Hello All!
I bought a Galaxy Note I717 from Kijiji this week and was wondering about something.
When I take the battery out of the phone, the sticker says: SGH-I717M (that's Bell Canada hardware)
But when I turn on the phone, the first image that appears shows: SGH-I717R (that's Rogers software)
I have rooted, and tried several ROMs so far and I still get the initial screen showing up as SGH-I717R.
So my question is, how do I get rid of that initial screen or change it to another carrier, such as Bell?
Thanks!
dubsteps said:
Hello All!
I bought a Galaxy Note I717 from Kijiji this week and was wondering about something.
When I take the battery out of the phone, the sticker says: SGH-I717M (that's Bell Canada hardware)
But when I turn on the phone, the first image that appears shows: SGH-I717R (that's Rogers software)
I have rooted, and tried several ROMs so far and I still get the initial screen showing up as SGH-I717R.
So my question is, how do I get rid of that initial screen or change it to another carrier, such as Bell?
Thanks!
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Does it actually bother you?
I can live with it. I was curious to find out if someone knew of a fix for it.
Thanks
I see I wouldn't worry about it. Load up a Paranoid ROM on it and enjoy your phone. You'll hardly reboot ur phone anyways.
If you install non rooted stock bell firmware with bell kernel and modem, it will change your boot screen to I717M.
Well, Your forum heading asks about hardware screen replacement compatibility, lil confusion there.
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The only way to change back is by flashing an Odin firmware of bell you can get them on Sammobile.com
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I don't mean to hijack this thread, but I have a question that is (somewhat) relevant. My Note is the SGH-I717R, for Rogers. Am I allowed to flash At&T Note ROMs for my device? In other words, does the "R" make a difference? Thanks in advance.
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Alright so ill start this of by saying, Picked up my note today and loving it so far. Got it rooted thanks to Da G and getting ready to get into roms.
Anyway im making this thread to see if anyone else has tried anything out on the non-AT&T notes(i.e I717M and what not). So far from what i have read people are developing mostly for the AT&T model and saying its not for bell rogers or telus. Now I have been in the samsung world for a while and when it comes to my galaxy there was always ways around this.
For instance most of my ROMs were made for the international version not my bell version. But as long as I kept a copy of the bell modem on my phone i could just flash that and the ROM worked great. So does anyone have a copy of the bell telus or rogers modem for the note? or know if there all the same?
Another example in the galaxy s world was the captivate(Same soft keys as our phones). A person with a captivate could flash an international ROM as long they made a soft key fix when they developed the ROM.
One of the main reasons I ask all of this is because i see so many N7000 ROMs up and running and am wondering what will and wont work.
Look forward to hearing from you all
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For instance most of my ROMs were made for the international version not my bell version. But as long as I kept a copy of the bell modem on my phone i could just flash that and the ROM worked great. So does anyone have a copy of the bell telus or rogers modem for the note? or know if there all the same?
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you can get all the carrier radio/modem, and even the kernel from carrier here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506212
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and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630843
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sorry, I also forgot this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589389
Bell note here. Been. The at & t roms with no problem.
The only issue that I have is the Yellow Pages crap that appears in my contact list as well as at& t bloat depending on the rom. Easy enough to deal with though.
Aside from that, it's been perfect.
Currently on Team Perfection 4.0.4.
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I forgot to add that I haven't had any issues with data speeds at all.
Also, Don't venture into the N7000 roms because they will not work.
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The N7000 ROMs can hard brick your phone since the hardware if the two models are completely different. AS Far as ROMs go, most are based off the AT&T software simply because that's the only ICS leak we have available. But you can use any ROM for the i717 on your Bell Note. I have a Bell Note and flashed almost every ROM and never ran into any problems. Also, Ruth the help ofa lot of people on this sure, I've made stock images of the Bell, Telus, and Rogers Notes so we can always go back. Best if luck and don't hesitate to ask anything.
Thanks for the info, I get mine today and was wondering the same thing.
Yesterday I flashed my Rogers Branded Galaxy i717 with Bell Rom and Kernel and have not 1 issue. I chose to flash the rogers i717 with Bell because I use bell mobiletv and this was the only way to get this particular app to work. Again not 1 issue with data or anything else.
No Rooted device either. Just flashed using ODIN.
I'm currently running the UCLE2 Rom on my Rogers i717. I've noticed that I am not getting LTE where I should be. And GPS connectivity is shoddy at best.
I have a second i717 which is stock that is with me to compare (family member).
