Hello,
I've been on stock kernel/OS since I bought my unbranded I9100 some time ago, that means Gingerbread 2.3.4, I9100XXKI1, Kernel 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKI4-CL575468 (rooted, of course).
I'm thinking about trying CM9 or CM10, just for fun. I think I know pretty well what to expect, but am trying to figure out if there are things I will be missing. As far as I can tell, the following will change significantly:
- Touchwiz launcher replaced, of course. No biggie.
- Swype will be gone, right? I played around with CM way back, and there seemed to be some discussions about how to take Swype with you, but I assume this will be rather hard when going from Gingerbread to JB? Or is there a good way to keep it (without buying it separately)? I like it rather a lot...
- The four hubs (Social Hub etc.) will be gone. Good riddance, as well, I've never used any of them.
- I've not used any of the Samsung remote features (to locate a stolen/lost device; OTA, or KIES), so I guess they will be gone, but I won't miss them.
Is there anything else I've missed that's been added by Samsung? I want to avoid a problem where I don't actually notice anything important missing at first, and then noticing weeks later...
Thank you for your time!
I noticed my camera was missing on one of them.
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No tv out. No fm radio. If swype is the keyboard typing style, i dont think thats gone, but i will check.
Camera is still better in stock touchwiz. Also, clear ram from recent apps isnt there.
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You could use titanium backup to backup all of your (system) apps. If something (important) turns out to be missing, you can restore it easily. Apart from that, flash it, you won't be disappointed. Good luck with exploring all the possibilities.
Ota's
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Unleashed1985 said:
You could use titanium backup to backup all of your (system) apps. If something (important) turns out to be missing, you can restore it easily. Apart from that, flash it, you won't be disappointed. Good luck with exploring all the possibilities.
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Apps only in touchwiz wont work in aosp roms since they are deeply integrated within the touchwiz framework, so no use backup app system apps nor system data. Restoring system data may cause problems ranging from bootloops to force closes.
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Spiralzz said:
Apps only in touchwiz wont work in aosp roms since they are deeply integrated within the touchwiz framework, so no use backup app system apps nor system data. Restoring system data may cause problems ranging from bootloops to force closes.
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I stand corrected! Thanks.
SeGalaxy said:
Hello,
I've been on stock kernel/OS since I bought my unbranded I9100 some time ago, that means Gingerbread 2.3.4, I9100XXKI1, Kernel 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKI4-CL575468 (rooted, of course).
I'm thinking about trying CM9 or CM10, just for fun. I think I know pretty well what to expect, but am trying to figure out if there are things I will be missing. As far as I can tell, the following will change significantly:
- Touchwiz launcher replaced, of course. No biggie.
- Swype will be gone, right? I played around with CM way back, and there seemed to be some discussions about how to take Swype with you, but I assume this will be rather hard when going from Gingerbread to JB? Or is there a good way to keep it (without buying it separately)? I like it rather a lot...
- The four hubs (Social Hub etc.) will be gone. Good riddance, as well, I've never used any of them.
- I've not used any of the Samsung remote features (to locate a stolen/lost device; OTA, or KIES), so I guess they will be gone, but I won't miss them.
Is there anything else I've missed that's been added by Samsung? I want to avoid a problem where I don't actually notice anything important missing at first, and then noticing weeks later...
Thank you for your time!
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1.Touchwiz Calender
2.Touchwiz Clock (this has been successfully ported)
3. Camera App
4. Video player and hardware multicodec support
5. Preinstalled file manager, you will to download one after install
5. Swype is not an issue, you can download Swype on beta.swype.com
I'll add more when i remember because presently i am not usinga stock ROM
6. Swipe left on contacts to text, swipe right on contacts to call.
7. Native video calling in phone app
:laugh::laugh: seems to me an endless list of MISS for sure, the poor guy @op will be really scared to proceed further
Sun90 said:
:laugh::laugh: seems to me an endless list of MISS for sure, the poor guy @op will be really scared to proceed further
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Lol Sun,hes saved loads of time though....
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Thanks for the great additions, guys (& gals)!
2.Touchwiz Clock (this has been successfully ported)
3. Camera App
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Alright, the clock. I use that a lot, all of it (alarm + timer + stopwatch). That would be a bummer to loose, I guess there will be some useful replacements on the market though.
