T-mobile note users ....
I'm posting this thread as a request for information today.....let me explain.
Within the past few weeks, many members have reported sim card errors on their tmo devices after root and flash of custom roms.
I personally know about 5 devices within the week that have suffered this failure.....3 of which, have been recovered by downgrading to Gingerbread .....
I'm sure there are many more sim issues we haven't heard about, as they likely haven't posted.
My intent here, is to have as many tmo users as possible, post your flash success or failure, in an attempt to prevent more sim failure issues.
Although I'm an ATT note user, I'm willing to help monitor and collect data here, so future users won't suffer the same fate.
2 of these failed devices were sent for repair, even though they were only days old, and worked perfectly prior to root and flash.
So please, if you are using the T-mobile network........please post your history and results.
Together we will likely find the cause .
And perhaps generate enough attention to the issues, that a fix can be found...
I am not attempting to cause panic, but I feel we need to fix the problem now, before we have dozens of affected units, rather than just a few.
Many thanks in advance ....g
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I would mention that many t-mobile subscribers cannot get good data and voice while using the at&t version of the note. With the choice of an at&t and a t-mobile model, you should get the t-mobile model -- you will be happier in the long run.
Happy T-mobile user
rangercaptain said:
I would mention that many t-mobile subscribers cannot get good data and voice while using the at&t version of the note. With the choice of an at&t and a t-mobile model, you should get the t-mobile model -- you will be happier in the long run.
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I bought an AT&T note off craigslist about a month ago. It was unlocked, before I handed over the cash I put my T-mobile sim in and called a friend he said it sounded great so I bought it. I did a couple of speed tests with it and usually get between 3 and 6 mbps down and a lot slower up. I've had no problems, everything works great including GPS. It's running ICS 4.04 stock AT&T ROM and the baseband is unknown. I don't know who unlocked and set it up but they did a great job as far as I'm concerned. YMMV
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It's all good ranger ....
Any and all info on the T-Mobile network while using the ATT note is welcome ....even the success stories.
I did request both in the OP, as I feel that we need both sides of the user responses to nail this thing down.
I do appreciate your response, and ask you for any assistance you can provide here.
This problem is so odd .....as it's not a brick ....but yet it is ....g
I sold my note to a TMo user...called them today(two days after) and they said it was working amazing....it was rooted and unlocked by an amazingly awesome person though(haha jkjk). The guy never rooted before and said the speed tests were rocking his gfs GS3 in TMo and the clarity of the call was great as well....ait could be a root issue or ROM issue though...
As far as unlocking if the pgones unlocked any way except for calling ATT customer care there is always that risk...plus a three minute phone call and giving someone your imei shouldnt be too much hassle .. So theres that dudes exoeruence from someone that knows what they are doing(kind of)...
The rom I left him on was AOCP CP3 by the collective jsyk
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I unlocked my phone from ebay, running the latest blackstar Rom, and im getting speeds that my old T989 get. No sim card issues.
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Kflan....
noting the unlock method here.....
I believe you are right.....We have many service unlock options, but only one that is safe....and thats the carrier method...
could this be as simple as users not unlocking the sim prior to root and flash ??? or an improper unlock ???
I'm hoping we can get some users in here to clarify that possibility for us.
Many thanks for bringing that up....g
Thank you Rob....
I appreciate the reply, and I'm glad your device is working as it should...
Several others are not so lucky....g
gregsarg said:
Thank you Rob....
I appreciate the reply, and I'm glad your device is working as it should...
Several others are not so lucky....g
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Was it a specific Rom or recovery that caused their problem?
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Rob4828 said:
Was it a specific Rom or recovery that caused their problem?
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Users on the T-Mobile network, are losing the ability too see or access the sim card, after rooting and flashing the device with a custom rom.
Generally they are flashing ICS, but we also have some users reporting sim loss while using GB roms as well.
We know a few things that are leading to a possible cause.
The first is the carrier offset (my term for t-mobile users with an ATT device )
The second is the need for carrier unlock for the device to be used at all with t-mobile.
The third is the inability to restore "any " sim activity after the failure....(although a few users have been successful after a complete unroot and downgrade to GB .
