hey guys,
why would people flash a custom kernel over a stock kernel?
like SiyahKernel S3 v1.5.1. i see that alot of people use this kernel, but why? what does it give? why shloud i use it?
thank you.
Because it tweaks CPU & GPU voltage by undervolting or overclocking CPU clock ,the STOCK kernel can't do those options that why people use custom kernel like siyah on their S3's.
nhariamine said:
Because it tweaks CPU & GPU voltage by undervolting or overclocking CPU clock ,the STOCK kernel can't do those options that why people use custom kernel like siyah on their S3's.
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and that has effect on battery life? will tweaking the CPU voltage give me more speed?
if i install siyah kernel it automatically speed my device? because i dont want to touch anything that might cause problems.
amit3211 said:
and that has effect on battery life? will tweaking the CPU voltage give me more speed?
if i install siyah kernel it automatically speed my device? because i dont want to touch anything that might cause problems.
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You need to read each kernels description and decide for yourself . No other way but try .
More speed = less battery = Epstein's 3rd law .
jje
custom kernel normally being enhanced and develop by well known developer so that we can have the best performance of our beloved smartphone.. normally it will be pre root so by flashing custom kernel is easier way to root our phone
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You need to read each kernels description and decide for yourself . No other way but try .
More speed = less battery = Epstein's 3rd law .
jje
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Not always true... I would use my Captivate with a stock battery at a stable 1.8GHz and a sorta unstable for daily usage 1.92GHz and could get over my stock battery usage...
With a custom kernel you can also change the governor and add other functionality. Often battery life / speed is improved without over clocking or undervolting by tweaking the way kern works
My suggestion is that you do some more reading into each of the kernels and see what they have to offer. Until then, the stick with stock.
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I use Galaxsih purely because it lets my phone mtp with my mac
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Syiah gives me excelent sound tweaks...
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Syiah gives me excelent sound tweaks...
Wysłane z mojego GT-I9300
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Indeed, eargasm is just amazing for the soundquality.
Siyah kernel improves battery life, and just runs smooth.
You don't need to overclock or undervolt. Just flash it, and adjust what you want, or leave it alone.
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Hello guys
I'd like some help on installing the Undervolt for WB's 4.0.3 ROM
I'm on 4.0.3 stock kernel. All I have to do is flash the Undervolt addon and Ill be good or do I need other apps like CPU Master after flashing it?
I know theres a lot about it in the topic but its all untied and confusing
If someone could take some time to explain to me how it works I'll be really thankful.
dnt have wb rom but in general I believe ud update with the file provided n I believe u would need either set cpu or cpu master to be able to adjust the minimum value to the lowest 1 possible
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So whats the difference between having just cpu master and setting it to the minimun and doing the same with the UV?
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Hi,
for undervolting you do not need an additional app.
Ralf
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Hi,
for undervolting you do not need an additional app.
Ralf
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I want to understand the difference between just setting the CPU speed with an app like CPU master and setting it with undervolt flashed
Could someone please explain?
i flashed the stock kernel first but there was no option to 128mhz also i believe uv works without app...you can also flash the custom kernel and choose the least frQ as i did. i also have enlightment but don't know is that from overclocking to 1113mhz or from the minimum 128mhz or from the undervolt itself??
romasalah said:
i flashed the stock kernel first but there was no option to 128mhz also i believe uv works without app...you can also flash the custom kernel and choose the least frQ as i did. i also have enlightment but don't know is that from overclocking to 1113mhz or from the minimum 128mhz or from the undervolt itself??
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I think overclock/underclock is different from undervolt, no?
Hi,
underclock = reduce frequency = gain life
overclock = increase frequency = loose life = gain speed
undervoltage = reduce voltage for certain frequencies = gain life
With good settings for undervoltage and underclocking you can gain a lot of extra batterie life.
Ralf
Kat-CeDe said:
Hi,
underclock = reduce frequency = gain life
overclock = increase frequency = loose life = gain speed
undervoltage = reduce voltage for certain frequencies = gain life
With good settings for undervoltage and underclocking you can gain a lot of extra batterie life.
Ralf
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nicely said.. I totally got the end of the wrong boat there! lol
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Under and overclocking changes the speed at which the cpu works.
Less speed means it doesnt work as hard so saves battery.
More speed means it works harder so needs more power so reduces battery life.
