Entropy512 has provided assurance that Triangle Away should be the tool of choice for reseting the flash counter on SGH-I777 devices. Please see his post later in this thread.
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Triangle Away is a potentially good tool for resetting the flash counter.
However, there is a not insignificant risk in using it since it makes modifications within the actual bootloader. Further, while it does work on our phone, the SGH-I777 is not listed under supported devices in the developer Chainfire's original Triangle Away thread.
Chainfire has the following to say in the OP of that thread:
Chainfire said:
THIS IS A DANGEROUS OPERATION AND COULD POTENTIALLY BRICK YOUR DEVICE. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK. A USB JIG IS PREFERRED IF YOU HAVE A WORKING ONE.
( and by brick I mean brick - only a board replacement or a JTAG unit will be able to save you, don't mess with boot(loader) stuff unless you really mean it! )
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So, please think a little bit before blithely recommending Triangle Away. And please do not intimate that since Triangle Away is available, it should be the first choice. Actually, the first choice for resetting the flash counter and removing the warning boot screen on our phones is a USB jig.
Wow. Thanks for this man I seriously had no idea the risk was that great. I saw the warning before but just assumed it was like most that developers post saying that its not their fault if this bricks your phone or poisons your dog and all that. I'll definitely be changing what I recommend to users regarding this. Cheers!
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$2 jig from Ebay is definitely the better way to go. Got mine in the closet somewhere if I ever needed it.
I definitely used triangle away on my phone with no problems, and have recommended it before. After reading the op's post, I feel pretty dang lucky I still have a working i777 and hope my recommendation did not hurt anybody else's device. Thanks for posting this and for the warning...
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Actually, the first choice for resetting the flash counter and removing the warning boot screen on our phones is a USB jig.
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According to this thread, the jig method of resetting the counter was disabled by AT&T on later GB bootloaders and ICS. Unless JB allows for it, the only way to remove the triangle on current roms is to either use Triangle Away or to never increment it in the first place, as per that thread.
As far as that warning goes, any software that interacts with the phone on that low of a level carries the same warning. Every rom, kernel, modem, flashable zip, kernel tweaker, and OC/UV has it. Nothing new here.
Yeah creepy i think is saying this cause some people have posted threads that they've used this app and bricked their devices. I've used it in the past just fine, but haven't in a long while .
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...As far as that warning goes, any software that interacts with the phone on that low of a level carries the same warning. Every rom, kernel, modem, flashable zip, kernel tweaker, and OC/UV has it. Nothing new here.
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I can't agree with this statement. Yes, any firmware that interacts with the phone on a low level, i.e. bootloaders, param.lfs, etc. should include a warning because there is a real risk of hard bricking the phone which can only be recovered with jtag or motherboard replacement. But there is verly little risk of a true hard brick when flashing a kernel, a system partition, or a modem. Since the beginning, there have been no firmware packages in this forum that include bootloaders and other more critical parts of the firmware.
Triangle away is a useful tool, even for our phone, but the point is that it is certainly not the first choice to clear the warning triangle, or reset the flash counter.
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According to this thread, the jig method of resetting the counter was disabled by AT&T on later GB bootloaders and ICS. Unless JB allows for it, the only way to remove the triangle on current roms is to either use Triangle Away or to never increment it in the first place, as per that thread.
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You are mis-quoting me. As far as I am aware, the only crippled bootloaders were included in the ICS leaks before AT&T released the official ICS. I'm definitely not aware of any I777 phones, new or refurbished, being received with crippled bootloaders.
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You are mis-quoting me. As far as I am aware, the only crippled bootloaders were included in the ICS leaks before AT&T released the official ICS. I'm definitely not aware of any I777 phones, new or refurbished, being received with crippled bootloaders.
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I'm very sure I quoted you quite precisely. I made no mention of the bootloaders that came with the ICS leaks being the culprits. The thread I linked to does mention that, but it also mentions that functionality being removed on the last GB update that AT&T released. I can vouch for that the last official GB bootloaders removed that functionality. I have not had the chance to try it with the official ICS bootloader.
So, in order to reset the counter, you would have to revert to the old bootloaders, which is equally, if not more-so dangerous than using this app. Unless that functionality made it back into the official ICS bootloaders, then my point is moot.
