[Q] Avoiding/resetting the TMo flash counter? - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

Is there any way that maybe I've missed to either a) root the TMo GS3 without triggering the counter (I saw methods for AT&T and others) or b) reset the counter after triggering it? I've searched and searched without finding anything. Is there anything out there or would it be fairly simple to create something? I'm willing to get my hands dirty to create this if somebody is able to help me through he process.

Are the methods AT&T users use reproducible for us?

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I'm looking for a way too. Havent rooted yet till I find a way. I have 30 days to try out Tmo through costco but I want to root so I can restore my apps+ data back via titanium.

aznmode said:
I'm looking for a way too. Havent rooted yet till I find a way. I have 30 days to try out Tmo through costco but I want to root so I can restore my apps+ data back via titanium.
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Costco is the best! Great prices on phones too! There will be a way to reset it eventually. That is my GUESS.

Okay, I've found the process for creating the proper files so this can be done. It'll just be a specific Odin file, slightly tweaked from a stock Odin file.
I've never tried this before although it seems to be fairly standard with Galaxy devices. I don't believe ANYBODY has ever tried this on a T999 before.
I'm thinking I'll have something to test with this weekend. Anybody interested in helping me to test this? If you do, you do so knowing that this may
1) trigger your counter anyways, and
2) brick your phone into oblivion and make it blow up and kill your dog
If anybody's willing to take the plunge, I'll chime back in later to coordinate the testing. I need others to risk triggering their counter as I have 1 and only 1 device with the counter still at 0 and I want to personally see it successfully in action before I publicly release it. But if I miss something and trigger my counter, then I'll never be able to test it again until we find a way to reset the counter.

Thanks for taking the initiative. Hope you get successful results.

It's a triple digit counter. Go over 999 it resets
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Android_Monsters said:
It's a triple digit counter. Go over 999 it resets
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LOL! Nice!

Android_Monsters said:
It's a triple digit counter. Go over 999 it resets
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That's a lot of flashing lol
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I'm replacing this handset I'll be the guniue pig. Also mobile Odin pro offers a root without triggering the counter
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MacTheRipperr said:
I'm replacing this handset I'll be the guniue pig. Also mobile Odin pro offers a root without triggering the counter
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Really?? Can you link me up with some info, please?
Looking at the description in Play:
!!! Your device must be rooted to be able to use Mobile ODIN. Check the list below to see if your device is supported !!!
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^Right, you have to be rooted, so your counter will already be at 1 at least.

stevessvt said:
^Right, you have to be rooted, so your counter will already be at 1 at least.
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Okay, gotcha. So my method is still necessary to avoid that first counter trigger. Thanks for the clarification.

MacTheRipperr said:
I'm replacing this handset I'll be the guniue pig.
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Hit me up on Twitter (@Jaxidian) or GTalk (Jaxidian)? I'll get you Dropbox links when I have this ready (will be doing it over the weekend unless something comes up).
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Anybody else interested in helping test? Remember, I'm probably going to brick your phone and make it turn into a Decepticon where it'll kill your goldfish. And more realistically, if I mess it up, it'll probably be a soft-brick that will require a stock Odin flash and/or it'll trigger your flash counter.

So I'm mostly finished creating the file for this but I'm stopping. mrRobinson beat me to it, and apparently did so last night!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687

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Trying to unroot

Okay, this is driving me nuts. I've found multiple posts on how to unroot my phone but ALL the links are dead for Odin and everything I need to do it. SOMEBODY PLEASE throw me some links that work and instructions! I rooted it with the one click root method thing. I gotta get this thing back to stock so I can get my replacement since the screen is cracked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
This is a great thread. It should have everything you need. Good luck
Partner420 said:
Okay, this is driving me nuts. I've found multiple posts on how to unroot my phone but ALL the links are dead for Odin and everything I need to do it. SOMEBODY PLEASE throw me some links that work and instructions! I rooted it with the one click root method thing. I gotta get this thing back to stock so I can get my replacement since the screen is cracked.
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You don't need to unroot your phone. I sent mine back rooted with a custom rom and got a replacement.
pma7779 said:
You don't need to unroot your phone. I sent mine back rooted with a custom rom and got a replacement.
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IMO its not worth the risk when it takes less than 5 minutes to Odin back to stock.
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pma7779 said:
You don't need to unroot your phone. I sent mine back rooted with a custom rom and got a replacement.
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Thats great...but when they go to test it and find out that its been hacked, Verizon is going trace that phone back to you and charge you for the replacement. As the poster above stated, its not worth the risk when it takes 5min to odin back to stock.
they actually still can tell that the phone has been flashed even if you odin back to stock. The only way to truly completely hide that the phone has been rooted is to use a usb jig and reset the custom binary download counter.
But they honestly don't care. This is all much ado over nothing.
bobloblaw1 said:
they actually still can tell that the phone has been flashed even if you odin back to stock. The only way to truly completely hide that the phone has been rooted is to use a usb jig and reset the custom binary download counter.
But they honestly don't care. This is all much ado over nothing.
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On the new devices that have flash counters yes...but from my understanding not on the fascinates or older devices. Maybe Im wrong tho?
I was pretty sure that the fascinated had this counter as it is triggered when Odin flashes the phone.
Anyway, I'll try to look into it if I get time.
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bobloblaw1 said:
I was pretty sure that the fascinated had this counter as it is triggered when Odin flashes the phone.
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I was unaware of this existing. Thanks for the fun fact.
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bobloblaw1 said:
I was pretty sure that the fascinated had this counter as it is triggered when Odin flashes the phone.
Anyway, I'll try to look into it if I get time.
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Yes, thank you for that info!

