I couldn't find an answer on the threads. I rooted my at&t last night w entropy512s one click kernel and root. Well I'm new to the phone tech so it took me a while. I now cannot use any of the market Hotspot apps to run my tablet off my s2 wifi. I could before the root and from what I was told it should be easier to do this after rooting. Am I missing something? Is there a special way I have to do it now? I'm so confused.
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I'm not familiar with those applications. I don't know any reason they would not work. And it's not clear from your post what exactly the problem is. You mean you can't install them, or that they do not produce a wifi signal even though installed?
Anyway, almost all custom roms include portable wi-fi hotspot, as well as usb tethering and sometimes bluetooth tethering. Since you have rooted, why don't you go ahead and pick a custom rom and put that on. Problem solved.
There is a good guide linked in my signature.
Yeah, once you have a custom rom, just use the built-in tethering. Works great for tablets.
Yea I can install them, I've tried a few of them and none put out a wifi signal. I don't know what rom I should flash yet. Since I did the entropy512s one click root+ kernel I understand that the kernel is gingerbread, does that mean I need a gingerbread rom? I was hoping for the latest, greatest build. Any guidance is GREATLY appreciated as it took me hour just to root. Lol
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nednerbish said:
Yea I can install them, I've tried a few of them and none put out a wifi signal. I don't know what rom I should flash yet. Since I did the entropy512s one click root+ kernel I understand that the kernel is gingerbread, does that mean I need a gingerbread rom? I was hoping for the latest, greatest build. Any guidance is GREATLY appreciated as it took me hour just to root. Lol
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Since you used Entropy512's package to root, you have a stock kernel. In order to install custom firmware, you need to first install a custom kernel that contains ClockworkMod Recovery onto your phone. That kernel must be Gingerbread. However, once you have the kernel and CWM installed, you can then flash any firmware you choose, Gingerbread, ICS or JB.
The guide which is the first link in my signature contains all the info you need.
Fantastic. Thank you so much for your time. I will try first chance I can.
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I will give you two pieces of advice:
1: Follow the instructions given to you by Creepy (and any instructions in the OP of ROMS) to the T.
2: Read then read some more. When you're done with that, read it all over again. Afterwards, follow step 2 again. This goes for searching about any issue you may come across.
Have fun, this device is really amazing once you figure out more about it
Clay
Team Pirate
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I thank you. I will. I'm so confused about this stuff but it seems the more I read I am really UNDERSTANDING what it means. But it takes about 10 read throughs.
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Ok I was told to get entropys dd kernel since it had cwm with it. I guess thats the next step correct?
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Use creepy's guide Ned! You need to figure out what your next step is.
Im on the mobile tapatalk (on vacation), So i cant use my computer to reaserch the xda site easily. Im trying to learn as much as possibe before i get home and actually do it.
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Good plan. When you get the cwm kernel, do a nandroid backup then pick any rom you like... (cm10 nightly just came out, if you like jellybean)
AOKP by Task650 is another JB alternative.
Which is better you ask? Gonna have to try them both! They both offer stability and great user experience for most who try them. Maybe you're a GB or an ICS kinda guy though!
Clay
Team Pirate
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It really doesn't matter much which kernel you choose for the next step, because it's only on your phone for a short time. Assuming you rooted with the Gingerbread stock plus root package, then you need a custom Gingerbread kernel which has ClockworkMod Recovery. I believe the links in my guide for the kernels are still working links.
The root I did said it was root + kernel. I take it the one with the entropy512 one click root+ kernel doesnt include the cwm. Im sorry im jist trying to understand the whole process not just do it. Alot of what i read doesnt click. Loke when I rooted it took me 6+ hours because I didnt know you want to save the file not open it when downldng it. also I read the deleting the tethermanager2.apk will open wifi/tether. True?
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Forget i asked. I re read your comment. Ok its a stock kernel. So it wouldnt. I understand. A stock kernel probably would make it easier to return to stock. right?