At the different speeds the cpu works at it uses different voltages from the battery, less speed needs less voltage, as the speed increases it pulls more volts from the battery.
The voltages it uses are controlled by the kernel.
The undervolt module changes the default voltages each speed uses so in effect a higher cpu speed can work at a lower voltage so it improves performance at no cost to the battery life.
However, if the new voltages are too low the cpu doesnt have enough power to run so you WLOD.
The UV module (and custom kernels) have been tested on loads of devices and generally are stable, however, reading the threads suggest that some phones are still vulnerable to the occasional WLOD using these modules...
Just try and see what is stable for you...
Just remember
Always backup in case you f*** up!!!
but what causes the enlightment??!!! over or under clock?
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but what causes the enlightment??!!! over or under clock?
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Sir, i think you missunderstood the point of the topic.
The enlightenment which im talking about is learning the beyond the basics of undervolting you device and not a function of the addon
10assaye said:
Under and overclocking changes the speed at which the cpu works.
Less speed means it doesnt work as hard so saves battery.
More speed means it works harder so needs more power so reduces battery life.
At the different speeds the cpu works at it uses different voltages from the battery, less speed needs less voltage, as the speed increases it pulls more volts from the battery.
The voltages it uses are controlled by the kernel.
The undervolt module changes the default voltages each speed uses so in effect a higher cpu speed can work at a lower voltage so it improves performance at no cost to the battery life.
However, if the new voltages are too low the cpu doesnt have enough power to run so you WLOD.
The UV module (and custom kernels) have been tested on loads of devices and generally are stable, however, reading the threads suggest that some phones are still vulnerable to the occasional WLOD using these modules...
Just try and see what is stable for you...
Just remember
Always backup in case you f*** up!!!
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Thanks, that was very helpful!
Just to complement, which cpu speeds (low/high) are the recommended to undervolt the X10 on WB's rom?
GuilhermeXOT said:
Thanks, that was very helpful!
Just to complement, which cpu speeds (low/high) are the recommended to undervolt the X10 on WB's rom?
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It seems to change from phone to phone because the chips inside are not all exactly the same.
They are tested to conform with stock speeds and voltages but can become unstable when changing these.
Some phones (Luckily mine included) can handle 128 - 1113 Mhz with ony a few (Very rare, about 2 a week) WLOD's while other people say their phones WLOD constantly with any change.
The best way is to apply the mod you want and check.
I seem to remember that the UV and the UC/OC modules are not compatble on WB's ROM, you have to choose what you want.
However, I am running freekernel 4.05 which allows me to use UV and then configure which speeds to run via SetCPU.apk.
If you install a kernel there is no need to apply the UV or OC/UC modules..
Read DooMLoRD's custom kernel thread, he has a lot of good info and useful tips on how to test which is best for your phone.
exactly, wolfbreak also mentioned in his thread about the incompatibility of overclock and undervolt with some devices.
unfortunately i'm at the short list of devices that can't handle both, for users like me he gave the option for stock kernel with optional undervolt, which i'm using now with no problems.
Thx for all the info guys! Now ill try the undervolt
I have one more question: everytime that i flash a update on the ROM i need to reflash Undervolt?
Hello everybody, I'm opening the thread just to read opinions from you all about the kernels that are currently available.
The one I've been using is void #echo, which in my humble opinion with the combination of a tweaked deadline scheduler and a lionheart governor provides great performance, battery life and minimum lag whatsoever.
I do understand that it depends on needs which shall be used, however, I would like to know which one to you guys works smoother and provides better performance / battery life.
I always aim for performance over battery life (I didn't buy a SGSII to get poor performance )
In terms of battery life, I can get it up to 22~23 hours on battery, using WCDMA only / HSPA+ during day and enabling airplane mode during night.
Fast Dormancy disabled and deep sleep working correctly (XXKL1).
I don't like the complexity of siyah and to be good on batt you have to tweak it more with UV and thing like that ,wish is not my style to make trying/errors on my brand new 600$phone !
I tried speed mod wish is very great actually with great overall perform
void echo is the one Im trying right now ! since 2 days its feel very strong and good on battery with good performance on games without getting the phone very hot
neak is good but its more a copy/past of the overall coders over wish is good in one sense but its a bit laggy in game with lucrative mod but defenatly one of my favorite kernel out there ! Im waiting for 1.3 to let simone correct some bugs
Siyah is the tweakers' heaven. You can fine tune every last bit of your phone.