Warranty Question

My phone broke so the power button no longer works. I called AT&T and they are going to send my a new (or refurbished) phone. My question is what would be the easiest way to reset my flash counter so they don't know i voided my warranty. the way i see it i have two options:
1. Buy a jig really fast and use that
2. Flash an ICS rom and install Triangle Away ( an app by chainfire).
I'd prefer number 2 but as my power button is broken, I would not be able to manually boot into download mode when i'm done to restore the stock rom. Would flashing an older version of miui or any other rom with an option in the interface to boot to download mode work in my case?
Any input is appreciated. I would really not like to pay $400 is they found i voided my warranty.
Sounds like jig is the.only real option. Maybe find someone locally who has one?
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You have 10 days to return it, I think.
You can also buy the parts at a local Radio Shack or other electronics parts store. You need 401,000 ohms across pins 2 and 5 (I think, typing from memory here. Verify before acting.) It's not as easy as a jig, but can be done in a few hours or less.
Best bet is to make it yourself if you can handle basic soldering..Otherwise find an ebay seller within a few hundred miles that has a good rep for fast shipping. Tough to navigate w/o power, good luck!
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You can also boot into download mode buy powering off your phone and holding volume up and down buttons and hooking your phone to your computer works for me everytime.
Mmm doesn't an app give u the option to boot into download mode like that cwm app or Rom toolbox?
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Phalanx7621 said:
Mmm doesn't an app give u the option to boot into download mode like that cwm app or Rom toolbox?
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You can always use adb reboot download to reboot into download if you got adb setup
Why reset anything? It's broken. Drop it in the toilet.
rangercaptain said:
Why reset anything? It's broken. Drop it in the toilet.
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I'm getting a new one sent and they need the old one back. If they find the warranty void or I don't send it ill end up paying like 400 bucks
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h0ckey10 said:
I'm getting a new one sent and they need the old one back. If they find the warranty void or I don't send it ill end up paying like 400 bucks
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That's why I am leaving mine at stock, until the warranty ends.
BeenAndroidized said:
That's why I am leaving mine at stock, until the warranty ends.
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I'm sure you seen this thread already: [GUIDE] How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!!.
I carefully followed the steps and it worked flawlessly. Haven't had to flash a ROM over USB since the initial Stock+root ROM and never incremented the flash counter.
Are you just playing it safe just in case?
Lekerstein said:
I'm sure you seen this thread already: [GUIDE] How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!!.
I carefully followed the steps and it worked flawlessly. Haven't had to flash a ROM over USB since the initial Stock+root ROM and never incremented the flash counter.
Are you just playing it safe just in case?
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That's what I did as well. Custom ROM count is still at zero
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[Q] Rooting? What am I doign wrong?

