I tried downgrading to android 2.2 (vegan 5.1) and see if hulu / others will look better/smoother. I heard that the gingerbread doesn't have video accelleration. I'm still getting pretty spotty video.
Any suggestions? Anyone able to get smooth video at this point?
Oh, I'm also using the hulu fixed version of 10.2 and dolphin hd.
Thanks
I think you should get an iPad
Lilwolf2000 said:
I tried downgrading to android 2.2 (vegan 5.1) and see if hulu / others will look better/smoother. I heard that the gingerbread doesn't have video accelleration. I'm still getting pretty spotty video.
Any suggestions? Anyone able to get smooth video at this point?
Oh, I'm also using the hulu fixed version of 10.2 and dolphin hd.
Thanks
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Bottom line is if you are not overclocking then calkulin+clemsyn combo is the only rom fast enough for completely smooth video. I recommend the ipad.
PlayOn is a decent solution for getting Hulu onto Android, or any other device. Smooth hulu in the browser would be nice, but it's too much trouble for me personally.
Well I am on my third Gingerbread rom (6th overall rom) and I finally have gotten the Vulkano to stream in all situations. Last night I downloaded CM7's nightly build 58 and flashed my G-Tablet. Installation was very smooth using clockworkmod and all 128 apps were restored using Titanium back with no problems. I had wiped and formated just about everything I could before doing the installation. After that I went to the market and downloaded the Vulkano player and at last sucess. I was able to stream from the vulkano both locally and over the internet. I realize some other people have had sucess using Corwins rom (CM7 based), and that was going to be next if this did not work. I had previously tried G-Harmony with no sucess, and then Vegan Tab GB with limited succes. The strange thing with Vegan Tab was it would stream over the internet however it would not stream when I was home locally. Watching the bandwidth I was getting at home the software player seemed to choke everytime it was over 1 mb/sec. When I was out of the house and connected over the internet it worked fine at speeds anywhere from 300-900k. This leads me to believe the hardware accelleration that is now included in CM7 is working with this app allowing it to run over my local network. Another thing that I have struggled with is getting recorded shows downloaded to my G-Tab. Well I still can not get it to work with any rom and the vulkano player but I have a work around for now. By down loading the videos using UPNPdownloader (avlalable in the market for free) you can then watch the recordings using MOBOPlayer or Rockplayer. Now for even better news when Rockplayers asks if you want to use hardware decoding and you answer yes the videos run close to flawlessly. On the other two GB roms it obviously would not work using the hardware decoding. They did run on the roms using the software decoding but they would stutter even at the lowest recorded resolutons. When playing high quality recordings they would be unwatchable due to the delay in video processing in which the sound which was a full 3-5 seconds ahead of the picture. This would make all sense since the Vulkano records in the H.264 video format and if I am not mistaken that is the portion of hardware accelleration that is working. Well I hope this helps someone else.
Lastly I do miss the Vegan Tab interface, the VT Launcher was very smooth and the rom was much more tablet oriented. I can not wait until gojimi includes this in his rom since the rom is CM7 based if I am not mistaken. Please excuse any typos and good luck.