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Forget i asked. I re read your comment. Ok its a stock kernel. So it wouldnt. I understand. A stock kernel probably would make it easier to return to stock. right?
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Essentially, yes, but if you're going for custom ROMs, that's not what you want. There are easy ways of getting back to stock if all else fails.
You gotta know what you want first, before you move forward. I know you want tethering to work, and people here have recommended moving to a custom ROM because tethering does not seem to work for you on rooted, stock ROM and stock kernel. So do you want a custom ROM instead (you'll lose some of your current data via that route)? Or do you not care about ROMs and you just want wifi tethering to work now that you're rooted?
Assuming you want just the latter of the two options, I would recommend that you first try a custom kernel (this is different from a custom ROM, but note most custom ROMs include a custom kernel upon install). You mentioned Entropy's Daily Driver Gingerbread kernel, which is a great one. I'd recommend installing it and seeing if that fixes your wifi tethering problem. To install, use Mobile Odin lite version; you can find that apk in Creepy's guide. Download and save the zip from Entropy's DD thread, then extract the zImage file from it (make sure to use the name "zImage", no file extension, important) and move that to your phone via USB mounting. After that, in Mobile Odin lite navigate to the zImage file and flash it; viola, you now have Entropy's custom Gingerbread kernel and stock GB ROM. All custom kernels include ClockworkMod (no other way to get it), so you have that too.
If the custom kernel alone does not fix your wifi tethering problem, then maybe it's time to move to a custom ROM. With CWM, you can flash anything (ROMs, kernels, what have you) much more easily, but we'll get to that after you get the kernel, which is part of the process anyway.
These instructions are all repeated in paragraph 3a of Creepy's guide, and more information is written there, so I would recommend reading it thoroughly so you do understand. I know it's frustrating at first, but you'll get it, and you seem like the type to eventually get it right and understand what you're doing.
THANK YOU!!! I will try that tonight. That was very helpful info. So I CAN do this right from phone the? I saw there were some Apps that can do stuff like that but wasn't sure if they worked. I think I saw one linked to the superuser app. Ill keep you updated
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I also want a new rom also. I'm just trying to get there. LOL
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[Chinese accent] Have patience, Grasshopper.
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I have a few questions to ask.
1. How do I keep CWM installed on the phone? I was able to get it to ODIN and have it, but every time it restarts, it's lost.
2. What is the best ROM for this device? I really would like to keep some of the Samsung/Touchwiz elements.
3. What all do I have to know to do anything on here? Let's say... On the Droid X, I had an .apk to one click root. I used ROM Manager to reboot to clockwork and from there I just selected the zip for the ROM I wanted installed. Is there anything special for this device I'll have to do on here? I already have it rooted and I already know I'll have to use ODIN for a lot of things, but I don't really know what it's purpose is I suppose.
4. Is there an easy way to get rid of Bingware/VZW Bloatware?
Thanks!
I have an asnwer to questions #2 and 4. By far the best rom is COMROM 2.0 , which u can find in fascinate development thread. The answer to question 4 is, yes there is an eassy way to get rid of it, all u have to do is flash comrom it gets rid of all the bloatware for you (like I said its the best rom out there)
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1. If you are running the stock 2.2 OTA updates from verizon the stock kernel is what is holding your CWM back. It will reinstall the stock recovery every time you reboot.
-The best way to elevate this problem is to flash a new kernel. There are many to choose from and not all will work with your fascinate.
-If you choose to flash Unlimate Kangbang (comm ROM) you can flash a kernel and ROM in one nice little package. See the sticky in the dev forum for more kernels and info.
2. This is really up in the air. Many will say Kangbang (comm ROM) simply because they use it and it is spear headed by a majority of the developers for our phone. There are 5 or 6 options for you to choose from and reading over their features would be best.
-Cyanogen MOD 7 is in the works and currently there are two versions. Koas's version is said to be slightly more buggy then JT's. Neither have fully working camera's as of yet. The word on the street though is that JT may have a fully (don't quote me) working release in the coming weeks. If camera is not a deal breaker check it out.
