So I am on the fence on this one. Every Android device I have owned has been rooted but not being able to return the device if something should go wrong has me a little skeptical with the View.
Looking at the development section I also don't see anything that would make me jump off stock right now and not sure if that will change in the future.
Anyone else contemplating keeping it stock? I did notice you can always go back to GB from HC and then root but it would require you to use HTC unlocker. My question is, if you use HTC's unlocker can you still achieve S-OFF and load Roms, Radios, and Kernels from CWM or will it be like the EVO 3D fiasco?
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So I am on the fence on this one. Every Android device I have owned has been rooted but not being able to return the device if something should go wrong has me a little skeptical with the View.
Looking at the development section I also don't see anything that would make me jump off stock right now and not sure if that will change in the future.
Anyone else contemplating keeping it stock? I did notice you can always go back to GB from HC and then root but it would require you to use HTC unlocker. My question is, if you use HTC's unlocker can you still achieve S-OFF and load Roms, Radios, and Kernels from CWM or will it be like the EVO 3D fiasco?
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Nevermind please ignore. My post below is about Flyer and OP was asking about View. Not sure what to do about view
Not accurate. You do not need to unlock to get to HC or get back from HC to GB.
1) GB to HC: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358758
2) Back to GB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428104
After following instructions on second link, you are back to GB, but you are S-OFF. To go back to S-ON Follow this guide => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346200
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So I am on the fence on this one. Every Android device I have owned has been rooted but not being able to return the device if something should go wrong has me a little skeptical with the View.
Looking at the development section I also don't see anything that would make me jump off stock right now and not sure if that will change in the future.
Anyone else contemplating keeping it stock? I did notice you can always go back to GB from HC and then root but it would require you to use HTC unlocker. My question is, if you use HTC's unlocker can you still achieve S-OFF and load Roms, Radios, and Kernels from CWM or will it be like the EVO 3D fiasco?
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I went about this in just about the wrong-est way possible by getting the OTA Honeycomb update before doing anything. I used the HC to GB downgrade process described in the dev forum (which requires the HTC unlock as a first step), then got S-OFF using globatron's other thread, both of which worked with little drama.
I've had no trouble flashing ROM's through CWM but haven't tried anything else (is the HC kernel source for the View even available yet?). In short, I have no regrets, but I bought the View to play with so YMMV.
I think the main thing I am looking forward to with this purchase is the rooting and the unlockable bootloader. If I decide to keep it, that will be the first thing I'm doing
I am going to stay Stock. It's a very good device as Stock and there is no need to put on a ROM as far as I am concerned.
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Every Android device I have owned has been rooted but not being able to return the device if something should go wrong has me a little skeptical with the View.
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You shouldn't return the product because you screwed up trying to modify it... this is the reason why locked bootloaders exist!
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You shouldn't return the product because you screwed up trying to modify it... this is the reason why locked bootloaders exist!
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Thanks buddy, I don't need a lesson from you as to why locked bootloaders exist. I have owned over 10 smartphones in my day and have unlocked / rooted all of them with no problems. But you best be sure if I mess something up within my return period it is going back like everyone else here would do including you Mr high almighty.
Also, when Dev's work on an un-root method a lot of times they will brick a device and need to return it for another one. So will you purchase them another device so they can do you a favor and unlock your bootloader for you? I don't think so.
So after doing some research, I am thinking of rooting it but just leaving GB on it. I have seen people complain about some compatibility issues with some apps as well as the on screen buttons taking up to much screen real estate. I don't really see an advantage to going to honeycomb.
Another question, is there a way to re-root the phone back to stock after it is unrooted? If ICS comes to town, I would probably want to grab the official update...
Printerscape said:
You shouldn't return the product because you screwed up trying to modify it... this is the reason why locked bootloaders exist!
