Anyone know if there will be an S-OFF method for the new Hboot? The sprint reps updated a buddy of mine's EVO without asking him and alas he now has the upgraded hboot.
Is there a way to revert it back?
Thanks All
Absolutely not
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To clear up the above post: there is absolutely no way of reverting back.
However, it might be possible that someone comes out with a way to achieve S-OFF on newer hboots. Did your friend make it clear to the Sprint rep to not update the phone? If he JUST bought it he can simply get it swapped out and make sure the rep doesn't update this time. If it's in for repair it might be tougher to get the situation remedied.
If you've ever accepted an OTA, theres not an S-0FF.
Chances are we will find an exploit for h-boot 1.15, but 1.19 is probably going to be very far down the road if ever
Rxpert said:
If you've ever accepted an OTA, theres not an S-0FF.
Chances are we will find an exploit for h-boot 1.15, but 1.19 is probably going to be very far down the road if ever
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I doubt that there will be an s-off for 1.15. In fact it would make sense to abandon it and start working on the latest hboot to find an exploit.
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cruise350 said:
I doubt that there will be an s-off for 1.15. In fact it would make sense to abandon it and start working on the latest hboot to find an exploit.
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Theres a good chance that there had been some exploit in 1.15 for them up update it though. That vulnerability would have been patched in 1.19
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I doubt that there will be an s-off for 1.15. In fact it would make sense to abandon it and start working on the latest hboot to find an exploit.
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No sir, you are very wrong, with all due respect.
There are more(most likely) exploits to get s-off in 1.15. Once one of those is found and you can get s-off, you can then update hboot, firmware, etc, and remain s-off.
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i baught an evo 3d of somebody the other day and its s-off but the hboot is 1.40.100!!?? has anyone heard of this?? how did it get hboot 1.40.100 and is there any way to get it to 1.40.00???
1.40.100!!!???
damm really??? nobody has heard or knos anything about that hboot???
That's fine and normal! 1.30 and 1.40 HBOOTs weren't patched by an OTA (Over-The-Air) update. Consider yourself lucky. If you've already got S-OFF, then do all the flashing your heart desires (with care of course). Just don't take any OTA updates if you decide to keep the stock ROM. Read up on the pinned threads in the developer (CDMA) section for more info on flashing ROMs.
evod3 said:
i baught an evo 3d of somebody the other day and its s-off but the hboot is 1.40.100!!?? has anyone heard of this?? how did it get hboot 1.40.100 and is there any way to get it to 1.40.00???
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You mean, "when I bought."*
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I have a very noob question that I was unable to find an answer to while searching the forums.
It seems that (understandably) the OneX development is much further along than the EVO LTE. My guess is that S-OFF will (hopefully) be achieved soon for that phone. My question is: how well will achieving S-OFF on the OneX translate to the EVO LTE considering the phones are, to my understanding, so much alike.
Will S-OFF on the OneX mean S-OFF for the EVO LTE shortly after?
Thank you ahead of time for answering my noob question.
JT114881 said:
I have a very noob question that I was unable to find an answer to while searching the forums.
It seems that (understandably) the OneX development is much further along than the EVO LTE. My guess is that S-OFF will (hopefully) be achieved soon for that phone. My question is: how well will achieving S-OFF on the OneX translate to the EVO LTE considering the phones are, to my understanding, so much alike.
Will S-OFF on the OneX mean S-OFF for the EVO LTE shortly after?
Thank you ahead of time for answering my noob question.
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the one x devs also had the phone way before us soooo yeah it just depends
Evo 4g lte s-off
like any other htc phone... it will take some time... maybe a month or two before we get s-off!
Teamscrooge said:
like any other htc phone... it will take some time... maybe a month or two before we get s-off!
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maybe even a year. That't how long it took for evo 3d hboot 1.5
I think the HTC one x international ver has s-off but if the att one x gets s-off I think we will be right behind it assuming the flaw is in the chipset or something.
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IM debating whether to use the one step method regaw_leinad created for us which uses HTCdev.com or wait for S-off... I'm curious to know whether or not it changes the HBOOT to begin with?
