Hi people, let's try an istructive game.
Try to tell each other our experience with the Android world, how we arrived to the point we are and what we can do now. I try to explain better.
What do you have to write:
How much time ago did you arrive to Android?
What did you know then about information technology and programming?
How did you start to learn more? Was it difficult?
At which point are you now? Are you a simple user, a rooted user/superuser, a cooker, a porter, a themer, a modder or... a developer?
What's your position in the Android world for you now? Is it a hobby, a passion or a job?
What do you like most your knowledge about Android? Money, importance in your device section, freedom, or knowledge itself?
What do you still want to learn and know?
If you want, you can give us the links to your ROMs, applications and portings.
Everithing else I forget.
For example, I consider myself a rooted user and a bad porter, and until now I just ported and cooked a ROM. I'm here because an year ago I wanted a tablet. Then a lot of people used to buy an iPad, but casually (neither do I remember why, but I believe it was a good choice) I bought a Galaxy Tab, the old P1000 from Samsung. Then I casually (again) read in a computer magazine something about rooting and ROMs to better Android devices, and then, with a lot of fear, I started to learn something about it. I only knew (and know now) something about Visual Basic, HTML, CSS and PHP, but as developer I've always been terrible. Now I want to learn something about Java and start building my own applications.
I believe with this surveys less experienced people could be helped to know what they have to do to quicken their developing climbing!
For example, I would like to learn something from Chainfire...
I entered the android world on may 2012 with my brand new Sony live with walkman... World could have been no better .. Then someday I ran into rooting tutorials ... Consoling my heart and out of curiosity , I decided to give it a go .. ( I feared about bricking my device because I got it after a lot of innocent request from parents when I passed 10th grade ( March 2012 )
.. And guess what ? I received a Bootloop while flashing my first custom ROM ( CYANOGEN ) ... The fear had turned into a heinous monster which I dreaded the most ...
And now .. I believe I've plenty knowledge of the android but still there is much more to learn ... I can root / flash / ... debug most roms... Program.. ( java/c++ have been a cakewalk for me , no. Flattery)..Yes android has become my passion..... I'm currently working on cooking my own custom ROM... Hmm.... Geek at work ..
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rachit.rc96 said:
I entered the android world on may 2012 with my brand new Sony live with walkman... World could have been no better .. Then someday I ran into rooting tutorials ... Consoling my heart and out of curiosity , I decided to give it a go .. ( I feared about bricking my device because I got it after a lot of innocent request from parents when I passed 10th grade ( March 2012 )
.. And guess what ? I received a Bootloop while flashing my first custom ROM ( CYANOGEN ) ... The fear had turned into a heinous monster which I dreaded the most ...
And now .. I believe I've plenty knowledge of the android but still there is much more to learn ... I can root / flash / ... debug most roms... Program.. ( java/c++ have been a cakewalk for me , no. Flattery)..Yes android has become my passion..... I'm currently working on cooking my own custom ROM... Hmm.... Geek at work ..
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Good job! This was exactly what I wanted! I give you a Thanks as the first person who replied to the topic.
Good luck for your rom!
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I bought my first Android phone 4 months ago... Knew nothing about it... And i know no languages(java, etc)... About 15 days later while searching for some cool app to showoff i read somewhere "for rooted devices only" So i searched about root and then more and more... I got devil inside me awakened and searched for how to do all of it on my phone... and next day i rooted my phone but when restated after flashing cwm recovery i got a boot loop... I was so in danger... Posted for help on all fourms which were about android including xda... Then waited (not even 3hours lol) but no reply so started to mess around and luckily flashed stock rom... Then rooted again but no cwm... after few days i saw an email from xda about a reply on my post... i was so overconfident (in reality knew nothing what xda is) that posted a Warez on xda for which i got an infraction... Then around 2.5 months ago first rom for galaxy ace plus by teamcooper was out and fixed cwm... 2 months ago i saw a guide to make ROM... And now i am only one who cooks roms for galaxy ace plus and is active on this device... i made 3 different rom for galaxy ace plus and currently working on a ics theme and want to learn developing app and more... i don't think i am a developer, i am still a noob... Till i become a recognised cintributer... I Will apply for it when i get rid of infarction...