I've used it on my i777 with i9100 bootloaders. Ran it twice actually. No problems so far . *shrug
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You are mis-quoting me. As far as I am aware, the only crippled bootloaders were included in the ICS leaks before AT&T released the official ICS. I'm definitely not aware of any I777 phones, new or refurbished, being received with crippled bootloaders.
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Actually, creepy I recently received a replacement gs2 after my usb port crashed. Upon receiving it, I rooted it, causing the flash counter to go up. When I tried using my jig to change it back to 0, all it did was put my phone into download mode, without erasing the data. I assume this is because when I received my phone is was running ics so att must have changed the bootloaders
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Actually, creepy I recently received a replacement gs2 after my usb port crashed. Upon receiving it, I rooted it, causing the flash counter to go up. When I tried using my jig to change it back to 0, all it did was put my phone into download mode, without erasing the data. I assume this is because when I received my phone is was running ics so att must have changed the bootloaders
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You can always grab the older boot loaders from the 'Return to stock' sticky in the dev forum and flash em back...
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You can always grab the older boot loaders from the 'Return to stock' sticky in the dev forum and flash em back...
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Yes, but that's just as risky as using triangleaway - which means creepys advice concerning a jig being the better option is irrelevant.
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Yes, but that's just as risky as using triangleaway - which means creepys advice concerning a jig being the better option is irrelevant.
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No flashing the stock 2.3.4 bootloaders in theory only gets risky if you're trying to flash it with like 10% battery left. Its not like the bunk kernels from ATT with the brick bug or trying to flash recovery with ROM Manager. Flashing the boot loaders (or any component) with Odin/Mobile Odin carries the same 'simple' risk flashing any firmware does. Follow the directions and you 'technically' shouldn't need to worry.
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No flashing the stock 2.3.4 bootloaders in theory only gets risky if you're trying to flash it with like 10% battery left. Its not like the bunk kernels from ATT with the brick bug or trying to flash recovery with ROM Manager. Flashing the boot loaders (or any component) with Odin/Mobile Odin carries the same 'simple' risk flashing any firmware does. Follow the directions and you 'technically' shouldn't need to worry.
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Doesn't matter. Creepy's argument was that using triangleaway is risky because it involves alterations involving the bootloaders. So using his logic, flashing those bootloaders is likewise risky, and if a jig doesn't work any longer, triangleaway is just as viable an alternative as flashing old bootloaders is.
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@benjamingdelacruz,
Thanks for the info about your phone coming with ICS and a crippled bootloader. That is the first confirmation I have seen of that for the I777. It's not surprising, I guess. The SGS III and other new models also can not be reset with the jig.
As far as the difference between flashing the original secondary bootloader vs using Triangle Away, I guess I mostly agree with you that both are dangerous. The danger with flashing a bootloader is that the power goes off or the cable is unplugged or something else interrupts the flash during the few seconds it takes to actually transfer the bootloader code. With Triangle Away, the program is actually opening and writing to a data register that is controlled by and stored within the secondary bootloader code. I have no idea what could go wrong with that. Maybe more chance for problems than the other. I don't know.
Regardless of all this, I still feel that we should not blithely recommend Triangle Away as the first choice for this phone. And it is especially important that people understand that using Triangle Away is not a normal safe operation.
For anyone not on the new ICS boot loaders, a jig seems the safer solution. Plus, I like grapes. I've never personally had any reason to flash different boot loaders, but glad we got confirmation this is an issue with the new ics ones.
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Must be hit or miss, the jig worked on the i777 I got as a replacement with ICS already installed.
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Never had problems using it.
Triangle away works right now, and it's free. A jig costs, and I have to wait for it to ship and arrive.
I'll keep using triangle away. If I brick XDA will be first to know..
raduque said:
Triangle away works right now, and it's free. A jig costs, and I have to wait for it to ship and arrive.
I'll keep using triangle away. If I brick XDA will be first to know..
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Well in all fairness, if u did brick yer phone after knowing the risks and seeing this thread, itd be kinda silly to post yer brick question here.