Although I haven't yet found a pattern in this ....I have reason to believe we are seeing a carrier related lockout of some kind, as the sim functions fine in other devices, and the device functions normally minus it's ability to detect the sim or any network.
Perhaps a good next step, would be to re-lock the device to the carrier again, after a complete stock restore of the device.
I wish that we had an affected device to try this with, but unfortunately, the affected users are returning the device for repair or replacement.
Not all users will, as they need a working device immediately, and are trying desperately to restore functionality.
That being said, I'm hoping this thread will draw an affected user here, so we can explore more aggressive, and hopefully effective solutions.
I can't ask anyone to risk a device beyond their willingness to try, and with some proactive thoughts from our fantastic user base, we will crack this problem open, and create a fix.
We all know the risks involved in flashing firmware images, but since we are now crossing not only the root/flash barrier, we are adding the carrier change into the mix. And that brings it's own unique set of challenges to the table.
I sincerely appreciate any and all help, in my search to help our note users succeed in fixing the ghost in this machine ....g
I know this is a noob question but I've been reading all these t-mo service/I717 threads cuz I'm thinking of doing this. Does rooting the phone unlock it? I'm on the liquid jb rom.
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I would like to echo what rangercaptain said earlier in the thread, regarding the fact that the SGH-I717 was never designed to run on the T-Mobile network.
And although we have virtually identical hardware and operational features, clearly something is different enough to cause this issue.
And I "do not " believe it is user error.
In the meantime, I would advise any user thinking about converting the ATT note to use on the T-Mobile network, to think very hard before attempting to do so......at least, until a verified and working solution can be found.
Ultimately, we need a bone stock ATT note, and a t-mobile user brave enough to try the process repeatedly, until the cause is identified, by eliminating one process at a time ...g
nystreak said:
I know this is a noob question but I've been reading all these t-mo service/I717 threads cuz I'm thinking of doing this. Does rooting the phone unlock it? I'm on the liquid jb rom.
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Rooting a device simply gives it's user the administrator rights needed to access the protected system and data sections of the device, that are normally reserved to the factory, carrier, and programming engineers of the software.
It does nothing to unlock you from your carrier.
That is done by contacting the carrier, and requesting that service.
It is also possible to be unlocked by a third party, but clearly their are risks involved in doing so while using the ATT note on the t-mobile network.
We are working very hard to correct the current "no sim card present" issue ...g
gregsarg said:
T-mobile note users ....
I'm posting this thread as a request for information today.....let me explain.
Within the past few weeks, many members have reported sim card errors on their tmo devices after root and flash of custom roms.
I personally know about 5 devices within the week that have suffered this failure.....3 of which, have been recovered by downgrading to Gingerbread .....
I'm sure there are many more sim issues we haven't heard about, as they likely haven't posted.
My intent here, is to have as many tmo users as possible, post your flash success or failure, in an attempt to prevent more sim failure issues.
Although I'm an ATT note user, I'm willing to help monitor and collect data here, so future users won't suffer the same fate.
2 of these failed devices were sent for repair, even though they were only days old, and worked perfectly prior to root and flash.
So please, if you are using the T-mobile network........please post your history and results.
Together we will likely find the cause .
And perhaps generate enough attention to the issues, that a fix can be found...
I am not attempting to cause panic, but I feel we need to fix the problem now, before we have dozens of affected units, rather than just a few.
Many thanks in advance ....g
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I have been running the AT&T i717 note on the T-Mo network since Tomin figured out how to get the 4g working, many months ago. I have not had problems with voice quality or sim card issues. I have run the Saurom GB roms, Goldie's Only1, many ICS roms, and now am on the stock T-Mo rom with the Blaze ICS modem.Tried all the modems, and Blaze works best for me. YMMV. I got a new sim from T-Mo to enable wifi calling. My data averages 3-5 megs, upload 1-1.8 megs, but at work I regularly hit 14 meg download. But like everyone, the speed is erratic, but functional for everything I do, including streaming netflix. My speeds were faster and more consistant with the GB roms, but the ICS speeds are plenty fast. I unlocked my phone with cellunlocker.com I think was the service. Nothing but a success story with my AT&T note on T-Mobile. And I get to keep my unlimited, unthrottled $5.99/month grandfathered data plan with 4g (if I used a "known" to T-Mo 4g phone I would have to upgrade. The AT&T note is "unknown" to T-Mo, If I got the T-Mo note it would trigger new data charges). For me, this is the point of the whole excersize. I have been lucky, and the Phoenix area has good coverage for me as far as T-Mo. This has been my experience.