I am going to flash the Rogers modem to hopefully correct atleast the LTE issue. Anyone know if this would improve my GPS connectivity as well?
For a number of years I have been buying Canadian phones to use on ATT. Canadain ROMs have less restrictions than ATT. For instance tethering and NFC are not locked. Also after rooting my Roger's Note it took under a minute to remove the Rogers branding. (all except splash screen) I was left with a fully optioned unbranded ROM.
I did want to try the stock UCLE2 ROM out of curiosity but I thought it would not install because my phone was not an ATT I717. How did you install it eugenekim618? Personally I would rather wait for the Rogers ICS version. Keep checking everyday to see if it is available.
I have tried quite of a few of the ROMS on here with my Bell i717M, no problems at all so far, other than the "android.phone has stopped working" at startup, I don't know the cause but it only happens at boot.
DO NOT use N7000 roms! But all of the AT&T stuff has worked great for me.
Agoattamer said:
For a number of years I have been buying Canadian phones to use on ATT. Canadain ROMs have less restrictions than ATT. For instance tethering and NFC are not locked. Also after rooting my Roger's Note it took under a minute to remove the Rogers branding. (all except splash screen) I was left with a fully optioned unbranded ROM.
I did want to try the stock UCLE2 ROM out of curiosity but I thought it would not install because my phone was not an ATT I717. How did you install it eugenekim618? Personally I would rather wait for the Rogers ICS version. Keep checking everyday to see if it is available.
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I followed the posts in the Dev section to Root the phone.
Then installed CWM.
The picked a ROM I thought was good and followed the instructions in it's respective post to install.
I've done a lot of ROM installs for the Dell Streak I used to have and for a Sony Xperia X10.
So I am not totally unfamiliar with the process. Just a matter of getting used to the delivery method for each manufacturer. And then, dealing with the quirks of a ROM that is not 100% for your carrier. Goes with the territory, right?
I tried to read all the posts in a given thread as much as I can.
So you are saying you didn't install the one click odin stock UCLE2 ROM?
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So you are saying you didn't install the one click odin stock UCLE2 ROM?
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No, that doesn't work for non AT&T phones I believe. I tried it, and ODIN recognized the COM, but failed to install. From my readings, can't do the one click install on Rogers since it's not a Rogers ROM.
all custom roms should work no problem, ive flashed tons on my unlocked bell note.
its the stock odin files when you want to make sure you get the proper device.
Hey guys Ive flashed pretty much all the roms I can and some I cant lol. So far my experiances have encountered a few setbacks but nothing substantial and allot if not most of the bugs and glitchs occurring in the first & second gen of roms have been fixed or patched.
As far as roms go as was already mentioned as long as you stay away from n7000 model roms and stick to i727 youll be ok. With at&t roms I always seem to have signal and gps issues. Generally tho I find my signal problem will clear itself up on its own and I believe is actually just just caused by the fresh software 'settling in', even though my signal appears low or fluctuating speed testing always shows Im getting peak d/l & u/l speeds. If the signal doesnt seem to improve flashing the Bell stock modem via cwm always does the trick. Gps usually works great, very fast & accurate, when Im having location issues I use the 'faster fix' app from the market, I dont know about anyone elses experiance but allot of the times theres a problem the gps server isnt set to the normal 'north america pool' but servers Ive never seen before or set to an 'international pool'.
All in all besides signal headaches the only other recurring problems are the inherent and unpredictable random force closing of system apps. It can be pretty random but I find a few constant trouble makers to be at&t software update, android phone. At&t update can be disabled easily under applications in the main settings or I was able to actually remove it using 'rom toolbox's app manager but strangely not with root toolboxs remove system apps. For pretty much all other f/c problems the remedy is a running of 'fix permissions', there are a bunch of ways/apps to do it and Ive found using 'rom manager' works the best meanwhile rebooting into recovery and fixing permissions from there will actually cause more problems.
Ok so those are the most recurring and annoying issues Ive had to name a few but the list is too big to write merely because Ive tried just about every rom right from the sketchiest unstable first releases and everything in between lol so feel free to drop me line if your stuck on a problem cause I might be able to help.
But before I end this novel here lol I just flashed the new 'OnlyOne Beta2' rom from the development section and it runs great. The rom is super stable, very fast and features both fully functional S Voice app and fully functional S Notes app. If you havnt tried S Notes yet its awesome the new functions and abilities totally blew me away so I highly recommend you give this rom a try!
eugenekim618 said:
I'm currently running the UCLE2 Rom on my Rogers i717. I've noticed that I am not getting LTE where I should be. And GPS connectivity is shoddy at best.