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Well I am on my third Gingerbread rom (6th overall rom) and I finally have gotten the Vulkano to stream in all situations. Last night I downloaded CM7's nightly build 58 and flashed my G-Tablet. Installation was very smooth using clockworkmod and all 128 apps were restored using Titanium back with no problems. I had wiped and formated just about everything I could before doing the installation. After that I went to the market and downloaded the Vulkano player and at last sucess. I was able to stream from the vulkano both locally and over the internet. I realize some other people have had sucess using Corwins rom (CM7 based), and that was going to be next if this did not work. I had previously tried G-Harmony with no sucess, and then Vegan Tab GB with limited succes. The strange thing with Vegan Tab was it would stream over the internet however it would not stream when I was home locally. Watching the bandwidth I was getting at home the software player seemed to choke everytime it was over 1 mb/sec. When I was out of the house and connected over the internet it worked fine at speeds anywhere from 300-900k. This leads me to believe the hardware accelleration that is now included in CM7 is working with this app allowing it to run over my local network. Another thing that I have struggled with is getting recorded shows downloaded to my G-Tab. Well I still can not get it to work with any rom and the vulkano player but I have a work around for now. By down loading the videos using UPNPdownloader (avlalable in the market for free) you can then watch the recordings using MOBOPlayer or Rockplayer. Now for even better news when Rockplayers asks if you want to use hardware decoding and you answer yes the videos run close to flawlessly. On the other two GB roms it obviously would not work using the hardware decoding. They did run on the roms using the software decoding but they would stutter even at the lowest recorded resolutons. When playing high quality recordings they would be unwatchable due to the delay in video processing in which the sound which was a full 3-5 seconds ahead of the picture. This would make all sense since the Vulkano records in the H.264 video format and if I am not mistaken that is the portion of hardware accelleration that is working. Well I hope this helps someone else.
Lastly I do miss the Vegan Tab interface, the VT Launcher was very smooth and the rom was much more tablet oriented. I can not wait until gojimi includes this in his rom since the rom is CM7 based if I am not mistaken. Please excuse any typos and good luck.
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Interesting. I have a vulkano, and am running vegantab with pershoot's latest overclocked kernel - I have not gotten around to getting it set up, but under that other OS (er, iOS?) I would pull over 2Mbit/sec (more like 3) for local HD content, and 1.5+ for remote (yay for comcast HSI) - I should test it out. I'll let you know what I see tomorrow!
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Interesting. I have a vulkano, and am running vegantab with pershoot's latest overclocked kernel - I have not gotten around to getting it set up, but under that other OS (er, iOS?) I would pull over 2Mbit/sec (more like 3) for local HD content, and 1.5+ for remote (yay for comcast HSI) - I should test it out. I'll let you know what I see tomorrow!
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Sounds good I am interested to see what happens. I am currently streaming between 1.6 and 2.0 mb/secs locally using the wireless router Verizion put in when I got Fios. My iphone streams locally between 300k - 600k usually.
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Sounds good I am interested to see what happens. I am currently streaming between 1.6 and 2.0 mb/secs locally using the wireless router Verizion put in when I got Fios. My iphone streams locally between 300k - 600k usually.
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VeganGinger just gives me a black screen and spinning "buffering" with the Vulkano inside the home. Meh. Not so good!
For the record, Vulkano (Monsoon) refuses to support G Tab and Android 2.2 at all. I'm now in a legal war with these clowns. be careful on CM7 as you may still encounter buffering quite often and screen lockups.
Vulkano issues on CM7 for Evo
I have the Vulkano player working flawlessly on my Nook Color running CM7.1 RC1
However, I cannot for the life of me get it working CM7 and my Evo 4G. Tried the stable and testing builds. I'm still debating if I really want to move to a nighly, but I might just do it to see if it works and restore back to 7.1 RC1.
BTW, I'm so happy they finally have a root process for the Evo 4G on Gingerbread!
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I have the Vulkano player working flawlessly on my Nook Color running CM7.1 RC1
However, I cannot for the life of me get it working CM7 and my Evo 4G. Tried the stable and testing builds. I'm still debating if I really want to move to a nighly, but I might just do it to see if it works and restore back to 7.1 RC1.
BTW, I'm so happy they finally have a root process for the Evo 4G on Gingerbread!
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Hello,
I am trying to make if possible the android vulkano application to work with 4.4.2 or Lollipop and stream while the screen is off.
This was possible with my 2.3.7. But with newer devices seems impossible. I am digging up some old vulkano posts incase somebody figured this out.
Thank you very much.
After months of pondering about buying a cheap, but highly rated Android tablet, I took a plunge and bought Viewsonic gtabs, Android 2.2, from tigerdirect.com. Turns out a smart decision! Me & my family love the gtabs, our first, without having to spend double the cost for more expensive Android tablets or iPad. Nice gadgets, at a cheap price. I wish it has hdmi port though. But these are mainly for my kids, to play and to learn, so no hdmi is not a major issue.
