Guys which is better???? Anybody tried out both on GSM RAZR?
They're pretty different. Like, different purposes. Smart actions is more about controlling things on-off.
Juice defender is more.. Fluid. It can add more intervals and similar things. I use both in conjunction for a fuller coverage.
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i prefer juice defender ultimate for saving battery as it has much for functions dedicated for you to do so
I don't use any. I just let Android do out as the other apps will mess up your phone with how Android handles memory allocation.
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yup i too dont use any apps because ICS has smarter garbage management system
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I don't use any. I just let Android do out as the other apps will mess up your phone with how Android handles memory allocation.
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Juice Defender has nothing to do with memory, it triggers data connection, wifi, brightness, background data, 3g/2g.
I think JD is much better then then Smart Actions.
I've found with juice defender and ics battery is rubbish. Take it off and reboot and its fine
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lukas77 said:
Juice Defender has nothing to do with memory, it triggers data connection, wifi, brightness, background data, 3g/2g.
I think JD is much better then then Smart Actions.
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Same functions as smart actions then
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Smart Actions has improved my battery life dramatically... I never have had much luck with Juice Defender. I just have it stop background sync when screen off. Saves a lot of battery....
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Smart Actions has improved my battery life dramatically... I never have had much luck with Juice Defender. I just have it stop background sync when screen off. Saves a lot of battery....
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...but JD can turn on background data every 5 15 30 (of your choice) and check your emails, talk, fb messages when screen is off. SA don't turn on background data when you have screen off for example 3 hours.
Correct me if I wrong.
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...but JD can turn on background data every 5 15 30 (of your choice) and check your emails, talk, fb messages when screen is off. SA don't turn on background data when you have screen off for example 3 hours.
Correct me if I wrong.
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True but that does improve battery life... Lol... I may give JD another shot....
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dkghos said:
Guys which is better???? Anybody tried out both on GSM RAZR?
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Juice Defender is more difficult to handle in my opinion, but is more powerful if you spend time to configure it.
I actually tried juice defender and it messed up my phone. Smartaction is the way to go
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Same juice defender is awful. Really messed my phone up. I'm sticking with smart actions or just leaving it alone. I wouldn't use anything but it helps slow things down when it gets over worked.. My phone used to get hot and have a ton of processes going at once. Now it stays cool and runs smooth with it killing background sync when display is off...
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Isn't that high? What are people getting?
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android os 47% on mine,much more than my og Droid or zoom ever had! Anyone have a solution for this?
Try freezing smart actions if you don't use it.
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Try freezing smart actions if you don't use it.
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Froze, lets see if it has an effect
How did that work for you? Do you have alot of apps installed that use background data all the time? If so, you can increase the time between syncs. That should help you as well.
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didnt do much as of yet. Don't have many aps installed yet and have a ton frozen with titanium.
Anyone have any other ideas if why Android OS would be consuming close to 50% of battery?
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Try freezing smart actions if you don't use it.
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so with TI, freeze both Smart Actions 1.0 and Smart Profile 1.1.100?
I was under the impression the android OS generally uses that much, but normally we are used to seeing the screen outweigh everything. Since the screen in the razr uses less juice perhaps we are noticing other things draining.
My words with friends was the top user yesterday for 8 hours of use with 40% left
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Isn't that high? What are people getting?
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the same for me..30% usally..now 24% maybe it will improve freezing some apps..
I've had quite a few android phones and the only time android os has been so high is if something on a rom was acting up and usually a reflash and wipe helped. I'm at 60% battery after 4:20 and 33% is the os with 20 minutes of CPU usage. I am not using smart actions.
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How do you freeze apps?
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I just checked on mine & I have android os @ 18%. Mine shows screen as top user. I have nothing frozen & am still mostly stock with only the golf game uninstalled.
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Er. . what golf game?
I didn't get any games on mine at all
EDIT: oh and I am at 40% with screen using 25% and OS 16%
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Er. . what golf game?