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Excuse me if I do not feel bad for the multi billion dollar corps if a couple busted failed modded devices return, which in most cases they fix in seconds are sell refurbished
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Another question, is there a way to re-root the phone back to stock after it is unrooted? If ICS comes to town, I would probably want to grab the official update...
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Why? A rooted version of the official ICS update (if one every happens) would likely show up right after the official OTAs hit the airwaves. If not leaked earlier even.
So I recently purchased an HTC Amaze, and I have a few questions regarding it.
I've seen quite a few topics about free replacement accessories (back cover, USB cable, battery, and etc), and I'm wondering what phone number I'm supposed to contact in order to receive them, since I'm in Canada, so the phone number may be different. Reason as to why I want these, is that my back cover is squeaking on the right side of the phone and having an extra battery would be nice to compensate for the poor battery life.
Something that I've noticed after using my Amaze for a few days, is that it will switch between HSPA and UMTS rapidly at pretty much any point in time. Basically, it switches between them all the time. Information of my phone is basically, I'm on Mobilicity with Stock ICS, unrooted, and S-On. I'm willing to provide any other additional information which would be helpful to fix this issue.
Being somewhat of an audiophile, I like to use the Equalizer app from Smart Android Apps in order to compensate for lack of bass and treble on my headphones. However, I noticed that the app in question has no effect on the music playing. The graph at the top of the app does not show music playing even though it is. I have already disabled all of the sound enhancements in the stock HTC music player, but the Equalizer still does not have an effect on the music playing. I have tried searching in the Amaze forum with no results, so I'm wondering if anyone has any idea as to why the Equalizer app does not work. Again, I am on Mobilicity Stock ICS and unrooted.
EDIT: Apparently, the Equalizer app works with the pre installed Google Play Music, so the issue seems like it is only isolated to the stock HTC music player, which I prefer over Google Play Music.
With the above average camera, I like to take pictures here and there. However, I I occasionally have problems with the camera software, where the camera generates a complete black/blank photo. I usually see this when there is a delay in taking a picture with flash enabled. Sometimes the LEDs will flash as normal, but generate the blank picture, and sometimes the LEDs will lag and stay on, and then generate the black photo. Does this issue happen with anyone else and is there a possible fix?
If anyone is able to help me out with at least one of these issues, or even all of them, I'd appreciate it.
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1. You can get your replacement parts even in Canada, just look on htc's website for the contact number under support for your country
2. The device switching between H and 3G is normal as well, it's basically based on the coverage in your area, I'm using Telus stock so instead of saying 4G all the time, I get the constant switching as well, which I actually prefer knowing exactly what kind of coverage I'm receiving.
3. The equalizer probably wasn't made compatible for stock music apps, you can search around for other equalizers or simply get poweramp which has all you want, equalizer and music player in one
4. The camera issue is probably the cause of a bad update, I had this issue once when I first tried out Telus stock ICS, my device is originally t-mobile, but the bloatware annoys me so I switched to Telus software which is much smoother imo. Anyways, upon reflashing the update, the blank photo issue was gone, but here's another trick you can try since it's basically the camera I've been using, use the modded HQ camera, I've been using that ever since I reflashed, so to be honest I have no clue if the issue was fully fixed with a reflash but I've never had the issue since I've been using the modded HQ camera app.
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1. You can get your replacement parts even in Canada, just look on htc's website for the contact number under support for your country
2. The device switching between H and 3G is normal as well, it's basically based on the coverage in your area, I'm using Telus stock so instead of saying 4G all the time, I get the constant switching as well, which I actually prefer knowing exactly what kind of coverage I'm receiving.
3. The equalizer probably wasn't made compatible for stock music apps, you can search around for other equalizers or simply get poweramp which has all you want, equalizer and music player in one
4. The camera issue is probably the cause of a bad update, I had this issue once when I first tried out Telus stock ICS, my device is originally t-mobile, but the bloatware annoys me so I switched to Telus software which is much smoother imo. Anyways, upon reflashing the update, the blank photo issue was gone, but here's another trick you can try since it's basically the camera I've been using, use the modded HQ camera, I've been using that ever since I reflashed, so to be honest I have no clue if the issue was fully fixed with a reflash but I've never had the issue since I've been using the modded HQ camera app.
