Differences between AOSP and Samsung-based ROM? / Tips for AOSP ROM? - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there,
I'm currently considering switching from a Samsung-based ROM to an AOSP-based ROM. Before doing so though, I'd like to check which Samsung / pre-installed apps will not work on an AOSP-based ROM (even if I transfer them using Titanium Backup), so I'd be grateful if someone could tell me. Also, which features would I lose doing so?
Then: If I decide to switch, can someone give me some tips as to which ROM to use? I'd prefer something lightweight, smooth, clean and stable based on Jelly Bean AOSP with some useful mods already installed. On my Desire I used Redux and Oxygen but I have no idea which SGS3 ROMs are like that.
TIA
SoWhy

SoWhy said:
Hi there,
I'm currently considering switching from a Samsung-based ROM to an AOSP-based ROM. Before doing so though, I'd like to check which Samsung / pre-installed apps will not work on an AOSP-based ROM (even if I transfer them using Titanium Backup), so I'd be grateful if someone could tell me. Also, which features would I lose doing so?
Then: If I decide to switch, can someone give me some tips as to which ROM to use? I'd prefer something lightweight, smooth, clean and stable based on Jelly Bean AOSP with some useful mods already installed. On my Desire I used Redux and Oxygen but I have no idea which SGS3 ROMs are like that.
TIA
SoWhy
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Regarding your first question the apps which are installed by Sammy require tw framework to work.. So may not work on aosp... You can try though but you will get fcs.. Regarding third party apps such as drop box, flipboard they will work.. But you can anyways get them in play store..
You will loose Sammy specific features such as smart stay, swipe to call, and other motion gestures..
I can't comment on the second part as there are no best ROMs, you will have to try them yourselves or read and compare the OP
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zoot1 said:
Regarding your first question the apps which are installed by Sammy require tw framework to work.. So may not work on aosp... You can try though but you will get fcs.. Regarding third party apps such as drop box, flipboard they will work.. But you can anyways get them in play store..
You will loose Sammy specific features such as smart stay, swipe to call, and other motion gestures..
I can't comment on the second part as there are no best ROMs, you will have to try them yourselves or read and compare the OP
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Thanks for the reply. As for ROM tips, I'm not asking for the best, I'm just asking for tips for lightweight, fast, stable and clean ROMs - preferably ones updated regularly - so I can have a look and choose myself.

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[Q] Full set of ICS AOSP Google Apps?

Is there any way I can get my hands on a flashable ZIP (or even just a folder of APKs) of all the AOSP google apps—browser, clock, contacts, calendar, gallery, messaging, and phone? My perfect ROM would basically be stock Samsung ICS with TouchWiz apps replaced with their Google equivalents.
All the ROMs that have this (i.e. Resurrection) go a bit far with theming/mods for my taste, so I'd just like to cook my own. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
AOSP apps won't work on a Samsung base. Completely different framework.
A Samsung ICS base? I was under the impression that Holo apps would still work—like Gmail, Maps, Talk, etc.
Unlikely. If you want to try it, go to the CM9 discussion thread & download Gapps from link in the first post.
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Unlikely. If you want to try it, go to the CM9 discussion thread & download Gapps from link in the first post.
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Thanks, will try.
Alternatively, what do you think would be the best ROM for AOSP apps? Just wait for CM9 to iron out all the kinks? (Personally just waiting on HDMI out to work.)
I've been using CM9 for a week (after testing it for a few days a month ago) & it's easily the best SGS2 rom either GB or ICS. The few things that don't work at the moment aren't a problem for me because I don't use them, but I've had zero problems/FCs/etc. Battery life is fantastic, definitely a daily driver for me.
Other AOSP ICS "roms" are winzip/theme jobs & not really roms, no significant original content in these. I haven't tried any of these.
MistahBungle said:
I've been using CM9 for a week (after testing it for a few days a month ago) & it's easily the best SGS2 rom either GB or ICS. The few things that don't work at the moment aren't a problem for me because I don't use them, but I've had zero problems/FCs/etc. Battery life is fantastic, definitely a daily driver for me.
Other AOSP ICS "roms" are winzip/theme jobs & not really roms, no significant original content in these. I haven't tried any of these.
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I'll have to give CM a try, then. Are the remaining problems just a matter of needing some code from Samsung?
Don't know. Ask Codeworkx or Xplodwild. Things like FM radio are very unlikely to ever make their way into CM9.
redct said:
I'll have to give CM a try, then. Are the remaining problems just a matter of needing some code from Samsung?
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All those aosp apps you asked are already there in resurrection and spike ics roms. Even more spike has a sperate aosp zip package to flash separately. You can try those.
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Need AOSP apps for stock
bala_gamer said:
All those aosp apps you asked are already there in resurrection and spike ics roms. Even more spike has a sperate aosp zip package to flash separately. You can try those.
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It's there but I want to have (as OP has posted) just stock rom and just replace certain apps with aosp ones.
Is there a guide?