I didn't get any games on mine at all
EDIT: oh and I am at 40% with screen using 25% and OS 16%
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It's the Verizon Droid Razr, so it came with some bloatware, one of which is Let's Play Golf 2.
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28% by OS today. However I added juice defender todtay along with my work smart action and big improvement.
Yesterday after 12 hours I had 30% left. Today after 15 hours I had 40%. This is normal usage. Few pics, tapatalk, setting up, surfing and a few phone calls with some texting.
Pretty happy with that.
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I'm at 15 hours on battery. 2 hours of display on. 40% battery remaining. My Android OS taking up 35% of battery use. 28% display use
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28% by OS today. However I added juice defender todtay along with my work smart action and big improvement.
Yesterday after 12 hours I had 30% left. Today after 15 hours I had 40%. This is normal usage. Few pics, tapatalk, setting up, surfing and a few phone calls with some texting.
Pretty happy with that.
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What do you u have smart actions for work setup as?
Yea same here, big usage on Android OS.. 18% with 30minutes of CPU usage.. I'm at 15 hours, 15% battery left, but this is my first charge.. heard around that it gets better after a few days.. still happy with the 15 hours, however, i would wonder why the Android OS takes so much..
Just chiming in. Same thing here, high Android OS usage. I've had 2 other Android phones (Evo 4G and 3D on Sprint) and the screen was typically the dominant power user.
How do I see awake/sleep time on the RAZR? I can't seem to find it.
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Just chiming in. Same thing here, high Android OS usage. I've had 2 other Android phones (Evo 4G and 3D on Sprint) and the screen was typically the dominant power user.
How do I see awake/sleep time on the RAZR? I can't seem to find it.
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Battery info graph kinda shows it at the bottom. CPU spy from the market works well & it's free.
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I did battery calibrations with two different apps, i even let the battery died from 100% this is my 3rd exchange Idk what do at this point, it seems like I'm not getting battery life like other droid maxx users, i looked under settings and battery and the screen is always 78% or higher any help is appreciated. I can't get any screen shots to upload here is a link to one from my Box account 'Screenshot_2012-04-20-05-29-22.png' has been shared with you through Box Check out this file on Box: https://www.box.com/shared/ba3e674bdc8203fffecc
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Okay got one posted
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And one more
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Get a MAXX. ICS leak on mine lasts longer than a day.
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I'm sorry what do you mean, this is a RAZR Maxx
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Tryin doin a factory restore. Dont install any apps
Try that for two days...bet one of ur apps is causing the problem
Do u have netflix installed??
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I have just the regular Razr and my battery life is significantly less than Gingerbread. When I check the settings it says that the major usage is screen, even though I have it down to 18% brightness level. As an official release is months off I kind of expected bugs to be worked out, but hopefully someone figures this out before then.
Nila
What is your screen on time and how long is your phone awake. Maybe an app is forcing your phone to awake instead of letting it idle/sleep even though the screen is off. Check the other graph with the bars on the bottom.
No I don't have Netflix install, i even set in developer options back round processes to only 1, i did a titanium back up restore for my apps
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Yes same here my screen is set to 18%
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It's set to 1 minute
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There's a wakelock keeping your phone from sleeping. I believe its in the android os grouped apps, probably means it bloatware.
Here's a bit more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Wakelocks
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It's set to 1 minute
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No wonder look at all that extra crap you have running.
False alarm folks..
I sort of made a fool of myself here but the info maybe helpful to you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592584
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Right now the battery is at 70%. It's been on for 4.5 hours and only a few phone calls made really. Screen accounts for 35% and Voice calls 20%, Android OS 19%. There's a separate Android System that is 3%. Time on shows 26m42s. I'll keep an eye on the time on and see if it looks right to me later.
I got the same battery life on ics I get on gbread. 5 hrs screen on on 3g. Use battery indicator. Its free in the market and there is a checkbox that shows 1% increments. If you can't get 4+ hours screen on time something is running away and you should do a factory reset. Start over.
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Right now the battery is at 70%. It's been on for 4.5 hours and only a few phone calls made really. Screen accounts for 35% and Voice calls 20%, Android OS 19%. There's a separate Android System that is 3%. Time on shows 26m42s. I'll keep an eye on the time on and see if it looks right to me later.
