I thought i would make post detailing all the possible ways to use our xperia nfc phones for payment and if we can get Google Wallet to work
Method A) UK- In the UK the Orange quick tap app has been released for the galaxy s3, this may be expanded to other NFC phones soon
(dont know about anyother countries but if anyone knows then ill add the info
Method B) Google Wallet
So this is what i know so far i think this is all correct
There is a secure element in our phones
The wallet app does not appear in the app drawer (not sure why exactly) I tried defrosting it however it does not appear in titanium backup
A older version of the app does appear AND launches however only when NFC is turned off when it is turned on it crashes
Reasons for the app not working could possibly be because the nfc libs are not all there or are modified. This was a problem for other phones but is fixable by replacing the libs *i think*
I do not know how the app behaves under cm9 or cm10 or under Kangs jellybean port because my bootloader is not unlocked so could anyone try ?[/SIZE][/SIZE]
anouj said:
I thought i would make post detailing all the possible ways to use our xperia nfc phones for payment and if we can get Google Wallet to work
Method A) UK- In the UK the Orange quick tap app has been released for the galaxy s3, this may be expanded to other NFC phones soon
(dont know about anyother countries but if anyone knows then ill add the info
Method B) Google Wallet
So this is what i know so far i think this is all correct
There is a secure element in our phones
The wallet app does not appear in the app drawer (not sure why exactly) I tried defrosting it however it does not appear in titanium backup
A older version of the app does appear AND launches however only when NFC is turned off when it is turned on it crashes
Reasons for the app not working could possibly be because the nfc libs are not all there or are modified. This was a problem for other phones but is fixable by replacing the libs *i think*
I do not know how the app behaves under cm9 or cm10 or under Kangs jellybean port because my bootloader is not unlocked so could anyone try ?[/SIZE][/SIZE]
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I managed to get hold of the quick tap wallet apk, it installs perfectly on my Xperia S, however when you launch it, it brings a message asking for a NFC sim, which orange won't provide as yet
dannclose said:
I managed to get hold of the quick tap wallet apk, it installs perfectly on my Xperia S, however when you launch it, it brings a message asking for a NFC sim, which orange won't provide as yet
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In Singapore, you need to change to nfc SIM first. Services provided are dependant on the Teleco. 1 of them only have ezlink function(a card for trains, bus etc), while another teleco provide master card service.
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anouj said:
Method B) Google Wallet
So this is what i know so far i think this is all correct
There is a secure element in our phones
The wallet app does not appear in the app drawer (not sure why exactly) I tried defrosting it however it does not appear in titanium backup
A older version of the app does appear AND launches however only when NFC is turned off when it is turned on it crashes
Reasons for the app not working could possibly be because the nfc libs are not all there or are modified. This was a problem for other phones but is fixable by replacing the libs *i think*
I do not know how the app behaves under cm9 or cm10 or under Kangs jellybean port because my bootloader is not unlocked so could anyone try ?[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]
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Yeah I've been trying for the last 2 days to get GWallet working with no success. All the modded versions don't install and the real version installs fine but errors with "This device is not supported"
Have put the question up on Modaco where Paul made the modded version but have yet to receive a response.
Started a thread here in the apps section but just got silly comments back unfortunately.
Would love to get it working
Bootloader ???
Does anyone have an unlockable bootloader and are able to try the app on cm9 or cm10 ?
since beginning of November in Poland (t-mobile and orange) has started nfc payments. xperia s is supported.
i'll write more when i'll test it
I've just got a Barclaycard RFID chip stuck on the back of my Xperia S
it works! and it works perfectly!
i can choose between different cards and banks, I can set default card and pay without unlocking my phone...
in local shops, when walking or riding a bike I dont have to remember and take care of my wallet...
soon it should be an ability to buy a ticket to the cinema, theatre, match etc thr the phone and then just use nfc to enter that places...
i hope NFC will expand
How have they implemented it? Do you need a special SIM for it or using the stock NFC chips on the Xperia?
