Hey guys, im sure im not the only person, but it seems the internet is SLOW and moves in speed bursts/intermittent pauses when loading websites and downloads can be horrendous sometimes. Its not my reception, never had this problem on another android phone. I flashed the blaze modem.. tried to use other modems like the k2 modem (if thats what the name was) but everytime i flash any other modem it seems to sorta temporarily brick the modem because I never get service after flashing. I am on latest only one rom
Am I missing something? I even changed automatic band to manual, no difference. Is this normal and an issue that needs to be resolved? Please advise, the internet speeds. random slow downs and bursts are killing me. Please advise, thanks guys.
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Hey guys, im sure im not the only person, but it seems the internet is SLOW and moves in speed bursts/intermittent pauses when loading websites and downloads can be horrendous sometimes. Its not my reception, never had this problem on another android phone. I flashed the blaze modem.. tried to use other modems like the k2 modem (if thats what the name was) but everytime i flash any other modem it seems to sorta temporarily brick the modem because I never get service after flashing. I am on latest only one rom
Am I missing something? I even changed automatic band to manual, no difference. Is this normal and an issue that needs to be resolved? Please advise, the internet speeds. random slow downs and bursts are killing me. Please advise, thanks guys.
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my advice. try all the T-Mobile compatable modems. some work better based solely on your location.
atfer you flash or reboot your phone, normally it takes a while to aquire a signal, its especially bad with this phone. the fastest way is to go into settings and manually search for a network
I agree to the OP. I've tried every modem also and I've experienced the same exact problems where I get great reception in bursts. When I get the h+ signal it goes light gray and I get the worse receptions or the signal just stalls. The h and 3g signals go bright white and signals become fair at best. There are moments of speedy receptions but its seldom.
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I was getting all these symptoms when i was on cm9. Its a known fact the that aokp for some reason generally speeds are slower than what you would usually get. This has happened to me on every smartphone ive own.
As soon as i flashed blackstar Rom and dialed *#2263# and changed to wcmda all, my data doesnt hang as much anymore. The spurts rarely occur anymore. Hopes this helps.
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I was getting all these symptoms when i was on cm9. Its a known fact the that aokp for some reason generally speeds are slower than what you would usually get. This has happened to me on every smartphone ive own.
As soon as i flashed blackstar Rom and dialed *#2263# and changed to wcmda all, my data doesnt hang as much anymore. The spurts rarely occur anymore. Hopes this helps.
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I had good speeds on DAGr8 aokp sept 3rd build but that was about it. Sometimes I have to travel about to receive other tower connections. I'll go back to black star for the reception and see where it stands. Thanks for the info I'll try it out.
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I don't know what happened but phone just took off.
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I have to commend you on your observation black star with the blaze rom is clearly the best option for getting good service.
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I have to commend you on your observation black star with the blaze rom is clearly the best option for getting good service.
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I figured out a way to get high speeds again. Go to *#2263# make sure band is on all wcdma and reboot. Once your booted up go back to the band menu and change to wcdma 850. Circle with a line thru it will pop up. Wait like 30 secs and signal bars should pop up but no 4g. Then change back to all wcdma and do a speedtest and if your in a really good t-mobile area your downloads and upload will be fast. I just discovered this last night. Every time I reboot and do a speed test, I get like 2 mbps down and crap uploads every time but as soon as I changes bands to 850 and go back, its like the radio reboots and i get awesome speeds like I used too.
Edit: once in a while there will be a hang. What I do before that happens is before I use my data I refresh it by pressing data toggle wait ten seconds and turn is back on.
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I think i figured it out guys, try turning OFF the data roaming option!!!! Let me know if that works for you, it seems like it just did for me
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Rob4828 said:
I figured out a way to get high speeds again. Go to *#2263# make sure band is on all wcdma and reboot. Once your booted up go back to the band menu and change to wcdma 850. Circle with a line thru it will pop up. Wait like 30 secs and signal bars should pop up but no 4g. Then change back to all wcdma and do a speedtest and if your in a really good t-mobile area your downloads and upload will be fast. I just discovered this last night. Every time I reboot and do a speed test, I get like 2 mbps down and crap uploads every time but as soon as I changes bands to 850 and go back, its like the radio reboots and i get awesome speeds like I used too.
Edit: once in a while there will be a hang. What I do before that happens is before I use my data I refresh it by pressing data toggle wait ten seconds and turn is back on.
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Service mode specifically is for stock ROMs. I'll have to go back to it again. Another thing I noticed is that when I altered the service mode then switched ROMs I couldn't change from 2g/3g/h it just stayed on 2g figuring that was the last setting I had it on in the stock ROM. I flashed the stock ROM last night to change the service rom then flashed PA CM10 and I'm getting h again. I will do what you suggested if it results in better speeds. Cm9/cm10 ROMs don't have the service mode but have the phone information settings. Its not as direct or deep in changing the radio freq.
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Rob4828 said:
I figured out a way to get high speeds again. Go to *#2263# make sure band is on all wcdma and reboot. Once your booted up go back to the band menu and change to wcdma 850. Circle with a line thru it will pop up. Wait like 30 secs and signal bars should pop up but no 4g. Then change back to all wcdma and do a speedtest and if your in a really good t-mobile area your downloads and upload will be fast. I just discovered this last night. Every time I reboot and do a speed test, I get like 2 mbps down and crap uploads every time but as soon as I changes bands to 850 and go back, its like the radio reboots and i get awesome speeds like I used too.