There are plenty of camera apps around. Can I safely assume that the picture quality (as it is) will be the same as with the stock camera app? I use the camera for taking pictures, I need no effects, online stuff etc. around photos. In fact I am not that happy with the stock camera, as I find it tough to shoot a photo when I don't see the screen... so I'll be happy to hunt for a camera app that supports some of the hardware buttons for shooting.
5. Swype is not an issue, you can download Swype on beta.swype.com
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Well yes, but I'll have to register/pay for it, or don't I?
Is there a way to see which app is Samsung specific, on the phone itself? Or is basically *any* app that shipped with it either in gapps or by Samsung/Touchwiz?
Thanks a lot, again.
SeGalaxy said:
Thanks for the great additions, guys (& gals)!
Alright, the clock. I use that a lot, all of it (alarm + timer + stopwatch). That would be a bummer to loose, I guess there will be some useful replacements on the market though.
There are plenty of camera apps around. Can I safely assume that the picture quality (as it is) will be the same as with the stock camera app? I use the camera for taking pictures, I need no effects, online stuff etc. around photos. In fact I am not that happy with the stock camera, as I find it tough to shoot a photo when I don't see the screen... so I'll be happy to hunt for a camera app that supports some of the hardware buttons for shooting.
Well yes, but I'll have to register/pay for it, or don't I?
Is there a way to see which app is Samsung specific, on the phone itself? Or is basically *any* app that shipped with it either in gapps or by Samsung/Touchwiz?
Thanks a lot, again.
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u can check this spreadsheet link below, hope it will be usefull for u
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AnO2-4y6yE1gdDJRekl4QmkyNmIzUmRvX2h3UDVkQXc&output=html
Just make a nand backup of what youve got then try other roms.You can revert back if your not happy.
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SeGalaxy said:
Thanks for the great additions, guys (& gals)!
Alright, the clock. I use that a lot, all of it (alarm + timer + stopwatch). That would be a bummer to loose, I guess there will be some useful replacements on the market though.
There are plenty of camera apps around. Can I safely assume that the picture quality (as it is) will be the same as with the stock camera app? I use the camera for taking pictures, I need no effects, online stuff etc. around photos. In fact I am not that happy with the stock camera, as I find it tough to shoot a photo when I don't see the screen... so I'll be happy to hunt for a camera app that supports some of the hardware buttons for shooting.
Well yes, but I'll have to register/pay for it, or don't I?
Is there a way to see which app is Samsung specific, on the phone itself? Or is basically *any* app that shipped with it either in gapps or by Samsung/Touchwiz?
Thanks a lot, again.
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Swype is free and so is the registration and download. Visit the website on your Android browser.
Swyped from my Galaxy SII
SeGalaxy said:
Hello,
I've been on stock kernel/OS since I bought my unbranded I9100 some time ago, that means Gingerbread 2.3.4, I9100XXKI1, Kernel 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKI4-CL575468 (rooted, of course).
I'm thinking about trying CM9 or CM10, just for fun. I think I know pretty well what to expect, but am trying to figure out if there are things I will be missing. As far as I can tell, the following will change significantly:
- Touchwiz launcher replaced, of course. No biggie.
- Swype will be gone, right? I played around with CM way back, and there seemed to be some discussions about how to take Swype with you, but I assume this will be rather hard when going from Gingerbread to JB? Or is there a good way to keep it (without buying it separately)? I like it rather a lot...
- The four hubs (Social Hub etc.) will be gone. Good riddance, as well, I've never used any of them.
- I've not used any of the Samsung remote features (to locate a stolen/lost device; OTA, or KIES), so I guess they will be gone, but I won't miss them.
Is there anything else I've missed that's been added by Samsung? I want to avoid a problem where I don't actually notice anything important missing at first, and then noticing weeks later...
Thank you for your time!
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If u try custom rom based on stock, then its not like u missing anything..but if custom based on cm9/cm10, AOSP, then u missing camera quality..
DarkRom/Superatmos Kernal
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You will loose different things, but alot of the things you will miss by first boot you can find here on XDA or on playstore.
And you will probably loose your warranty...