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one have to switches micro sim card to nfc micro sim (free for me), then one receives an app MyWallet where you can set bank's cards, default card, preferences, security. and that's all. if you set default card you can pay when the phone is locked or even turned off (battery can't be empty)...
components:
1) SIM NFC;
2) MyWallet app;
3) NFC controller;
4) Wallet management server
some videos:
ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-srLh5gEM8&feature=youtu.be&noredirect=1
how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoJp1IR3Isg&feature=player_embedded
in reality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L4f49v1kBE&feature=player_embedded
Yeah I thought so. That means nothing turns do with Xperia really. I'm jealous all the same
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well, it does. it works only with NFC phones and uses phone's NFC chip... NFC SIM is security reason
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But it seems it's not compatible with my 3g flyer. Anyone know a way around this? Is the apk floating around somewhere?
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I had to install it on my phone, register it. then back it up with TB and restore using TB on my Flyer. THEN it worked, otherwise it would just force close on startup.
oh interesting. I just got force closes after installing apk and gave up...will give titanium backup a go. Guess I have a reason to root now!
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If you have a 3G Flyer and can not see certain apps on the market, it is due to carrier/country limitations.
First, I advise you save your desktop theme (or it will reset to default HTC, as when you bought it)
Borrow a US or European SIM card from someone (if you don't already have one) , shut down and then insert it into the Flyer.
You will be asked to confirm your Google password and then when you go to the market, it will be open.
Soz to the WiFi only guys, this is something that will not work for you until PPTP VPN is working for Android so you can fake your location..(or does anyone think that's WHY, PPTP encrypted has never worked... Hmmm)
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If you have a 3G Flyer and can not see certain apps on the market, it is due to carrier/country limitations.
First, I advise you save your desktop theme (or it will reset to default HTC, as when you bought it)
Borrow a US or European SIM card from someone (if you don't already have one) , shut down and then insert it into the Flyer.
You will be asked to confirm your Google password and then when you go to the market, it will be open.
Soz to the WiFi only guys, this is something that will not work for you until PPTP VPN is working for Android so you can fake your location..(or does anyone think that's WHY, PPTP encrypted has never worked... Hmmm)
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Sorry that is simply not true. I have the 3g flyer with a US sim and I am in the US and I don't see the full market. MANY Alps are missing, including viber.
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Sorry that is simply not true. I have the 3g flyer with a US sim and I am in the US and I don't see the full market. MANY Alps are missing, including viber.
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It is true as far as the country/carrier situation (or did you not read my post! I can use sign language if you wish. )
You may be in the US (country) but your carrier may not allow viber to be listed as it is a voip package and they would lose their nice call profits.
If an app still does not show no matter what country/carrier, then that is down to the actual developer not having approved your device in the compatibility list. Either there is a real compatibility problem or he just ain't got around to it yet.
Don't moan if you sideload it and it screws your device....
Here and there I see people report that they've successfully scanned some cards with an NFC-enabled ROM. I've never had any luck, even coming off fresh wipe/installs (no themes or anything).
I know Google Wallet won't work, I just want to test it out.
If you've had it working, post what ROM, kernel, and app you used--please!
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Here and there I see people report that they've successfully scanned some cards with an NFC-enabled ROM. I've never had any luck, even coming off fresh wipe/installs (no themes or anything).
I know Google Wallet won't work, I just want to test it out.
If you've had it working, post what ROM, kernel, and app you used--please!
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I used NFC TagInfo, works on VillainROM Hellraised, should work on Unnamed.
Note that on I9100 Hellraised ROMs, you must be in the TagInfo app when tapping the card. If you are not, the NFC service may force close due to permissions issues with many cards. (A Mastercard PayPass credit card doesn't cause an FC, an NFC Type 2 card with NDEF data will.)
I'm running Unamed and used the app "tag info" and about 6 other ones lol they all worked without me having to be in the app I held my card near the phone, the furthest being ~3 inches, and it still read it lol just wish I could test it out some kind of way at a store.
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Hmm. I'm almost certain I tried it out on VillainROM a couple of days ago when I Hellraised it just for the....err, hell of it. I've tried TagInfo and NFC TagInfo. Maybe I just don't have any readable cards.
Yeah, compared to the dark times of my Nexus S, there was barely any NFC apps worth mentioning. Now that I'm a proud owner of the Note 2, I'm seeking for a good app. There's just so many in the market when I search for NFC. What NFC app is everyone here using to satisfy your NFC needs?
For now, I'm just using thr stock apps. I flashed Omega V4 earlier, and I've realised I can receive files using Wifi-Direct but I can't send them. So, I'm having to use an alternative app.... Small issues aside; I love thisbphone, NFC is awesome.