Edit: once in a while there will be a hang. What I do before that happens is before I use my data I refresh it by pressing data toggle wait ten seconds and turn is back on.
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Thank you Rob! This definitely worked for me. I was running the Tmo stock rom (from the Tmo note forums) for about 2 weeks with my down speeds reaching up to 12mb and up reaching up to 3mb. Had to reboot last night, and my speeds went down to crap again, but I just did this and my speeds are back! Great find.
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Thank you Rob! This definitely worked for me. I was running the Tmo stock rom (from the Tmo note forums) for about 2 weeks with my down speeds reaching up to 12mb and up reaching up to 3mb. Had to reboot last night, and my speeds went down to crap again, but I just did this and my speeds are back! Great find.
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So it seems like the Tmobile Stock Rom is the best way for us to go? Is it rooted at least? Why does this Rom work better than all the others in regards to internet speeds?
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So it seems like the Tmobile Stock Rom is the best way for us to go? Is it rooted at least? Why does this Rom work better than all the others in regards to internet speeds?
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Probably because its specific for our phone. Stock for us is touchwiz do that's probably a factor.
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Probably because its specific for our phone. Stock for us is touchwiz do that's probably a factor.
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I'll try that Rom and Radio later today then. I wish I would've done more research before I left AT&T with this phone. I for sure would've just bought a T-Mobile one online somewhere lol.
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-I posted this in the Synergy thread, but thought it may help other folks...
After flashing to a 2.3.4 ROM, my 3G speeds completely took a nose dive. I tried flashing different radio combos, updating my PRL, reseting my data profile & updating everything all over again to no avail. I stuck with the latest radios, ruling them out as the problem. I tried flashing different ROMs, and I had the same 1x speeds. After poking around a little bit, I changed my EvDO preferred mode and it helped instantly:
1. In dialer, hit ##3282#
2. Edit mode
3. Enter MSL (if you have root, download MSL Reader from the market to get your MSL number
4. EVDO
5. Preferred Mode
6. Change to from CDMA only to Automatic
7. Hit Menu
8. commit changes
9. reboot
10. *hopefully* get better speeds - I went from 130kbs to 800kbs
I was stuck at 1x at one point and this fixed helped me get 3G back. However my 3G speeds are still garbage, I blame Sprint for that.
If you are having very low 3G speeds though flash a ROM or theme that will allow you to see if your phone is on 1x/3G. If you are stuck on 1x like I was this will definitely fix that.
Hmm. On viper ROM 1.3 its already set to automatic
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THANK YOU!!!!
Using the speedtest app (I know it's not perfectly accurate), I got the same thing you did: 130kbs on back-to-back tests. I changed it to "automatic", and hit an average of 1,200 kps!
I ##3282#'d again and put it back to "CDMA only" and I got 130 kbs again. So I changed it back to "automatic" and I hit 1,290 kps (peak was 1,400 kps the first time I did it). All test runs were done within minutes of each other, with the phone laying in the same spot.
MAJOR improvement for me!
Note to anyone trying this: After committing the modifications, my phone would say it was going to reboot but it never did. I had to reboot it manually after committing every change. After you commit the modifications, make sure the phone reboots to ensure the change takes effect. I'll try this tomorrow from work during peak hours where I've always had poor data speeds and see if it improves my data speeds then and there, too.
Thanks again, nol3n!
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Hmm. On viper ROM 1.3 its already set to automatic
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This may only apply to 2.3.4 ROMs. I think it may be the default setting on the latest update.
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You know how people say to go change your proxy settings to 0.0.0.0? Well I've completed removed that and that has helped my browsing A LOT.
The EVO shift had this problem when it got 2.3.3. I think the 2.3.4 roms for the EVO 3d are having same affect. The stock ROM its based off is set to CDMA only or 1xrtt.
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Funny,
We had the same issue on the Verizon Thunderbolt -- and had to reset a similar option to get 3G speeds back (phone stuck on 1x)
Note, some roms may say 3G, or have the 3G icon, but be getting slow as molasses speed.
CleanRom clearly shows the icons (1x vs 3G)
Changing from CDMA to Automatic fixed everything for me.
Thanks for posting this.
The default is automatic. If your phone is/was set to CDMA only, then it was hosed up for some reason. I had this happen once after a Sprint rep had me do a reset on all of the data settings. Not sure why it borked it.
You can tell if the phone is in 1x using one of the signal apps that show db readings. If you're on 1x, the EVDO signal strength will be -120db all the time.
I did this last week when I was having problems with my 3g and figured it out. Definitely helped me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16886953#post16886953
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I tried it here at work, and I got improved speeds, as well; although not as significant as I did at home. However, considering I'm in downtown Miami during peak hours where 100,000 people around me have a Sprint phone pulling from the local tower and I'm inside a building on the 38th floor, the improvement is still pretty damn good:
CMDA only = 90 kbs (average of two tests)
Automatic = 480 kbs (average of two tests)
That's over 5 times faster, so I'm happy with the results. My phone seems to roam less while I'm at work, too.
also, if you go to advanced then RTSP/HTTP and change ports to 0 and servers to 0.0.0.0 you will get faster service as well. (4g and 3g) just goes direct instead of a proxy
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I tried it here at work, and I got improved speeds, as well; although not as significant as I did at home. However, considering I'm in downtown Miami during peak hours where 100,000 people around me have a Sprint phone pulling from the local tower and I'm inside a building on the 38th floor, the improvement is still pretty damn good:
CMDA only = 90 kbs (average of two tests)
Automatic = 480 kbs (average of two tests)
That's over 5 times faster, so I'm happy with the results. My phone seems to roam less while I'm at work, too.