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You will loose different things, but alot of the things you will miss by first boot you can find here on XDA or on playstore.
And you will probably loose your warranty...
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Triangle Away is a useful app.... If you get what i mean...
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CM 9 is not that good.. additionally you lose call blocking ability but you can download the app.. there is an app for everything but you know.. your really gonna miss touchwiz,
I did.. and I would have moved off cm9 by now cause my battery was draining pretty bad on the rom however after 3 days the battery time was back to normal which is weird..
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Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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It's how samsung designed it and if it bugs you just root the phone and freeze the apps with titanium backup
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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this is just how android works. it loads up many apps on boot, and in the background even when you didnt not open them, so that it is faster the next time you need to use said apps. some people hate it, but the bottom line is there's nothing you can do about it except remove those apps from your phone. its just how android is built.
You have problems with RAM ? I use like 10% most of the time.
Free RAM is wasted resource. Stop thinking of things in terms of how Windows work with it crappy resource management system previous to Windows 7.
Well, if the RAM used for these apps could have been used to store apps that I really USE instead of apps I don't us, the useful apps could have been started quicker... (and apps I have used recently would not have been kicked out of memory so fast.
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again they need to make the system *really* clever by having it learn what apps you use the most and load the relevant processes rather than stuff which is unlikely to get used.
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snudel said:
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
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But I am not eager to root...
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But I am not eager to root...
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Then you will have to live with it
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Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
tommo123 said:
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
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this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
tommo123 said:
it take ages before the phone is usable.
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My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
kreoXDA said:
Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
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Well Captain Obvious, I never run or use these apps and widgets... Hehe. That's why I asked originally...
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RogerPodacter said:
this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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my 2nd actually (desire last time round), rooted both, same annoyances in both - not HTC bloat, or samsung - the fact that i can't have control (key word here) over my phone. i mean if i wanted an OS without options i would have gone for an iphone!
i've tried a few apps that claim to stop apps booting up but they all fail.
as far as removing them, why? a simpler solution would be to stop the damn things running all the time. i don't use photoshop on my PC daily but i'm not going to install/uninstall the thing as i use it. it should just sit there waiting to be ran not doing anything at all until that moment.
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My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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still a long time when you're looking at the screen wishing it would hurry the hell up. seriously, count it. boot up your phone in front of someone with winmo 7 or an iphone then, after it turns on and you see the first glimpse of your homescreen say - it'll just take another 20 seconds or so. 1...., 2..... 3..... 4..... 5...... etc etc etc.
it's annoying and bad practise from an "instant on" standpoint. i want to turn it on, type in pin, see homescreen and hit a shortcut and have it load. not have to other stuff i wont use that day to load in the background first.
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anyhoo - this is something that annoys me - big time ...obviously
yeah its just something that you're gonna have to live with. its just the way android is designed for better or worse.
If you have root, get an app called Gemini app manager, its free and you can tweak the autorun settings for anything.
That not the OS caching in ram(good) but stuff you dont need running and using cpu etc(bad).
Just be carefull about what you tweak and backup etc.
Surely stock apps don't each that much battery right? my ram is usually 200MB-300MB / 1GB and I'm using a brand new SG2 stock firmware / unrooted and the only widgets i have are pictures/weather/google search.
Even though social hub, digital clock, etc still run in "Running applications" the list is pretty small...
I know there are other threads out there about this subject, but figured I would bring it here to the Razr threads.. Who would like to help me get S Voice working on the Razr? I installed the zip that I got at another thread and it doesn't work 100% yet (likes to hang on stuff...)
I'm still not an experienced Android hacker/coder, but would be willing to help out one if they wanted to take part in this project..
I do have Linux command line experience, run Linux, and have had a few years of webOS hacking So I'm not a total newb to the game lol
Let me know if you would be interested in helping me with this
Thanks,
Patrick
After a few reboots, S Voice is working better. On Board mic has not worked since install though, Bluetooth works fine..
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I fixed the issue with the mic not working, seems to be an issue on my end and nothing to do with S Voice.. Only thing left that I can think of before we can call this 100% working, is changing it from launching only stock apps, to the apps that you set as stock (I.E. Google Voice for texting, whatever you have set for calling, etc.)
