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I just recently got my Atrix 4G, I'm new to Android. I've done a lot of research relative to custom roms, rooting, kernals. I know how to root, Im sketchy about roms and kernals. I just wanna make my phone ATT stock free. It makes it slow, and I know this device can do so much more. But I just wanna know what I should do. I don't know whether to do these roms:
1: [ics] cm9 by photon dev team. 1/16/12
2: Official cm7 for Atrix Stable Only
3:[rom] cm7-ics-mod2 [11/01/12]
4: [P-rom] Gingerblur v. 4.5
Kernals: by faux123
Gingerbread enhanced stock kernal
Cyanogen 7 enhanced stock kernal
I do not want to hard brick my new phone.
I would like to know what ROM is the best, I like the gingerblur stability but i like the ICS theme. But Cyanogen is well known for great ROM. Just a mess. What kernal would I use for these specific roms? What do you prefer?
first install android-sdk -your pc type
onto your pc include /tools and platform-tools as far as kernals some roms dont like some kernals soo for example of you download and install darkside it has fauxs 1.0 kernal soo dont change it to some strange china built stick with fauxs and you cant go wrong
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So prior to installing the software, what does that necessarily do? Relative to ROMS and Kernal files. I know I need ROM manager and Titanium backup apps with root for backup reasons and stuff.
First of all you will have to unlock the bootloader to install a recovery manager.
The noob guide will help you a lot. You need to first unlock your bootloader before you do any flashing.
Once that is done a recovery like Clockworkmod Recovery needs to be flashed, I'm pretty sure you can just do this through Rom Manager.
At this point, your options are expanded greatly. For most roms and kernels, you just need to download the rom, and drag and drop it into your internal sd card. After that you can go into recovery via Rom Manager. Once there, wipe your factory settings, cache, and dalvik cache (in advanced). Once this is done, do apply zip from sd card then choose from internal card then navigate to the rom you downloaded. Just make sure you want to do this because it will wipe everything from your phone except what is on your sd cards.
You don't need to mess around with the zip files at all when you download them. Just take the file you downloaded and get it to your sd card. The recovery will do the rest. Same goes with kernels. Just make sure that you have the right one for what rom you're on and flash it in recovery when after you are done setting up your new rom.
As far as roms go it just depends what you want. Right now its the motoblur or cm7 and just read what rom has the features you want the most.
Hopefully this helps a little, this is a basic idea of what you have to do. Flashing roms is not as hard as you think. Just be careful unlocking the bootloader. Anything else just ask away.
Well, first of all, since all the posts above have told you how to install roms and such, I won't go through that. I will say that you really don't have to download a new kernel, as most roms come with one that works just fine with them.
As far as which rom to go with, it depends on what you want.
If you want webtop and fingerprint scanner, and most the little blur apps that come with the stock phone with more mods and features go with wet dream, its a pretty nice rom
If all you want is webtop and fingerprint scanner and dont care about blur, go with a deblurred rom, I have used darkside and alien roms and they are both great, but I would say darkside has the most extra features. Aura also falls in this category.
If you want the fingerprint scanner then you can choose CM7 Weekly #4, or Neutrino Rom, which is based off of CM7 W#4, however both have some issues with wifi/bluetooth that you might want to read the forums about before flashing, and also Neutrino requires much more additional flashing for extra features, which is a good and a bad thing, good because you don't have to get any features you don't want and bad because you spend more time downloading and flashing zips.
If you don't care about webtop/fingerprint scanner/blur apps, and just want speed and stability then CM7 Ba2tf is the way to go, its completely stable and very fast as long as you follow install instructions.
As far as the CM9 roms, those aren't meant for noobs, they are in alpha testing and development so they are potentially unstable, so its best to wait for stable releases, or at the very least betas
The rom I am using now is Neutrino, and I am enjoying it alot, but you just have to go through the roms and find out about what they feature and don't feature, and of course there are plenty of other roms in the forum that I am completely ignorant about such as MIUI, so just look around and see what you like
ps when you do use someones rom, be sure to at least hit the "thanks" button at the bottom of their post. They put a lot of time and effort in it and it's always nice to get a thanks
Anthony04x said:
So prior to installing the software, what does that necessarily do? Relative to ROMS and Kernal files. I know I need ROM manager and Titanium backup apps with root for backup reasons and stuff.