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I always hear the warnings "rooting can brick your phone" but I was wondering how many have reported truly "Bricking" their phones trying to root?? I have a new GS2 and naturally a bit reluctant to root since it will void my warranty, but I am not a stranger to modding, I had a LG VU and with the help of guys from the LGVU forum I totally modded that phone to do be either a iPhone, Android or Storm looking/acting phone.. It took replacing system files and so on but I always backed up the originals so after 2 years of modding I was able to get the phone back to it factory state easily... The only "Bricking" resulted with LG VU members was due to having little tech sense or reading instructions on the correct procedures when modding..
That said, I felt the risk with the VU was minimal since I purchased it on ebay so there wasn't a warranty issue and more importantly it would have only cost me $100-150 to replace compared to this $500+ phone
My main reason for rooting is to get rid of the AT&T bloat and increase my battery life, a very knowledgeable member from the AT&T forum is also a Senior member/adviser here at XDA and reported increasing his battery life BIGTIME after rooting and making some changes post root.. TIA
If you do it perfectly, back up things you have to and flash kernels safely and absolutely by-the-book, nothing SHOULD happen. I've bricked an old GalaxyS1 by flashing a kernel but if you be extra careful and only get kernels that have been tested and generally, not f**k around, you'll be safe.
READ, READ, and READ some more. The best way to determine if something is safe or not is to really understand *what* you're doing.
What is "rooting" actually doing to your phone? How is it doing it? Answer that and you'll know if it's safe or not.
Spoiler Alert: If you don't do anything stupid, and aren't unlucky, it's perfectly safe.
its actually kinda hard to brick these phones by just attempting to root it. As long as you stay away from bootloaders, you'll be fine.
Buy a jig and go wild.
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its actually kinda hard to brick these phones by just attempting to root it. As long as you stay away from bootloaders, you'll be fine.
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Yup, the most important thing is:
Do NOT flash anything meant for the I9100. If the package includes bootloaders (many do), it will likely hose your device. Similarly, don't flash the UCKJ1 leak unless designgears has put up a "bootloader-free" version. While it won't brick you, it does eliminate the ability to use a jig to reset your "custom binary count" counter.
Other than that - anything linked to from the first post of a thread in the dev forum should be safe. (although some stuff, such as netchip's kernels, will result in you getting some experience with un-hosing your device with Odin/Heimdall.)
It's next to impossible to brick most Samsung phones, including ours, unless you mess with bootloaders. If you see the files boot.bin or Sbl.bin in a flash package, be VERY wary.
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Yup, the most important thing is:
Do NOT flash anything meant for the I9100. If the package includes bootloaders (many do), it will likely hose your device. Similarly, don't flash the UCKJ1 leak unless designgears has put up a "bootloader-free"
It's next to impossible to brick most Samsung phones, including ours, unless you mess with bootloaders. If you see the files boot.bin or Sbl.bin in a flash package, be VERY wary.
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thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
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thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-101-bootloaders-20110527/
info about bootloaders
Captpt said:
thanks guys, not sure what bootloaders are yet but I now know I don't want them lol.. I've got lots of reading to do, I never jump into anything halfcocked.. Can you please tell me how rooting will greatly improve my battery life?? is it the rooting itself or things I can or should adjust or eliminate that helps increase battery life??
ALSO:will it help with the slight lag experienced with Gingerbread??
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Rooting itself alone won't do anything.
A more aggressive debloating than what AT&T lets you do likely will.
Can't anything be fixed with Odin?
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Can't anything be fixed with Odin?
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anything, like what?
nyydynasty said:
anything, like what?
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Literally flashing a rom from another device with a different bootloader. Can't Odin just completely reflash all stock stuff?
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seh6183 said:
Literally flashing a rom from another device with a different bootloader. Can't Odin just completely reflash all stock stuff?
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The bootloader is the phone side of download mode. Break it, you break Odin.
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The bootloader is the phone side of download mode. Break it, you break Odin.
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Scary stuff.
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Scary stuff.
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It is along with being all greek at the moment... lots to read and research before doing anything..
As someone who just rooted his sg2 (which I got after getting rid of my iPhone this week), and as someone who had never used an android device previously, rooting was easy as pie.
And by that I mean things will turn out great if you take your time, chose a flavor (research), and follow the recipe (instructions).