Anyhow, I flashed one of gtabs to Gtabcomb Beta 3.3, from my stock TapNTap ROM. I love the speed and performance of Comb, but I currently have the following issues with the Comb:
- Can't play most youtube HD clips in big screen like the stock ROM. I was able to play a few, and compare both side by side, the stock video is more smooth, and better resolution, and in bigger screen.
- Can't play flash on starfall.com, like the stock ROM. Since the gtabs are for my kids, this is a major disappointment.
- Netflix resolution doesn't look good as when played on stock ROM gtab.
- stock camera app doesn't work anymore.
Do you have the same issues with Gtabcomb Beta 3.3 version? I assume a fix is coming soon with new Gtabcomb version?
Thanks to those who spend time on developing this 3.3 version, and sharing steps and experience. Great job!
If video is so important, I would recomend sticking with a Froyo rom since they are the only ones with true, full hardware acceleration. If it's the HC launcher you really like, maybe give the VTL or ADW launchers a try.
Huge thread over in the Android Development forum
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The HD video issue is due to the lack of a hardware acceleration in Honeycomb roms. The camera is a known issue and is listed as a known issue in the Gtabcomb thread in the download post. Flash doesn't work in the stock browser but if you download Opera Mobile it should work fine. Not sure aabout the Netflix issue (I don't have Netflix) but it may be related to the no hardware acceleration issue.
Great ROM though, I just flashed it installed it last night myself. Do yourself a favor and replace the keyboard with Thumb Keyboard, you won't regret it.
Yes, HC is a good ROM, very fast. But said, youtube video playback isn't as smooth as clear as the stock 2.2 ROM. I can't play starfall.com (can you try out to see if it works on your gtab or not? ) either, even though i can play flash enabled embedded video clip inside CNN.com.
I currently have 1 in VEGAn-TAB, and 1 in HC. Both work pretty well, but I like the HC better, as it's faster.
I waiting for a new release to fix the smooth video issue and the flash issue. Until then, I love my gtab with HC.
Thx.
I use Opera browser to play flash sites like starfall.com. Works fine. The stock browser just plays sound with no video. I believe this is a known issue.
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Yes, HC is a good ROM, very fast. But said, youtube video playback isn't as smooth as clear as the stock 2.2 ROM. I can't play starfall.com (can you try out to see if it works on your gtab or not? ) either, even though i can play flash enabled embedded video clip inside CNN.com.
I currently have 1 in VEGAn-TAB, and 1 in HC. Both work pretty well, but I like the HC better, as it's faster.
I waiting for a new release to fix the smooth video issue and the flash issue. Until then, I love my gtab with HC.
Thx.
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Could you run a quick HW acceleration test on both tablets and let us know:
http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/
My PC, firefox ----------> 60+ fps.
My gtab, HC alpha -----> 4 fps.
Thanks
I got 6fps using firefox beta on gtabcomb 3.3
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I just ran it on a Gtab with Opera on Brilliant Corners 1.2.1 w/ Pershoots latest and got 6fps as well.
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I got 6fps using firefox beta on gtabcomb 3.3
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Screen Orientation and other issues
I installed the GtabComb 3.3 today. Everything works fine except the following:
1. Screen orientation does not change when I rotate the tab. It's stuck in landscape mode. There is no auto-rotate option in Settings, which is weird. I see only brightness, animation, timeout and screenshot in Screen Settings. I'm using the default launcher.
2. Flash videos only play the audio part, no video
Does anyone know the fix for any of these? Thanks a lot!
the screen orentation is probably turned on in the settings causeing the rotation lock as for flash it will not play in the stock browser try opra mobile hope this helps
You guys realize there is a huge thread on this rom already in the development section
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Autorotation issue Fixed
I managed to find why my screen orientation was fixed. There is an option called 'lock screen orientation' near the time on the home screen. I changed it to OFF and the screen now autorotates. Hope this helps someone!