I have a second i717 which is stock that is with me to compare (family member).
I am going to flash the Rogers modem to hopefully correct atleast the LTE issue. Anyone know if this would improve my GPS connectivity as well?
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If you had LTE before and lost it through flashing a custom ROM or whatever then try changing your APN to your Carrier LTE network. If you never had LTE when you bought your phone, probably the seller gave you a wrong sim. tell her to give you a 403 LTE capable sim, the 401 is only 4G.
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If you had LTE before and lost it through flashing a custom ROM or whatever then try changing your APN to your Carrier LTE network. If you never had LTE when you bought your phone, probably the seller gave you a wrong sim. tell her to give you a 403 LTE capable sim, the 401 is only 4G.
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Thanks for the tip. But I got everything running again. I did have LTE to start, and have a LTE sim card. The *#2263* certainly helped. And Flapjaxxx's GPS tools in his ROM helped me get the GPS back up to par.
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Thanks for the tip. But I got everything running again. I did have LTE to start, and have a LTE sim card. The *#2263* certainly helped. And Flapjaxxx's GPS tools in his ROM helped me get the GPS back up to par.
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ok now I just lost my LTE after flashing new ROM from Seraphim Stratosphere. How did you get it back. I factory wipe everything and flash Rogers modem and it doesn't work. How did you manage to get LTE back? btw I have a Canadian Note with Rogers. the Saurom ROM was canadian and I had LTE too.
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ok now I just lost my LTE after flashing new ROM from Seraphim Stratosphere. How did you get it back. I factory wipe everything and flash Rogers modem and it doesn't work. How did you manage to get LTE back? btw I have a Canadian Note with Rogers. the Saurom ROM was canadian and I had LTE too.
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Try *#2263#
Then force select LTE, and select ALL. That should force the LTE connection. So watch the connection bars. You should see a loss of connection, then reconnect on LTE. Once that is established, do the code again, and just select automatic.
eugenekim618 said:
Try *#2263#
Then force select LTE, and select ALL. That should force the LTE connection. So watch the connection bars. You should see a loss of connection, then reconnect on LTE. Once that is established, do the code again, and just select automatic.
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When I try dialing it, it says error can't find USSP or something like that... What does this mean?
Just to be clear that im doing the right thing. I go to the dialer and punch the code *#2263#. How do I "force select LTE"? will something popup for me to select it or should I go to settings/ wireless and networks... I don't have those options in "wireless settings", I only have APN settings...
Hi All,
I am a newbie here and I am not sure if my question makes any sense. Couple weeks back, I bought an Atrix 4g (US version), an unlocked version (the seller told me that this phone is unlocked using AT&T code) and I am using it with Vodafone (India) sim. It works perfectly and so far I didnt face any problems with this phone. But last week, I got an alert in my phone saying that software update (2.3.4.5.141) is available for AT&T users and enable wifi to download. However, I didnt download and install the update as I was not sure why is it saying the update is available only for AT&T users. Also wherever I read about this software udpate, the name 'AT&T users' comes along with that.
So my doubt here is, what will happen if I, who is not an AT&T user, download and install the software update in my phone ? will it cause any issues in the phone (like getting locked again or bricking the phone)
I have not done any modification like rooting or installing custom ROM and things like that and I am using the phone as I recieved it.
Thanks in advance for your help.
-Qaddaffi
I would personally NOT update the phone since the update would probably relock the phone for the ATT carrier. The update is great I heard.
By the way, when you boot up the phone, does the phone say unlocked in the top left corner of the screen on the Motorola dual core screen?
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I've even heard people saying that updating using AT&T, from any rom with an unlocked bootloader, can cause bricks. I wouldn't update under any circumstances.
I hear people are having problems with the 2.3.6 AT&T update anyways, like APN/mobile network issues.
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I've even heard people saying that updating using AT&T, from any rom with an unlocked bootloader, can cause bricks. I wouldn't update under any circumstances.
I hear people are having problems with the 2.3.6 AT&T update anyways, like APN/mobile network issues.
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The phone the op means is unlocked by carrier not bootloader.
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I believe that the update does not block your phone. The chip lock, as far as I know, is independent of the device firmware update. In your case, I would upgrade.
Voelker45 said:
The phone the op means is unlocked by carrier not bootloader.
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Oh, my bad. I think I realized that later. Sorry.