EDIT: can you tell me about some good guide to make an app... Not those which are too basic like making hello apps... I want to make an app with root permission i have few ideas of apps i want to make...
Officially, I arrived to the Android World in June 2011, but months ago I already knew about Android (several friends have Android devices).
In this moment, I have basic knowledge about C/C++, Java and Lua programming (need help? send me a PM ). For me learn more was relatively easy, since I already knew programming when I purchased my device. The thing was: Apply the knowledge to the Android world.
Actually I'm a rooted user and a development learner. I have few time ( the University...) so I consider myself as an "ocasional developer". Android for me (as other platforms) is more than a hobby, but less than a passion. I can say that I program apps... for me. I'm very glad to see my apps running in my device (and others... xD), but I don't expect earn money for it (very basic apps and widgets, but useful for me... nothing interesting).
I still have much to learn, right now I wish to learn OpenGL, to take full advantage of the hardware acceleration (Braid, Mario, Megaman, Space Invaders? Yeah ).
One of my works, a widget to easily and quickly change between several CPU governors or CPU Frequencies (need root, of course). Looks ugly, but it's very useful for me
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lokeshsaini94 said:
I want to make an app with root permission i have few ideas of apps i want to make...
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What are you trying to do? Get root access is very simple (easy way: Runtime.getRuntime().exec ("su"). If you wish to run more shell commands as root, use RootTools instead)
I've entered android world at the beginning of this year with my Sony Xperia Play (bought it because of game functionalities). And then it started... I was amazed with all, that android can offer. I wanted to be a part of this, so I started to learn java. Right now, I'm at the stage of writing my first apps. This basically takes most of my free time after regular job. Hoping, that my hobby will be growing and maybe will become the way of living.
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guys i worship u all and have learnt all from u so i pls request u to port iOS for hd2
- Cotulla
- Cedesmith
- dcordes
- darkstone
- danij3l
- gauner1986
- hastarin
- Cass67
- Markinus
- LeTama
- mdeejay
- manusfreedom
- ElBartoME
- Kouno.Takaaki
- cyanogen
- michyprima
when you want an ios... buy an iphone
You do realise that what you have just asked for is known to be impossible, right? Even if it wasn't i doubt it would happen because we all (well except for you apparently) have windows mobile based devices because we don't like the iPhone and it's carppy OS. Android was a proof of concept more than anything and tbf i don't think that WP7 will ever make it to any for of usable state thanks to Windows Genuine Phone (or what ever the piracy protection is called).
Actually i am sorta worried i just replied to a bot that managed to register on the forum. That would be embarrasing!
Wrong section, and please no.
Be a man, use Android, not that girly/feminine iOS stuff.
nice ) mom mom I want android, mom mom I want nand , mom mom now I want iOS4 . GTFO I say.
Be a man, use Android, not that girly/feminine iOS stuff.
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kashifsiddique said:
Wrong section, and please no.
Be a man, use Android, not that girly/feminine iOS stuff.
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Wrong! iOS IS for girls but android is mainly aimed at teenagers and non tech savy adults (not just men). Real, proper, IT men use windows mobile and use android as a toy to amuse themselves before they go to bed.
But wnating iOS on a hd2 is just low and the thought makes me want to vomit all over my very expensive Razer keyboard.
C'mon Son....
sp33dy_gtx said:
nice ) mom mom I want android, mom mom I want nand , mom mom now I want iOS4 . GTFO I say.