resurrection remix with samsung stock apps

Hi all
as it is vacation and i have a lot of free time atm, i played around with some custom roms. I really liked the customisation and performance of resurrection remix, but after some time playing around on any custom rom, i found myself missing my stock samsung apps which in my opinion are mcuh more convenient, although that may just be because i'm used to them. Now my question was if there was any way to get the customisations and performance of a resurrection remix and such, but to install the stock samsung apps over it? that would really be perfect for me, but yeah i know, aosp roms, open source, not samsung apps. any tips very much appreciated
Wrong section.
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Which apps you want from stock in RR?
Most of them rely on TouchWiz framework (ctomgee told me ).
well, the first I can think off are camera, agenda contacts and maybe messaging, but if they really depend on stock framework then this will be impossible or at least quite difficult I guess
"Can port?"
Camera, MMS - no, agenda - I think yes, contacts... probably no
Mhm, then it seems quite impossible to make it happen, I can get the performance tweaks by installing siyah kernel but the customisibility won't be for me apparently

[Q] Can I use the official clock and camera app on Cyanogen or are they incompatible?

I want to use Cyanogen or Slimbean etc. but I frigging hate the Camera app and I really hate the clock app too. I really don't want to use an official rom for my phone but I really cannot part with those apps.
Is there anyway I can use something like Titanium Backup to save the .apk and just overwrite it over the Cyanogen/Slimbean one instead?
I can't stress how badly I need to do this, it's the deal-breaker of Cyanogen.. I've never tried it before but I don't want to waste a couple of hours flashing and revamping to find that I can't do it.. :/
Has anyone tried? I can't find another thread over it... just on the HTC camera app.
leijonasisu said:
I want to use Cyanogen or Slimbean etc. but I frigging hate the Camera app and I really hate the clock app too. I really don't want to use an official rom for my phone but I really cannot part with those apps.
Is there anyway I can use something like Titanium Backup to save the .apk and just overwrite it over the Cyanogen/Slimbean one instead?
I can't stress how badly I need to do this, it's the deal-breaker of Cyanogen.. I've never tried it before but I don't want to waste a couple of hours flashing and revamping to find that I can't do it.. :/
Has anyone tried? I can't find another thread over it... just on the HTC camera app.
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AFAIK you can't. The camera app on Stock rom is a touchwiz based app. Won't be compatible with CM
What if I move touchwiz with me? You mean the launcher right, or is that something different completely :/ is there really no way to even try and get it working as a beta? I mean it's leagues ahead of Cyanogen's Camera app and I take so many pictures with my phone... I really miss those options.
Touchwiz is not just the launcher. Its the name of the software framework running on the phone (android x.x + all the other stuff including the interface, camera, messaging apps etc. Since the camera app is part of that, it's impossible to port it to for example cyanogenmod.
You should just wait for android 4.2 to be ported to the s3. As far as i have seen the camera works great with many options !

[Q] What Android APP Does This?

Hi,
Good day
I'm looking for an android app which is basically a NOTIFIER that is always on top of any running applications
(like Floating Notification, GO Toucher etc) but what I am specifically looking for is a function that:
For example - I am playing games, when someone SMS/FB Chat/Email/IMO etc... me, it pops up on my current screen then what I want is I can directly reply WITHOUT closing or alt-tabbing the game. Hope it is clear enough.
I don't know what search tag should I use because typing "pop up notifier" seems too broad or it does not have what I am looking for.
Hope you can help me
Thanks!
I am using Galaxy S3 Omega ROM v45 if you must know.
Try installing a custom ROM such as Paranoid Android. It has halo which is exactly what you're looking for.
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henslo said:
Try installing a custom ROM such as Paranoid Android. It has halo which is exactly what you're looking for.
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Hi heslo,
This is a very useful info.
Thanks mate but i think this will be my last resort because installing another ROM is a pain in a butt. hehe~
But you know, if its an APP pre-loaded in Paranoid ROM, I think I can extract that and install in mine?
Don't think it will work with stock type ROM. Installing another ROM is not hard to do Lol. Just remember to wipe data/system/cache/dalvik cache. Once you install a Paranoid Android or any other AOSP/AOKP ROM you will like it much more. Halo is a great app, plus all the other great features. Look it up on YouTube plenty of videos on it plus I'm sure a few tutorials on how to install custom ROMs for your device :good:
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3rd party apps cant do this. That's why floating notifications doesn't do it. Requires lots of other framework and system ui changes. Only HALO does this
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Have tried many roms - going back to stock?