If the guy/girl you got the phone from stated they used an "AT&T" code, it might have been unlocked the official way, through AT&T, meaning you wouldn't have any problems updating. Just note that if you update, you may have problems like other people are having. I'm not sure if AT&T's fixed it, or if the problems were from the official update even. It may have been a beta build. I don't know.
I'd say go for it. Just note that rooting might be a problem after you update, if you decide to root it later. I'm not sure if we have a method of rooting for it yet. (I can't look it up right now, sorry)
I heard that firmware updates come from the carriers. I have an unlocked rogers Galaxy note. However, im using a telus sim.
will i get the ICS?
Thanks for any help
Flip a coin and let us know how it comes up.
It isn't even out for the International version of the Note. That will come first. Then each carrier has to customize it. That will take some time. Holding your breath is not recommended.
Uh go ask Telus. Only good way to find out. Or even better call, cause store representatives are sometimes incorrect.
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If you keep it stock, I am sure when Rogers ICS drops, you can download and flash the official update.
If you are rooted, chances are, you will get it sooner.
Hello guys just wanted to know how to debrand the note from bell as it is running a little slugishh and i also want to remove all the bell apps without rooting thanks for the help...
What do you mean Debrand it? It litterally has no branding. You're talking about changing the firmware?
It does have branding likeee all the bell apps and stuff all the extra stuff...
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Just the word that you used is odd, because branding literally means to "mark" something, or it means a certain type. So automatically when I read the title I was thinking you wanted to remove a carrier logo branded on the phone which it clearly doesn't have.
Anyhow, I digress.
To remove all that just root, get Titanium backup and remove all pre-loaded apps you don't want. This topic has already been discussed and you shouldn't have trouble finding out how to remove those apps.
Check the development section and you'll find more information there.
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Like i said i dont want to root...is there a way to straight flash a official galaxy note update which isnt from a carrier?
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There hasnt been any update yet. We are all patiently awaiting ICS. (Which will come from our carriers.) The only way I can see you getting rid of the bell bloatware is to either Root the phone and freeze those apps with TiBu. Or Flash a Rom which still requires rooting. Dude if you want them gone you're gonna need to root. However I could be wrong there may be a flashable Odin files that get rid of all the bloatware. Im not sure. Go look in development. I just don't know how to tell you any other way. Also don't know if you know this but the International Version is not tied to any Carrier, You can look into that if you're not happy with the Bell one. I also forgot to mention, I have one on Rogers and Bell. The Rogers one seems to be slightly faster. But I only have 2 to compare so I dunno. Maybe you can always sitch carrier if your contract is new.
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There hasnt been any update yet. We are all patiently awaiting ICS. (Which will come from our carriers.) The only way I can see you getting rid of the bell bloatware is to either Root the phone and freeze those apps with TiBu. Or Flash a Rom which still requires rooting. Dude if you want them gone you're gonna need to root. However I could be wrong there may be a flashable Odin files that get rid of all the bloatware. Im not sure. Go look in development. I just don't know how to tell you any other way. Also don't know if you know this but the International Version is not tied to any Carrier, You can look into that if you're not happy with the Bell one. I also forgot to mention, I have one on Rogers and Bell. The Rogers one seems to be slightly faster. But I only have 2 to compare so I dunno. Maybe you can always sitch carrier if your contract is new.
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I know you do not want to root my man but I will pay you $30 right now to upload the Bell stock system and then you can go right back to the unrooted version. I am desperate!! No Wi-fi hotspot, no NFC, S Planner, AT&T sucks!!
Yea waiting for ics is unpredictable now...
And like u said rogers note is faster thats why i want to debrand it i used my friends rogers note n there is a good differencee i got this from bell but got it unlocked cause i am with rogers so even if i can Get rogers firmware that would be fine too just need to find a wayy...
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Rooting is your only way afaik with Bell and Rogers. My Telus Note came with ZERO Telus bloatware and I mean ZERO unless I missed something. Luckily, in Canada, Telus, Rogers and Bell did not put their name on the Note like how AT&T removed the Samsung name and used AT&T up on top of the phone. Also WIFI Hotspot (tethering) option is there and not removed. I use tethering all the time to tether to my tablet and several of my Sony Vaios. Lastly, NFC is there and is working.
So I managed to flash my galaxy s ii the other day because I was having issues with my internet and wanted to find out if it was samsungs firmware causing the issue, or the phone, or just at&t.
Well long story short, it flashed fine, but same horrible speeds. At this point I want to take the things back to at&t and tell them to give me a new one, but obviously the second they see it rooted they wont help anymore.
So I went into the boot menu and told it to restore, that seems to work fine, but then when it tries to make calls there is no sound at all not even a dial tone, but everything else seems to work fine.