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Good to hear ruge. How ya been buddy?
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Good to hear ruge. How ya been buddy?
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Good, man........I hope all is well with you, too. I haven't been on here as much as I used to because I got some new accounts at work that have kept me busy, but I be lurking.
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also, if you go to advanced then RTSP/HTTP and change ports to 0 and servers to 0.0.0.0 you will get faster service as well. (4g and 3g) just goes direct instead of a proxy
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Yea, I remembered this from my OG Evo and did it to this phone as soon as I got it, but I noticed no change at all. This, however, was night & day for me. I saw someone mention that the default setting is automatic, but I really can't say if my phone came with automatic as default and then it changed after flashing something or not because I never checked it before last night.
Weird, mine was already set to automatic. But i removed the 0.0.0.0 and blanked it out.
Rebooting now.
Im so pissed off at this phone. Supposed to be fast but my browsing experience sucks because of this delay between 3g/h+
Before I get flaimed I have read before, I tried fast dormancy off, I tried disabling H+ and putting 3g only but the same delay exists. I also tried putting the phone in wcdma mode so edge gets removed.
I don't know what to do, I came from an iphone 4 and although the pages load slower because of hardware I could actually see the data progress going and loading up, here my sgs2 just stands for 10 seconds doing nothing and then loads up the page fairly quick.
Sometimes it doesn't even load and says page could not be loaded even though I have the h+ icon on.
Now If anyone experiences this and has some sort of fix plz let me know.
Im running westcrip 9.6 with lph, and have had this issue in previous roms too.
My network is Claro Dominican republic
Thanks
I have a similar problem! In my case the phone suddenly switches from H to 3G, I don't know why, and then goes back to H. This happens while I'm using browser, generally when I activate data connection and I don't use anything, it remains on 3G
My problem is that sometimes the delay may be 2 seconds and its managable but then it can go up to 15 or not do anything at all.
Same problem, I thought it's ok, but if it's not, then how to manage your data, without any delays?
just in case for someone who might know how to fix your problem u should give them/us information about:
your rom
your kernel
your modem
rooted or not
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warrez said:
just in case for someone who might know how to fix your problem u should give them/us information about:
your rom
your kernel
your modem
rooted or not
ps. wrong section btw...
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carrier and location (country) would be good too.
EDIT: whoops, saw it's in the first post. Sorry.
Its normal to go from G to H+ when data is in use. As soon as the phone detects that it needs to access the network, it will achieve the H+ connection. Apparently it will kill the battery if its always on H+. This, I understand. But the part I do not understand is the delay from G to H+. I am not sure if its a carrier issue for most of us, or the phone itself. I am assuming its a carrier issue though as it has happened on every ROM or Modem I have tried from personal experience. Not sure about the OP. It does seem to take some time at times to get from G to H+ - upwards of 15 seconds or more. Also, if it can't get H+, it will not browse at all on 3G
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Its normal to go from G to H+ when data is in use. As soon as the phone detects that it needs to access the network, it will achieve the H+ connection. Apparently it will kill the battery if its always on H+. This, I understand. But the part I do not understand is the delay from G to H+. I am not sure if its a carrier issue for most of us, or the phone itself. I am assuming its a carrier issue though as it has happened on every ROM or Modem I have tried from personal experience. Not sure about the OP. It does seem to take some time at times to get from G to H+ - upwards of 15 seconds or more. Also, if it can't get H+, it will not browse at all on 3G
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I get the same issue with the 3G. It won't load anything on 3G connection but as soon as it switches to H or H+ it starts to load.
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I get the same issue with the 3G. It won't load anything on 3G connection but as soon as it switches to H or H+ it starts to load.
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Yep, same problem in Moscow. It's probably related to device, nor to carrier. Kinda odd.
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I get the same issue with the 3G. It won't load anything on 3G connection but as soon as it switches to H or H+ it starts to load.
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+1 for that..hate that...
So i guess there is no fix for this
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So i guess there is no fix for this
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I don't think so. Seems to be a device issue. I just took a look at my Blackberry Bold 9900 I use for work and it always has H+. It doesn't go to 3G and then to H+ like the SGS2 does. And when I browse on that, its always ready to go, no delay. Not sure why our SGS2 needs to handshake H+ everytime
In my case it seems to depend upon the modem I use. kL1 works really well, however when I trialed ICS it was really slow as described.
Also, far less related, as for the mention of browsing, I use Dolphin and find that it seems to be much slower at either DNS lookups or redirects or something.
It's most likely because of your carriers settings. There's nothing you can do unless you call them questions about what their policy is at their end on data connectivity.
My phone - I have ICS - S-OFF Amaze with Energy ROM and I had tried to apply blas0id tweaks.
The problem - In certain areas I don't have phone signal for a few minutes, then suddenly it will show 4 bars for a few minutes. In general the signal seems fickle.
Before ICS upgrade, when I had GB, I always had 4 bars in the same places. I *think* I had good signal with ICS before I did blat0id tweaks, but I am not certain of that. (ICS and the tweaks were within a few days)
My wife's Iphone still has excellent signal in those places. Tmobile Mytouch also has excellent signal in the same places. So something has changed on my amaze and not the cell towers.
What I have done so far -
1. went back to stock ICS by flashing the img file. That did not improve the signal. So then got back to energy
2. Tried another ROM - speedrom. No improvement in signal
3. Tried few apps like fresh network. They did not help
Please help me
What can/should I do? I love my amaze, but if I dont get consistent signal, I will have to replace it
Are there any tweaks that I can try?