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android-sdk will allow you to use fast boot and adb and allow phone to communicate to the pc in the event it messes up and you will need fastboot and adb shell to root and unlock the bootloader
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thewarhawk said:
Well, first of all, since all the posts above have told you how to install roms and such, I won't go through that. I will say that you really don't have to download a new kernel, as most roms come with one that works just fine with them.
As far as which rom to go with, it depends on what you want.
If you want webtop and fingerprint scanner, and most the little blur apps that come with the stock phone with more mods and features go with wet dream, its a pretty nice rom
If all you want is webtop and fingerprint scanner and dont care about blur, go with a deblurred rom, I have used darkside and alien roms and they are both great, but I would say darkside has the most extra features. Aura also falls in this category.
If you want the fingerprint scanner then you can choose CM7 Weekly #4, or Neutrino Rom, which is based off of CM7 W#4, however both have some issues with wifi/bluetooth that you might want to read the forums about before flashing, and also Neutrino requires much more additional flashing for extra features, which is a good and a bad thing, good because you don't have to get any features you don't want and bad because you spend more time downloading and flashing zips.
If you don't care about webtop/fingerprint scanner/blur apps, and just want speed and stability then CM7 Ba2tf is the way to go, its completely stable and very fast as long as you follow install instructions.
As far as the CM9 roms, those aren't meant for noobs, they are in alpha testing and development so they are potentially unstable, so its best to wait for stable releases, or at the very least betas
The rom I am using now is Neutrino, and I am enjoying it alot, but you just have to go through the roms and find out about what they feature and don't feature, and of course there are plenty of other roms in the forum that I am completely ignorant about such as MIUI, so just look around and see what you like
ps when you do use someones rom, be sure to at least hit the "thanks" button at the bottom of their post. They put a lot of time and effort in it and it's always nice to get a thanks
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As to what you said and the guy above you, do i HAVE to unlock the bootloader? Im always gonna be on ATT. Can I just root, install the needed apps and install CM7?
Anthony04x said:
As to what you said and the guy above you, do i HAVE to unlock the bootloader? Im always gonna be on ATT. Can I just root, install the needed apps and install CM7?
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Well I believe you're confused, which is understandable.. What you're talking about is unlocking the phone by buying a code to put in so you can use any carriers sim card, you don't need to do that
to unlock the bootloader you just follow the steps in the noob guide for unlocking, that will allow you to install a custom recovery, which, yes, is required for flashing any custom roms
Yes you have to unlock the bootloader, install clockwork mod recovery and then a custom rom. there is some work here, it is all documented in the development section of this forum. As for a rom, I am currently on cm9, however for stability I would suggest cm7 by Turl and team Atrix.
unlocking your bootloader IS different than unlocking the phone to other carriers its 2 differnt things and yes
before a custom rom can be installed the bootloader has to be unlocked
(takes 5 min)
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Thank you to everyone who helped with my situation. I'm currently running jokersax cm9 special build w/ faux123 cm9 1ghz kernal and I absolutely love it.
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I have experience with rooting HTC devices and the HP touchpad, but i am a complete samsung noob. Things seem to work completely different with recovery on the this phone. I managed to get cwm recovery on the phone by flashing the entropy kernal (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289460); however, it also says this is for gingerbread non-aosp roms only. Does that mean the CWM will not flash an ICS rom such as ICScrewed?
I am just generally confused cause on my other devices, kernals were always flashed using CMW, not the other way around. If someone can clear this up that would be amazing. I tried searching and looking in the stickies but i still can't find the info im looking for. thanks.
ICScrewed is not an ICS rom, its just themed that way.
We do not have working ICS yet, check the sticky.
You can flash one but audio will not work.
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ICScrewed is not an ICS rom, its just themed that way.
We do not have working ICS yet, check the sticky.
You can flash one but audio will not work.
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o ok, thanks. thats clears that part up thanks. I'm doing this for a friend but it turned out to be much more hassle than i was expecting. So any rom suggestions? I don't like the idea of pretending to have ICS much. I'm looking for a rom that's debloated, faster, more battery life, and has some visual polish. I'm not a huge fan of the stock touchwiz look.
UnNamed and ShoStock have a few themes and are by far the most stable I know of.
Or you can check i9100 roms and port them over or grab one that already is ported.
Read the Sticky thread thats in the General Section.