I personally love void, it feels very fast and has good battery life.
I tried NEAK for a short time and it seemed fine but quite many report lag in games(using on demand governor seems to fix it though).
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
siyah 2.6.4.
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
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Great feedback bro, I tried Siyah in the past but honestly when I used it I didn't know there were parameters to tweak (didn't check the REF documentation LOL).
Do you get smoother behavior / better performance / higher benchmark scores tweaking the parameters? In quadrant I get around 4604 with void.echo.
as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
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as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
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WoW that sounds nice, if you turn off RAWR what's the score?
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Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
100% agree most of the battery better and greater speed for these kernels is actually unproven and just advertising bumf .
I have used the kernels listed in the topic and in each case stock kernel has benchmarked better using multiple tests .
jje
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void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
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I agree with your opinion, and that's the reason why I use only Sammy Stock ROMs
I've flashed a number of roms and kernels in the past few months since May, best combination for me is usually a near stock rom, plus a stable kernel like Speedmod, they just work without needing any tweaking apart from custom set up that's it.
I don't generally like the number of tweaks in some roms but each to their own.
I find stock fine and fluid and stable enough without much problems.
Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
Best kernel so far for me is hardcore's speedmod.
Fast, first time I broke the 6000 barrier on Antutu benchmark without overclock. And great battery life, one full day + charging only by the end of day two, with normal use.
Normal use for me is making phone calls, surfing web and playing games sometimes, not more than 20min per "session". Turning wifi and 3g off when phone on standby. And switching to airplane mode overnight.
And yes I tried other kernels....
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with. high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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Don't get me wrong, I do prefer all that, I just wanted to know what things are changed in those roms to get that performance.
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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= high CPU usage .
jje
hey people and good day!
im new to s3 just bought it today and im still having the galaxy note in my hand
but itv very big for me
and i feel the changing with smoothness the s3 is incredible smooth
so my question is,should i root it and put custom rom?
because in my notre i change almost every 3 days the rom because the note little bit lag
but here with s3 its looks goddes with everything
so should i do it it will be better with the custom roms or it will make it more lag then the stock??????
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hey people and good day!
im new to s3 just bought it today and im still having the galaxy note in my hand
but itv very big for me
and i feel the changing with smoothness the s3 is incredible smooth
so my question is,should i root it and put custom rom?
because in my notre i change almost every 3 days the rom because the note little bit lag
but here with s3 its looks goddes with everything
so should i do it it will be better with the custom roms or it will make it more lag then the stock??????
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It really depends on the rom and kernel you are using. At the moment I am on Omega 4.2 (going to update to 5.0 now) and SiyahKernel 1.0 over clocked at 1.6GHz. I find the S3 very smooth, more compared to stock. The stock rom is pretty smooth but if you feel that there is a lag you could always install a custom rom and kernel. With the SiyahKernel you can overclock upto 1.8GHz.
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It really depends on the rom and kernel you are using. At the moment I am on Omega 4.2 (going to update to 5.0 now) and SiyahKernel 1.0 over clocked at 1.6GHz. I find the S3 very smooth, more compared to stock. The stock rom is pretty smooth but if you feel that there is a lag you could always install a custom rom and kernel. With the SiyahKernel you can overclock upto 1.8GHz.
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What is even the point of overclocking this phone with the software available now? There is really no need. I've actually used SetCPU to downclock my CPU when battery gets below 40% to save battery, and even more at 20%.. and it still runs fine.You're just wasting battery and shortening the life of your phone.
Stock is smooth as poop, ask yourself if you're happy with smoothness and speed.. Why risk to get weird bugs like camera fc all of the sudden etc?
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Agree you need to read what the custom rom is offering in real terms not hype and decide . bear in mind that every custom rom built claims to be faster smoother saves your battery and will fly you to your destination in first class .Few say hey this rom is slower than stock as i have messed with stuff and cut and pasted a few themes .
jje
PS saying that i am in the process of flashing a stock rom purely to test out my recovery procedures for getting back to a clean stock rom .
I have a question about installing a custom ROM, will it wipe your device after installing the custrom ROM? (I want to install the latest firmware AF2) TIA
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I have a question about installing a custom ROM, will it wipe your device after installing the custrom ROM? (I want to install the latest firmware AF2) TIA
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Nope.