3. I would check here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948722
-This post is a little out of date but it is rich with information on the fascinate. ODIN will be your friend, it is what we use when things go.... not as planned. There are many ODIN packages (radios, ROMS, etc) that will clean the fascinate of previous installs and take care of some problems you may be having if you flash a lot. It should be noted now that most of the ROMS out are already ROOTED so one click and other methods are not needed completely.
4. Yes. If you simply want a stock touchwiz ROM then you can look them up in the sticky. Many of the Devs debloat and debing the stock releases for those that choose that route as an alternative!
Cheers!
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1. If you are running the stock 2.2 OTA updates from verizon the stock kernel is what is holding your CWM back. It will reinstall the stock recovery every time you reboot.
-The best way to elevate this problem is to flash a new kernel. There are many to choose from and not all will work with your fascinate.
-If you choose to flash Unlimate Kangbang (comm ROM) you can flash a kernel and ROM in one nice little package. See the sticky in the dev forum for more kernels and info.
2. This is really up in the air. Many will say Kangbang (comm ROM) simply because they use it and it is spear headed by a majority of the developers for our phone. There are 5 or 6 options for you to choose from and reading over their features would be best.
-Cyanogen MOD 7 is in the works and currently there are two versions. Koas's version is said to be slightly more buggy then JT's. Neither have fully working camera's as of yet. The word on the street though is that JT may have a fully (don't quote me) working release in the coming weeks. If camera is not a deal breaker check it out.
3. I would check here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948722
-This post is a little out of date but it is rich with information on the fascinate. ODIN will be your friend, it is what we use when things go.... not as planned. There are many ODIN packages (radios, ROMS, etc) that will clean the fascinate of previous installs and take care of some problems you may be having if you flash a lot. It should be noted now that most of the ROMS out are already ROOTED so one click and other methods are not needed completely.
4. Yes. If you simply want a stock touchwiz ROM then you can look them up in the sticky. Many of the Devs debloat and debing the stock releases for those that choose that route as an alternative!
Cheers!
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1. How do I know which kernel will work with my phone? And if it's easier, I would prefer to just shoot a ROM with kernel at the phone instead of installing separately.
2. What 5 or 6 am I looking at? I know about the COMM ROM, but I'm unsure I actually want to head that route due to the fact that I don't want to go COMPLETELY stock. After using this phone for a little bit, I really like some parts of Touchwiz, and I'd prefer not to lose that.
3. Thanks for the link. I'll definitely read that over.
4. What sticky are you talking about? I'm looking to get rid of Bing ASAP as this is just killing me when I want to use voice commands or search for anything.... It heads to Bing. I wouldn't mind Bing if I had a WP7, but this is a Google Experience.... Well, technically, it's not, but you understand what I mean.
There are ODIN packages in the development section that have a rom, kernel, etc. You can get a package that is stock... but no bloat, no bing. That would be pretty easy to do. Just make sure you backup data on your phone prior to messing with any of this. Really, I would still recommend com rom, ef, or miui wiz.
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jptech7 said:
There are ODIN packages in the development section that have a rom, kernel, etc. You can get a package that is stock... but no bloat, no bing. That would be pretty easy to do. Just make sure you backup data on your phone prior to messing with any of this. Really, I would still recommend com rom, ef, or miui wiz.
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I don't know what I'm looking for. This forum is too jumbled with thousands of other ROMs and kernels and just everything.
the Evil Fascination rom thread answers a lot of your questions. It includes a kernel, it's voodoo'ed, and its debloated. if you want some of the samsung tw stuff, theres a portion on that thread where you can install it individually.
i'd start off finding a debloated/deodexed stock package and flashing that plus any custom kernels and mods and stuff you may want. Then check out the roms you might want, the two major ones right now being ComRom and CM7, but there are Evil Fascination, Dark Revenge, Superclean, and others which are stable and debloated as well.
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Can you guys just link me to a ROM that's debloated? All I want is Google back so I can give this phone to my mom so she can have a good phone for once.