I couldn't find an answer on the threads. I rooted my at&t last night w entropy512s one click kernel and root. Well I'm new to the phone tech so it took me a while. I now cannot use any of the market Hotspot apps to run my tablet off my s2 wifi. I could before the root and from what I was told it should be easier to do this after rooting. Am I missing something? Is there a special way I have to do it now? I'm so confused.
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I'm not familiar with those applications. I don't know any reason they would not work. And it's not clear from your post what exactly the problem is. You mean you can't install them, or that they do not produce a wifi signal even though installed?
Anyway, almost all custom roms include portable wi-fi hotspot, as well as usb tethering and sometimes bluetooth tethering. Since you have rooted, why don't you go ahead and pick a custom rom and put that on. Problem solved.
There is a good guide linked in my signature.
Yeah, once you have a custom rom, just use the built-in tethering. Works great for tablets.
Yea I can install them, I've tried a few of them and none put out a wifi signal. I don't know what rom I should flash yet. Since I did the entropy512s one click root+ kernel I understand that the kernel is gingerbread, does that mean I need a gingerbread rom? I was hoping for the latest, greatest build. Any guidance is GREATLY appreciated as it took me hour just to root. Lol
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nednerbish said:
Yea I can install them, I've tried a few of them and none put out a wifi signal. I don't know what rom I should flash yet. Since I did the entropy512s one click root+ kernel I understand that the kernel is gingerbread, does that mean I need a gingerbread rom? I was hoping for the latest, greatest build. Any guidance is GREATLY appreciated as it took me hour just to root. Lol
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Since you used Entropy512's package to root, you have a stock kernel. In order to install custom firmware, you need to first install a custom kernel that contains ClockworkMod Recovery onto your phone. That kernel must be Gingerbread. However, once you have the kernel and CWM installed, you can then flash any firmware you choose, Gingerbread, ICS or JB.
The guide which is the first link in my signature contains all the info you need.
Fantastic. Thank you so much for your time. I will try first chance I can.
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I will give you two pieces of advice:
1: Follow the instructions given to you by Creepy (and any instructions in the OP of ROMS) to the T.
2: Read then read some more. When you're done with that, read it all over again. Afterwards, follow step 2 again. This goes for searching about any issue you may come across.
Have fun, this device is really amazing once you figure out more about it
Clay
Team Pirate
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I thank you. I will. I'm so confused about this stuff but it seems the more I read I am really UNDERSTANDING what it means. But it takes about 10 read throughs.
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Ok I was told to get entropys dd kernel since it had cwm with it. I guess thats the next step correct?
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Use creepy's guide Ned! You need to figure out what your next step is.
Im on the mobile tapatalk (on vacation), So i cant use my computer to reaserch the xda site easily. Im trying to learn as much as possibe before i get home and actually do it.
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Good plan. When you get the cwm kernel, do a nandroid backup then pick any rom you like... (cm10 nightly just came out, if you like jellybean)
AOKP by Task650 is another JB alternative.
Which is better you ask? Gonna have to try them both! They both offer stability and great user experience for most who try them. Maybe you're a GB or an ICS kinda guy though!
Clay
Team Pirate
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It really doesn't matter much which kernel you choose for the next step, because it's only on your phone for a short time. Assuming you rooted with the Gingerbread stock plus root package, then you need a custom Gingerbread kernel which has ClockworkMod Recovery. I believe the links in my guide for the kernels are still working links.
The root I did said it was root + kernel. I take it the one with the entropy512 one click root+ kernel doesnt include the cwm. Im sorry im jist trying to understand the whole process not just do it. Alot of what i read doesnt click. Loke when I rooted it took me 6+ hours because I didnt know you want to save the file not open it when downldng it. also I read the deleting the tethermanager2.apk will open wifi/tether. True?
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Forget i asked. I re read your comment. Ok its a stock kernel. So it wouldnt. I understand. A stock kernel probably would make it easier to return to stock. right?
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nednerbish said:
Forget i asked. I re read your comment. Ok its a stock kernel. So it wouldnt. I understand. A stock kernel probably would make it easier to return to stock. right?
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Essentially, yes, but if you're going for custom ROMs, that's not what you want. There are easy ways of getting back to stock if all else fails.
You gotta know what you want first, before you move forward. I know you want tethering to work, and people here have recommended moving to a custom ROM because tethering does not seem to work for you on rooted, stock ROM and stock kernel. So do you want a custom ROM instead (you'll lose some of your current data via that route)? Or do you not care about ROMs and you just want wifi tethering to work now that you're rooted?