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What is even the point of overclocking this phone with the software available now? There is really no need. I've actually used SetCPU to downclock my CPU when battery gets below 40% to save battery, and even more at 20%.. and it still runs fine.You're just wasting battery and shortening the life of your phone.
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By doing underclock is battery save notic able? Will it harm cpu as it always underclock and then again back to normal?
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By doing underclock is battery save notic able? Will it harm cpu as it always underclock and then again back to normal?
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Nope, underclocking won't harm it, having a massive overclock for most of the phone's life will probably shorten it's lifespan though.
hey guys,
i recently rooted my xperia s and im now on the KA speed 11.1 rom w/ 5.1 sspeed kernel. I just want to find out what you guys think is the optimal setcpu profile settings for a rooted Xperia S. By optimal i mean (extended batt life w/smooth lagless operations and less cpu heat)
thanks in advance!
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hey guys,
i recently rooted my xperia s and im now on the KA speed 11.1 rom w/ 5.1 sspeed kernel. I just want to find out what you guys think is the optimal setcpu profile settings for a rooted Xperia S. By optimal i mean (extended batt life w/smooth lagless operations and less cpu heat)
thanks in advance!
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I overclocked to 1.89 , scaling is ondemand
Smoothness : very , very smooth
Battery life : the same for me
Cpu heat : Only when playing mc3 for 2 hours
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And use AnTuTu cpu master , its more stable :good:
Before you doing something that can make your phone burn it is better for you to search an info about it. And there is a step of doing it not just simply swipe it to maximum clock. That is why the devs always remind us to take our own risk of overclocking. You can read more detail info from this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376870
*Sorry for my english*
Overclocking the maximux cpu frequency doesnt mean heat/battery dies
It only increases the maximum level of what the frequency can reach , so if ur just browsing or watching utube or playing 2d games like angry birds , the fone wont run at the maximum overclocked frequency , so no effect will occur , but if u play a heavy game like modern combat 3 and u have overclocked , the cpu frequency will jump to the maximum and will cause heat after a while and more battery usage
Thats what i think
check my thread in the general section
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no necessary to overclock
hey guys...i bought my SXS with android 2.3.7 ....3months ago....bootloader unlocked...rooted...and really...2x 1,5GHz is totally enough for your device...even Shadow Gun runs perfectly smooth without overclocking.......but if you have installed a custom rom...you will get lags e.t.c ....if so...download chainfire 3d from google market....free ofcharge...install the driver and everything should be ok now.
if you want to overclock....i advice you to use cpu tuner...uses a bit memory...and you may choose how many cpu should run....i prefer to select just one cpu " in settings...use dual cpu.....deactivate" ....and then overclock it...you will get a nice performance and a little more battery life.
hope it helped
Has been using SetCPU for the last one day on rooted stock ROM n it really boosted the phone's performance.. Plus one of the weird thing is dat it actually saving battery.. I ws using juice defender & GO Power at the same time but wasn't quite getting da performance.. But now SUPERB! Attached are the screen shots of my SetCPU profiles.. Try it now lemme know =) ~
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Has been using SetCPU for the last one day on rooted stock ROM n it really boosted the phone's performance.. Plus one of the weird thing is dat it actually saving battery.. I ws using juice defender & GO Power at the same time but wasn't quite getting da performance.. But now SUPERB! Attached are the screen shots of my SetCPU profiles.. Try it now lemme know =) ~
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Which rom and kernel are you using ?
.76TW (Got some issues so its better if u use 75) and i fastbooted stock kernel after DoomKernelv0.4 to root =)
Hi, i have a question about setCPU. Can it on rooted XPS with Stock ICS kernel (build 6.1.A.2.45) control CPU voltage?
Or it's a limited feature available only for custom kernels? I have a locked bootloader so no custom kernels for me
Thanks (don't want to buy it now a regret it)
Gud...
blackie333 said:
Hi, i have a question about setCPU. Can it on rooted XPS with Stock ICS kernel (build 6.1.A.2.45) control CPU voltage?
Or it's a limited feature available only for custom kernels? I have a locked bootloader so no custom kernels for me
Thanks (don't want to buy it now a regret it)
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No voltage control on any stock kernels for any devices. Only custom kernels offer that.
I was looking to flash a new kernel for my poco f1.
I search for a bit and find out that people consider those 2 the best one out there
Can someone explain me which one is better and why?