I installed this rom too and it is OK for me. Very smooth and fast. Thanks to zyhong!
I installed this rom yesterday after nvflash my g tablet; download when ok after reboot i experience to many force close, flash not playing well camara as well. browser and the rest of the rom it's working just fine
I got the following:
- 13fps for the stock browser
- 18fps for my HP EliteBook 8440p, Chrome
- Opera Mobile: very slow starting the test program. It got stuck at, "How fast is your browser?" for a long time, ~few minutes. When it starts, it is just sitting there at..."Working..."
I've been using Opera Mobile the past few weeks. it works great and fast. Not sure what the issue is.
One app that doesn't work right is the Ants Smasher. On the VEGAn-TAB GingerEdition STABLE RC1 ROM on my 1st gtab, it works fine and nice, in big screen. On my 2nd GTabcomb 3.3 Beta gtab, the app launches and works, but in very small screen.
Do you have the same issue?
BTW, starfall.com's flash does work for me now on my Gtabcomb 3.3. Using it to read books with my kids...Yay! Very happy on that. Now, if the youtube HD video/Netflix playback issue gets fixed on gtabcomb 3.3, ie, it plays smooth and in big screen, that would be awesome!!! Netflix works fine, but not as smooth as the stock Android 2.2 (when I initially got it on my gtabs).
I'm currently running GtabComb and all is well except for known honeycomb issues. Anyone that wants to apply a logo where the small "android" text is at boot. I have a thread at slatedroid in Gtablet theme section.I have a bunch of different logos to choose from and all you need is clockworkmod installed.Each logo is in its own update.zip file that can be loaded like any rom, but it only loads image.Strangely it speeds up boot time and doesn't sit for long time like it does at the "android" text..I haven't figured out why yet but is a pleasant bonus.
I would post a link but I am new here and have to wait.
igorv said:
I'm currently running GtabComb and all is well except for known honeycomb issues. Anyone that wants to apply a logo where the small "android" text is at boot. I have a thread at slatedroid in Gtablet theme section.I have a bunch of different logos to choose from and all you need is clockworkmod installed.Each logo is in its own update.zip file that can be loaded like any rom, but it only loads image.Strangely it speeds up boot time and doesn't sit for long time like it does at the "android" text..I haven't figured out why yet but is a pleasant bonus.
I would post a link but I am new here and have to wait.
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http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/20807-boot-logos-replace-2nd-logo-flashable-with-cwm/page__p__217961__fromsearch__1#entry217961
I've used your logos for both my first and second startup screens thanks for the good work
kdnguyen said:
After months of pondering about buying a cheap, but highly rated Android tablet, I took a plunge and bought Viewsonic gtabs, Android 2.2, from tigerdirect.com. Turns out a smart decision! Me & my family love the gtabs, our first, without having to spend double the cost for more expensive Android tablets or iPad. Nice gadgets, at a cheap price. I wish it has hdmi port though. But these are mainly for my kids, to play and to learn, so no hdmi is not a major issue.
Anyhow, I flashed one of gtabs to Gtabcomb Beta 3.3, from my stock TapNTap ROM. I love the speed and performance of Comb, but I currently have the following issues with the Comb:
- Can't play most youtube HD clips in big screen like the stock ROM. I was able to play a few, and compare both side by side, the stock video is more smooth, and better resolution, and in bigger screen.
- Can't play flash on starfall.com, like the stock ROM. Since the gtabs are for my kids, this is a major disappointment.
- Netflix resolution doesn't look good as when played on stock ROM gtab.
- stock camera app doesn't work anymore.
Do you have the same issues with Gtabcomb Beta 3.3 version? I assume a fix is coming soon with new Gtabcomb version?
Thanks to those who spend time on developing this 3.3 version, and sharing steps and experience. Great job!
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didnt u even read the known issue list?