I rooted and installed a ROM today. No issues at all. Just don't rush things and be sure to research.
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It is along with being all greek at the moment... lots to read and research before doing anything..
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Its not that hard to actually do the rooting and installing of custom roms. Once you get the hang of it, its nothing. The scary thing is that it becomes so easy that you could easily make a mistake and flash a corrupted bootloader and have a big problem on your hands.
Its almost too easy.
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Okay, this is driving me nuts. I've found multiple posts on how to unroot my phone but ALL the links are dead for Odin and everything I need to do it. SOMEBODY PLEASE throw me some links that work and instructions! I rooted it with the one click root method thing. I gotta get this thing back to stock so I can get my replacement since the screen is cracked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
This is a great thread. It should have everything you need. Good luck
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Okay, this is driving me nuts. I've found multiple posts on how to unroot my phone but ALL the links are dead for Odin and everything I need to do it. SOMEBODY PLEASE throw me some links that work and instructions! I rooted it with the one click root method thing. I gotta get this thing back to stock so I can get my replacement since the screen is cracked.
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You don't need to unroot your phone. I sent mine back rooted with a custom rom and got a replacement.
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You don't need to unroot your phone. I sent mine back rooted with a custom rom and got a replacement.
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IMO its not worth the risk when it takes less than 5 minutes to Odin back to stock.
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You don't need to unroot your phone. I sent mine back rooted with a custom rom and got a replacement.
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Thats great...but when they go to test it and find out that its been hacked, Verizon is going trace that phone back to you and charge you for the replacement. As the poster above stated, its not worth the risk when it takes 5min to odin back to stock.
they actually still can tell that the phone has been flashed even if you odin back to stock. The only way to truly completely hide that the phone has been rooted is to use a usb jig and reset the custom binary download counter.
But they honestly don't care. This is all much ado over nothing.
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they actually still can tell that the phone has been flashed even if you odin back to stock. The only way to truly completely hide that the phone has been rooted is to use a usb jig and reset the custom binary download counter.
But they honestly don't care. This is all much ado over nothing.
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On the new devices that have flash counters yes...but from my understanding not on the fascinates or older devices. Maybe Im wrong tho?
I was pretty sure that the fascinated had this counter as it is triggered when Odin flashes the phone.
Anyway, I'll try to look into it if I get time.
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I was pretty sure that the fascinated had this counter as it is triggered when Odin flashes the phone.
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I was unaware of this existing. Thanks for the fun fact.
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I was pretty sure that the fascinated had this counter as it is triggered when Odin flashes the phone.
Anyway, I'll try to look into it if I get time.
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Yes, thank you for that info!
i have been looking around but i dont see anything to help. my problem is that i have a samsung att i777 or the galaxy s2, but i have recently flashed new roms and custom kernels an like certain things from all. unfortunatly i dont like any certain one . but the problem is that i tripped my counter and i dont know how to reset it. i have a jig and have tried multipul times, but still nothing. i have odined back to stock everything. just a minute ago i flashed the newest modem but still same prob. while in download mode it says factory mode on top. instead of odin mode. someone with some kind of expierence please can you give me a pointer?
Do you have the right jig
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I don't understand your problem... Are you trying to return your phone? It only matters if you are bringing it back to att. what it sounds like to me is li dint like any roms i want to go back to stock." To which id say you have it at stock let the counter stay.
But to answer your question... The sgs2 had tighter tolerances on the resistor used, meaning some old ones won't work. Idr what thread it was so use the search feature of the forum to find which jigs people have had good luck with, the info it's out there.
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I made my jig with parts from radio shack. Worked for my captivate and works for my GSII
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@pogmothoin17,
If your jig boots your phone into download mode, but the flash counter does not get reset, then somewhere along the line, you flash one of the leaked roms, 2.3.5 or 2.3.6, or you installed an I9100 rom that also installed a secondary bootloader. Since you say the flash counter reads Factory mode instead of Odin mode, I'm guessing you flashed one of the I777 leaks. If you install one of the leaks with the one-click Odin downloader, it will install a new secondary bootloader, that is programmed to not reset the flash counter. I don't know what the flash counter says in that case, but it could be factory mode. It would make sense. Anyway, if that is the case, you need to flash back to the original I777 UCKH7 secondary bootloader. Go here to get the file and instructions.