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1. The problem with Canada's phone numbers is that they only provide phone numbers for Carriers and Mobilicity doesn't happen to be on the list. Is it possible for you to help me look for a phone number, or is the US number that I've seen floating around suitable for use? (1-888-617-1113)
2. Ah, I see. I asked someone else about this issue as well, and it seems that it uses HSPA during active data use, and UMTS when there is a connection, but no traffic through it. That clears up that problem.
3. The odd thing is that the Equalizer app has worked on the HTC music player on multiple other versions as well on my HTC Panache (Glacier/myTouch 4G) under stock (Sense 2.1), and Sense 3.5 as well. I guess I just need to wait for an update to the app for it to support Sense 3.6 on ICS.
4. Reflashing the ROM isn't an option for me, at least until I root it, which I don't think I need to, as I'm satisfied with Stock. Could you please expand on the topic of the modded HQ Camera? I'm not entirely sure as to go about that.
P.S. Is there anyway to get rid of the screen bleed? I've read suggestions to use Screen Filter to disable the backlight on the keys, however Screen Filter does not work on the Amaze on ICS yet. This isn't terribly bothersome, and I could live with it without a solution, but I just want to see if there are any other ways to disable the backlight on the keys. It's fine if there isn't, I'm not concerned.
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1. The problem with Canada's phone numbers is that they only provide phone numbers for Carriers and Mobilicity doesn't happen to be on the list. Is it possible for you to help me look for a phone number, or is the US number that I've seen floating around suitable for use? (1-888-617-1113)
2. Ah, I see. I asked someone else about this issue as well, and it seems that it uses HSPA during active data use, and UMTS when there is a connection, but no traffic through it. That clears up that problem.
3. The odd thing is that the Equalizer app has worked on the HTC music player on multiple other versions as well on my HTC Panache (Glacier/myTouch 4G) under stock (Sense 2.1), and Sense 3.5 as well. I guess I just need to wait for an update to the app for it to support Sense 3.6 on ICS.
4. Reflashing the ROM isn't an option for me, at least until I root it, which I don't think I need to, as I'm satisfied with Stock. Could you please expand on the topic of the modded HQ Camera? I'm not entirely sure as to go about that.
P.S. Is there anyway to get rid of the screen bleed? I've read suggestions to use Screen Filter to disable the backlight on the keys, however Screen Filter does not work on the Amaze on ICS yet. This isn't terribly bothersome, and I could live with it without a solution, but I just want to see if there are any other ways to disable the backlight on the keys. It's fine if there isn't, I'm not concerned.
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The same US number applies to Canada according to HTC site.
The hq camera mod is modded version of the stock camera uncompressing the images, hence increasing quality and it's a smoother one than the stock by a bit, but since you're not rooted, its not possible for you.
The only light bleed fix for ics is via speed Rom, but that's a custom Rom, you can check the bible thread, think gg had listed another method of fixing it there.
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Dark Nightmare said:
The same US number applies to Canada according to HTC site.
The hq camera mod is modded version of the stock camera uncompressing the images, hence increasing quality and it's a smoother one than the stock by a bit, but since you're not rooted, its not possible for you.
The only light bleed fix for ics is via speed Rom, but that's a custom Rom, you can check the bible thread, think gg had listed another method of fixing it there.
Sent from an Amaaaaaazing place :-D
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1. According to the Canadian site, it isn't, but I'll take your word for it and use the US number.
2. I guess I won't be able to fix the camera without rooting then. I'll see if I can find the time to root my Amaze.
3. Pretty much the same as 2 then. No root, no fix. All right.
Thanks for all your help, Nightmare.