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The reason i think its a wakelock is because of your screen shot, if your android os time on keeps pace with your phones time on, its most likely going to be an app in your /system/app folder keeping your phone from sleeping. I had the same problem, I found for me it was the Verizon backup apps I had initially set up then decided Verizon were evil bastards and removed my account, set my phone to stop syncing in settings, but the apps still held a wake lock and network connection that started at boot.
One thing i cant stress enough is to exit your apps with the back button, not the home button, the home button is for multi tasking between apps and keeps apps fully running in the back ground, that will help a little with all the apps eating small percentages that add up
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I got 3 hours and some change yesterday on my original RAZR. I dont think the battery stats are reading correctly because my phone lasted for a long time at 5%
Check the last link i posted, read the whole thread, it may help.
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Qualcomm released an app for anyone with Snapdragon that will extend your battery life and monitor what you do to better control the processes. I just downloaded it and it is in "Learning mode" so I will be excited to see how much savings I get when it has learned and starts saving.
http://androidcommunity.com/qualcom...uru-aims-to-boost-your-battery-life-20130528/
Installed and also in learning mode. Hopefully this helps even more! Thanks for the info.
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I have been using it for a while in beta, I can't say it's really helped, but the Wi-Fi control is nice.
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Hmm im gonna try it out.
IDK if it does anything. I've had it for a while now and I use it along with 2x Battery. I get 14-16hours out of my DNA for what it's worth or roughly 3 hours screen time.
I'm pretty sure if u got notification toggles and turn on/off WiFi and data connections manually you'll get the same results if not better
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I didn't like it myself. It kept screwing around with screen brightness. I like my on auto brightness., I think it kept putting it on low. And it kept turning on my wifi and searching for connections. Just my 2 cents.
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I didn't like it, it kept turning on my wifi when I didn't want it on and I don't think it did anything for my battery at all.
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I've been using it for a month and definitely helps. You can go to settings and turn the wifi control off so the app will have no control of it.
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Well, I feel it does its job well. The point is to be efficient as possible depending in usage. No matter what, it isn't gonna give you hours of extra on screen time. I feel its main purpose is to manage the battery better when ur NOT using ur phone. So far, I haven't used my phone much other then to read some texts, emails and xda and this is what my battery looks like right now.
Best day Ive had was a 21 hour day with moderate usage (YouTube, texting, emails, minor gaming). That was after letting batteryguru was out of learning mode.
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Downloaded yesterday and I'm still in learning mode.
I turned off WiFi control as I toggle it on/off as I need it throughout the day, so I feel this would be a little redundant.
I like the concept of the app and hoping it helps out; once I'm finally out of learning mode that is.
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Downloaded yesterday and I'm still in learning mode.
I turned off WiFi control as I toggle it on/off as I need it throughout the day, so I feel this would be a little redundant.
I like the concept of the app and hoping it helps out; once I'm finally out of learning mode that is.
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Last day without Battery Guru I had 7% remaining after 15 hours and 53 minutes. First day post-learning mode, I had 13% remaining after 15 hours and 49 minutes with 3 hours and 3 minutes of screen on time. Sadly, I didn't have the correct app to determine how much screen on time I had on the first measurement, but I use my phone about the same way every day.
My biggest complaint with Battery Guru is it forces WiFi on when I'm on the road. I'm not seeing a big enough improvement to get excited about and think that me just toggling WiFi on my own will be just as effective.
On a side note, my daughters phone had 3 hours of screen on time and her phone lasted only 11 hours. She has the Droid Razr HD which comes with a 2530 mAh battery whereas the DNA only has 2020 mAh. Quite impressive for the DNA especially considering the larger, true HD screen and quad core processor.
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Last day without Battery Guru I had 7% remaining after 15 hours and 53 minutes. First day post-learning mode, I had 13% remaining after 15 hours and 49 minutes with 3 hours and 3 minutes of screen on time. Sadly, I didn't have the correct app to determine how much screen on time I had on the first measurement, but I use my phone about the same way every day.