Shamrock13 said:
Can you guys just link me to a ROM that's debloated? All I want is Google back so I can give this phone to my mom so she can have a good phone for once.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044406
You want the second link in the OP.
MrBigFeathers said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044406
You want the second link in the OP.
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Doesn't really help. I flashed it, and it still gives me the Bing search when I hit the search button.
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Doesn't really help. I flashed it, and it still gives me the Bing search when I hit the search button.
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So I ended up installing EF, the MIUI, and the CommROM. I was just testing them for 10-15 minutes. So far, I like the CommROM the best, but I think MIUI is close.
I've been using CommROM all day, but I hate the colours. I wish it was more a standard Touchwhiz colour palette instead.
Also, I cannot seem to get the time to show up in the status bar. I unchecked the box in TSM parts and restarted my phone, but it's still not showing up. Is there something special I have to do?
change the text color setting in status bar settings in tsm parts, then reboot. As for the rest of the colors; there are plenty of themes for comrom 2.0
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Hello everyone! I recently began contemplating rooting and doing custom installs for my 959, for something fresh and better performing, also seems my music player has been acting up recently and am really interested in something new along with voodoo sound... If necessary anymore ? Thing is, there are so many ways to root, and there are so many custom roms??? I don't know where to start or what to look for? I just want one of the better, stable, new custom roms available as of this date for the t-959. I search but seems there's no definitive answer? Just a lot of roms haha?
Also when downloading a rom, do I have to download like 30-40-50 kernels and add them? I see all these roms, kernels and update??? Is it just download a rom and that's it, am I making more of it than it should be?
I'm just really noob'ish, really confused, and really, really nervous! I can't afford to brick this phone, but I really want something new.
Thanks for reading, and I apologize for some of the silly questions I have asked .
I fell in love with rom flashing as it greatly improves performance and gives phone a new look. Especially since Vibrant isn't supported anymore.. I can't live without voodoo goodies=) Definitely improves sound.
Negative side of custom roms is it takes up some of your time.. Finding a rom you like, tweaking it.. Not too mention you might brick you phone.
If you decide so.. the most important thing is always read OP...
I used superoneclick to root. I recommend Bionix 1.3.1 as a first rom very stable though a bit outdated. After playing around with the rom, you can try different 2.2 kernels and modems. Then go on to gingerbread roms.=)
Extremely easy. I'd suggest reading some of my guides in my signature.
I would Odin
Then download a ROM (nothing else needed)
Download my option b update.zip
Move both to internal sd
Reboot into recovery
Click reinstall packages
Choose to install zip from sd, select ROM, reboot.
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s15274n said:
Extremely easy. I'd suggest reading some of my guides in my signature.
I would Odin
Then download a ROM (nothing else needed)
Download my option b update.zip
Move both to internal sd
Reboot into recovery
Click reinstall packages
Choose to install zip from sd, select ROM, reboot.
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Thank you trailblazer and thanks s15....
Any roms you would recommend s15? I appreciate the starting rom you gave me Trail, I'm looking for something a little more up to date I suppose? I was looking at cm7 or Simply Honey 5.0 Revolution(JVR GB 2.3.4)? Something with voodoo already in it? Something pretty stable with a bit of features. Maybe a lil less lag than stock 2.2, better performance, audio and battery life as well?
Thanks so much again both!
cm7 in nightlies still, though seem pretty stable, i havent tried for a while. Lots of features though dont think battery too great.
Simply Honey is a good one, stable, lots of features, great developer support.
I'm currently on RevolutionRom 2.3.4, stable and smooth for me, only bad is itfreezes like once or twice a day. More of a sgs2 look which i like. Good battery.
FYI Flashing Gingerbread roms, you will need to flash gingerbread bootloaders to remove rainbows and see recovery ( theres a post on it)
Also GPS isn't stable on gingerbread.
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cm7 in nightlies still, though seem pretty stable, i havent tried for a while. Lots of features though dont think battery too great.