Anytag launcher is a great one, doesn't need u to write on a chip as it works with even read only tags, and u can configure it to your needs accordingly.
This is my first nfc enabled device, so I'm not that much of an expert in it,
hope it helps though.
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Nfc task launcher.
Tapatalkteando desde mi móvil.
NFC Task Launcher - this is the best one in my view, works easily and never had it fail.
AnyTAG NFC - as stated above, this works for ANY NFC tag. (eg, I have it so that when I hold my phone to be credit card it starts my banking app)
RemoteStick - turning on my living lights by putting my phone on the coffee table..
InstaWifi - connects to a wifi network by tag - had this installed before and still use the tags from it, but NFC Task Launcher can do the same thing.
I'm keeping my eyes open for more NFC apps. Will definitely be keeping my eye on this thread
Hi,
I'm on XXELK rom, the polish 4.1.2, rooted with CF 6.4 and CWM touch, Siyah kernel v1.8.6, some tweaks added via STweaks (little bit of undervolting, GPU too etc.), and a little modding here and there (really, just 3 things: 23 toggles mod, 3 way boot + crt off + multiview for any app).
I froze some apps such as messaging, internet, all share cast, sammy's own bloatware I never use.
Anyway, NFC works just fine, it clicks right away when back to back with my Nexus 7 or another S3, beams content and whatsoever, except for 1 app: NFC Postemobile.
This is a relatively new app by the Italian MVNO, which uses their own new SIM that has a prepaid (rechargeable) MasterCard included, for making payments just as Google Wallet works.
As a matter of fact, back with ICS, I had a GW modded apk on my S3 and it worked like a charm (well, while the $10 lasted, as it couldn't be recharged), so no problem with payments either.
Now, all this app does is let you click on a "Activate Payment" button, gives you 60 seconds to do the magic with the PayPass thing, and it supposed to give you either a "success, €2,00 paid by PayPass" message or an error message.
Well, I tried and retried (thanks, McDonalds guys ), but the app seems to do nothing when activated and placed anyway (believe me, I tried in ANY way) on the POS(with Google Wallet there was an instant *beep* and the payment was made).
Is there any way to find out if this is an error within the app, or if I broke the NFC communication in some way by modding something? Can I try anywhere else (possibly without losing money on the prepaid card ) to see if the app actually triggers the NFC chip or not?
If you read till now, thank you. If you have a solution, thank you 1000 times. :victory:
P.s. I have 2 original NFC batteries, tried both, no luck. Also, NFC works perfectly on my Samsung TecTiles, meaning it's not broken...
Please guys, nobody?
I'm here trying to figure out the problem, and since NFC communication works in any other app I guess it's just an app issue, but several others on the market seem to have it working...
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Today I reverted back to XXELK with no mods at all, just for the sake of trying, but the app doesn't work anyway.
Isn't there a way to, with another NFC phone or tablet, "intercept" the NFC signal sent from the phone (if any) while I click on "activate payment"?
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Post 24: Instructions on how to get NFC on a rooted, modified stock rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49936544
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As of today RBC Mobile in Canada now supports NFC payments with your Samsung Galaxy S3 and S4,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rbc.mobile.android&hl=en
What's New
Mobile payment capabilities available for Bell Mobility NFC-enabled Samsung Galaxy S III‡ or Samsung Galaxy S4‡ smartphones. If you’re on Android OS 4.3+ or want additional information, go to http://goo.gl/lGzGgR
The RBC Wallet powered by RBC Secure CloudTM lets you add, manage and store your Client Card and Visa credit cards and be able to make payments.
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Setting up your RBC Wallet
-What do I need to start using the RBC Wallet?
Check out "Getting Started" under How to Use for details on setting up your RBC Wallet.
-What cards can I add to my RBC Wallet?
Currently you are able to add your eligible RBC Visa‡ credit cards and your Client Card (Interac‡ Debit) to your RBC Wallet. You will be able to add additional cards to the RBC Wallet in the future.
-Will I need a new SIM to use the RBC Wallet?
Yes, you will need to change your SIM card to a Bell NFC SIM card. Visit bell.ca/NFC for more information.
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Do I need to have a data connection in order to make a transaction?