Assuming you want just the latter of the two options, I would recommend that you first try a custom kernel (this is different from a custom ROM, but note most custom ROMs include a custom kernel upon install). You mentioned Entropy's Daily Driver Gingerbread kernel, which is a great one. I'd recommend installing it and seeing if that fixes your wifi tethering problem. To install, use Mobile Odin lite version; you can find that apk in Creepy's guide. Download and save the zip from Entropy's DD thread, then extract the zImage file from it (make sure to use the name "zImage", no file extension, important) and move that to your phone via USB mounting. After that, in Mobile Odin lite navigate to the zImage file and flash it; viola, you now have Entropy's custom Gingerbread kernel and stock GB ROM. All custom kernels include ClockworkMod (no other way to get it), so you have that too.
If the custom kernel alone does not fix your wifi tethering problem, then maybe it's time to move to a custom ROM. With CWM, you can flash anything (ROMs, kernels, what have you) much more easily, but we'll get to that after you get the kernel, which is part of the process anyway.
These instructions are all repeated in paragraph 3a of Creepy's guide, and more information is written there, so I would recommend reading it thoroughly so you do understand. I know it's frustrating at first, but you'll get it, and you seem like the type to eventually get it right and understand what you're doing.
THANK YOU!!! I will try that tonight. That was very helpful info. So I CAN do this right from phone the? I saw there were some Apps that can do stuff like that but wasn't sure if they worked. I think I saw one linked to the superuser app. Ill keep you updated
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I also want a new rom also. I'm just trying to get there. LOL
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[Chinese accent] Have patience, Grasshopper.
I still run a stock ice cream, I'm officially going to root it and put a custom fw on it. It would be a miracle at this point if they updated it.
What is the closest to the s3 rom? I'm guessing its shostock3? I really want a stock rom, with all the samsung apps. I know people ask all the time what the best rom is etc etc, but is my assumption correct here? i777 here.
my only fear is that shostock will be worse on battery life than an official one, but at the same time, that could be a false notion with me.
Thank you for any input.
justanother1020 said:
I still run a stock ice cream, I'm officially going to root it and put a custom fw on it. It would be a miracle at this point if they updated it.
What is the closest to the s3 rom? I'm guessing its shostock3? I really want a stock rom, with all the samsung apps. I know people ask all the time what the best rom is etc etc, but is my assumption correct here? i777 here.
my only fear is that shostock will be worse on battery life than an official one, but at the same time, that could be a false notion with me.
Thank you for any input.
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With any custom ROM you should get better battery life as opposed to the stock ICS ROM, as there are kernel bugs that drains battery at a faster than normal pace.
There is also an issue with the stock kernel that can permanently brick your phone (do NOT perform a factory reset or wipe of any sort unless/until you have replaced that kernel!!)
SHOstock3 can get awesome battery life.
so is shostock3 the only rom that gives me jelly bean + touchwiz 5 ? and the samsung apps ? I saw the music player is the same as the s3 etc??
Thank you
justanother1020 said:
so is shostock3 the only rom that gives me jelly bean + touchwiz 5 ? and the samsung apps ? I saw the music player is the same as the s3 etc??
Thank you
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Look in the development section for others but shostock3 is one of the most solid ones. Flash it and try it for yourself.
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so is there any other rom that give you a more stock s3 experience other than shostock?
Thank you
justanother1020 said:
so is there any other rom that give you a more stock s3 experience other than shostock?
Thank you
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Here's my suggestion: make a nandroid backup, flash SHOstock3 and see whether you like it or not.
I installed Fromaroot and rooted the phone. I'm trying to get CWM on there now.
I was trying to do it without odin and without using a computer much. Did I mess up the process doing the fromaroot, it did succeed. All I have now is the android recovery(which i'm guessing isn't much help?).
I'm trying to install shostock, but it looks like i already need a kernel that has CWM already on the phone before I install that? I don't want stuff that is already iterated to me repeated, and have the thread locked.
But can I use mobile odin pro to install a kernel with CWM? or should I really be using the computer right now to do all of this?
Thank you
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I installed Fromaroot and rooted the phone. I'm trying to get CWM on there now.
I was trying to do it without odin and without using a computer much. Did I mess up the process doing the fromaroot, it did succeed. All I have now is the android recovery(which i'm guessing isn't much help?).
I'm trying to install shostock, but it looks like i already need a kernel that has CWM already on the phone before I install that? I don't want stuff that is already iterated to me repeated, and have the thread locked.