Well thank y'all for the feedback. No I wasntgonna return the phone I actually love it. Coming from a vibrant especially. I like some things for all the custom Roms and kernels. Just not enough to stay with one for the.moment. I am not in depth enough yet to try and make my own or.customize a.rom .....even though that is what o wanna start doing. The way I look at.it is I took it back to stock to see how this ota. 2.3.6 update was. When I go back to stock I like everything to be normal....as it was new. Its more just a pet peeve. Creepyandcrawlwy I was actually hoping you'd respond as I hear great things about you. I use xda quite a bit but just became a memebr thinking of would help if I had any questions as I advanced in my phone Modding abilities . Thanks again for all the help and ill try all this again.
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And actually my wifi don't work either after flashing back to stock any ideas?
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did you wipe data/factory reset?
Yea sure did before and after reflashing
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It doesn't make sense then. If you flashed back to stock using Entropy's unbrick/return to stock package and a wipe, it should be totally stock, and wifi should work. Could it be a problem with the router?
I dunno I don't get it niether I got my wifi working but still have a count. And phone is not ota updating either. It keeps saying up to date bit I'm still running 2.3.4. My brother got his update.
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@creepyandcrawly....what is a good rom to flash? If you don't mind me asking
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Its totally a personal matter. I've been using Unnamed since shortly after I got the phone and there hasn't been any reason to change.
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Is there any way that maybe I've missed to either a) root the TMo GS3 without triggering the counter (I saw methods for AT&T and others) or b) reset the counter after triggering it? I've searched and searched without finding anything. Is there anything out there or would it be fairly simple to create something? I'm willing to get my hands dirty to create this if somebody is able to help me through he process.
Are the methods AT&T users use reproducible for us?
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I'm looking for a way too. Havent rooted yet till I find a way. I have 30 days to try out Tmo through costco but I want to root so I can restore my apps+ data back via titanium.
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I'm looking for a way too. Havent rooted yet till I find a way. I have 30 days to try out Tmo through costco but I want to root so I can restore my apps+ data back via titanium.
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Costco is the best! Great prices on phones too! There will be a way to reset it eventually. That is my GUESS.
Okay, I've found the process for creating the proper files so this can be done. It'll just be a specific Odin file, slightly tweaked from a stock Odin file.
I've never tried this before although it seems to be fairly standard with Galaxy devices. I don't believe ANYBODY has ever tried this on a T999 before.
I'm thinking I'll have something to test with this weekend. Anybody interested in helping me to test this? If you do, you do so knowing that this may
1) trigger your counter anyways, and
2) brick your phone into oblivion and make it blow up and kill your dog
If anybody's willing to take the plunge, I'll chime back in later to coordinate the testing. I need others to risk triggering their counter as I have 1 and only 1 device with the counter still at 0 and I want to personally see it successfully in action before I publicly release it. But if I miss something and trigger my counter, then I'll never be able to test it again until we find a way to reset the counter.
Thanks for taking the initiative. Hope you get successful results.
It's a triple digit counter. Go over 999 it resets
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It's a triple digit counter. Go over 999 it resets
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LOL! Nice!
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It's a triple digit counter. Go over 999 it resets
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That's a lot of flashing lol
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I'm replacing this handset I'll be the guniue pig. Also mobile Odin pro offers a root without triggering the counter
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I'm replacing this handset I'll be the guniue pig. Also mobile Odin pro offers a root without triggering the counter
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Really?? Can you link me up with some info, please?
Looking at the description in Play:
!!! Your device must be rooted to be able to use Mobile ODIN. Check the list below to see if your device is supported !!!
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^Right, you have to be rooted, so your counter will already be at 1 at least.
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^Right, you have to be rooted, so your counter will already be at 1 at least.
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Okay, gotcha. So my method is still necessary to avoid that first counter trigger. Thanks for the clarification.
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I'm replacing this handset I'll be the guniue pig.
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Hit me up on Twitter (@Jaxidian) or GTalk (Jaxidian)? I'll get you Dropbox links when I have this ready (will be doing it over the weekend unless something comes up).