Certain things like saving alarms and memos and such will not work unless you have the corresponding clock and memo apps from SGS3.
Really its not worth it. Aokp and cm will have jellybean merged within the month more than likely.Google Now does everything s voice does but way better.
I used s voice for a few days and was disappointed. Give it a few weeks and just use Google Now
lucas.scott said:
Certain things like saving alarms and memos and such will not work unless you have the corresponding clock and memo apps from SGS3.
Really its not worth it. Aokp and cm will have jellybean merged within the month more than likely.Google Now does everything s voice does but way better.
I used s voice for a few days and was disappointed. Give it a few weeks and just use Google Now
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Do you really think that it isn't worth it? Granted, I've yet to use Google Now, but I really like S Voice.. And I think it would only take minor changes to change the path of the app launched for things like that.
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Do you really think that it isn't worth it? Granted, I've yet to use Google Now, but I really like S Voice.. And I think it would only take minor changes to change the path of the app launched for things like that.
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I really think its not worth it at this point. Its more or less just a themed Vlingo with system app access (to sammys system apps).
Wait a few weeks and run Google Now ( or read over this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749045). They have GoogleNow running on ICS but i think it has something not working last i checked.
I SHOULD have a modded Svoice that me and some people here at xda worked on when i had my Razr. Worked just fine other than saving alarms and memos. Ill look and see if its still in my dropbox and link here if it is.
lucas.scott said:
I really think its not worth it at this point. Its more or less just a themed Vlingo with system app access (to sammys system apps).
Wait a few weeks and run Google Now ( or read over this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749045). They have GoogleNow running on ICS but i think it has something not working last i checked.
I SHOULD have a modded Svoice that me and some people here at xda worked on when i had my Razr. Worked just fine other than saving alarms and memos. Ill look and see if its still in my dropbox and link here if it is.
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The Google Now that they have working is missing voice recognition (something about it being Jelly Bean specific kernel stuff) and that's the only thing keeping me from using it.. The only thing
Ah. Yeah that's a major setback.
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lucas.scott said:
I really think its not worth it at this point. Its more or less just a themed Vlingo with system app access (to sammys system apps).
Wait a few weeks and run Google Now ( or read over this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749045). They have GoogleNow running on ICS but i think it has something not working last i checked.
I SHOULD have a modded Svoice that me and some people here at xda worked on when i had my Razr. Worked just fine other than saving alarms and memos. Ill look and see if its still in my dropbox and link here if it is.
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S Voice also gave me network error. It would be awesome if you have one that actually works.
Title says it all.
I have around 8000 contacts. At first when i got it it would open right away. Now it takes a minute or two even after restart
lol, 8000 contacts?! Can't imagine why it takes a while to open?! You have contact pics too?!
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Nope no pics. I know its a lot
Problem was it was working fine then it just flipped on me
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Try running a cache cleaner app maybe to have a thorough cache clean, with cache cleaner ng you can select which you want to clean, I pretty much clear all apart from maps, I run it once a day,, keeps things clean and smooth
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i have the exact same problem too, ive tried over a dozen roms including stock, but the contacts app still lags sometimes for a second and up till 3, currently on clockwork mod recovery, siyah (latest), checkrom v4.
i guess it could be a problem if you have linked contacts to facebook, whatsapp and skype, but i dont know i would have to do some testing before i can tell for sure.
anyone come across a script/fix/modded contacts.apk file yet?
I recently started experiencing this problem also, awkward it happened all of the sudden. I have 300ish contacts
Okay so this is what i know for sure. The contacts app on CM 10 like paranoidandroid works amazing. Its the main reason why im not sticking to a sammy rom. so for sammy rom users try unlinking facebook/skype whatever app from your contacts. If that doesnt work then your contacts have already been filled with heavy bits of info like profile pictures extracted by facebook app etc. So thats whats keeping your contacts laggy. the best fix i can think of is to delete facebook, backup contacs, back em up again with another app to be safe, delete both fb and all contacts. reinstall fb and dont select merge with contacts or whatever it asks. THEN restore contacs. Ill try it when the original sammy jb is released and write back on how quick it loads.
Is there any modded apk for contact apps yet? I've experience the same slowness but I still wanted to stick with sammy.