Simply Honey is a good one, stable, lots of features, great developer support.
I'm currently on RevolutionRom 2.3.4, stable and smooth for me, only bad is itfreezes like once or twice a day. More of a sgs2 look which i like. Good battery.
FYI Flashing Gingerbread roms, you will need to flash gingerbread bootloaders to remove rainbows and see recovery ( theres a post on it)
Also GPS isn't stable on gingerbread.
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I think I'm gonna try the simply honey one or wait till he does a final release?, as for the bootloaders, what do I do or go to there? Also for the kernels, do I need to download one for simply honey? Should I download one for it?
I seen some roms or kernel can improve wifi and signal? Is that true, if so point me in that direction hahaha...
Thanks so much bro by the way.
search for Vibrant gingerbread bootloader, it's flashable via odin..simply honey roms comes with bullet kernel & there's Simply Honey Talon Kernel build by simone201 =)
Thanks man, do you mind if I ask which one you would recommend (Odin or Clockwork?)... I stumbled upon this youtube how to called "Custom ROM installation tutorial for the T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant)", and was just wondering if I can apply all his methods to SH 5.0? Sorry tried to link it but cannot due to my post count... Oh and when I'm done, how should I proceed with the new talon kernel?
Also if there's a new release of honey or the final release, say I installed this one... Do I have to do it all over again? Same wit kernels? Finally, do I need to revert my unrooted stock 2.2 froyo back to a previous version before gingerbread or any of this?
Thanks for your reply. I'm actually feeling like it's almost go time with this rom and kernel haha. Really thanks heaps!
D bootloader is only flashable by odin..you can read the OP for simply honey, what you need is all in there in d development area..flash kernel that works 4ur phone u decide on that wether bullet or talon..you can use sgs kernel flasher to switch bet the two..
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Djhemz07 said:
D bootloader is only flashable by odin..you can read the OP for simply honey, what you need is all in there in d development area..flash kernel that works 4ur phone u decide on that wether bullet or talon..you can use sgs kernel flasher to switch bet the two..
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One last question before I do this, I seen SH 5.1, but I seen it was for the i9000? Which one should be used? or the one you may recommend? Im looking for voodoo sound controls.
Thanks
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Nevermind I read it will be up tomorrow... gonna do 5.1, this is pretty exciting as long as I don't screw anything up hahaha
i reverted back to stock firmware via odin and one click rooted my phone, factory wiped all data and now I remember after I rooted my phone I had unzipped file in my sd card and it told me that i can just delete it after I was done, well i did and then watched a video on clockwork that said not to delete it?
EDIT: Nevermind I fixed it, I just unrooted and rooted again...
So sorry for being a pain, I know you guys have better things to do.
3 questions and this thread is done... thanks for the help...
1. Does the market work on simply honey? Like can go in and search and download it like usual?
2. should I use odin to install 5.1 or cw?
3. how does the kb5 work? is that like default or do i have to flash it?
Thanks a million in advance!
So, after reading through all of the Noob threads and such, I'm lost. There seems to be contradictory information, I'm not sure which phone mine even is (kidding, I know its a SGH-i777) or how to get anything started.
I just came from an ATT Motorola Atrix 2, and I was fairly familiar with that. I had it rooted and running a custom ROM. It seems to me however, that there is a LOT more going on for this phone than the A2.
There's things I don't understand. I know about ClockWorkMod backups, installing .zip's, restoring from backups, rooting (using Super1Click) on my A2.
What is/are ODIN? Modems?
How many of the ROMs are actually ICS?
and is CM9 a nightly or a daily (currently) ?
And I sincerely apologize. I am fully expecting and knowlegdgeable about the 'search bar', FAQs, etc that are going to come my way.
If anyone has a few simple answers, that would be greatly appreciated.
I'll lend a hand.
Well, firstly, I hope you know that the only way to get CWM on our phone is to install a custom kernel (can't update CWM on it's own either, the only way to change what version of CWM you have is to install an updated or different custom kernel).