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WM is for men
Android is for kids
iOS is for girls
good idea
it good to have ios but its not that easy its not opensource...and must recode evereything ...
shardul.sahdev said:
guys i worship u all and have learnt all from u so i pls request u to port iOS for hd2
- Cotulla
- Cedesmith
- dcordes
- darkstone
- danij3l
- gauner1986
- hastarin
- Cass67
- Markinus
- LeTama
- mdeejay
- manusfreedom
- ElBartoME
- Kouno.Takaaki
- cyanogen
- michyprima
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Your wish is granted....ahem...by these devs. Take your pick which one you prefer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861740
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857443
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859841
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853080
M3PH said:
Android was a proof of concept more than anything
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I'm sorry, come again? You may want to check your definition of "proof of concept", cause you're way off here.
sure lets get IOS on the hd2....... while we are at it lets send the titanic to the moon...... na but seriously yes it would be cool to have the platform on the hd2 but we have to think within reason. and in this guys defence, the same can be said about all platforms..... if you want IOS get an iphone.... if you want android get a vibrant..... if you want (gags) a gps phone brick...... get a garmin. but since we want MORE than what comes with these phones (without buying them) we seach xda for the coolest new roms and builds for our devices. so im not shootin the idea down due to ignorance, but i have the old school belief that if you want something done you start learning how to do it your self. help comes over time so for now crack a book open and talk to some iphone devs to learn about the dif types of platforms and how they work. good luck!
Whats up with the OS d*ck measuring??? Lame...
He made a simple request. Supply a simple answer.
Im not an expert, but if people can port android onto an Iphone, and we can port android to a WM phone then we can probably put iOS on a WM phone also.
This may not be the forum to do it tho. Might want to find an iOS forum that is willing to take on the challenge. People do all sorts of things for hobbies. Good luck.
nito2721 said:
Im not an expert, but if people can port android onto an Iphone, and we can port android to a WM phone then we can probably put iOS on a WM phone also. .
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Theres this brilliant thing called OSS (Open Source Software), I suggest you look into it and how it applies to porting OS's before making assumptions.
lay off the guy, if this actually happened you know we'd all download it immediately.
The real reason this can't be done is iOS is proprietary and closed source so a port is not only hard as hell, but Apple would slam a C&D on this site so fast our collective heads would spin.
Oh my God, Ios on hd2, kill him
iOS on HTC2?!?! Yes Yes...
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I'm sorry, come again? You may want to check your definition of "proof of concept", cause you're way off here.
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No, not really. The concept being "is it possible to port other Mobile operating systems to the HD2" the proof being we all have android running on our phones.
As for orangekid's notion that if iOS were available on the leo we would all download it. I have to ask that you not speak for everyone else. I have used all the versions of the iPhone and not one of them is a real improvement on the one that went before in terms of usability and i certainly wouldn't download it. In fact i would probably sell my phone and move in favour of some cups and a very long, tight piece of string.
I've tried jaws-miui for two weeks and that was the closest experience i had of iphone look a like. I can say that is the most eye candy stuff that i've tried, and it works good if you can accept the less functioning with the best looking. But in my opinion i would never change the speed and functionality of my jmds 1.6.1 for anything at this moment. Yet again, miui is very impressive, but not for me.
I think that is important for everyone in this community to understand each other tastes and wishes the best they can. Even if they want to port symbian onto an hd2, it is just a matter of taste. Respect goes above all when we can understand other people needs. Dont feel bad for asking an iphone ui working on your hd2, because you are not the only one, but at least you came forward. sorry for my English anyway, just giving my point to the community.
Windows Mobile : IT'ers
Android: Men who still are kids and want to screw around with games and mods.
iOS: *facepalm*
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
neko_tensai said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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I don't quite understand. You don't have to flash, customize, or tinker with your phone at all. How much time you spend doing this is up to you. The phone works fine out of the box which is what you'll get with iPhone. If you want to get rid of bloat, then root it and remove the stuff you don't want.