JT114881 said:
I have a very noob question that I was unable to find an answer to while searching the forums.
It seems that (understandably) the OneX development is much further along than the EVO LTE. My guess is that S-OFF will (hopefully) be achieved soon for that phone. My question is: how well will achieving S-OFF on the OneX translate to the EVO LTE considering the phones are, to my understanding, so much alike.
Will S-OFF on the OneX mean S-OFF for the EVO LTE shortly after?
Thank you ahead of time for answering my noob question.
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different SoC's so not likely...if ATT OneX gets it then possible it translates over to us though...
Powerbird101 said:
IM debating whether to use the one step method regaw_leinad created for us which uses HTCdev.com or wait for S-off... I'm curious to know whether or not it changes the HBOOT to begin with?
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In the same boat. I'm dying to get rid of this bloatware and I have several apps that require superuser, but I don't want to hassle with un-rooting/re-rooting when an S-OFF method is released.
Though I must admit I'm still pretty new to all this. What does having S-OFF give us the ability to do?
firebirdude said:
In the same boat. I'm dying to get rid of this bloatware and I have several apps that require superuser, but I don't want to hassle with un-rooting/re-rooting when an S-OFF method is released.
Though I must admit I'm still pretty new to all this. What does having S-OFF give us the ability to do?
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Actually on thos phone s-on and s-off do the same things
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Can't recall the specific thread, but do some searching. People are able to do everything without s-off. We can flash ROMs, recoverys, even kernels. There's no real reason to get s-off because of this
jkt97401 said:
Can't recall the specific thread, but do some searching. People are able to do everything without s-off. We can flash ROMs, recoverys, even kernels. There's no real reason to get s-off because of this
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This is the thread you were thinking of. It explains why we don't really need x-off with this phone.
The only reason for S-off is if you don't want to void warranty then? It also looks like there will be a big hassle to get updates pushed to the device. I hope there is a leak of the Eng bootloader.
djkleric said:
The only reason for S-off is if you don't want to void warranty then? It also looks like there will be a big hassle to get updates pushed to the device. I hope there is a leak of the Eng bootloader.
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Even s off voids your warranty just no way to prove it per say and it isn't a hassle anymore as radios can be changed now...n same w splash screen's
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Right now everything can be done with S-ON EXCEPT flashing radios. Unlike older phones this one also lets you flash kernels with S-ON. I currently have just rooted the phone over stock so when a method is available I will be able to revert back to stock untampered bootloader in 15 minutes with an RUU wipe then completely S-OFF the phone.
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Right now everything can be done with S-ON EXCEPT flashing radios. Unlike older phones this one also lets you flash kernels with S-ON. I currently have just rooted the phone over stock so when a method is available I will be able to revert back to stock untampered bootloader in 15 minutes with an RUU wipe then completely S-OFF the phone.
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You CAN flash radios with s-on. See the following thread, post 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704612
Powerbird101 said:
Right now everything can be done with S-ON EXCEPT flashing radios. Unlike older phones this one also lets you flash kernels with S-ON. I currently have just rooted the phone over stock so when a method is available I will be able to revert back to stock untampered bootloader in 15 minutes with an RUU wipe then completely S-OFF the phone.
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Even if you run the ruu, the bootloader still will have the watermark "relocked" and the splash still says that other crap.
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Why are people waiting for s_off. Seems to me unlocked bootloader with s_on is perfect for the vast majority of root users. I know the first thing I did when I got the phone is head on over to HTC Dev. I really couldn't care less if s_off is never achieved.
I guess keep waiting but waiting for what I don't know
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corcgaigh said:
Why are people waiting for s_off. Seems to me unlocked bootloader with s_on is perfect for the vast majority of root users. I know the first thing I did when I got the phone is head on over to HTC Dev. I really couldn't care less if s_off is never achieved.
I guess keep waiting but waiting for what I don't know
SENT FROM MY EVO LTE USING XDA
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My sentiments exactly! You wanna wait for S-off go ahead you could be waiting for over a year like I did with my 3D and by then the new EVO will be released.