Yes, a data connection is required to download the app, set-up your card information and use the application.
The RBC Wallet does not appear to be working for me. What do I do?
If you are experiencing technical problems with the RBC Wallet please call 1-800-769-2555. They will provide assistance to identify the potential problem.
I have installed the RBC Mobile app but I can't see my card in the RBC Wallet, what should I do?
If you do not see your card in the RBC Wallet it may not be eligible. You must have a personal RBC debit or credit card to use the RBC Wallet. To discuss, please call 1-800-769-2512.
Check out "Getting Started" under How to Use for the list of eligible credit cards.
I plan to cancel my smartphone service and I have the RBC Wallet on my smartphone, what should I do?
Before cancelling a smartphone service it is best to remove all credit cards from your RBC Wallet, disable your debit card, and uninstall the RBC Mobile app. If you have already cancelled your service you can remove cards by using a WiFi network.
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OK here is what they DONT TELL YOU!!
I called bell to ask if i have an NFC SIM. NO.
NO CANADIAN BELL USER HAS BEEN GIVEN AN NFC SIM WITH THEIR PHONE. YOU MUST GO TO BELL STORE TO GET A FREE SIM UPGRADE.
ALSO. the guy at bell said they have a notice from RBC telling users to go to:
http://www.rbcroyalbank.com/mobile/wallet/nfc-update/
and fill out the form, and an RBC agent will contact you and arrange a push update to your NFC SIM to enable RBC wallet to work.
I am running a SGS4 from bell running a 4.4.2 google edition rom (by danvdh), with build.prop edited back to my original model number from bell.
I just got back from the bell store and have my NFC sim installed. I have the new RBC app installed.
The new card option on first page of RBC app (seen in screenshots from RBC site) is not visible on my device.
I have filled out the form and am waiting for a call back, i imagine this push update will enable the missing button in RBC app.
will update with more information as it comes available.
ONE WEIRD THING...
since i installed my NFC SIM, my phone is telling me i have a voicemail that does not exist. wont go away.
Yeah!... I been at it for the last 4 hours... LOL Took an hour just to figure out weather or not my SIM Card was an NFC enabled card or not. According to the Bell website that is linked to the RBC app, all S4 phones were shipped with NFC cards. Then to find out from a Bell rep. after talking with 4 different people from *611 that could FINALLY speak proper English, that I had to swap out SIM. and then to find out teh provisioning had to be re sent to SIM card to enable the NFC (6Th call) THEN a call to RBC to find out others are having the same issue with the Wallet option not showing up. I was informed that there must be an issue with Googple Play and they way it is being distributed (maybe a permissions issue) or something to that effect. So, from trying to get a decent English speaking Bell rep, to actually finding somebody that was able to help, and at that, she had to spend at least 20 minutes reading literature that nobody was trained on, to getting in contact with RBC, too.. well.. still no working app the way it should be... me thinks it wasn't ready to be launched yet!!
TRusselo said:
As of today RBC Mobile in Canada now supports NFC payments with your Samsung Galaxy S3 and S4,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rbc.mobile.android&hl=en
OK here is what they DONT TELL YOU!!
I called bell to ask if i have an NFC SIM. NO.
NO CANADIAN BELL USER HAS BEEN GIVEN AN NFC SIM WITH THEIR PHONE. YOU MUST GO TO BELL STORE TO GET A FREE SIM UPGRADE.
ALSO. the guy at bell said they have a notice from RBC telling users to go to:
http://www.rbcroyalbank.com/mobile/wallet/nfc-update/
and fill out the form, and an RBC agent will contact you and arrange a push update to your NFC SIM to enable RBC wallet to work.
I am running a SGS4 from bell running a 4.4.2 google edition rom (by danvdh), with build.prop edited back to my original model number from bell.
I just got back from the bell store and have my NFC sim installed. I have the new RBC app installed.
The new card option on first page of RBC app (seen in screenshots from RBC site) is not visible on my device.
I have filled out the form and am waiting for a call back, i imagine this push update will enable the missing button in RBC app.
will update with more information as it comes available.
ONE WEIRD THING...
since i installed my NFC SIM, my phone is telling me i have a voicemail that does not exist. wont go away.