I used xposed framework to lock it in memory, feel little fast but not so much.
In my old S2 contacts app was really fast... This is sad...
fabianocruzdf said:
I used xposed framework to lock it in memory, feel little fast but not so much.
In my old S2 contacts app was really fast... This is sad...
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I never found this reliable. But it is Memory management related. Its not the app itself, rather the samsung Android ROM. There's no real solution for this problem if you want to remain on a Samsung ROM.
rootSU said:
I never found this reliable. But it is Memory management related. Its not the app itself, rather the samsung Android ROM. There's no real solution for this problem if you want to remain on a Samsung ROM.
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Do you know if this happens in s4 or note 2 as well?
I want to buy a Galaxy Note 2, does he have the same problem?
I don't know. I don't own those devices.
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http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/9/25/3403928/samsung-touchwiz-reset-vulnerability
I saw this was a problem for the galaxy and wondered if anyone knows if the note could be reset by this too?
Edit...I searched the comments and found this:
******OMG this just worked on my Galaxy Note so I just ripped the battery out of it before it was able to reboot. It said " phone will reboot after factory reset!! If I put my battery back in will it continue the reset or should I be ok. Galaxy Note 1717R
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E_engineer said:
I saw this was a problem for the galaxy and wondered if anyone knows if the note could be reset by this too?
Edit...I searched the comments and found this:
******OMG this just worked on my Galaxy Note so I just ripped the battery out of it before it was able to reboot. It said " phone will reboot after factory reset!! If I put my battery back in will it continue the reset or should I be ok. Galaxy Note 1717R
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OUCH! That's a bit of an issue, I'd say... Thank heavens for Non-Touchwiz ROMs! =]
On a bit of a sidenote, it looks like the method used by that exploit uses similar formatting to standard service mode access commands built into the stock OS... I wonder if this method can launch other service mode functions? If so, that could be a bit scary... Especially if it happens to someone unaware of this sort of thing...
tangobravo78 said:
OUCH! That's a bit of an issue, I'd say... Thank heavens for Non-Touchwiz ROMs! =]
On a bit of a sidenote, it looks like the method used by that exploit uses similar formatting to standard service mode access commands built into the stock OS... I wonder if this method can launch other service mode functions? If so, that could be a bit scary... Especially if it happens to someone unaware of this sort of thing...
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Yes , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905371
It's time to locate the exploit within the build and disable it .
Wow ...and I'm running a touchwiz rom ...
Saurom 2.3.6 is all ..but I'm sure it's still vulnerable ...g
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ng-exploit-it-was-already-fixed-in-an-update/
It would appear it is not just a Touchwiz issue. While not necessarily applicable to our phones, this has apparently been known for quite a while and has been fixed in JB and other incremental updates on other phones, so maybe the same can be done for us.
gregsarg said:
It's time to locate the exploit within the build and disable it .
Wow ...and I'm running a touchwiz rom ...
Saurom 2.3.6 is all ..but I'm sure it's still vulnerable ...g
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I agree. Sadly I had to leave the JB ROMS due to issues experienced. Came back to FJ ICS b5 due to it's completeness. But now I fear this exploit. I did the test run and the results were that I am vulnerable.
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Until a patch is released, use another dialer.
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Until a patch is released, use another dialer.
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The vulnerability test failed for me using exDailer so it is unclear to me of this is actually a fix.
It's not the dialer but done via HTML code through a browser.
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stock browser seems to be the most vulnerable....but others as well...g
gregsarg said:
It's time to locate the exploit within the build and disable it .
Wow ...and I'm running a touchwiz rom ...
Saurom 2.3.6 is all ..but I'm sure it's still vulnerable ...g
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gregsarg said:
stock browser seems to be the most vulnerable....but others as well...g
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Hi gregsarg, I'm running Saurom 2.3.6 - v7.1 too, and my Note's not directly vulnerable to the USSD exploit with GrooVe IP installed. To clarify somewhat, the stock touchwiz dialer is set to default, so the system should be vulnerable to a direct url attack. Nonetheless, when I test for the USSD exploit vulnerability with the stock browser, using a safe test like dylanreeveDOTcom/phone.php ***, the select dialer window pops up instead of the system initiating the touchwiz dialer like it normally would by default. This at least stops the exploit from being initiated unless the stock dialer's manually selected. Nevertheless, when I manually select the touchwiz dialer with dylanreeve's USSD Exploit Test url, the touchwiz dialer does show my IMEI, d'oh! This confirms that Saurom is vulnerable to the exploit without a third party dialer installed. Moreover, as you mentioned, the next step should be to test other browsers in order to see if the exploit can be stopped without the need for a third party dialer. On that note, have you found any browsers yet that prevent the USSD exploit?