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Even if you run the ruu, the bootloader still will have the watermark "relocked" and the splash still says that other crap.
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If you use HTC Dev, yes you are right but he's talking about just rooting without unlocking the bootloader in which case the RUU will remove the "tampered" message.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Im already rooted, unlocked and running CM10. Title says the rest......discuss.
You have every reason not to take the OTA update.
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You have every reason not to take the OTA update.
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Rxpert, can you please send me in the directions to acheive S-Off since i to have 1.15 hboot? I've looked all around no luck yet. Is it posssible to acheive S-off because of the 1.15hboot since LazyPanda isn't an option?:good:
There is no s-off for hboot 1.15 yet.
The reason you should not take the OTA is because there is a new hboot, which means it will probably be a very long time before you can get s-off on 1.19.
If you can hold out awhile longer, s-off should be possible on 1.15, then you can do whatever you want, update radio, etc.
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Cloaker said:
There is no s-off for hboot 1.15 yet.
The reason you should not take the OTA is because there is a new hboot, which means it will probably be a very long time before you can get s-off on 1.19.
If you can hold out awhile longer, s-off should be possible on 1.15, then you can do whatever you want, update radio, etc.
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Cloaker, do you have any reference to back up that hboot 1.15 s-off should be possible? I can't find anyone that is working on it. I've read others saying LazyPanda are working on it, but can't find that either. Just that s-off isn't possible on hboot 1.15 as well.
chewboxa said:
Cloaker, do you have any reference to back up that hboot 1.15 s-off should be possible? I can't find anyone that is working on it. I've read others saying LazyPanda are working on it, but can't find that either. Just that s-off isn't possible on hboot 1.15 as well.
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I know what you know, but if you look at the evo 3d and most phones, the pattern is that the first hboot is cracked quickly, the next one soon after, and the third takes a while(at least a year). There are still plenty of devs that haven't upgraded to the LTE yet.
Also, since htc has updated hboot again, has led many to believe on this forum that HTC found an exploit in 1.15 and patched it. With the phone this new, I bet s-off will be achieved with 1.15 relatively soon. But again, no sources, just my possibly flawed logic.
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If anyone knew 100% that it would be possible to crack it would already be cracked.
We are making assumptions bbased on the fact that HTC released hboot 1.19. They don't usually do that unless it patches vulnerabilities used to gain S-OFF
Does anyone know WHY HTC doesn't want us to have s-off? Even if we void the warranty doing it through their method. I would be completely satisfied if HTC dev let me have s-off.
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Does anyone know WHY HTC doesn't want us to have s-off? Even if we void the warranty doing it through their method. I would be completely satisfied if HTC dev let me have s-off.
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Because S-OFF gives you the ability to really screw things up. They are protecting you from yourself
I understand that logic, but at the same time I don't. If I want to mess up my phone, let me. If they don't want to cover it under warranty, I understand. But let me mess my phone up. Lol
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The problem is its hard to prove your phone is rooted once its really bricked. So they end up replacing it under warranty anyways.
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durandetto said:
The problem is its hard to prove your phone is rooted once its really bricked. So they end up replacing it under warranty anyways.
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What if they let us get s-off by providing our serial numbers? It seems like it would benefit them to let us get s-off via them. Then they could blacklist our serial numbers, if we do it, there isn't much they can do because as you mentioned, it's hard to tell once it's bricked.
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Cloaker said:
I understand that logic, but at the same time I don't. If I want to mess up my phone, let me. If they don't want to cover it under warranty, I understand. But let me mess my phone up. Lol
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I'm not saying I agree with it. :silly:
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I'm not saying I agree with it. :silly:
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Lol. Good.
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I'm 1.12 s-off. If I try to upgrade to 1.15 or above will I lose my s-off? Is there any reason or advantage to upgrade my hboot? I can update my boot, radios, roms etc with 1.12 so I can't understand why I would update. Explain please!
chadwick84 said:
I'm 1.12 s-off. If I try to upgrade to 1.15 or above will I lose my s-off? Is there any reason or advantage to upgrade my hboot? I can update my boot, radios, roms etc with 1.12 so I can't understand why I would update. Explain please!