How about the custom kernels that have been made for ICS recently, would those help?
Is there a way to increase the power to look for and catch on better signal? I can trade battery life for better signal
Thanks
I have same issue but with WiFi only. I never had GB I hope there is a work around
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Found a workaround
This was dumb luck, but when I was trying to play around the app opensignal, it wanted me to set 2G for some of its functionality, since that functionality does not work over 3g. So I went to setup and set Network mode to "GSM Only" from "GSM/WCDMA Auto"
And walla! right after that my signal jumped from 1 bar to 4 bars and has stayed there. I went back to WCDMA and signal dropped, so now I change the network mode only when I need 4G. Its a pain, but at least, the signal is good when I need it.
So with that information, can someone help how I can tweak something to get my 4G and also good signal?
Thanks
try updating the radio if you have done so, even though you are going to have to go through the process of locking the device again and unlocking the bootloader again, that would be an idea to try, we still dont know what changes R2 radio update has done but its deff worth a shot
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try updating the radio if you have done so, even though you are going to have to go through the process of locking the device again and unlocking the bootloader again, that would be an idea to try, we still dont know what changes R2 radio update has done but its deff worth a shot
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I would like to kno also but let kno what radio u flash from the ruu
kenneth11414 said:
try updating the radio if you have done so, even though you are going to have to go through the process of locking the device again and unlocking the bootloader again, that would be an idea to try, we still dont know what changes R2 radio update has done but its deff worth a shot
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I checked the version of my software and I think I already have R2
Build number
2.14.531.3_R2 CL373265 release-keys
So not sure if that would change anything
I have always had this problem as well sometimes I have 4 bars of signal then it drops to the X as in no signal,can't make calls or sends texts until it picks up again, happens totally random don't think it has to do anything with tmobile coverage since I live in the center of Miami. Also most of the time I have 2 bars of signal in most places, I believe it's faulty hardware
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try updating the radio if you have done so, even though you are going to have to go through the process of locking the device again and unlocking the bootloader again, that would be an idea to try, we still dont know what changes R2 radio update has done but its deff worth a shot
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Krazex2005 said:
I have always had this problem as well sometimes I have 4 bars of signal then it drops to the X as in no signal,can't make calls or sends texts until it picks up again, happens totally random don't think it has to do anything with tmobile coverage since I live in the center of Miami. Also most of the time I have 2 bars of signal in most places, I believe it's faulty hardware
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Krazex .. did you try to set your network mode and see if that helps your signal stick around longer and get better signal? That is working well for me.
I've tried setting my network to GSA and my data speed dropped to 2G.
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I've tried setting my network to GSA and my data speed dropped to 2G.
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yup, that's what this setting is supposed to do, but it increased the quality of my phone signal, that is what I am trying to make better/consistent. Because even after all the bells and whistles, calling someone/receiving the calls is the primary purpose of the phone for me and if that doesn't work, the phone doesn't work for me
GSM = 2G
WCDMA = 3G/4G
Get a new SIM card.
My amaze won't get 4g in my house whatsoever, only switches to 2g when it feels like it.
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GSM = 2G
WCDMA = 3G/4G
Get a new SIM card.
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A new sim card is a good idea.. so is removing the back cover and cleaning off the contacts with a q-tip and some rubbing alcohol. Taking something and SLIGHTLY bending out each of the gold contacts so they make better contact with the case, making sure there is no debris.
Another thing to look into- there is a TON of hacks for cellphone signal that can be done in build.prop.. playing with those settings is probably a good idea.
The last idea- the signal is actually NOT different. The number of bars it shows you is now just more ACCURATE. You still lose signal in ONLY the exact places you would have before.. but now when your phone would show you as having 1 or 2 bars(on gingerbread) right before you lose all signal, on ICS it shows you as having NO bars because you truly have almost lost the signal. It is VERY accurate, now that I am in an area with bad signal.. I have actually flashed gingerbread again and things did NOT get better, there was just fewer bars that weren't as accurate. But I lost signal in the same spots, and would lost 4g in the same exact spots..
hasoon2000 said:
GSM = 2G
WCDMA = 3G/4G
Get a new SIM card.
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RZJZA80 said:
My amaze won't get 4g in my house whatsoever, only switches to 2g when it feels like it.
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Guys, OP here. This question/workaround is not about getting 4G. I am getting 4G just fine. Its about the phone signal (the bars). My amaze does not get good phone signal in some areas and when I set the network mode to GSM only (2G), phone signal strength and stability increases. and now I want to figure out how I can keep the setting to 4G and get a good phone signal
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A new sim card is a good idea.. so is removing the back cover and cleaning off the contacts with a q-tip and some rubbing alcohol. Taking something and SLIGHTLY bending out each of the gold contacts so they make better contact with the case, making sure there is no debris.
Another thing to look into- there is a TON of hacks for cellphone signal that can be done in build.prop.. playing with those settings is probably a good idea.
The last idea- the signal is actually NOT different. The number of bars it shows you is now just more ACCURATE. You still lose signal in ONLY the exact places you would have before.. but now when your phone would show you as having 1 or 2 bars(on gingerbread) right before you lose all signal, on ICS it shows you as having NO bars because you truly have almost lost the signal. It is VERY accurate, now that I am in an area with bad signal.. I have actually flashed gingerbread again and things did NOT get better, there was just fewer bars that weren't as accurate. But I lost signal in the same spots, and would lost 4g in the same exact spots..