Odin is a PC program built by Samsung for flashing proprietary roms. We've just adapted its use for flashing custom roms too, though only for flashing stock rooted ROMs without bootloaders (usually includes kernels). Heimdall is the equivalent program that also runs on Mac/Linux.
Modems are CWM-flashable zips that change the baseband, deals with signal strength and cellular data speeds (does not affect wifi speeds).
Most of the first page of the Original Android Development section are custom ICS roms: ShoStock2, Phone Bricker, CM, AOKP, Foxhound, etc just to name a few. I have no idea if CM is daily, I don't use it.
The links in the sticky by Red5 at the top of this (and every I777) forum will get you started, especially creepyncrawly's guide.
Hit thanks please! And good luck
EDIT: I felt compelled to add this. I don't know how flashing works on an Atrix, but for I777 NEVER FLASH THE BOOTLOADERS (unless you absolutely have to in order to get back to stock, and you know full well what you're doing). That's the one way to risk hardbricking your new phone.
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and is CM9 a nightly or a daily (currently) ?
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hehe, got a kick outta this question. What would be the difference? the time of release?
Nightly's are just an automatically compiled ROM. Normally one a day.
There is no CM9 stable for our device yet......and anyways AOKP is better
karate has covered pretty well.
To add to his response to your question about ICS ROM.
Chris made this great thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532368
About CM9 nightly, AFAIK, they compile/build/ and upload during night time (to 2am or 4am). That's why it gets that name.
And basically all of this could have been found using the almighty Google. But you already have your answer from some if the nicer people on the forum.
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I still run a stock ice cream, I'm officially going to root it and put a custom fw on it. It would be a miracle at this point if they updated it.
What is the closest to the s3 rom? I'm guessing its shostock3? I really want a stock rom, with all the samsung apps. I know people ask all the time what the best rom is etc etc, but is my assumption correct here? i777 here.
my only fear is that shostock will be worse on battery life than an official one, but at the same time, that could be a false notion with me.
Thank you for any input.
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I still run a stock ice cream, I'm officially going to root it and put a custom fw on it. It would be a miracle at this point if they updated it.
What is the closest to the s3 rom? I'm guessing its shostock3? I really want a stock rom, with all the samsung apps. I know people ask all the time what the best rom is etc etc, but is my assumption correct here? i777 here.
my only fear is that shostock will be worse on battery life than an official one, but at the same time, that could be a false notion with me.
Thank you for any input.
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With any custom ROM you should get better battery life as opposed to the stock ICS ROM, as there are kernel bugs that drains battery at a faster than normal pace.
There is also an issue with the stock kernel that can permanently brick your phone (do NOT perform a factory reset or wipe of any sort unless/until you have replaced that kernel!!)
SHOstock3 can get awesome battery life.
so is shostock3 the only rom that gives me jelly bean + touchwiz 5 ? and the samsung apps ? I saw the music player is the same as the s3 etc??
Thank you
justanother1020 said:
so is shostock3 the only rom that gives me jelly bean + touchwiz 5 ? and the samsung apps ? I saw the music player is the same as the s3 etc??
Thank you
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Look in the development section for others but shostock3 is one of the most solid ones. Flash it and try it for yourself.
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so is there any other rom that give you a more stock s3 experience other than shostock?
Thank you
justanother1020 said:
so is there any other rom that give you a more stock s3 experience other than shostock?
Thank you
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Here's my suggestion: make a nandroid backup, flash SHOstock3 and see whether you like it or not.
I installed Fromaroot and rooted the phone. I'm trying to get CWM on there now.
I was trying to do it without odin and without using a computer much. Did I mess up the process doing the fromaroot, it did succeed. All I have now is the android recovery(which i'm guessing isn't much help?).
I'm trying to install shostock, but it looks like i already need a kernel that has CWM already on the phone before I install that? I don't want stuff that is already iterated to me repeated, and have the thread locked.
But can I use mobile odin pro to install a kernel with CWM? or should I really be using the computer right now to do all of this?