But can I use mobile odin pro to install a kernel with CWM? or should I really be using the computer right now to do all of this?
Thank you
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Assuming the root process worked correctly, then you *can* use Mobile Odin (pro or lite) to install a custom kernel containing ClockworkMod Recovery. For more detailed information, please see the guides linked in my signature.
even though it says I already need a kernel that has CWM to install shostock on the official page?
sorta came off as most people will have already been flashed etc.
the last thing i want to do is brick my phone on the first attempt. Also what kernel should I flash, there is so much outdated info out there. I dont see anyone on here mention fromaroot but it worked perfectly, maybe it's a bit of a newer tool.
justanother1020 said:
even though it says I already need a kernel that has CWM to install shostock on the official page?
sorta came off as most people will have already been flashed etc.
the last thing i want to do is brick my phone on the first attempt. Also what kernel should I flash, there is so much outdated info out there. I dont see anyone on here mention fromaroot but it worked perfectly, maybe it's a bit of a newer tool.
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Read the 1st link from creepyncrawly's signature to get started.
Simple rule to follow. Look what version of Android your phone is running now, and then read the related posts for flashing kernel, ROM, CWM, etc. That's how I did it. This phone is almost 2 years old and of course outdated info is floating around.
For me, it took less than an hour to root/flash the phone, but days to read through all related posts.
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even though it says I already need a kernel that has CWM to install shostock on the official page?
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
You started out with stock 4.0.3 (or 4.0.4.) Your stock kernel contains stock 3e recovery, which you can not use to flash custom firmware. So, to put custom firmware on the phone, you need to first flash a kernel containing CWM Recovery. (There is no stand alone recovery on this phone. The recovery is built right into the kernel.) You can do that by several methods. Using Mobile Odin is the quickest and easiest. It's almost fool proof.
And yes, the phone is starting to show it's age, and the guides are getting a little out dated. But the information is still good. What is important is understanding the process. You (and everyone) should understand exactly what you are doing before you modify your phone. Once you understand the process, you are much less likely to make a paper weight.
For a custom kernel, use one of the ones linked in the OP of the thread for 4.0.4 ICS, UCLL6 plus root which is also linked in my signature.
sorta came off as most people will have already been flashed etc.
the last thing i want to do is brick my phone on the first attempt. Also what kernel should I flash, there is so much outdated info out there. I dont see anyone on here mention fromaroot but it worked perfectly, maybe it's a bit of a newer tool.
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Just to recap, to go from stock to custom firmware
1. root
2. install a custom kernel containing CWM recovery. It should be a recovery that works with your current system.
3. use CWM recovery to flash the firmware of your choice.
4. profit
Thanks guys,
I've actually flashed a few phones for my friends, read up and 20 mins later i was off an on.
This was a bit more of a trouble for me though. Tons of ways to do it, many versions of this phone, half the time i would be reading and be like, damn this is not for the i777 can't take any chances.
i'm going to put that kernel on there , and then flash shostock3 , seems to be the closest thing to an s3 like experience on this phone.
I was / still am, heavily worried about battery life, something keeps telling me this is like going to cut my battery in half, i blame the experience on the t mobile g1, where i put all these roms on my friends phone and it just sucked away the battery.
Hopefully shostock3 does a good job though! ICS just isn't cutting it anymore
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...I was / still am, heavily worried about battery life, something keeps telling me this is like going to cut my battery in half, i blame the experience on the t mobile g1, where i put all these roms on my friends phone and it just sucked away the battery.
Hopefully shostock3 does a good job though! ICS just isn't cutting it anymore
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Not to worry! See attachment.
Admittedly, this was very light usage. But it gives you an idea what is possible.
Oh, and this is the stock battery that came with the phone in Oct. 2011. No telling how many charge cycles on it. At least 4-500.
got shostock3 on it, runs beautifully
battery life so far is just as good or even better than stock, lots of bloatware gone.
Thank you to everyone.
Fromaroot > 4.0.4 custom kernel (mobile odin) > shostock did the trick, couldn't be easier, if you ever really motivated and didn't mind waiting a bit, i guess you could do that whole process with just the phone.
only thing i used the computer for was transferring files.
and now 4 days later the official one comes out!
Everyone lost hope, even me!