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neko_tensai said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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Solution might be to find a ROM and stay with it, keep in mind flashing and or using custom ROMs are not for everyone, if you enjoy learning and bettering your knowledge and device well then it's the ticket for you, but if you find things are not working for you and you have hard time understanding, then maybe flashing custom ROMs are not your game...
There is nothing wrong with staying Stock and or Stock straight out of the box, as stated some have found that best for them.
Thank You.
Just go with iPhone we done anybody waffling back and forth. Goodbye!
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I would never consider an iPhone as an option...
That being said, I have always had issues with Paranoid Android... either on my Note and on my Nexus S. I would suggest the ROM in my signature. I love it. Lots of features, stable and smooth. But in the end, everyone tries many ROMs before settling one one that works best for them. Happy flashing!
I'll give a bunny to anyone that helps.
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I really don't want to get an iPhone again. I got rid of the 4S 64GB factory unlocked. It's like an ipod with some phone functionality, meaning I cant use it for much. I have Tmobile and this particular phone for various reasons and the root is very necessary.
I would prefer someone help. It's obvious something I'm flashing or how I am flashing it is borking the phones. Most likely the latter.
Wipe cache, wipe system, wipe Dalvik before flashing. Or follow the instructions on the ROM page's first few posts.
Bye crapple
@dubsteps what signature? There isn't one showing on your posts.
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Drama queen. No one told you that you need to flash ROMs. Get the iPhone and please go "complain" on the iPhone forums. Roms are free and devs are taking their "own" time out of their personal lives to make em. If you can't be thankful, you don't deserve to be here.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
No way I'd ever go to an iPhone again. I don't like being told what I am allowed to do with something I bought. Don't get me started on that though. IPhone is what you use until you know better, kinda like people used to use AOL until they learned more about the internet. We have several nice ROMs to pick from
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I don't know. I've flashed a number of the ROMs on here. I just followed the directions as stated and haven't had any issues. Maybe it's cause you're on t-mobile.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32446180&postcount=7
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dubsteps said:
I would never consider an iPhone as an option...
That being said, I have always had issues with Paranoid Android... either on my Note and on my Nexus S. I would suggest the ROM in my signature. I love it. Lots of features, stable and smooth. But in the end, everyone tries many ROMs before settling one one that works best for them. Happy flashing!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32443042#post32443042
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If or phone is sluggish mayb or not doing good action to it. Try starting from 0 that helps that means Odin the stock GB to the phone e and yes ull loose everything u have in our internal SD so back up. IPhone never they should put iphone 5/Apple prohibited. I love how my phone performs. Running jb toooo
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I had one many years ago, and i dont want another one
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Never owned an iphone, never will. Last apple i bought was the first 30gb video ipod. Itunes sucked ass, never went back.
Id go back to a blackberry before apple.
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neko_tensai said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920975
I don't want to abandon the custom ROMs and Android but this is getting too time consuming and causing problems. This is my final request for some solutions.
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If it is final one....then make it such.
We do not need more childish crying... do we?
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I got the old one on stock rom stock recovery. Its the same, very unresponsive. It takes 5 minutes just to set the language on the att start screens. The other phone is balking at connections with odin, im trying to put in only a bootloader and its got a green bar but the big area says BOOT is not changing color yet, like its at the last step and it stopped. Its odin 1.85 since the newer ones seemed worse.
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I got the old phone going, I think its fixed! I flashed the stock rom via odin thats on the forums. I used stock recovery to clear a couple caches. Then flashed cwm standard, from march or so, I used it to clear everything possible except sd card which was recently formatted as well but it has roms now. I flashed a nice safe collective mesosphere seraphim ics rom and its snappy and responsive. I think there is something wrong with some newer things, I dont know what, but I had no problems before I started with JB. fyi, bricking two phones is not normal for me.
The new phone wont talk to odin so it'll sit for a minute.
Going no where with this, so...
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I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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hykhleif said:
I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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Its simple. If you want root... and can't do it, then don't upgrade the firmware.