I've reflashed my phone with odin back to I9100XXLSJ/I9100OXXLS1/I9100XXLS6. I've tried various unsecure kernels but I can't get any past the yellow triangle. So that I can use super-one-click to root the phone.
What am I doing wrong?
Is it because my phone is still locked to my carrier? Must I unlock it that way first?
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I've reflashed my phone with odin back to I9100XXLSJ/I9100OXXLS1/I9100XXLS6. I've tried various unsecure kernels but I can't get any past the yellow triangle. So that I can use super-one-click to root the phone.
What am I doing wrong?
Is it because my phone is still locked to my carrier? Must I unlock it that way first?
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to wade away the ghost you need ghost hunter, to wade away the triangle you need triangle away http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114 :laugh:
and if it's a bootloop, did you did a factory reset, wiped cache and wipe dalvik.
Try to shutdown kies if u have
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drraptor said:
to wade away the ghost you need ghost hunter, to wade away the triangle you need triangle away http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114 :laugh:
and if it's a bootloop, did you did a factory reset, wiped cache and wipe dalvik.
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That software says it requires root. I'm trying to get the phone to boot an unsecure Kernel so that I can root the phone. I'm not getting past the triangle.
which kernels have you tried? I think it may be in the kernels..
Why not revert back to stock rom, root and then flash leaked JB 4.1.2?
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That software says it requires root. I'm trying to get the phone to boot an unsecure Kernel so that I can root the phone. I'm not getting past the triangle.
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For rooting simply follow. Method 1 instructions 2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794 No need for flashing insecure kernels.
drraptor said:
For rooting simply follow. Method 1 instructions 2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794 No need for flashing insecure kernels.
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OMG!!! Thank you. THis is what I've been looking for!! Now if I can only find a way to sim unlock my phone. the NV_DATA.BIN patching with SAMSUNGUNLOCKER v1.4 doesn't work for me(I can't find the CPU version). I know you probably have a fix for that as well, right? Thanks really....
GalaxSim Unlock
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vanisleryan said:
GalaxSim Unlock
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I tried that already. I can't get play store to accept any of my credit cards, nor will they accept paypal. I can't buy anything in play store it sucks. None of my VISA Electron logo-ed cards work. It' what is most common here in Mexico.
fbarcenas said:
I tried that already. I can't get play store to accept any of my credit cards, nor will they accept paypal. I can't buy anything in play store it sucks. None of my VISA Electron logo-ed cards work. It' what is most common here in Mexico.
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International card? try entropay.com.
Remember to get mobile odin (it's got the everroot option, so you'll never worry about rooting again), titanium back up pro (well...back up & freeze apps), betterbatterystats (to check what's goin on with you batt in case needed), cpu spy (free), busybox instaler(s) from the market.
For network unlocking, try this.
Damn, should get a comission for all this
gastonw said:
International card? try entropay.com.
Remember to get mobile odin (it's got the everroot option, so you'll never worry about rooting again), titanium back up pro (well...back up & freeze apps), betterbatterystats (to check what's goin on with you batt in case needed), cpu spy (free), busybox instaler(s) from the market.
For network unlocking, try this.
Damn, should get a commission for all this
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thanks for all this info.
Entropay has me on hold for review. So I can forget about getting instant payment.
There are only 2 companies selling Google play store credits with electronic delivery. One in Walmart and canceled my order because I was not located in the US, which is stupid because it's electronic delivery. And the other still has not replied to my order.
I already tried that program but it does not work for me. I do not have a GPU assisted laptop to get the code, and the replacing the NV_data.bin did not work for me. It still asks me for the code.
This is so daunting just to do something so simple like pay for something. I'm at the point where I'm willing to pay $5 bucks commission to anyone that will buy me and deliver a 10 dollar google play store code.
And you're sayin' that google wallet turned down your cards? try support, always works.
The app is free here on xda, have a search for it.
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OMG!! You rock!
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fbarcenas said:
I tried that already. I can't get play store to accept any of my credit cards, nor will they accept paypal. I can't buy anything in play store it sucks. None of my VISA Electron logo-ed cards work. It' what is most common here in Mexico.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846451
Here it is free to xda users...dont forget to thank developer.
Oops...a little late glad you sorted it out.
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[Q] Bricked?

Stock ROM, Rooted and Unlocked.
Phone did the OTA update from today (5/2/13), rebooted to the green android, progress got to about 3/4 done and the screen goes black, battery was full charge.
Phone will not come on now, no button combinations work, computer (odin or toolkit) does not see the phone.
Are there any other options that I can try?
Did you do a battery pull?
TonikJDK said:
Did you do a battery pull?
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Multiple times, still nothing.
Only thing I do get, when I hold the power button, the proximity light will flash for a brief second.
What es your battery like. It could be a dead battery
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kintwofan said:
What es your battery like. It could be a dead battery
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Stated that in the OP, battery was full when I started the update. Only took it about 5 minutes before it went black, so I know the battery isn't the issue.
You may have bricked your phone. You're not supposed to run the update if you're rooted and unlocked, something about it not being able to update with a custom recovery. I almost made the same mistake.
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You may have bricked your phone. You're not supposed to run the update if you're rooted and unlocked, something about it not being able to update with a custom recovery. I almost made the same mistake.
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I had put the stock recovery back on it before letting the update even download.
It's bricked..
Yeah it's dead.
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I had put the stock recovery back on it before letting the update even download.
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Oops missed the full battery line in the OP. How did you put stock recovery back? Did you return the phone back to stock?
By the way can you even get into Download Mode by holding volume down+home and power?
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Oops missed the full battery line in the OP. How did you put stock recovery back? Did you return the phone back to stock?
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Used Note 2 Toolkit to get stock recovery back on it (using Odin) but had left the phone unlocked and rooted.
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Used Note 2 Toolkit to get stock recovery back on it (using Odin) but had left the phone unlocked and rooted.
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Gotcha, I never use toolkits so didn't even know that was an option. Well guess you know now to nut take an ota with a unlocked phone. Kind of strange it won't enter Download Mode.
I saw in anther post that are making Verizon send you a replacement since you bricked your phone, so I guess this thread is pointless now
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Gotcha, I never use toolkits so didn't even know that was an option. Well guess you know now to nut take an ota with a unlocked phone. Kind of strange it won't enter Download Mode.
I saw in anther post that are making Verizon send you a replacement since you bricked your phone, so I guess this thread is pointless now
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Yeah, is kind of pointless now, but again, the keyword was should have a replacement, knowing Verizon, I will likely get screwed. But if I can somehow get this one back up and going, I can tell them to cancel it.
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Yeah, is kind of pointless now, but again, the keyword was should have a replacement, knowing Verizon, I will likely get screwed. But if I can somehow get this one back up and going, I can tell them to cancel it.
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Same exact thing happened to me . Chk this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249146
Only way to recover is a RIFF / JTAG . I even tried the 300 KOhm and 301 KOhm jig to get it into Download mode and nothing ...... So its def a *REAL* brick that needs expert equipment or a factory service.