I'm tempted to try it out, but at the same time, i'm quite happy with shostock3
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I'm tempted to try it out, but at the same time, i'm quite happy with shostock3
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mr-cook has a modified stock version. It's stock system plus root and busybox, and the jebo kernel. So if you wanted to try it out, you could make a nandroid backup of SHOstock3, try out the cooked rom, and if you don't like it, go back real easy.
Stock s3 experience
justanother1020 said:
so is there any other rom that give you a more stock s3 experience other than shostock?
Thank you
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Try the Alliance Rom, it has the Samsung app store and you register with Samsung when you first boot up.
I recently picked up a GP 4.2. I immediately got it rooted so now I'm running a 2.3.6 stock rom with root. What's the next step in terms of getting a recovery installed and maybe moving up to an ICS or JB rom? I've kind of poked around a bit but it's some what confusing with all the other types of GPs in the same area. Does anybody have a recovery and rom they'd recommend? Is using rom manager to push CWM feasible?
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
MetaMav said:
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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Thank you for the info Meta. I'm somewhere around the mid-high mid level with flashing and rooting but slogging through trying to find the right info for a GP 4.2 was getting a bit hectic. I think part of it was the way some people abbreviate the model compared to others. I just wanted to make sure I didn't brick the device.
I got it mainly for a perm, in-car music and GPS/navigation provider instead of always looking to my phone to do it. One thing I noticed about the rom, it mentions installing it via CWM. If I don't have CWM yet, can this rom get pushed by odin or do I have to get CWM first and then flash the rom?
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you should flash CWM via odin first and then flash the ROM via CWM
Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
MetaMav said:
I would recommend the ChaOS ROM/Kernel which includes CWM. It is one of the few available ROMs for this device right now but offers a lot of great features. You can also install an S3 or Jelly Bean theme with the ChaOS ROM. Here's the link to the ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279806. I do not believe using ROM manager to push CWM is feasible on this device. Also, CM7 will most likely make it on to this device very soon. I would recommend watching for that in the near future. I know it can be a hassle trying to weed through the Galaxy Player forums to find 4.2 information but it's all we've got. Hope this helps and welcome to the SGP 4.2 community!
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Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
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Would the instructions here be the right thing to do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MbHDbjph8A
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Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
Xenphor said:
Do you know if CM will come to the 3.6 as well? And from what I understand, to get CWM on the 3.6 you have to flash a custom kernel?
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From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
MetaMav said:
Yes. Those instructions are correct. However, you do not need to run the adb dev tool like the person does in the beginning of video in order to boot into download mode. You can just hold the power, home, and down-volume button to boot the phone into download mode before using Odin. Zaclimon's CWM kernel can be found here (along with the wifi fix): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198444 and installed with the instructions in the youtube video.
From what I have read I know that SerkTheTurk is currently compiling CM for the 4.2. I would imagine either him or some other 3.6 dev will take up the task of CM for your device. And, the answer to your second question is yes, you do have to flash a custom kernel similar to how the 4.2 requires a custom kernel.
Hope that helps.
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Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
Xenphor said:
Ok thanks. I also have a question regarding flashing kernels. In the linux world (and other os world), randomly changing your kernel is a big no no that would lead to major compatibility issues. I don't understand how people can mix and match kernels, roms, firmware, bootloaders, recoveries and everything else? There won't be conflicts?
Regarding the kernel available for the 3.6: what do I do if I encounter stability issues with it and, say, the upcoming CM7? I wouldn't be able to go back to my original kernel because I didn't have CWM to back it up in the first place. Won't I be stuck with a potentially faulty kernel?
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In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
NapalmDawn said:
In changing kernels in the android world, you have mixed results. There are times a kernel can cause some issues but for the most part (we're talking like 98%), if an XDA dev posts a kernel and lets you know you can use it, you can trust it. These devs no matter the device spend painstaking hours ironing things out. Also, many of them have a select group of people testing the kernel for faults and issues. In a very active community, if a well known dev posts a kernel, you can trust it. HOWEVER...no matter what we think or believe or what we're told, every device is a unique and beautiful snowflake. Back up back up back up BACK UP BACK UP BACK UP your stuff. If you want to be super ULTRA safe, take the back up and download it to your PC or somewhere safe.
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Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
Xenphor said:
Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
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SerkTheTurk said:
Just flash the cwm kernel because its basically the stock kernel but with cwm, and it shouldnt brick but if it does you can flash the stock kernel back again
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Where could I find a stock kernel?
Xenphor said:
Where could I find a stock kernel?