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Hi SBD, thanks for coming in. I will look into build.prop (ro.ril properties I think) I will also clean any dust inside the phone, may be that will help. The sim card was new when I got my amaze .. but no harm in trying. So I will ask for a new sim card too.
However, in my case, I have a different experience. This is what I did in a weak signal spot.
Have 4G on. I get 0 signal. Can't make a call
go to 2G at the same spot, I get 2-3 bars. I can make a call
I used opensignal app to check signal strength in both cases. with 4G it showed 0. With 2G it showed 42%
Another test. On my route to drop kids off for their day camp, I was on a call (with 4G on) and dropped the call twice (bad reception areas) while going. I switched it to 2G and while coming back did not drop the call.
Before I found this workaround .. people called me and complained that it directly went to voicemail and I never got the call. (no signal). Since I found the workaround, I haven't heard that from anyone.
So I am convinced that there are some real issues in catching the signal with 4G on that get resolved in "2G only" mode. (may be it has to do with the kind of cell towers we have in our area and nothing to do with the phone)
will update if I find more
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Hi SBD, thanks for coming in. I will look into build.prop (ro.ril properties I think) I will also clean any dust inside the phone, may be that will help.
However, in my case, I have a different experience. This is what I did in a weak signal spot.
Have 4G on. I get 0 signal. Can't make a call
go to 2G at the same spot, I get 2-3 bars. I can make a call
I used opensignal app to check signal strength in both cases. with 4G it showed 0. With 2G it showed 42%
Another test. On my route to drop kids off for their day camp, I was on a call (with 4G on) and dropped the call twice (bad reception areas) while going. I switched it to 2G and while coming back did not drop the call.
Before I found this workaround .. people called me and complained that it directly went to voicemail and I never got the call. (no signal). Since I found the workaround, I haven't heard that from anyone.
So I am convinced that there are some real issues in catching the signal with 4G on that get resolved in "2G only" mode. (may be it has to do with the kind of cell towers we have in our area and nothing to do with the phone)
will update if I find more
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Yea, it should be lines that have ro.ril that youd eant to change.. and fortunately one of those that you can add(it isn't included by default) will do exactly what you need, default to 2g signal when 4g is too weak. I actually need the same thing, in Jacksonville we have great signal.. except in this new place I moved into. It drains my battery by trying to stay with 4g.. but I don't have time before work to find it.
Look for a tthread by "master&slave" titled something like "super build.prop tweaks" in the vibrant forums, I THINK they had that line.. otherwise google around for something like "build.prop signal tweak" as if it isisn't in that thread, there's a really good one on some other forum.
Also, I remember there being some app that requires root that allows you to toggle between GSM preferred and 2g only.. it changes it at system level, and I don't think it was on the play store, I think it was on Xda.
But yea, I understand your dilemma, and until we get an alternative radio to flash(which I don't forsee), that is the kind of workarounds you need. If you find a reasonable solution make sure to post as it will help me too!
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Found that thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151608
and a few others
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269
http://androinica.com/2009/12/hack-for-rooted-phones-promises-faster-2g3g-speeds/
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/9781-buildprop-roril-meanings/
I will try to figure out what these different ril properties control and which one to modify .. will report after my experimentation. I haven't found a good comprehensive explanation of all those properties yet.
Glad I'm not the only one...
hasoon2000 said:
GSM = 2G
WCDMA = 3G/4G
Get a new SIM card.
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I have had this problem ever since I got my phone in October (right after launch). Updating to ICS didn't help. i've been planning to root and try another ROM, but so far have been skittish as this is my only phone. hasoon, you say it's the SIM card? I am trying the switch to GSM only to see if it makes a difference. My problem is at home - I have terrible service and I live on a mountain with cell phone towers everywhere. My daughter's AT&T and my old AT&T Nokia E71x had excellent service there. I'll let you know if this helps. Maybe a trip to my local t-Mobile store is in order.
It's not the sim card. I noticed on google a lot of people have this problem with htc phones. It's just a bad radio.
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soundping said:
It's not the sim card. I noticed on google a lot of people have this problem with htc phones. It's just a bad radio.
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We know. If you wanna help read my post number 16 or try some of the links he posted in 17.. we just need a decent workaround.
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the Note, but definitely not new to Android or XDA.
I've got the phone "unlocked" via the radio trick here: http://str8pt.blogspot.com/2013/06/unlock-simfree-method-for-galaxy-note.html
I've rooted it, and have tried a few different ROMs with different radios.
The Blaze radio (and others) I mention are from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679722
I am in Melbourne, FL in case location makes any difference.
Here's what I am seeing:
CyanogenMOD 10.1.3 - using Blaze ICS radio I am getting only EDGE speeds. Using "Official TMO ICS Radio" (I'm guessing it's the one from the TMO Note?) , I get NO connectivity.
Stock 4.1.2 - using Blaze ICS radio I am getting 4G, however the signal meter is totally empty as if there's just enough signal to register connectivity but not enough to register a single bar. Download speeds are abysmal in comparison to other TMO phones I've used here - I am seeing downloads at around 1.5MB - other phones are 6, 7, even 8 MB.
My question are as follows:
Using CyanogenMod, should I be using the i717 version? Or the TMO Note version? Is there anything I can do with ANY particular radio to get better than EDGE?
Using the Stock ROM (or a variant), is there are a way to get the signal cluster to function properly? Any way to get better download speeds?
I read that the TMO 4.0.4 stock ROM image can be installed via ODIN and apparently it works correctly (if I am reading correctly) - would the TMO 4.1.2 stock ROM image be installed via ODIN and work as well? (If I can even find a full download of it?)