*** If anyone would like to safely test for the exploit, just type dylanreeveDOTcom/phone.php with a "." instead of the "DOT" into your browser, and please post your findings, including your browser, dialer, & specific touchwiz based ROM build.
Best to all,
R
No concrete list at this point, however it is logical to assume that with so many browsers sharing the same engine, and simply skin changed ....that many browsers are affected .
The fact that the GB stock builds require an additional step to access the TW dialer, is at least a small safety net, unlike ICS and JB ..
These builds forward directly to the dialer, and execute the exploit.
I knew that GB was my favorite for a reason ....LOL
I know the development community is very aware of the issue, and we shouldn't have to wait long for a patch...or even a modified browser Apk to shield the exploit....
Meanwhile....Samsung is hard at work patching the issue on their end.
What I'm worried about, is the possibility that an official update will be pushed out, and to get it, we would need a return to stock option until our devs can patch around the problem ...g
What do you have to do for this bug i have ran the test and i am apparently vulnerable
Running flaps ics+fjmod, stock dialer/browser
The exploit is a crafted HTML code, that opens the stock touchwiz dial pad, and auto dials the hard reset code for samsung devices....(SGN, SGS, skyrocket ...pretty much all of the devices using a TW rom base )
It is indigenous to the touchwiz UI, and the touchwiz dialer in any current Samsung rom or it's variant.
The solution at the moment, was thought to be the use of a third party dialer, but the exploit will persist there also, but does require the user to select the dialer of choice, whether it be the stock pad , or a third party app.
Either way ...the exploit will trigger once the code runs, or the user selects a dialer option.
The result is, the device immediately wipes data, and will hard reset the contents.
Although the exploit does no permanent damage I.E. chips etcetera, it is certainly malicious in it's design and intent.
Nonetheless, its a bug that has no business in our affairs, and needs a permanent patch...g
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No concrete list at this point, however it is logical to assume that with so many browsers sharing the same engine, and simply skin changed ....that many browsers are affected .
The fact that the GB stock builds require an additional step to access the TW dialer, is at least a small safety net, unlike ICS and JB ..
These builds forward directly to the dialer, and execute the exploit.
I knew that GB was my favorite for a reason ....LOL
I know the development community is very aware of the issue, and we shouldn't have to wait long for a patch...or even a modified browser Apk to shield the exploit....
Meanwhile....Samsung is hard at work patching the issue on their end.
What I'm worried about, is the possibility that an official update will be pushed out, and to get it, we would need a return to stock option until our devs can patch around the problem ...g
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Thanks for thanks, heads up, & info.. Cheers! & cheers to DAGr8 for Saurom 2.3.6! Hehehe, it was the first ROM I loaded my Note, and even after testing my share of ICS & JB builds, it's still my daily driver - go to ROM, due to it's combination of stability, decent speed, built in line recording, and the ability to add in ad-hoc wifi support. Yikes... getting off topic.
As far as the USSD exploit goes, I'm not at all worried about having to revert to stock to patch or even the actual exploit hitting my Note, due to regular CWM backups, the extremely low odds of it actually happening, and faith in all the incredible developers. My concerns are mainly for the other xda members or anyone with an exploitable system, as I'm sure yours are too. Anyway, like you, I'm betting a patch will be available soon.
Best to all,
R
rhacy said:
Thanks for thanks, heads up, & info.. Cheers! & cheers to DAGr8 for Saurom 2.3.6! Hehehe, it was the first ROM I loaded my Note, and even after testing my share of ICS & JB builds, it's still my daily driver - go to ROM, due to it's combination of stability, decent speed, built in line recording, and the ability to add in ad-hoc wifi support. Yikes... getting off topic.