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US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
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SerkTheTurk said:
US version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885374
International: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884071
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Ok thank you. However, will this work with YP-GS1?
But about kernels, on the webpage where I downloaded the stock rooted rom http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166 it says specifically that the Wifi module in system and kernel must MATCH. This is what I'm talking about in regards to kernel compatibility with roms. How do I know if a kernel I'm downloading will have changes applied to it that will work with another rom like with this stock rom/kernel?
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
NapalmDawn said:
Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Well I had to flash this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198234 to get CWM on mine. I haven't actually flashed anything with CWM because there doesn't seem to be any good roms for the 3.6 unless CM7 comes out sometime. I used Odin to flash a stock rom from here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=166
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Well in order-I used odin to flash CWM. Once it rebooted, I saw the Galaxy SII boot anim. Used Rom Manager to have it boot to CWM. From there I flashed wifi fix, the rom and then the mod pack. My build number is gingerbread-ueld3. From what I can tell, I think I'm all done. At first I was like hrmmmmm. Doesn't look much different. When I hit the toggle bar though, I could tell it had changed. The process was all very simple after I got headed in the right direction with CWM. That was my only confusing start point for this.
Edit-my bad. The rom didn't take on the first flash. I could tell by the build number. Reflashing the rom and the s3 addons. Hrmmm. Might be boot looping. It's going through the comet and coming up to the white samsung, vibrates a few times after a bit and goes back to the comet with no sound.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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Poop. I think I bootloped the sucker. I can use Odin to reflash the stock, rooted rom just like I did when I got it first rooted right? Do we have another rom for the 4.2 I could try flashing? Not sure why it has bootlooped. I even went back into CWM, did a factory reset, flashed only the rom (no addons) and same thing. Possible bad download? It is flashing from the internal SD as my CWM is not seeing my external SD.
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I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
Xenphor said:
Well that's my dilemma because in order to backup my kernel I first need to flash the custom kernel to get CWM. What do I do?
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SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
MetaMav said:
I have been meaning to post this on the dev thread for awhile. I thought this problem might only be for certain people but I think it applies to US and maybe non-EU devices. I believe that the ChaOS ROM will bootloop on US (YP-GI1/XAA) devices if you do not install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279450) for whatever reason. I spent days trying to install his ROM and bootlooping.
The way I successfully installed (if I remember correctly):
-Do a factory reset of rooted stock ROM
-Boot to CWM (meaning you have already flashed the custom kernel) and install ChaOS's Enhanced Stock (put all install files on internal SD)
-Boot to CWM, wipe davlick cache under "advanced", wipe cache partition, and install the ChaOS ROM
-Wait a little while and your device should boot up properly
I hope this works for you. If it doesn't let me know and I can help you further. If this does work for you too then I will post this on the ROM's thread for other users.
SerkTheTurk said it very well, you do not need to worry, but if you also want to do a backup before you install the custom kernel you could use the adb tools on the computer to backup the device. I'm sure you could learn how to do that with a quick Google search.
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ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
Xenphor said:
ell there's not really much point in backing up the kernel when I've already downloaded it on my computer.
I've since flashed KingOS rom and don't really notice any differences at besides a few color changes... what's all the hype about?
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Xen-it seems GPlayer development is still fairly newish. the work you see from devs now are all ground work. For the 4.2 and 3.6, they seem a little less dev populated than the 4 and 5. People will build upon the work of early devs and eventually get kernels that can OC and maybe ICS and JB roms. At this stage, we likely won't see anything like ZOMG earth shattering until people spend time with the devices. Seems Serk is on his way to doing the best he can for 4.2 but I am not sure who is tackling 3.6
It's weird how roms for devices go. I learned this when I had a tbolt and shockingly saw a FUNCTIONAL JB rom for my old Eris while the tbolt was still hanging back in ginger land with not even a really good ICS rom let alone JB. I asked the Tbolt community-why? How is it the dinosaur Eris has JB and not us? It all depends on what the devs can do with the sources provided. Sometimes certain hardware points are sticky. you can have beautiful JB rom for a device that can't talk to the camera if the hardware source isn't made available (reference the HP TP for many years)
For now, flash what you're comfortable with and and learn what you do and don't like. Also learn if you want to play things safe and not experiment or take on potentially beta builds. For the tbolt, tackling an ICS rom was too dicey so I never did. On my new Rezound, I eat up JB roms as they are in much better shape