Should I expect to have to re-flash the radio each time with each ROM? From what I've seen, if I don't, I lose any ability to get 4G until I flash it again. I'd be stuck on EDGE.
Thanks so much guys! I've searched and read till my eyes are crossing and not finding the answers I need. I hope that with the experience that can be found in this forum maybe I can get where I need to be!
Thanks again!
JWhipple said:
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the Note, but definitely not new to Android or XDA.
I've got the phone "unlocked" via the radio trick here: http://str8pt.blogspot.com/2013/06/unlock-simfree-method-for-galaxy-note.html
I've rooted it, and have tried a few different ROMs with different radios.
The Blaze radio (and others) I mention are from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679722
I am in Melbourne, FL in case location makes any difference.
Here's what I am seeing:
CyanogenMOD 10.1.3 - using Blaze ICS radio I am getting only EDGE speeds. Using "Official TMO ICS Radio" (I'm guessing it's the one from the TMO Note?) , I get NO connectivity.
Stock 4.1.2 - using Blaze ICS radio I am getting 4G, however the signal meter is totally empty as if there's just enough signal to register connectivity but not enough to register a single bar. Download speeds are abysmal in comparison to other TMO phones I've used here - I am seeing downloads at around 1.5MB - other phones are 6, 7, even 8 MB.
My question are as follows:
Using CyanogenMod, should I be using the i717 version? Or the TMO Note version? Is there anything I can do with ANY particular radio to get better than EDGE?
Using the Stock ROM (or a variant), is there are a way to get the signal cluster to function properly? Any way to get better download speeds?
I read that the TMO 4.0.4 stock ROM image can be installed via ODIN and apparently it works correctly (if I am reading correctly) - would the TMO 4.1.2 stock ROM image be installed via ODIN and work as well? (If I can even find a full download of it?)
Should I expect to have to re-flash the radio each time with each ROM? From what I've seen, if I don't, I lose any ability to get 4G until I flash it again. I'd be stuck on EDGE.
Thanks so much guys! I've searched and read till my eyes are crossing and not finding the answers I need. I hope that with the experience that can be found in this forum maybe I can get where I need to be!
Thanks again!
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I recently obtained an I717 too, unlocked it, and got it functioning with my tmobile prepaid plan. I'm still on gingerbread rom and using KID radio with decent success. just 4G , using WCDMA band 1700 (*#2263#). I get consistent decent speeds but not LTE.
The hands down best modem to use is UCMB4 - Google it. But it can cause problems with some jelly bean ROMs.
If you want jb more than anything, play with modems. If you want speed AND stability, go jellybean sandwich or black star X with the aforementioned modem.
If you want WiFi calling download skeleton key.
Ucmb4 with any of those three and the proper APN will get you LTE as fast as it's offered in your area
Anthony820 said:
The hands down best modem to use is UCMB4 - Google it. But it can cause problems with some jelly bean ROMs.
If you want jb more than anything, play with modems. If you want speed AND stability, go jellybean sandwich or black star X with the aforementioned modem.
If you want WiFi calling download skeleton key.
Ucmb4 with any of those three and the proper APN will get you LTE as fast as it's offered in your area
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Hi Anthony820,
I'm currently running your Skeleton Key ROM - not bad at all! But definitely want to try to get CyanogenMod or PACman JB running.
I'll give the UCMB4 radio a shot this evening !
When I had service with TMO (via Straight Talk) I had the best luck with UVLG3.
jman315 said:
When I had service with TMO (via Straight Talk) I had the best luck with UVLG3.
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Using which ROM?
I've got CM 10.1.3 for i717 installed right now, going through and testing each and will post results.
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Using which ROM?
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At the time I was running CM 10.1 nightlies.
Uvlg3, if I recall, will get you good down speed, but mediocre up. Otherwise, it's a solid choice and may be more cooperative with jb builds.
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Uvlg3, if I recall, will get you good down speed, but mediocre up. Otherwise, it's a solid choice and may be more cooperative with jb builds.
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Looks like you're right - here's just 4 radios that I just tested:
UCMB4 - EDGE only
UVLG3 - 3G/DC(WTF??)/H+ 6.01Mbps up/1.07 Mbps down
UVLE1 - Phone freezes, locks on black screen, had to pull battery
ICSBLAZE - 3G/DC/H+ Network communication issues message when running speedtest.
By the way, what the heck is "DC" on the network indicator where 3G or H/H+ normally is? I've never seen that before!
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Looks like you're right - here's just 4 radios that I just tested:
UCMB4 - EDGE only
UVLG3 - 3G/DC(WTF??)/H+ 6.01Mbps up/1.07 Mbps down
UVLE1 - Phone freezes, locks on black screen, had to pull battery
ICSBLAZE - 3G/DC/H+ Network communication issues message when running speedtest.
By the way, what the heck is "DC" on the network indicator where 3G or H/H+ normally is? I've never seen that before!
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I believe It stands for dual channel.
By the way, just checked and CM's WiFi tethering is working as well - nice!
Not sure what I did differently this time but this evening the signal indicator is showing real signal strength, equivalent to what I was seeing on another phone on CM.
JWhipple said:
By the way, just checked and CM's WiFi tethering is working as well - nice!
Not sure what I did differently this time but this evening the signal indicator is showing real signal strength, equivalent to what I was seeing on another phone on CM.
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Good to hear. I believe not seeing any signal strength is a known issue specifically with the Blaze modem.