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I can't think of any reason why you would, I think some roms might need it, but regardless, once you're s-off, it's permanent unless you actually try to go s-on through some dev's method.
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chadwick84 said:
I'm 1.12 s-off. If I try to upgrade to 1.15 or above will I lose my s-off? Is there any reason or advantage to upgrade my hboot? I can update my boot, radios, roms etc with 1.12 so I can't understand why I would update. Explain please!
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Theres never a reason to update your h-boot.
You dont want the newer ones
Cloaker said:
Does anyone know WHY HTC doesn't want us to have s-off? Even if we void the warranty doing it through their method. I would be completely satisfied if HTC dev let me have s-off.
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I wonder if one reason they close the exploits as fast as they can, and the reason their unlocker wipes the phone, is a liability issue their lawyers told them to do. So nobody can do this to somebody else's phone and access "sensitive data" or something.
pbarrett said:
I wonder if one reason they close the exploits as fast as they can, and the reason their unlocker wipes the phone, is a liability issue their lawyers told them to do. So nobody can do this to somebody else's phone and access "sensitive data" or something.
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The wipe is a pretty standard unlocking procedure. The nexus's do that as well I believe. Its a security thing
Just got my LTE yesterday and it has hboot 1.12. If you are in the Austin tx area the round rock best buy has them.
Good news. Now get S-OFF
beerbq said:
Just got my LTE yesterday and it has hboot 1.12. If you are in the Austin tx area the round rock best buy has them.
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That's.. cool?
beerbq said:
Just got my LTE yesterday and it has hboot 1.12. If you are in the Austin tx area the round rock best buy has them.
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How do I check hboot? I haven't been able to boot into bootloader. I'm all stock with latest ota update.
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manaup said:
How do I check hboot? I haven't been able to boot into bootloader. I'm all stock with latest ota update.
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You are 1.19 then. Accepting that OTA guarantees it
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You are 1.19 then. Accepting that OTA guarantees it
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Ok thanks! Now I will head on over to find a way to root this baby tonight! Oh yeah! Is it better to root with s-off? Or root and maintain s-on? I want to run custom ROMs and kernels and be able to make backups. Just like how I did back then with the og evo.
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Since you have the latest hboot there is no s-off for you. Just go to htcdev and unlock that way then flash recovery then whatever rom u want.
I am looking and reading about which way to root and get soff. Any preferences? I dont think im gonna miss my shift, well right now I do.
Lazypanda.
Curious if there is any other ways to achieve S-Off on an already rooted EVO hboot 1.12 other than DirtyRacun as I am not having any luck with that method.
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ChewyWade said:
Curious if there is any other ways to achieve S-Off on an already rooted EVO hboot 1.12 other than DirtyRacun as I am not having any luck with that method.
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lazy panda works if u have hboot 1.12 they dont support it anymore but it still works on hboot 1.12 i kno someone who used it a weeks ago.. dam i just asked if they had the file still and they dont.. ask around someone should still have the lazy panda file im sure
ChewyWade said:
Curious if there is any other ways to achieve S-Off on an already rooted EVO hboot 1.12 other than DirtyRacun as I am not having any luck with that method.
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Check your PM
I am also on hboot 1.12 and am currently S-ON rooted and HTCDEV unlocked. Looking for an S-Off method other than DirtyRacun because I have x64 Windows and would really rather not update my hboot for S-OFF or mess around with Linux.
If I could get a hold of the Lazy Panda file would it be helpful based on my situation?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
spokenwordd said:
I am also on hboot 1.12 and am currently S-ON rooted and HTCDEV unlocked. Looking for an S-Off method other than DirtyRacun because I have x64 Windows and would really rather not update my hboot for S-OFF or mess around with Linux.
If I could get a hold of the Lazy Panda file would it be helpful based on my situation?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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bigdaddy mite be the man to talk to??
spokenwordd said:
I am also on hboot 1.12 and am currently S-ON rooted and HTCDEV unlocked. Looking for an S-Off method other than DirtyRacun because I have x64 Windows and would really rather not update my hboot for S-OFF or mess around with Linux.