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MidnightXZ said:
1. According to the Canadian site, it isn't, but I'll take your word for it and use the US number.
2. I guess I won't be able to fix the camera without rooting then. I'll see if I can find the time to root my Amaze.
3. Pretty much the same as 2 then. No root, no fix. All right.
Thanks for all your help, Nightmare.
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Rooting only takes a minute by the way.
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Rooting only takes a minute by the way.
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Ah, so that's where the phone number is. I was planning to call the phone number that I found originally but it looks like you found the phone number that's actually supposed to be used. Thanks a lot.
I know rooting only takes a minute, but I only purchased the device a week ago and I plan to keep it. I don't want to risk my warranty with rooting yet. I'll research more on the Amaze's rooting procedure and see if it is able to be reverted without leaving a trace that it had been rooted in the first place.
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Ah, so that's where the phone number is. I was planning to call the phone number that I found originally but it looks like you found the phone number that's actually supposed to be used. Thanks a lot.
I know rooting only takes a minute, but I only purchased the device a week ago and I plan to keep it. I don't want to risk my warranty with rooting yet. I'll research more on the Amaze's rooting procedure and see if it is able to be reverted without leaving a trace that it had been rooted in the first place.
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Unrooting is simple, it's relocking the bootloader with s-on that leaves a trace, but it's all personal preference, don't do anything you won't be comfortable with.
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Unrooting is simple, it's relocking the bootloader with s-on that leaves a trace, but it's all personal preference, don't do anything you won't be comfortable with.
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Relocking the bootloader leaves a trace? I'm pretty well informed on the nature of rooting, I just want to be able to unroot without having it known to the manufacturer or carrier that I rooted in the first place, in case my device requires warranty servicing.
Is S-Off required for rooting, or am I able to root without S-Off, as the nature of the wire trick worries me.
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Relocking the bootloader leaves a trace? I'm pretty well informed on the nature of rooting, I just want to be able to unroot without having it known to the manufacturer or carrier that I rooted in the first place, in case my device requires warranty servicing.
Is S-Off required for rooting, or am I able to root without S-Off, as the nature of the wire trick worries me.
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You can root with s-on, what I meant by it leaves a trace is that with s-on when you lock the bootloader, it says "relocked", while with s-off, when you lock it, it says "locked" and then you can s-on as if you never did either, get the idea? Unlocking is required for root by the way.
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You can root with s-on, what I meant by it leaves a trace is that with s-on when you lock the bootloader, it says "relocked", while with s-off, when you lock it, it says "locked" and then you can s-on as if you never did either, get the idea? Unlocking is required for root by the way.
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So let me get this straight....
1. I can root with S-On.
2. If you relock the bootloader while it is S-On, it will say 'relocked'.
3. If you relock the bootloader while it is S-Off, it will say 'locked'.
Could you rephrase your statements? They are very confusing.
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So let me get this straight....
1. I can root with S-On.
2. If you relock the bootloader while it is S-On, it will say 'relocked'.
3. If you relock the bootloader while it is S-Off, it will say 'locked'.
Could you rephrase your statements? They are very confusing.
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Reboot your device into Hboot mode, as in turn it off, hold volume down button and power it up, see where it says "locked"?
Well when you're s-on, if you lock the bootloader, it won't say "locked" like it is now, instead it's gonna say "relocked".
If you s-off the device on the other hand and you lock the bootloader after unlocking, it will say "locked" exactly how it is right now.
Understand?
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Reboot your device into Hboot mode, as in turn it off, hold volume down button and power it up, see where it says "locked"?
Well when you're s-on, if you lock the bootloader, it won't say "locked" like it is now, instead it's gonna say "relocked".
If you s-off the device on the other hand and you lock the bootloader after unlocking, it will say "locked" exactly how it is right now.
Understand?
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So you're saying if I lock the bootloader, even though it is already locked/S-On, it would say 'relocked'? Locking the bootloader when it is S-Off would make it display 'locked'?