Make sure you're changing your APN from epc.* to fast.t-mobile.com
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Anthony820 said:
Make sure you're changing your APN from epc.* to fast.t-mobile.com
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I'm guessing that would get me LTE if it's available in my area?
I just switched over to it and only got EDGE...
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I'm guessing that would get me LTE if it's available in my area?
I just switched over to it and only got EDGE...
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If you're on a modem that'll work with LTE, yep. Otherwise HSPA or Edge.
Make sure, I forget and my Note no longer has service, that the top option is set under Network Type or whatever it is. Network Mode? I don't know, you'll figure it out. The thing that lets you pick between GSM, WCDMA etc..etc..
Anthony820 said:
If you're on a modem that'll work with LTE, yep. Otherwise HSPA or Edge.
Make sure, I forget and my Note no longer has service, that the top option is set under Network Type or whatever it is. Network Mode? I don't know, you'll figure it out. The thing that lets you pick between GSM, WCDMA etc..etc..
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Ok, I got it figured out. I am on the FAST APN and set to WCDMA/LTE . I'm on 3G/H+ here in the house now - will see how it goes when I head out tomorrow.
Either way, I think it's time to make a backup - it's running marvelously and doing everything I would expect it to!
NOTE: Newest PAC ROM (4.3) running smoothly with UVLG3 modem on T-Mobile without issue
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Scratch that - it worked great until I did the first reboot - then it wouldn't boot up again, even with a battery pull.
JWhipple said:
Ok, I got it figured out. I am on the FAST APN and set to WCDMA/LTE . I'm on 3G/H+ here in the house now - will see how it goes when I head out tomorrow.
Either way, I think it's time to make a backup - it's running marvelously and doing everything I would expect it to!
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I went ahead and flashed UCMB4 and was showing 4g lte after reboot. my phone info setting says WCDMA preferred (it shows no LTE option at all ) and the *#2263# menu setting says "automatic". on the fast.t-mobile.com apn
I use UCMD3 and get LTE almost everywhere. Hellybean is a pretty good ROM, try it out!
Good day all!
I've been experiencing some issues since I got my C6806 3 weeks ago. I live in Toronto and my provider is Rogers. The phone itself is unlocked and is just running the stock software which is 4.2.2, build # 14.1.B.2.257
Ever since I got the phone I've had a periodic issue where the phone signal strength will just completely die out to 0 bars, then it'll come back to full bars about 30 seconds later. It happens whether I'm home or out on the road. It happens if I'm using LTE bands or 3G or HSPA. It also happens whether I've got wifi on or off.
Any troubleshooting steps you could suggest?
Thanks in advance!
vivftp said:
Good day all!
I've been experiencing some issues since I got my C6806 3 weeks ago. I live in Toronto and my provider is Rogers. The phone itself is unlocked and is just running the stock software which is 4.2.2, build # 14.1.B.2.257
Ever since I got the phone I've had a periodic issue where the phone signal strength will just completely die out to 0 bars, then it'll come back to full bars about 30 seconds later. It happens whether I'm home or out on the road. It happens if I'm using LTE bands or 3G or HSPA. It also happens whether I've got wifi on or off.
Any troubleshooting steps you could suggest?
Thanks in advance!
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has it always happened?
Have you got stamina mode on? Turn stamina mode off and see if it stops..
hamdogg said:
has it always happened?
Have you got stamina mode on? Turn stamina mode off and see if it stops..
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It seems to happen on a frequent basis. At least a couple of times a day when I happen to be paying attention to my phone.
I've never actually used stamina mode, and it's always been off.
How's LTE and HSPA where you are? If the signal is poor it'll switch over to the next thing on ladder. If you have a poor LTE signal it'll jump down to HSPA, and if you have a poor signal on that one it'll jump down to EDGE. It's the same dance if you walk into an area where there is good LTE coverage. It jump up from EDGE or HSPA to LTE, and iin all cases when it switches, you'll notice a couple of seconds where it connects to the new frequency (by having zero signal). That's why I disable LTE when I know I'm going to be in an area with poor LTE signal for a long period of time.
Not saying that this is your problem, but try only using EDGE for a couple of hours and see if it happens again.
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How's LTE and HSPA where you are? If the signal is poor it'll switch over to the next thing on ladder. If you have a poor LTE signal it'll jump down to HSPA, and if you have a poor signal on that one it'll jump down to EDGE. It's the same dance if you walk into an area where there is good LTE coverage. It jump up from EDGE or HSPA to LTE, and iin all cases when it switches, you'll notice a couple of seconds where it connects to the new frequency (by having zero signal). That's why I disable LTE when I know I'm going to be in an area with poor LTE signal for a long period of time.
Not saying that this is your problem, but try only using EDGE for a couple of hours and see if it happens again.
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LTE and HSPA coverage by Rogers in Toronto is great overall. I don't really use the LTE APN because it seems to suck up battery life immensely. I just keep it in the normal APN that seems to switch randomly between HSPA and 3G. The issue can occur if I'm just sitting still in a spot. I'm using it, and all of a sudden the signal just cuts out for about 30 seconds and comes back. Both before and after the incident I am usually at full bars.
I'm unsure of what EDGE is. The only things I control are the APNs I obtained from Rogers - one is just the standard one that gives me 3G and HSPA, and the other is LTE.
Dunno what else I can really do. I doubt it's my provider so it's gotta be the phone. Any other real troubleshooting steps to try, or should I just get this to Sony?