There is a mind set that people have... (me included somewhat)...
... its that we want 'updates' and think that it going to make our device so much better or faster than before. Reality is that despite a couple of fix's that we have had recently, the updates are not essential. or have not improved our experience dramatically. There is no need to update... its not going to give you much.
for me root is essential. I wont be updating to 290 unless I can get my ROM rooted and full working.
I know I'm ranting.... but when in Rome... :victory:
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LORDDDDD man I love your replies to my threads, I am starting to enjoy that you watch all my posts.
But seriously is that going to be the trend for getting root from now on that we have to wait for long times. I hope not. As root is very important for me as I use gl2sd app to move my big games to external sd.
why Is rooting a certain device more difficult than others, is because we don't have too many developers that bought our device. I just would like to know.
why for example samsung devices almost instantly get root?
hykhleif said:
LORDDDDD man I love your replies to my threads, I am starting to enjoy that you watch all my posts.
But seriously is that going to be the trend for getting root from now on that we have to wait for long times. I hope not. As root is very important for me as I use gl2sd app to move my big games to external sd.
why Is rooting a certain device more difficult than others, is because we don't have too many developers that bought our device. I just would like to know.
why for example samsung devices almost instantly get root?
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You want unlocked phone right? Unlock bootloader then, as simple as it gets.
Samsung is different because:
1. A lot of consumer which are hackers too, there
2. Samsung device is battery removable, indicating that it is much easier to access the device hardware wise. It was easy to semi-'unlock' my Xperia Ray due to removable battery.
3. AFAIK with all this, it seems that Samsung's devices is not as secure as Sony's devices. Have heard about rootkit virus in Desktop? Yeah the same problem came into mind with a rootable device which is insecure to hacker attack to alter the system partition.
So the only way out if you MUST have ROOT is to unlock the bootloader (i.e. it is purely your device, no Sony warranty will cover it). Unless some extreme hacker more extreme than our friend DoomLord could find the hole while keeping bootloader locked, we can wave goodbye to root in the mean time. Even if the mentioned miracle happens, Sony will quickly patch the hole for you
hykhleif said:
I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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Lord Manhattan is not the one you should worry about but rather moderators...
Root is achieved through exploits as they do represent a security breach in the OS. In other words, root is a double edged sword as giving permissions to the wrong app for the wrong thing could lead to bad consequences. Because companies don't exactly feel like being liable for leaving a "vulnerable device" in the shelves, they normally tend to tighten things like this up.
Devs on xda (and the entire Android community for that matter) work very hard to bring you the exploits. Getting impatient and ranting about your discontent will only make you look like self entitled and will do nothing but to give an open entry for people who love the community to flame you to smithereens...
With that being said, I am closing your thread. Please don't post like this anymore.... it is entirely useless and you will do nothing other than piss people off.
Hi everybody!
Im from Argentina, sorry if my english isn`t the best.
Saying that, im trying to use kitchen to make a simple rom for my forum in argentina. no one there knows about it..
And is my first samsung ever, before i had HOX, atrix, rzr hd... so im not familiar with some stuff like knox, the archive hidden and so...
My first project trys to run up form an FW, the ins 4.4, but i get stuck and change it for a nand of russian FW...
At that point i cuold use the system.ext4.tar.a just taking out the .a
I worked with that in the kitchen and im worry if i reput the worked system inside the nand something goes wrong, sadlly i cant afford to loose this phone cause of its price...
i was searching a lot and reading very hard this pasts weeks but i cant find any guides to cook a little rom so any help is wellcome
Ty for reading this.
Augusto.
Please define a real question. Right now I have an answer that is just some information. no real specific answers
Since the only thing you need to target is the system folder and the kernel Knox isn't even coming close, this also counts for the hidden partition. unless you want to make an odin rom.. but since you use the kitchen you probably don't want to use it.