As far as the USSD exploit goes, I'm not at all worried about having to revert to stock to patch or even the actual exploit hitting my Note, due to regular CWM backups, the extremely low odds of it actually happening, and faith in all the incredible developers. My concerns are mainly for the other xda members or anyone with an exploitable system, as I'm sure yours are too. Anyway, like you, I'm betting a patch will be available soon.
Best to all,
R
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Agreed .....it will be fixed soon I'm sure ...
And you bring up an excellent point ...that is ...users must run regular backups for just such an occasion.
And I've seen countless users fail to backup anything at all..
And then are left starting over from scratch if something goes wrong like this bug.....g
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Agreed .....it will be fixed soon I'm sure ...
And you bring up an excellent point ...that is ...users must run regular backups for just such an occasion.
And I've seen countless users fail to backup anything at all..
And then are left starting over from scratch if something goes wrong like this bug.....g
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Yes... completely agree... current backups are a must have, especially for any mission critical device, and everyone should backup on a regular basis regardless. Even if it's just to save the time and trouble of having to set up from scratch again. Heck, it's mandatory for me to have current completely cloned spare drives for my laptops etc..., and on as well as off device complete backups for smartphones etc... just in case some type of system failure, data loss, or data corruption occurs. Plus, as they say, time is money, and backups have saved myself as well as millions of others plenty of both in the long run.
Best to all,
R
Erik Thauvin recently released an app (available for free on Google Play) that stops the USSD code from automatically being dialed. The app is called noUSSD and is free.
I am not associated with the developer and am only passing along what I found in my search.
Thanks,
ptgptg said:
Erik Thauvin recently released an app (available for free on Google Play) that stops the USSD code from automatically being dialed. The app is called noUSSD and is free.
I am not associated with the developer and am only passing along what I found in my search.
Thanks,
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There you have it folks .....the first of many fixes ...
Many thanks for posting ....g
i was just curious if someone can get me a list of apps that can be unistalled for faster performance on MeanBean without bricking anything. i dont use most the stock apps but am unsure of which ones i can do without ie...News and weather....email..... sprint music.... stuff like that im not sure if i can get rid of them without something else suffering. thank you in advance.
Robisgnarly said:
i was just curious if someone can get me a list of apps that can be unistalled for faster performance on MeanBean without bricking anything. i dont use most the stock apps but am unsure of which ones i can do without ie...News and weather....email..... sprint music.... stuff like that im not sure if i can get rid of them without something else suffering. thank you in advance.
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Try using an app freezer first then if there's no negative impact un install frozen app. Of course do a back up of each app incase there's a problem later. That way you don't have to reflash rom.
Titanium backup
System tuner
This is the most recent list for Sense I could locate for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197265
If you're flashing ROM's with some regularity, I do. And I don't feel like removing apps from the zip. Here is an app that makes it simple to do after the fact: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32849928
You could also set up ROM Cleaner to take care of it for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832162
Hope that helps
really just looking to get rid of the garbage, like news and weather i don't believe sense uses them besides the widget which i delete anyway.
Robisgnarly said:
really just looking to get rid of the garbage, like news and weather i don't believe sense uses them besides the widget which i delete anyway.
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+1 for RomCleaner
Sent from my PoS MoPho
will Rom cleaner work with the latest firmware and twrp 2.4? if so ill give it a go. just since my last battle with the newest firmware and touch screen issues have been hesitant about anything
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will Rom cleaner work with the latest firmware and twrp 2.4? if so ill give it a go. just since my last battle with the newest firmware and touch screen issues have been hesitant about anything
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Yes I just tested an upcoming version for them just the other day, all my firmware is up to date
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Wow. ROM Cleaner is the shiz. I made my own NO-Sense_user.txt file and was able to trim off almost 100 apps(starting apps count from MeanBean).
care to post that list?
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care to post that list?
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Just get the NO-Sense_user.txt from here and use Notepad++ to customize it just remove the # from anything you want to remove
I could if you'd like but it would be better to edit one for yourself as I probably have A LOT of things deleted that you might want to keep and might have kept a lot of what you want deleted. It's really simple to edit as you are only putting in or taking out a # sign.