SadSack1 said:
I have been running the AT&T i717 note on the T-Mo network since Tomin figured out how to get the 4g working, many months ago. I have not had problems with voice quality or sim card issues. I have run the Saurom GB roms, Goldie's Only1, many ICS roms, and now am on the stock T-Mo rom with the Blaze ICS modem.Tried all the modems, and Blaze works best for me. YMMV. I got a new sim from T-Mo to enable wifi calling. My data averages 3-5 megs, upload 1-1.8 megs, but at work I regularly hit 14 meg download. But like everyone, the speed is erratic, but functional for everything I do, including streaming netflix. My speeds were faster and more consistant with the GB roms, but the ICS speeds are plenty fast. I unlocked my phone with cellunlocker.com I think was the service. Nothing but a success story with my AT&T note on T-Mobile. And I get to keep my unlimited, unthrottled $5.99/month grandfathered data plan with 4g (if I used a "known" to T-Mo 4g phone I would have to upgrade. The AT&T note is "unknown" to T-Mo, If I got the T-Mo note it would trigger new data charges). For me, this is the point of the whole excersize. I have been lucky, and the Phoenix area has good coverage for me as far as T-Mo. This has been my experience.
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Many thanks for this great post !!
this is exactly what I'm looking for !!
A detailed review of the device activity....It seems you are indeed the lucky one today. And I appreciate your willingness to post up...
Should you see any odd behavior on the device, in particular any sim error messages etc. please post here if you dont mind.......g
Never had problems flashing ROMS, have a i717 with Simple Mobile (Tmo signal). Flashed everything, from GB to JB. Running right now FJ's JB AOSPxXx v2.1 and running like a charm!
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Never had problems flashing ROMS, have a i717 with Simple Mobile (Tmo signal). Flashed everything, from GB to JB. Running right now FJ's JB AOSPxXx v2.1 and running like a charm!
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Good news as well....
So far we are 2 for 2 ......too the positive......in this thread.
Lets hope that trend continues...
Many thanks Master....g
Mine was rooted then I unlocked it so maybe try rooting first unlocking second?
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I have been browsing these forums for a few days now and i'm wondering, I got a thunderbolt, rooted, tried a couple different radios, and i'm banging my head against the wall trying to figure out if it can be done.
I am a little bit of a noob when it comes to cellular phones but i have learned alot in the past week about CDMA, GSM, LTE and the sim cards. I have played with the android SDK a little bit have not published anything yet but It is a hobby currently that may go a little farther than that. also i read and understand that verizon phones do not natively use sim cards.
anyways, my phone recognizes that there is a sim card in it now when the T-Mobile card is in. and as a result I am led to the conclusion that it has something to do with the radio I am using.
Other maybe useful information (which could also be another thing in need of a solution) is the T-mobile phone I am using the sim card from was from a nokia phone that cost me $50.00 for the phone and service for a month.
Does the Sim card cause an issue switching it from a non-smartphone to a smartphone?
Other useful information is I am using the Thunderstick ROM
Revolutionary Rooted
HBoot(which I am unsure of the function of hboot) 6.04.1002
Radio 1.39.00.0430r
eMMC-boot
I like this phone so far and see it as a useful tool, got it from a relative after they upgraded their own.
If you need any more information let me know or if you know my problem would be helpful. again i have learned alot since i got this thing, and i've been just using the android emulator on a 6 year old computer so this is quite the present either way!
I've seen youtube videos of people going to websites and putting in codes like *#06# but i think i need a little guidance to the right direction. i'll be checking this thread daily at least. thank you in advance for reading my small wall of text
long time reader, first time poster!
No T-Mobile is GSM thunderbolt is cdma
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it was fun banging my head against the wall the past few days, learned regardless. thank you for the speedy response!
i despise verizon wireless for their prices of their contracts, i think that the only other solution to use this phone with is MetroPCS, correct me if i am wrong (just watched the guy on the XDA TV go off about how much power the major 4 cell providers in america have so much power)
seems like they have affordable plans also.
