure the proper order of operations to update android versions while still maintaining root status.
Thanks!
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yep as long u rooted u can easily jump from 2.3.4 to other rom 2.3.5 or 4.x
just put ur new rom on sd card, enter ur recovery,wipe everything, then flash ur new rom.
ur stat rooted will stay:highfive:
shapoopi said:
Hi,
A long long time ago I rooted my thunderbolt, using the revolutionary method. Right now my android version is 2.3.4 and I would like to update it to the latest version while still remaining rooted.
Is it possible to easily do this with my current setup? I have Revolutionary CWM 4.0.1.4 on my phone.
Not sure the proper order of operations to update android versions while still maintaining root status.
Thanks!
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Revolutionary is a bootloader... And keeps you locked into s-off... Your rooted status on any rom you install will depend on the rom and your super user binary... But recovering root is as simple as flashing a superuser binary if it is lost, so long as you don't remove your revolutionary bootloader (designed to be difficult to remove, can't be overwritten easily or accidentally, no worries) I highly recommend switching to 4ext recovery, especially for 4.0.4 ROMs... But, your device, your choice.
quickdraw86 said:
Revolutionary is a bootloader... And keeps you locked into s-off... Your rooted status on any rom you install will depend on the rom and your super user binary... But recovering root is as simple as flashing a superuser binary if it is lost, so long as you don't remove your revolutionary bootloader (designed to be difficult to remove, can't be overwritten easily or accidentally, no worries) I highly recommend switching to 4ext recovery, especially for 4.0.4 ROMs... But, your device, your choice.
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Sorry, but I am still confused on some things.
Switching to 4ext recovery -- What does this mean?
Also would the most popular 4.x.x ROMs work for my thunderbolt?
And final question: Would this completely wipe all of my personal data + apps or simply just upgrade my phone's android OS?
Thanks!
shapoopi said:
Sorry, but I am still confused on some things.
Switching to 4ext recovery -- What does this mean?
Also would the most popular 4.x.x ROMs work for my thunderbolt?
And final question: Would this completely wipe all of my personal data + apps or simply just upgrade my phone's android OS?
Thanks!
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http://4ext.net
Most, yes, so long as you use an up to date recovery .IMG
In order to correctly install a new ROM, you must wipe /data, /system, cache, and dalvik cache in recovery prior to install... If you're already rooted and s-off, you can create a nandroid backup with your recovery. Search for that phrase if you don't understand what that is... Hope that helps.