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my first call last night = informed white dude. read above.
told ya, NO phone has been shipped with NFC SIM. oh and NFC sims SAY NFC on them!
could you give more info on this :
and then to find out teh provisioning had to be re sent to SIM card to enable the NFC (6Th call)
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why did you need to do this? did it actually do anything that you can tell?
TRusselo said:
my first call last night = informed white dude. read above.
told ya, NO phone has been shipped with NFC SIM. oh and NFC sims SAY NFC on them!
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Yes I now know that... BUT, that is NOT what the bell website claims, NOR is it what the Bell rep I was speaking with understood it to be. The S4 was supposed to have an NFC enabled SIM card when it was handed to the customer. The S3---when it was released, the NFC SIM cards weren't available, and had to be swapped. This is what I was told by Bell. Although.... even tho the S4 was supposed to have the NFC SIM, MOST do not... and have to be swapped as well. And yep, my new SIM says NFC on it... Old one did not.
could you give more info on this :
why did you need to do this? did it actually do anything that you can tell?
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From what I understand from Bell Tech support, in order for the wallet system to work properly, there has to be a switch enabled on the SIM. Only NFC compatible SIM cards will except the command to 'swich on' ... Unless that is 'switched is on' the RBC App will not recognize your phone as a compatible device, and therefore, not display the Wallett portion of the App. This is how we figured out my SIM card was not NFC compatible (although it SHOULD of been from the beginning, being an S4)... Their provisioning system at Bell could not even communicate with My SIM Card to switch NFC to ON. This is exactly what the tech department explained to me.
And no, the only thing I noticed is it's telling me I have a voice mail as well.. same as you.
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to get rid of the voicemail. have someone leave a message, then delete it.
fixed. called bell to find that out.
that only happened to you after the NFC switch? or when you got the NFC card. (it happened to me when i got the card)
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to get rid of the voicemail. have someone leave a message, then delete it.
fixed. called bell to find that out.
that only happened to you after the NFC switch? or when you got the NFC card. (it happened to me when i got the card)
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When i got the card... about 2 minutes after I powered the phone back on... same deal here... Its gone after I received and deleted a voice mail.
Any updates?? Have you got it working?? Or for that matter, has ANYBODY gotten it to work??
I am desperately trying to get it work but RBC and Bell put the blame on each other.
I spent a good 40 minutes on the phone with Bell yesterday, the agent didn't even know at first what I was talking about. He, according to him, checked a box to enable NFC and said there was nothing much he could do, it's now in RBC's hand.
Guess what, RBC keeps saying I need to get a NFC SIM card. ....
Looks easier to get "Permit A 38"
Update from RBC
The SIM version they provided you isn't supposed to be released until March so our system hasn't been configured to accept it yet. Bell has escalated the issue to the store to ensure no more are released.
They are sending me a new one, hopefully it's gonna work.
So even though I went to the store and got the first NFC card the guy had ever given out, mine is the version number 2 and it's too new to be used?
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That's pretty much it!
How can you advertise on a new product/service and not being ready?
Guess we have to wait....
I just got an email from rbc tech support on this issue they say the new features will not run on a rooted phone. I will try flashing back to stock unrooted firmware tonight see how that goes
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Alright then, this is not for me. Don't want to loose root.
I'll poke around in the logcat and see if there's a way that I am able to hide root from rbc app. Currently the exposed module for hiding root is not working
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Flashed back to stock unrooted, and the new "Wallet" option was available, I was able to add my cards ect.
I hate stock... i hate not having root.
Thanks for the update! No way I go back to stock unrooted just to us this new option.
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Flashed back to stock unrooted, and the new "Wallet" option was available, I was able to add my cards ect.
I hate stock... i hate not having root.
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Could you try with hidemyroot?
I'm waiting for the nfc push call back. I'm assuming build.prop has to look like it's bell stock as well.
I read changing superuser.apk to com.superuser.apk may also work. Will report back with my findings in a day or two
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I already tried un rooting the phone by removing the SU binary and removing superuser. It didn't work.
just tried hide my root. and nope.
yes my build.prop has been edited back to bell model info.
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I already tried un rooting the phone by removing the SU binary and removing superuser. It didn't work.
just tried hide my root. and nope.
yes my build.prop has been edited back to bell model info.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2577095
Did you try this
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Tried what? somebody else's banking app for a different bank?
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