Sphinx has better performance but runs hotter than Franco this is because Sphinxes clocks are higher.
Franco has lower clocks so you will see minor stutters in games but it is clocked lower than stock. While only francos gpu is overclocked.
Both are stable in all applications no crashing.
it's not overclocked on franco. and it's a bad idea to overclock when it throttles anyway at load. it will make things worse. you could actually get better performance if you underclock...
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Sphinx has better performance but runs hotter than Franco this is because Sphinxes clocks are higher.
Franco has lower clocks so you will see minor stutters in games but it is clocked lower than stock. While only francos gpu is overclocked.
Both are stable in all applications no crashing.
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Do u know which one have better battery life?
LQDForce said:
it's not overclocked on franco. and it's a bad idea to overclock when it throttles anyway at load. it will make things worse. you could actually get better performance if you underclock...
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so in your opinion which one is better for battery life?
I'LL go for franco anytime.. of the day.. both are superb in performance.. but im getting longer battery life with franco.
Franco is a great developer, buy he doenst use f1, just develop for it. Sphynx is an f1 user and his kernel is better polished, i have better battey with it. But there are lots of good kernels here, now im using shadow kernel, it is very good too
kernels don't really matter for battery life. unless using drivers with issues, which isn't a problem on a poco.
if you're using miui, debloat services and processes that constantly report to miui and wake your device.
limit apps push notification and background access. disable sync of non essential services.
personally i don't believe in using battery saving profiles and tweaks like LKT and messing with CPU governers and I/O scheds, but you can experiment with those if you need more battery at the expense of performance.
also try to optimize battery for any service/app you don't need realtime sync for (or don't need it to stay running in background). can also try the google play services gms doze module.
use adblocking browser like Bromite / hosts file to prevent ads from loading will also help battery times.
all of these have far greater effect on battery than kernel level tweaks or differences.
To be honest, the kernels I love are not the two. I actually use Shadow and Twisted Prime. I am currently using Twisted's kernel because, in my use-case, it actually provided me with better performance and overall battery. However, Shadow kernel is also good because you can add tweaks that will make it even better.
After being with franco kernel for quite a while.. im.now.trying the MALAKAS or MLX kernel.. and im telling you bro.. this one's damn smooth and effficient too.. wow. Just wow..
santiagoruel13 said:
I'LL go for franco anytime.. of the day.. both are superb in performance.. but im getting longer battery life with franco.
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Lol are you in dreams ?
Franco is the most power hungry kernel.
Evel the stock is better than it.
Without using any underclocking.
And after underclocking it gets like 2+ minutes in battery life and makes the phone's performance ****
SumanKaka said:
Lol are you in dreams ?
Franco is the most power hungry kernel.
Evel the stock is better than it.
Without using any underclocking.
And after underclocking it gets like 2+ minutes in battery life and makes the phone's performance ****
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What kernel do you recommend that is balanced in terms of battery life and performance?
djdelarosa25 said:
What kernel do you recommend that is balanced in terms of battery life and performance?
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Stock with tweaks
SumanKaka said:
Stock with tweaks
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You're on MIUI, right?
djdelarosa25 said:
You're on MIUI, right?
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Yes
SumanKaka said:
Stock with tweaks
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What kind of tweaks..
Just wanna report that Twisted is the most balanced kernel that I've tried.
Sphinx kernel has a better performance than Franco, but the device will be hotter. If you're in a tropical country, the temperature may stay between 40°C-45°C in Sphinx. Franco saves a lot more battery, also low temperature, but I don't like the performance in games, but it is better than the stock kernel.
Giacoml said:
I was looking to flash a new kernel for my poco f1.
I search for a bit and find out that people consider those 2 the best one out there
Can someone explain me which one is better and why?
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What is this? Some sort of competition? Ask your question in a more appropriate way whether you want better performance or better battery life. Both kernel serves different purpose.
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lucascm08 said:
Franco is a great developer, buy he doenst use f1, just develop for it. Sphynx is an f1 user and his kernel is better polished, i have better battey with it. But there are lots of good kernels here, now im using shadow kernel, it is very good too
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That's quite the opposite. Francisco owns a Poco F1. Infact he was provided the unit by Xiaomi, afaik. On the other hand, Michael doesn't have a Poco F1. He owns a Dipper (Mi8) which share similar hardware and software with Poco F1.