My advise, take a look at other touchwiz custom roms, and see how they did it. There is no reason you would brick your device by flashing a valid system with CWM (which is less 'aggressive' then odin 1:1 write), if you don't trust it, first try using a zip from some other rom and make some customizations inside it.
If you are an actual developer, read this, although I think you can't handle the truth :silly:
The biggest thing that you will explore in your journey to touchwiz when you've made ROMS for HTC is that
a. Samsung has really easy flashing methods without risking a brick so fast. (compared to HTC it feels unbrickable), this is really the best thing about Samsung (When using the S series, Note series suck as well)
b. Samsung is the absolute world #1 in writing terrible firmware for relatively good hardware. (wasted space, sad work arounds, strange daemons, infected by many unknown things such as NSA crap)
c. Samsung absolutely loves to pretend their fail stock rom is great (which is what the average android user (without developing knowledge) would think), although they know it actually sucks donkey balls
(i can continue until 'f' or 'g' but I think you get the point)
Just letting you know that this extra partitions are not required, If you don't want to deal with either Knox or the hidden partition or w/e bull**** touchwiz roms come with, just use a rom base that actually is still Android, like an AOSP based ROM. which does not require many weird ways
Some people may be very angry when reading this but it's the truth, the truth of a South Korean company that makes good hardware but always finds a way to screw up their good hardware with terrible firmware writing (not only phones also smarttv etc).
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broodplank1337 said:
Please define a real question. Right now I have an answer that is just some information. no real specific answers
Since the only thing you need to target is the system folder and the kernel Knox isn't even coming close, this also counts for the hidden partition. unless you want to make an odin rom.. but since you use the kitchen you probably don't want to use it.
My advise, take a look at other touchwiz custom roms, and see how they did it. There is no reason you would brick your device by flashing a valid system with CWM (which is less 'aggressive' then odin 1:1 write), if you don't trust it, first try using a zip from some other rom and make some customizations inside it.
If you are an actual developer, read this, although I think you can't handle the truth :silly:
The biggest thing that you will explore in your journey to touchwiz when you've made ROMS for HTC is that
a. Samsung has really easy flashing methods without risking a brick so fast. (compared to HTC it feels unbrickable), this is really the best thing about Samsung (When using the S series, Note series suck as well)
b. Samsung is the absolute world #1 in writing terrible firmware for relatively good hardware. (wasted space, sad work arounds, strange daemons, infected by many unknown things such as NSA crap)
c. Samsung absolutely loves to pretend their fail stock rom is great (which is what the average android user (without developing knowledge) would think), although they know it actually sucks donkey balls
(i can continue until 'f' or 'g' but I think you get the point)
Just letting you know that this extra partitions are not required, If you don't want to deal with either Knox or the hidden partition or w/e bull**** touchwiz roms come with, just use a rom base that actually is still Android, like an AOSP based ROM. which does not require many weird ways
Some people may be very angry when reading this but it's the truth, the truth of a South Korean company that makes good hardware but always finds a way to screw up their good hardware with terrible firmware writing (not only phones also smarttv etc).
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Ok u r wright there r no questions in my statement.
I was looking for tips as u just did...
Now a real quest can i use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549357 to de knox de s4 i9500 cause i wolud love to start from a FW and im kind of lost with hidden partition. I dont even know what it is...
its been an year since i cooked with the kitchen, Vipers are really great for HOX and it doesnt need my hand at all... so im rusty a little bit and scearish (?)...
Guys I bought this device when it first came out, never did I ever think there would be zero dev interest in the device, or perhaps it would be better to state that the reason there isn't much in the way of dev interest is because Huawei has this device locked down with EMUI and it appears no one can break through. For those who don't need root then this doesn't really matter, but most of my apps do require root. My final solution was to forget the Huawei device and I bought what I believe is the most powerful device on the market today and I've already rooted it and I'm flying along. That device is the Asus Rog Phone 2, you might want to take a look at this and then decide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wwe5OW_jPE
I wish all of you the very best but I had enough of Huawei. To be fair I don't think the problem is all about Huawei, a big part of it is the clown in the White House.