Thank you
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I installed Fromaroot and rooted the phone. I'm trying to get CWM on there now.
I was trying to do it without odin and without using a computer much. Did I mess up the process doing the fromaroot, it did succeed. All I have now is the android recovery(which i'm guessing isn't much help?).
I'm trying to install shostock, but it looks like i already need a kernel that has CWM already on the phone before I install that? I don't want stuff that is already iterated to me repeated, and have the thread locked.
But can I use mobile odin pro to install a kernel with CWM? or should I really be using the computer right now to do all of this?
Thank you
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Assuming the root process worked correctly, then you *can* use Mobile Odin (pro or lite) to install a custom kernel containing ClockworkMod Recovery. For more detailed information, please see the guides linked in my signature.
even though it says I already need a kernel that has CWM to install shostock on the official page?
sorta came off as most people will have already been flashed etc.
the last thing i want to do is brick my phone on the first attempt. Also what kernel should I flash, there is so much outdated info out there. I dont see anyone on here mention fromaroot but it worked perfectly, maybe it's a bit of a newer tool.
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even though it says I already need a kernel that has CWM to install shostock on the official page?
sorta came off as most people will have already been flashed etc.
the last thing i want to do is brick my phone on the first attempt. Also what kernel should I flash, there is so much outdated info out there. I dont see anyone on here mention fromaroot but it worked perfectly, maybe it's a bit of a newer tool.
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Read the 1st link from creepyncrawly's signature to get started.
Simple rule to follow. Look what version of Android your phone is running now, and then read the related posts for flashing kernel, ROM, CWM, etc. That's how I did it. This phone is almost 2 years old and of course outdated info is floating around.
For me, it took less than an hour to root/flash the phone, but days to read through all related posts.
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even though it says I already need a kernel that has CWM to install shostock on the official page?
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
You started out with stock 4.0.3 (or 4.0.4.) Your stock kernel contains stock 3e recovery, which you can not use to flash custom firmware. So, to put custom firmware on the phone, you need to first flash a kernel containing CWM Recovery. (There is no stand alone recovery on this phone. The recovery is built right into the kernel.) You can do that by several methods. Using Mobile Odin is the quickest and easiest. It's almost fool proof.
And yes, the phone is starting to show it's age, and the guides are getting a little out dated. But the information is still good. What is important is understanding the process. You (and everyone) should understand exactly what you are doing before you modify your phone. Once you understand the process, you are much less likely to make a paper weight.
For a custom kernel, use one of the ones linked in the OP of the thread for 4.0.4 ICS, UCLL6 plus root which is also linked in my signature.
sorta came off as most people will have already been flashed etc.
the last thing i want to do is brick my phone on the first attempt. Also what kernel should I flash, there is so much outdated info out there. I dont see anyone on here mention fromaroot but it worked perfectly, maybe it's a bit of a newer tool.
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Just to recap, to go from stock to custom firmware
1. root
2. install a custom kernel containing CWM recovery. It should be a recovery that works with your current system.
3. use CWM recovery to flash the firmware of your choice.
4. profit
Thanks guys,
I've actually flashed a few phones for my friends, read up and 20 mins later i was off an on.
This was a bit more of a trouble for me though. Tons of ways to do it, many versions of this phone, half the time i would be reading and be like, damn this is not for the i777 can't take any chances.
i'm going to put that kernel on there , and then flash shostock3 , seems to be the closest thing to an s3 like experience on this phone.
I was / still am, heavily worried about battery life, something keeps telling me this is like going to cut my battery in half, i blame the experience on the t mobile g1, where i put all these roms on my friends phone and it just sucked away the battery.
Hopefully shostock3 does a good job though! ICS just isn't cutting it anymore
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...I was / still am, heavily worried about battery life, something keeps telling me this is like going to cut my battery in half, i blame the experience on the t mobile g1, where i put all these roms on my friends phone and it just sucked away the battery.
Hopefully shostock3 does a good job though! ICS just isn't cutting it anymore
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Not to worry! See attachment.