If I could get a hold of the Lazy Panda file would it be helpful based on my situation?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Check your PM
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ChewyWade said:
Curious if there is any other ways to achieve S-Off on an already rooted EVO hboot 1.12 other than DirtyRacun as I am not having any luck with that method.
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Yesterday I did the deed, and got S-OFF. I was running a 1.12 hboot after downgrading several months earlier. Had to RUU up to a 1.19 hboot for the Racun to do it's thing. Otherwise it was a quick, and painless operation. If you need help go the #unlimited IRC channel on freenode.net.
If you're already hboot 1.12, lazypanda is a simple executable that needs no more than administrative privileges and 5-10 minutes.
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Why not upgrade from 1.12 to 1.19 to use dirtyracun? Only reason why not to upgrade before was because there wasn't an s off method for 1.19 lol
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decayer177 said:
If you're already hboot 1.12, lazypanda is a simple executable that needs no more than administrative privileges and 5-10 minutes.
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Problem now is, Lazy Panda is no longer supported by Team Unlimited. If you get into a tight spot and need help, you're potentially going to be screwed. Having said that, myself and many others have successfully used it since support for it ceased. Risk versus reward, I suppose.
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Problem now is, Lazy Panda is no longer supported by Team Unlimited. If you get into a tight spot and need help, you're potentially going to be screwed. Having said that, myself and many others have successfully used it since support for it ceased. Risk versus reward, I suppose.
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I am also in need to lazy panda. Can someone send it to me or point me in the right direction? Thanks
FinZ28 said:
Problem now is, Lazy Panda is no longer supported by Team Unlimited. If you get into a tight spot and need help, you're potentially going to be screwed. Having said that, myself and many others have successfully used it since support for it ceased. Risk versus reward, I suppose.
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Juopunutbear is no longer supported on the 3D, but I was able to use it successfully just a couple weeks ago on a used phone I got from eBay for my wife. As long as you follow the directions as closely as possible, you shouldn't run into any issues.
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Linux kicking my ass. Cat seem to in on live CD trying to soffffffff a 209.after the ota
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So is there now way to get soff on a new device these days? WTF?
Just had to get my phone replaced and I can't seem to find clear direction on how to get S-Off anymore. Can't believe it.
I don't even know how to function with a S-On phone. Seriously.
tgrgrd00 said:
So is there now way to get soff on a new device these days? WTF?
Just had to get my phone replaced and I can't seem to find clear direction on how to get S-Off anymore. Can't believe it.
I don't even know how to function with a S-On phone. Seriously.
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You can use FacePalm found in original development if you are not on the latest OTA 3.16.651.3
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I JUST used Lazy Panda after being rooted on the newest software update and it wasn't a problem. Don't hesitate to use it.
mstrblueskys said:
I JUST used Lazy Panda after being rooted on the newest software update and it wasn't a problem. Don't hesitate to use it.
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I'm calling BS on this ^^^^^
LazyPanda is no longer supported and unless you have the files you cannot find them anywhere.
LazyPanda ONLY works for hboot 1.12 it will not work on "the newest software update"
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You can use FacePalm found in original development if you are not on the latest OTA 3.16.651.3
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Well it cane with 3.16.651.3 so I am out of luck there.
So it looks like I am stuck like chuck for now. :sigh:
I actually have the lazy panda files but don't have the instructions for my hboot.
Gotta say reading the lazy panda page reads like a 12 year old girl got soff on our device.
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tgrgrd00 said:
Well it cane with 3.16.651.3 so I am out of luck there.
So it looks like I am stuck like chuck for now. :sigh:
I actually have the lazy panda files but don't have the instructions for my hboot.
Gotta say reading the lazy panda page reads like a 12 year old girl got soff on our device.
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DirtyRacun will work on 3.16 but you have to use Linux (windows is no longer supported)
I did BabyRacun so I could install 3.15 and finished with FacePalm. Had not one issue other than user error. Lol. Worked great. Did that today on my replacement of which Sprint decided to update fully.
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