If that's what you're saying, then the new bootloaders on HTC devices are pretty odd, but yes, I understand now.
So is S-Off required for rooting, and is the wire trick doing any permanent damage to the device, where I would not be able to have it fixed if it suddenly broke down?
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So you're saying if I lock the bootloader, even though it is already locked/S-On, it would say 'relocked'? Locking the bootloader when it is S-Off would make it display 'locked'?
If that's what you're saying, then the new bootloaders on HTC devices are pretty odd, but yes, I understand now.
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No no no, that would be your result IF you unlock it, if it's not unlocked now, why would you lock it back?
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No no no, that would be your result IF you unlock it, if it's not unlocked now, why would you lock it back?
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That was what I was wondering, but you stated that "Well when you're s-on, if you lock the bootloader, it won't say "locked" like it is now, instead it's gonna say "relocked"". Saying that if I lock the bootloader while I am S-On, it would say 'relocked'.
Okay, so finally...
1. If it is S-On, it will say 'locked'.
2. If it is S-Off, it will say 'relocked'.
...is the gist of what you're saying, right?
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That was what I was wondering, but you stated that "Well when you're s-on, if you lock the bootloader, it won't say "locked" like it is now, instead it's gonna say "relocked"". Saying that if I lock the bootloader while I am S-On, it would say 'relocked'.
Okay, so finally...
1. If it is S-On, it will say 'locked'.
2. If it is S-Off, it will say 'relocked'.
...is the gist of what you're saying, right?
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Swap the results and you have your answer, this would be if you unlock the bootloader and root the device.
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Swap the results and you have your answer, this would be if you unlock the bootloader and root the device.
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If I unlock the bootloader from S-On to S-Off, it will say locked.
If I relock the bootloader from S-Off to S-On, it will say relocked.
Correct?
MidnightXZ said:
If I unlock the bootloader from S-On to S-Off, it will say locked.
If I relock the bootloader from S-Off to S-On, it will say relocked.
Correct?
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Read the Amaze bible thread, the bootloader and s-on/s-off, are not the same. You're just changing everything I say around to suit yourself and not actually reading it properly, read over the past few post and take in every detail, if you don't understand a term, read the amaze bible thread, there's explanations to every term used daily here in there, if you don't find a term, google it, okay? Great.
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Read the Amaze bible thread, the bootloader and s-on/s-off, are not the same. You're just changing everything I say around to suit yourself and not actually reading it properly, read over the past few post and take in every detail, if you don't understand a term, read the amaze bible thread, there's explanations to every term used daily here in there, if you don't find a term, google it, okay? Great.
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Okay, I think I understand it now. So the Locked/Unlocked/Relocked is a new feature of the HTC bootloader which I haven't seen before in previous HTC devices. Therefore, the cause for my misunderstanding.
So one more try...
With S-On
1. Unlocking the bootloader will display 'Unlocked'.
2. Relocking the bootloader will display 'Relocked'.
With S-Off
1. Unlocking the bootloader will display 'Unlocked'.
2. Relocking the bootloader will display 'Locked' as it originally did.
Is this correct? I'm sorry about my previous failures. I was unaware of the new feature added to the HTC bootloader on the newer devices.
MidnightXZ said:
Okay, I think I understand it now. So the Locked/Unlocked/Relocked is a new feature of the HTC bootloader which I haven't seen before in previous HTC devices. Therefore, the cause for my misunderstanding.
So one more try...
With S-On
1. Unlocking the bootloader will display 'Unlocked'.
2. Relocking the bootloader will display 'Relocked'.
With S-Off
1. Unlocking the bootloader will display 'Unlocked'.
2. Relocking the bootloader will display 'Locked' as it originally did.
Is this correct? I'm sorry about my previous failures. I was unaware of the new feature added to the HTC bootloader on the newer devices.
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Excellent way of putting it, that is correct, you're no longer a n00b, lol.
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