Admittedly, this was very light usage. But it gives you an idea what is possible.
Oh, and this is the stock battery that came with the phone in Oct. 2011. No telling how many charge cycles on it. At least 4-500.
got shostock3 on it, runs beautifully
battery life so far is just as good or even better than stock, lots of bloatware gone.
Thank you to everyone.
Fromaroot > 4.0.4 custom kernel (mobile odin) > shostock did the trick, couldn't be easier, if you ever really motivated and didn't mind waiting a bit, i guess you could do that whole process with just the phone.
only thing i used the computer for was transferring files.
and now 4 days later the official one comes out!
Everyone lost hope, even me!
I'm tempted to try it out, but at the same time, i'm quite happy with shostock3
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I'm tempted to try it out, but at the same time, i'm quite happy with shostock3
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mr-cook has a modified stock version. It's stock system plus root and busybox, and the jebo kernel. So if you wanted to try it out, you could make a nandroid backup of SHOstock3, try out the cooked rom, and if you don't like it, go back real easy.
Stock s3 experience
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so is there any other rom that give you a more stock s3 experience other than shostock?
Thank you
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Try the Alliance Rom, it has the Samsung app store and you register with Samsung when you first boot up.
I recently picked up a GP 4.2. I immediately got it rooted so now I'm running a 2.3.6 stock rom with root. What's the next step in terms of getting a recovery installed and maybe moving up to an ICS or JB rom? I've kind of poked around a bit but it's some what confusing with all the other types of GPs in the same area. Does anybody have a recovery and rom they'd recommend? Is using rom manager to push CWM feasible?
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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you should flash CWM via odin first and then flash the ROM via CWM
Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
MetaMav said:
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
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Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
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Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
Xenphor said:
Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
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From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
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Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
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Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
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Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
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In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
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In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
Xenphor said:
Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
Sent from my YP-GI1 using Tapatalk 2
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Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
Sent from my YP-GI1 using Tapatalk 2
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Where could I find a stock kernel?
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Where could I find a stock kernel?
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US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
Sent from my YP-GI1 using Tapatalk 2
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US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
Sent from my YP-GI1 using Tapatalk 2
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Ok thank you. However, will this work with YP-GS1?
But about kernels, on the webpage where I downloaded the stock rooted rom http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166 it says specifically that the Wifi module in system and kernel must MATCH. This is what I'm talking about in regards to kernel compatibility with roms. How do I know if a kernel I'm downloading will have changes applied to it that will work with another rom like with this stock rom/kernel?
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Well I had to flash this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198234 to get CWM on mine. I haven't actually flashed anything with CWM because there doesn't seem to be any good roms for the 3.6 unless CM7 comes out sometime. I used Odin to flash a stock rom from here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166
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Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
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I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
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ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
Xenphor said:
ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
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Xen-it seems GPlayer development is still fairly newish. the work you see from devs now are all ground work. For the 4.2 and 3.6, they seem a little less dev populated than the 4 and 5. People will build upon the work of early devs and eventually get kernels that can OC and maybe ICS and JB roms. At this stage, we likely won't see anything like ZOMG earth shattering until people spend time with the devices. Seems Serk is on his way to doing the best he can for 4.2 but I am not sure who is tackling 3.6
It's weird how roms for devices go. I learned this when I had a tbolt and shockingly saw a FUNCTIONAL JB rom for my old Eris while the tbolt was still hanging back in ginger land with not even a really good ICS rom let alone JB. I asked the Tbolt community-why? How is it the dinosaur Eris has JB and not us? It all depends on what the devs can do with the sources provided. Sometimes certain hardware points are sticky. you can have beautiful JB rom for a device that can't talk to the camera if the hardware source isn't made available (reference the HP TP for many years)
For now, flash what you're comfortable with and and learn what you do and don't like. Also learn if you want to play things safe and not experiment or take on potentially beta builds. For the tbolt, tackling an ICS rom was too dicey so I never did. On my new Rezound, I eat up JB roms as they are in much better shape