My biggest complaint with Battery Guru is it forces WiFi on when I'm on the road. I'm not seeing a big enough improvement to get excited about and think that me just toggling WiFi on my own will be just as effective.
On a side note, my daughters phone had 3 hours of screen on time and her phone lasted only 11 hours. She has the Droid Razr HD which comes with a 2530 mAh battery whereas the DNA only has 2020 mAh. Quite impressive for the DNA especially considering the larger, true HD screen and quad core processor.
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You can turn off Wi-Fi management by going into the app's settings. Learning mode came off for me yesterday and my God has it made a difference. You know I forgot to charge again lol.
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Will I have to restart learning mode if I flash a new ROM?
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You can turn off Wi-Fi management by going into the app's settings. Learning mode came off for me yesterday and my God has it made a difference. You know I forgot to charge again lol.
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That has me hopeful! Mine has about 9 hours left.
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Will I have to restart learning mode if I flash a new ROM?
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Simple answer...yes, you will need to download the app again and it will go through a learning period.
Perhaps I'm blind but in the usage statistics I don't see screen on time. I know its gotta be there.
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Perhaps I'm blind but in the usage statistics I don't see screen on time. I know its gotta be there.
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Yea I don't see it either.
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This app really helps my battery life. I'm still on learning mode too
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This app really helps my battery life. I'm still on learning mode too
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It doesn't start saving battery until after the learning phase I'm pretty sure. Might just be the placebo effect.
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For anyone who may use this program can you answer a quick question for me? Can I control what apps are allowed to use data? For example I have a game like Dice with Buddies. I can not turn off or control when it looks for updates/new games. I'd like it to only search when I open the app. Could juice defender allow me to stop that without disabling the app? Maybe stick it on a 8 hour timer or something like that? Just wondering
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...1hdGVqdWljZSJd
Thanks.
With juice defender you'll be able to control synching times and add apps to a whitelist.
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imho its not needed on the one ... with powersaver its more than enough to get 18+ hours easy
Juice defender does you no favors. Use tasker and greenify to squeeze that juice.
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For battery saving just use juice defender and greenify..
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I didn't have any luck with juice defender personally. Greenify was amazing. Once it's set up, it's zero maintenance
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I didn't really notice any difference with Juice Defender.
I use both Snapdragon Battery Guru and Greenify. With these 2 apps I get 20 hours most of the time with around 20% left when I get home. My CPU is underclocked slightly but my GPU is overclocked for gaming.
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Lately I've been noticing my battery life isn't doing as it good as it used to be. Nothing troubling, but enough to make me want to look into getting a battery saver.
I've tried Juice defender but it won't ask for SU permissions for reasons unknown, therefore it doesn't work because the app log shows up tons of errors without permissions.
I have looked up on Google for other battery savors but most sites say Juice defender. What else can you guys recommend? Or maybe help me with juice defender? Thanks guys in advance!
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Use greenify
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I use greenify too. Also the ktweaker app within the ktoonsez kernel has some pretty good battery saving abilities. Specifically project Icarus profile does pretty well on my phone.
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So many to choose from
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Lately I've been noticing my battery life isn't doing as it good as it used to be. Nothing troubling, but enough to make me want to look into getting a battery saver.
I've tried Juice defender but it won't ask for SU permissions for reasons unknown, therefore it doesn't work because the app log shows up tons of errors without permissions.
I have looked up on Google for other battery savors but most sites say Juice defender. What else can you guys recommend? Or maybe help me with juice defender? Thanks guys in advance!
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I've used JD and it worked, but in all honesty 2x Battery by AZSoft works better than that. Get the Pro version so you can enable night mode and all of the features. I've tried GreenPower too. That one works, but I found that it disabled stuff too well and I wasn't getting notifications when I wanted to. I have 2x set up to sync every hour during the day and 2 hours at night. I'm also using CPU Tuner and Greenify. I'm not a power user, but I do use my phone and end up using about 3-4% per hour.