[Q] Rooted, now want kitkat

So I rooted my Note 2 a couple of weeks ago and I want to update to Kitkat. What do you suggest I do?
unroot then do OTA update?
I know @Surge1223 on the Galaxy S4 thread designed a way to go from root to kitkat and keep the root. Any one out there doing something similar for this device?
Thanks
socha818 said:
So I rooted my Note 2 a couple of weeks ago and I want to update to Kitkat. What do you suggest I do?
unroot then do OTA update?
I know @Surge1223 on the Galaxy S4 thread designed a way to go from root to kitkat and keep the root. Any one out there doing something similar for this device?
Thanks
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I'm holding off on the update like most people say. Updating locked our bootloader so who knows what the next update could do. If you're rooted then just flash a kk ROM and be safe.
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fuzzychinsagrero said:
I'm holding off on the update like most people say. Updating locked our bootloader so who knows what the next update could do. If you're rooted then just flash a kk ROM and be safe.
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The only thing with that is, that the screen is cracked on it and I dont know if we plan on claiming the insurance on it. So if I flash it, I assume I will set off the flash/knox counter. Then I will have to purchase triangle away to reset it, correct? I guess I may have to do that anyways if I plan on unrooting it.
No idea what you mean by flash/counter and purchasing triangle. But if you mean flashing to stock and unrooting it's simple. Learn Odin search for use Odin s3 on XDA and its simple. If you get to that point I'll help you out. Hangouts I'm [email protected]
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fuzzychinsagrero said:
No idea what you mean by flash/counter and purchasing triangle. But if you mean flashing to stock and unrooting it's simple. Learn Odin search for use Odin s3 on XDA and its simple. If you get to that point I'll help you out. Hangouts I'm [email protected]
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Thanks @fuzzychinsagrero. The counter is a warranty thing, at least it is on the s3 and s4, that can tell if you have modified or put a different OS (ie. cynaogen, etc). If that counter has been changed from 0, sometimes they void the warranty because you tampered with it. I think you can tell if you have by doing the vol down+home+power when turning on the phone. Then do volume up for download mode and then you can see in the text in the upper left hand corner a flash counter and knox counter. Like I said, this is how it is on the s3 and s4, I figure it is the same.
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Thanks @fuzzychinsagrero. The counter is a warranty thing, at least it is on the s3 and s4, that can tell if you have modified or put a different OS (ie. cynaogen, etc). If that counter has been changed from 0, sometimes they void the warranty because you tampered with it. I think you can tell if you have by doing the vol down+home+power when turning on the phone. Then do volume up for download mode and then you can see in the text in the upper left hand corner a flash counter and knox counter. Like I said, this is how it is on the s3 and s4, I figure it is the same.
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Oh yeah got you now. And yes it does change. Odin I'd a great tool and very helpful. Good luck.
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Oh yeah got you now. And yes it does change. Odin I'd a great tool and very helpful. Good luck.
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And If I am correct, Triangle Away by chainfire, can reset that counter. Yes, odin is great I have used it to do some on my s4 and s3 I used to have.
Only way to get kitkat right now is to wait till Verizon actually releases, which wont be at least for another couple months. I wouldnt be surprised if its released after the Note 4 is released. (4.3 for Note 2 was pushed out after note 3, if I remember correctly. I might be wrong).
But as of right now, unless you're running 4.1.2 with an unlocked bootlader, you're out of luck.
But if you do have an unlocked bootloader, go flash AOKP or CM11 nightly builds. I prefer AOKP because it seemed a little more stable than CM11.
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And If I am correct, Triangle Away by chainfire, can reset that counter. Yes, odin is great I have used it to do some on my s4 and s3 I used to have.
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AFAIK Triangle Away simply hides the lock but if you dive deep in settings the system still reports as "Custom".
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