Hi All,
I've been trying to figure out how to get my CM7 NT to stream Netflix in the HD quality of the stock Nook ROM.
I've tried several edits to the build.prop (ro.product.____ and ro.build.___), to no avail.
Are there any specific lines in the current CM7 Internal build.prop that prevent Netflix from streaming in HD, like how the NT comes originally? Or is it some other issue with the CM7 build? Has anybody on CM7 gotten this to work?
Many thanks in advance.
Unless there's been a development I'm not aware of as of right now, you can't, it has to do with the fact that hardware acceleration isn't fully supported in non Stock ROMs. In addition the stock app is believed to be coded differently for the hardware.
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Unless there's been a development I'm not aware of as of right now, you can't, it has to do with the fact that hardware acceleration isn't fully supported in non Stock ROMs. In addition the stock app is believed to be coded differently for the hardware.
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I wish that part about the stock app was true, but the stock app works identically to the version that you get in the Google Play store. Reinstalling the stock version on CM7 via Titanium Backup gets you the same low-quality video and delayed audio that you'd get on the downloaded app.
But hardware acceleration will be here, it's just taking a little while. We're very fortunate to have Rebellos, a recognized XDA developer, joining the new-kernel project. He says he plans to start contributing to the project in about a week.
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But hardware acceleration will be here, it's just taking a little while. We're very fortunate to have Rebellos, a recognized XDA developer, joining the new-kernel project. He says he plans to start contributing to the project in about a week.
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Ah, so it's a hardware acceleration issue then, rather than Netflix<-> build.prop device incompatibility? I thought that was done and fixed in the latest CM7 release?
Also stoked to have Rebellos on board.
i thought cm7 had full HW acceleration- and from using it vs using the rooted nook tablet it DOES play movies Better (i can play/stream a bluray.mp4 file on CM7 Fine, it stutters and hangs using the rooted nook(mx video player streaming over my wireless network for both examples) , it is CM9 that is having problem with the ducati timer conflict with backlight timer....the issue is the hd version of netflix if i remember correctly required the locked bootchain blah blah to get the hd version. not sure if that version will run on cm7 i just installed netflix from googlestore and use that.
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Ah, so it's a hardware acceleration issue then, rather than Netflix<-> build.prop device incompatibility? I thought that was done and fixed in the latest CM7 release?
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lenardo said:
i thought cm7 had full HW acceleration- and from using it vs using the rooted nook tablet it DOES play movies Better (i can play/stream a bluray.mp4 file on CM7 Fine, it stutters and hangs using the rooted nook(mx video player streaming over my wireless network for both examples) , it is CM9 that is having problem with the ducati timer conflict with backlight timer....the issue is the hd version of netflix if i remember correctly required the locked bootchain blah blah to get the hd version. not sure if that version will run on cm7 i just installed netflix from googlestore and use that.
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If that were true, I think we'd already have hardware acceleration in CM9. After all, it would mean that source code for a hardware-accelerated graphics driver on the Nook Tablet was available. The whole reason Rebellos is joining the project is because we lack said source code.
Celtic did fix a video performance bug in CM7, but as far as I know it was mainly related to video playback and decoding, not graphics drivers. I might be wrong about that (I'm not a developer myself, I just follow it closely) but that's what the situation looks like right now.
Like I said, there's no difference between the Google Play downloadable Netflix app and the one that comes with your Nook Tablet. The key difference is the underlying firmware - stock, for some reason, gets HD-quality and synced up sound while CM7 gets low-quality and delayed sound. I've been following this one issue closely since it's my one pet peeve with the custom firmware we've got available. Hopefully, though, the devs will sort it out. They all seem like competent and talented folks.
the problem is 99.9% of the universe apparently for cm9(ICS) uses gptimer 11 for ducati...and the backlight some other timer
the nook tablet -currently- HAS to run the backlight on.....gptimer 11, the devs- i believe- have found a ducati on a different timer and they are working on adapting it to run on the nook tablet, once that is fixed- the cm9 devs will progress faster