Hey guys, just wanted to share.
I tried many roms (PA, CM, Omni, S5 Sensations etc) and I always find something missing/not working properly.
sometimes its the battery draining too fast, sometimes just random crashes and so on.
I'm thinking of going back to stock. I have the i9300 and the latest stock one is 4.3 (boooooo).
Has anyone done this route before? someone here also gone back from roms to stock?
Will be nice to hear others opinion.
Thanks :cyclops:
TopTomy said:
Hey guys, just wanted to share.
I tried many roms (PA, CM, Omni, S5 Sensations etc) and I always find something missing/not working properly.
sometimes its the battery draining too fast, sometimes just random crashes and so on.
I'm thinking of going back to stock. I have the i9300 and the latest stock one is 4.3 (boooooo).
Has anyone done this route before? someone here also gone back from roms to stock?
Will be nice to hear others opinion.
Thanks :cyclops:
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I am also using stock rom, but a stock deodexed rom by JustArchi. Everything works great, battery life is good, performance is good.I recommend everybody to use stock because it is the best
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gabyif said:
I am also using stock rom, but a stock deodexed rom by JustArchi. Everything works great, battery life is good, performance is good.I recommend everybody to use stock because it is the best
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Ah nice. not sure i tried that rom, can you link me to it?
TopTomy said:
I always find something missing/not working properly...sometimes its the battery draining too fast, sometimes just random crashes and so on.
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Even stock ROMs can be plagued by similar issues to be honest.
To minimise the irritations I always clean flash any ROM that I install and restore only apps, not data.
I'm currently rocking this stock based KK ROM port:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-qs-i9300-kk-t2755841
with version 6.2 of this kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/kernel-boeffla-kernel-5-2-27-03-2014-t1964572
without any problems, it is certainly no less stable or functional than pretty much every factory Samsung ROM I have ever used.
If you do want to go back to 4.3 stock based ROM, I have always found Imperium http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37656328&postcount=2 to be pretty much perfect as a reliable, stable daily driver, using the stock kernel with a moderate profile (set in Aroma) I could easily get the thick end of 2 days off a charge under light use but with wifi always on and a bunch of apps like eBay, K9, Gmail, BBC weather syncing in the background.
TopTomy said:
Ah nice. not sure i tried that rom, can you link me to it?
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Here you are http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/rom-justarchis-sammy-stock-deodex-root-t2762714
hundred_miles_high said:
Even stock ROMs can be plagued by similar issues to be honest.
To minimise the irritations I always clean flash any ROM that I install and restore only apps, not data.
I'm currently rocking this stock based KK ROM port:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-qs-i9300-kk-t2755841
with version 6.2 of this kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/kernel-boeffla-kernel-5-2-27-03-2014-t1964572
without any problems, it is certainly no less stable or functional than pretty much every factory Samsung ROM I have ever used.
If you do want to go back to 4.3 stock based ROM, I have always found Imperium http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37656328&postcount=2 to be pretty much perfect as a reliable, stable daily driver, using the stock kernel with a moderate profile (set in Aroma) I could easily get the thick end of 2 days off a charge under light use but with wifi always on and a bunch of apps like eBay, K9, Gmail, BBC weather syncing in the background.
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THX for the awesome reply! very cool info.
TopTomy said:
Hey guys, just wanted to share.
I tried many roms (PA, CM, Omni, S5 Sensations etc) and I always find something missing/not working properly.
sometimes its the battery draining too fast, sometimes just random crashes and so on.
I'm thinking of going back to stock. I have the i9300 and the latest stock one is 4.3 (boooooo).
Has anyone done this route before? someone here also gone back from roms to stock?
Will be nice to hear others opinion.
Thanks :cyclops:
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i also wanted to go back to stock rom for camera and music app
but multitasking is awful in stock rom
also after using stock rom for couple of hours you started to feel lag
lag in dialer,camera and gallery is unbearable
so currently i am using neatrom aosp as primary rom and smartdroid kk v1 as secondary rom
with arters dual boot kernel
quaker1985 said:
i also wanted to go back to stock rom for camera and music app
but multitasking is awful in stock rom
also after using stock rom for couple of hours you started to feel lag
lag in dialer,camera and gallery is unbearable
so currently i am using neatrom aosp as primary rom and smartdroid kk v1 as secondary rom
with arters dual boot kernel
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Hey, you nailed it - main lag is within camera, gallery & dialer.
in Touchwiz i imminently replace the stock dialer with eXdialer, and the stock gallery with QuickPic.
I also been trying almost all the 4.3./4.4/5.02 but 4.3 stock base is the most stable and trouble free rom for me .
I cant stand whenever you want to snap a important picture the camera crash and need to restart.or phone freeze .
My favourites are 1- SMART DROID Simple v9.9 2-JustArchi_I9300XXUGNG3 3-NCSSROM NK2
#1 & 3 are heavily debloated + CROSSBREEDER it flys
TopTomy said:
Hey, you nailed it - main lag is within camera, gallery & dialer.
in Touchwiz i imminently replace the stock dialer with eXdialer, and the stock gallery with QuickPic.
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what about multitasking in stock rom??
have you come across any stock rom with proper multitasking?
when i use stock rom almost all apps reload while multitasking (even with lot of free ram)

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