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vivftp said:
LTE and HSPA coverage by Rogers in Toronto is great overall. I don't really use the LTE APN because it seems to suck up battery life immensely. I just keep it in the normal APN that seems to switch randomly between HSPA and 3G. The issue can occur if I'm just sitting still in a spot. I'm using it, and all of a sudden the signal just cuts out for about 30 seconds and comes back. Both before and after the incident I am usually at full bars.
I'm unsure of what EDGE is. The only things I control are the APNs I obtained from Rogers - one is just the standard one that gives me 3G and HSPA, and the other is LTE.
Dunno what else I can really do. I doubt it's my provider so it's gotta be the phone. Any other real troubleshooting steps to try, or should I just get this to Sony?
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EDGE is 2G. so turn off LTE and HSPA+ and see if it does it.
I don't have the LTE equipped phone so I'm not sure if these hardware functions will switch on and off randomly.
It sounds like your hardware is switching between 4g and 3g. problem is that both wont work simultaneously, so you would get this drop off. solution is that build prop edit i gave you.
But then you'd have 4g on all the time. so if you don't want that then turn it off manually.
Try these.
Edit your build.prop file.
(do you know how to do this??)
and insert these.
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ro.ril.hsxpa=3
ro.ril.gprsclass=12
ro.ril.hep=1
ro.ril.enable.dtm=1
ro.ril.hsdpa.category=20
ro.ril.hsupa.category=7
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.enable.3g.prefix=1
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that will stop hardware switching between 2g/3g/4g
as well as make it faster.
Settings->More...->Mobile Networks->Network Mode->GSM Only
You'll still have mobile data, but it will be SLOW. I think the top speed is around 400KB/sec, but you'll only use this to check if your signal is more stable without 3G/4G.
Tip: If you want to save battery and you aren't the type that uses a lot of mobile data, use EDGE (the thing i'm currently writing about). 4G uses a lot of juice.
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Settings->More...->Mobile Networks->Network Mode->GSM Only
You'll still have mobile data, but it will be SLOW. I think the top speed is around 400KB/sec, but you'll only use this to check if your signal is more stable without 3G/4G.
Tip: If you want to save battery and you aren't the type that uses a lot of mobile data, use EDGE (the thing i'm currently writing about). 4G uses a lot of juice.
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Thanks. Just made the change and will keep an eye on it over the next day or two.
Just gotta say holy crap this Edge thing is SO slow. Even just loading icons on Google Plus or Youtube searches takes forever. A mobile speed test is showing about 133 kbps...
Damn... gotta come up with a better solution that doesn't require having slow as shyte data access
I'm trying WCDMA only to see how this might work. At least the speeds are more tolerable there.
vivftp said:
Just gotta say holy crap this Edge thing is SO slow. Even just loading icons on Google Plus or Youtube searches takes forever. A mobile speed test is showing about 133 kbps...
Damn... gotta come up with a better solution that doesn't require having slow as shyte data access
I'm trying WCDMA only to see how this might work. At least the speeds are more tolerable there.
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Yeah, but keep using it for now. You're only checking if the signal drops while your on it, so I'm not saying that you should keep using it. It's only for a couple of hours. You can do it!
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Yeah, but keep using it for now. You're only checking if the signal drops while your on it, so I'm not saying that you should keep using it. It's only for a couple of hours. You can do it!
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*sigh* I'll try
lol
EDIT. Nevermind the part below. I just kept trying more SMS apps until I settled upon GO SMS and it seems to finally be able to load photos. Damned weird the default one wouldn't do it
On another note, can anyone explain why the built in Messaging app has issues both sending and recieving photos? Plus there're a few instances where it says I've got a message, but I've viewed them all. I've even tried downloading a few other messaging apps from the Play store, and they can't seem to view or send photos either. Damned weird if you ask me.
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*sigh* I'll try
lol
EDIT. Nevermind the part below. I just kept trying more SMS apps until I settled upon GO SMS and it seems to finally be able to load photos. Damned weird the default one wouldn't do it
On another note, can anyone explain why the built in Messaging app has issues both sending and recieving photos? Plus there're a few instances where it says I've got a message, but I've viewed them all. I've even tried downloading a few other messaging apps from the Play store, and they can't seem to view or send photos either. Damned weird if you ask me.
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I'm not using the stock messaging app. I'm using Hangouts as my main SMS app, but I didn't have any issues with it when I used it. The Android 4.3 update is released now, so you can update to it through PC Companion? Note that this will remove root and stuff like if you're rooted. If not, go ahead.
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I'm not using the stock messaging app. I'm using Hangouts as my main SMS app, but I didn't have any issues with it when I used it. The Android 4.3 update is released now, so you can update to it through PC Companion? Note that this will remove root and stuff like if you're rooted. If not, go ahead.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just want to say that I'm having the exact same issue. I thought it might have occurred after I installed a custom room but I'm now back on stock and still experiencing 4 bars immediately dropping to no service and then going back to 3 or 4 bars before slowly dropping back to zero. I figured it could be LTE, so I experimented with all settings under mobile networks to no avail. I try the same Sim in my note 2 in the same location and I have no issues. I believe this is an issue with the antenna or a general hardware fault. My phone is the c6806, originally on Bell but being used on Telus. I have already contacted Sony but they are giving me the runaround
Anyone know how the warranty is handled in Canada? Anyone else have this problem?
Signal issues
Sorry I'm restarting this thread one more time.. But anyone figure out a fix? I'm having the same problem on a brand new phone... I had the same phone before I lost it. Got it again but these signal dropping issues now . Never had these on my previous cc6806