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Anybody else interested in helping test? Remember, I'm probably going to brick your phone and make it turn into a Decepticon where it'll kill your goldfish. And more realistically, if I mess it up, it'll probably be a soft-brick that will require a stock Odin flash and/or it'll trigger your flash counter.
So I'm mostly finished creating the file for this but I'm stopping. mrRobinson beat me to it, and apparently did so last night!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687
So I rooted my Note 2 a couple of weeks ago and I want to update to Kitkat. What do you suggest I do?
unroot then do OTA update?
I know @Surge1223 on the Galaxy S4 thread designed a way to go from root to kitkat and keep the root. Any one out there doing something similar for this device?
Thanks
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So I rooted my Note 2 a couple of weeks ago and I want to update to Kitkat. What do you suggest I do?
unroot then do OTA update?
I know @Surge1223 on the Galaxy S4 thread designed a way to go from root to kitkat and keep the root. Any one out there doing something similar for this device?
Thanks
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I'm holding off on the update like most people say. Updating locked our bootloader so who knows what the next update could do. If you're rooted then just flash a kk ROM and be safe.
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I'm holding off on the update like most people say. Updating locked our bootloader so who knows what the next update could do. If you're rooted then just flash a kk ROM and be safe.
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The only thing with that is, that the screen is cracked on it and I dont know if we plan on claiming the insurance on it. So if I flash it, I assume I will set off the flash/knox counter. Then I will have to purchase triangle away to reset it, correct? I guess I may have to do that anyways if I plan on unrooting it.
No idea what you mean by flash/counter and purchasing triangle. But if you mean flashing to stock and unrooting it's simple. Learn Odin search for use Odin s3 on XDA and its simple. If you get to that point I'll help you out. Hangouts I'm [email protected]
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fuzzychinsagrero said:
No idea what you mean by flash/counter and purchasing triangle. But if you mean flashing to stock and unrooting it's simple. Learn Odin search for use Odin s3 on XDA and its simple. If you get to that point I'll help you out. Hangouts I'm [email protected]
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Thanks @fuzzychinsagrero. The counter is a warranty thing, at least it is on the s3 and s4, that can tell if you have modified or put a different OS (ie. cynaogen, etc). If that counter has been changed from 0, sometimes they void the warranty because you tampered with it. I think you can tell if you have by doing the vol down+home+power when turning on the phone. Then do volume up for download mode and then you can see in the text in the upper left hand corner a flash counter and knox counter. Like I said, this is how it is on the s3 and s4, I figure it is the same.
socha818 said:
Thanks @fuzzychinsagrero. The counter is a warranty thing, at least it is on the s3 and s4, that can tell if you have modified or put a different OS (ie. cynaogen, etc). If that counter has been changed from 0, sometimes they void the warranty because you tampered with it. I think you can tell if you have by doing the vol down+home+power when turning on the phone. Then do volume up for download mode and then you can see in the text in the upper left hand corner a flash counter and knox counter. Like I said, this is how it is on the s3 and s4, I figure it is the same.
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Oh yeah got you now. And yes it does change. Odin I'd a great tool and very helpful. Good luck.
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fuzzychinsagrero said:
Oh yeah got you now. And yes it does change. Odin I'd a great tool and very helpful. Good luck.
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And If I am correct, Triangle Away by chainfire, can reset that counter. Yes, odin is great I have used it to do some on my s4 and s3 I used to have.
Only way to get kitkat right now is to wait till Verizon actually releases, which wont be at least for another couple months. I wouldnt be surprised if its released after the Note 4 is released. (4.3 for Note 2 was pushed out after note 3, if I remember correctly. I might be wrong).
But as of right now, unless you're running 4.1.2 with an unlocked bootlader, you're out of luck.
But if you do have an unlocked bootloader, go flash AOKP or CM11 nightly builds. I prefer AOKP because it seemed a little more stable than CM11.
socha818 said:
And If I am correct, Triangle Away by chainfire, can reset that counter. Yes, odin is great I have used it to do some on my s4 and s3 I used to have.
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AFAIK Triangle Away simply hides the lock but if you dive deep in settings the system still reports as "Custom".
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