I had this issue with several other roms also. I tried finding the at&t samsung gingerbread firmware for my device, but all I can find is firmware for other countries.
Is there an U.S AT&T gingerbread firmware/roms for the galaxy s ii on here that I somehow missed? Thanks.
Also mine appears to be a GT-i19100, I saw some info about reflashing it but all of them had like letter at the end of the model and I dont see that anywhere on mine.
Actually I pulled the battery and it appears its a SGH-I777, so I guess im in the wrong thread, sorry
Darcw0lf said:
So I managed to flash my galaxy s ii the other day because I was having issues with my internet and wanted to find out if it was samsungs firmware causing the issue, or the phone, or just at&t.
Well long story short, it flashed fine, but same horrible speeds. At this point I want to take the things back to at&t and tell them to give me a new one, but obviously the second they see it rooted they wont help anymore.
So I went into the boot menu and told it to restore, that seems to work fine, but then when it tries to make calls there is no sound at all not even a dial tone, but everything else seems to work fine.
I had this issue with several other roms also. I tried finding the at&t samsung gingerbread firmware for my device, but all I can find is firmware for other countries.
Is there an U.S AT&T gingerbread firmware/roms for the galaxy s ii on here that I somehow missed? Thanks.
Also mine appears to be a GT-i19100, I saw some info about reflashing it but all of them had like letter at the end of the model and I dont see that anywhere on mine.
Actually I pulled the battery and it appears its a SGH-I777, so I guess im in the wrong thread, sorry
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Www.sammobile.com
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So I went to the link, followed the guide on the site and it didnt work. When I open up odin and hit start it does nothing. I tried using the zip file in the boot menu to install the rom and that didnt work either, just failed.
I eventually went into recovery mode and this worked, but at the boot screen I still have the yellow exclamation mark and it says I9100, is there any way to get rid of that?
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So I went to the link, followed the guide on the site and it didnt work. When I open up odin and hit start it does nothing. I tried using the zip file in the boot menu to install the rom and that didnt work either, just failed.
I eventually went into recovery mode and this worked, but at the boot screen I still have the yellow exclamation mark and it says I9100, is there any way to get rid of that?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22462960
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oh gawd, tooo much for gingerbread, think I will try throwing ics back on it and do it that way, thank you very much for the info though. Helped alot
Darcw0lf said:
oh gawd, tooo much for gingerbread, think I will try throwing ics back on it and do it that way, thank you very much for the info though. Helped alot
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Root and install rootbox.. You won't be disappointed
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Im actually using phone bricker, lol. Was the only one I could get everything to work with, including the back button on my phone.
Darcw0lf said:
Im actually using phone bricker, lol. Was the only one I could get everything to work with, including the back button on my phone.
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In any case you'd probably be better off sticking to i777 ROMs.
Im actually more confused than I was before, I actually just switched from AT&T to tmobile. Now my phone can make calls fine, but I cant get on a data network.
Any clue why?
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Im actually more confused than I was before, I actually just switched from AT&T to tmobile. Now my phone can make calls fine, but I cant get on a data network.
Any clue why?
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You still using the i777?
My guess is that your APNs are still set to AT&T.
Also, even if you do get mobile data working, you'll probably be limited to Edge speeds since the two networks use different frequencies for mobile data.
ctomgee said:
You still using the i777?
My guess is that your APNs are still set to AT&T.
Also, even if you do get mobile data working, you'll probably be limited to Edge speeds since the two networks use different frequencies for mobile data.
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And thats something that cant be changed? I learned a long time ago to take what sales people say with a grain of salt, they were telling me since both the tmobile galaxy s 2 and the at&t version are both 4g phones it will work if flashed right.
But then again they didnt even know what data throttling is
I found a section in my phone in the mobile network settings for network operators, and tmobile is listed, once they finally port my number over in 24 hours I will give that a shot and see if it works. Other wise I will probably be buying the htc one.
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And thats something that cant be changed? I learned a long time ago to take what sales people say with a grain of salt, they were telling me since both the tmobile galaxy s 2 and the at&t version are both 4g phones it will work if flashed right.
But then again they didnt even know what data throttling is
I found a section in my phone in the mobile network settings for network operators, and tmobile is listed, once they finally port my number over in 24 hours I will give that a shot and see if it works. Other wise I will probably be buying the htc one.
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Nope can't be changed on the i777. The i727 can apparently be flashed to work on T-mobile's 4g, but not the i777. It's a hardware issue.