I'm out of here, Krissy
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Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
Take a look here.
rubiicon59 said:
Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
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I'm not a gamer either, my philosophy however is that gaming devices are more reliable and sturdy because of the punishment they take from actual gamer's. My thought is it if holds up for a gamer then it should be no problem for me. So far this phone has proven me correct. One of the specs that blows me away is that there is a setting to set the device to 240 refresh, that's pretty darn quick. If you have any questions I'm open to answering them, that's how impressed I am with this puppy
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
"All your apps" require root? Your phone sounds FUN! Seriously, no games? No social media? I agree, a lot of apps need root, all of which are important, if you're rooted. Ad-block is the main reason for rooting, but you can't just have ad-block, you need Magisk manager, obviously. And twrp manager, because you need twrp to flash your root. Root browser, for those times you need to fix things you screwed up by being rooted. Greenify, to act as a placebo, because now you're rooted you can't be sure things work as they should. Busy Box for... erm, well nobody really knows what that's for. So yeah that's at least 6 apps. For one thing.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
astralbee said:
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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100% completely agree with you. Have rooted all my android phones in the last 10 years and bought P30 Pro knowing couldn't root it. I use adguard private DNS to block ads and then found out can used YouTube vanced on non rooted phones by simply installing the apk. After thinking could never live without root I'm finding it particularly easy at the moment!
I've rooted every Android phone I've ever had, except my Honor 9, but don't really feel the need for the P30 Pro. Sure there are apps I can't use or install because I'm not rooted but that doesn't detract from an amazing phone. Those [required root ] apps I can probably do without anyway.
Would you run Linux as root permanently? Really?
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
I am also disappointed but these days there is less and less reason for root. Right not, there are only three features I miss without root:
1. No Titanium Backup, so no easy way to do a full backup and make sure everything is backed up and can be restored
2. No way to limit battery charge (so it doesnt go up to 100%)
3. No DNS adblock (VPN work around is the closest I can find but that seems like it would drain battery)
rubiicon59 said:
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
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Android is NOT "marketed as open source". Show me a commercial website where it is "marketed" as such.
Android IS open source for OEMs to adapt to their devices! You bought a piece of hardware from Huawei, with a compiled Android OS. You can get the source code for Android if you want, but it comes with no hardware and no guarantee.
And your car analogy is terrible. Imagine modifying your car's software... and then your tachometer doesn't work right, or your battery drains, or your car won't start... totally unacceptable. Yet you want to do that to your phone?
I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
rubiicon59 said:
I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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The closest analogy for the car example is remapping the ECU. Manufacturers go to great lengths to encrypt ECUs and prevent mapping - much like locking a bootloader.
A lot of car mappers have to physically solder wires to certain points on the ECU circuitboard to enable them to map and edit the ECU programming. I'm fairly certain that if you went to that extreme to root your phone you could manage it, but nobody wants root *that* much.
And if you own a car that no engine mapper fancies finding a way to map? You're SOL - much like you are with your P30 Pro.
I used to root, now I dont. I find the devices now do 99% of the things I need without root. The 1%? I can live without Titanium Backup.
I'm sure the Asus device is powerful, but a lot of the people here bought the P30 Pro because they wanted a P30 Pro, not a different phone. Thanks for the review, but it's like going on a VW forum and saying 'OMG guys, sell up and go buy this BMW - IT'S AMAZING' - we're here because we wanted the VW...
@Isis111
Now you've had your ROG 2 for a while how are you getting along with it?
Since this thread I've been following the ROG 2 forum but even though root is available there's not much development happening. I was initially very interested after you started this thread but now I'm not sure the ROG 2 is as good as you said.
So I'm interested what your thoughts are now.
Also, what version do you have, and have you been impressed enough to buy any accessories?
Cheers