Yes, a guy on here posted that you could flash your thunderbolt to PagePlus, but keep it mind that you will have no LTE.
Whoops, it was PagePlus not MetroPCS. Fixed in post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294179
thank you so much for that last post, i guess i didn't brows through everything because i missed that one, but i was aiming for t-mobile, but i'm thinking the transition to metropcs will be smoother based on they use LTE and CDMA, either way this is more than i thought i'd bite off, but i'm still hungry.
very interesting tutorial, again thanks so much for knowing the forums better than myself.
if this was a HD2 it would be sooo easy it seems.
while tinkering is always fun, why not just pick up a t-mobile phone on craigslist? For about 200-250, you can get most of the high end t-mobile phones, and you will have hspa+ which works great for data when you can get a signal (left t-mobile due to signal issues at work).
Today on Ebay Daily Deals, Samsung Google Nexus S GSM unlocked for 299. No Contract. 200ish left.
Also I am having signal issues where I am I figure of may be a good time to test the waters and swim to a new service provider. Tinkering is fun and educational. Found the service provider that fits the phone and think it will be fun
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Also I am having signal issues where I am I figure of may be a good time to test the waters and swim to a new service provider. Tinkering is fun and educational. Found the service provider that fits the phone and think it will be fun
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Especially since you'll be seeing Tmobile become ATT.
Alright so ill start this of by saying, Picked up my note today and loving it so far. Got it rooted thanks to Da G and getting ready to get into roms.
Anyway im making this thread to see if anyone else has tried anything out on the non-AT&T notes(i.e I717M and what not). So far from what i have read people are developing mostly for the AT&T model and saying its not for bell rogers or telus. Now I have been in the samsung world for a while and when it comes to my galaxy there was always ways around this.
For instance most of my ROMs were made for the international version not my bell version. But as long as I kept a copy of the bell modem on my phone i could just flash that and the ROM worked great. So does anyone have a copy of the bell telus or rogers modem for the note? or know if there all the same?
Another example in the galaxy s world was the captivate(Same soft keys as our phones). A person with a captivate could flash an international ROM as long they made a soft key fix when they developed the ROM.
One of the main reasons I ask all of this is because i see so many N7000 ROMs up and running and am wondering what will and wont work.
Look forward to hearing from you all
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For instance most of my ROMs were made for the international version not my bell version. But as long as I kept a copy of the bell modem on my phone i could just flash that and the ROM worked great. So does anyone have a copy of the bell telus or rogers modem for the note? or know if there all the same?
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you can get all the carrier radio/modem, and even the kernel from carrier here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506212
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and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630843
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sorry, I also forgot this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589389
Bell note here. Been. The at & t roms with no problem.
The only issue that I have is the Yellow Pages crap that appears in my contact list as well as at& t bloat depending on the rom. Easy enough to deal with though.
Aside from that, it's been perfect.
Currently on Team Perfection 4.0.4.
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I forgot to add that I haven't had any issues with data speeds at all.
Also, Don't venture into the N7000 roms because they will not work.
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The N7000 ROMs can hard brick your phone since the hardware if the two models are completely different. AS Far as ROMs go, most are based off the AT&T software simply because that's the only ICS leak we have available. But you can use any ROM for the i717 on your Bell Note. I have a Bell Note and flashed almost every ROM and never ran into any problems. Also, Ruth the help ofa lot of people on this sure, I've made stock images of the Bell, Telus, and Rogers Notes so we can always go back. Best if luck and don't hesitate to ask anything.
Thanks for the info, I get mine today and was wondering the same thing.
Yesterday I flashed my Rogers Branded Galaxy i717 with Bell Rom and Kernel and have not 1 issue. I chose to flash the rogers i717 with Bell because I use bell mobiletv and this was the only way to get this particular app to work. Again not 1 issue with data or anything else.
No Rooted device either. Just flashed using ODIN.
I'm currently running the UCLE2 Rom on my Rogers i717. I've noticed that I am not getting LTE where I should be. And GPS connectivity is shoddy at best.
I have a second i717 which is stock that is with me to compare (family member).
I am going to flash the Rogers modem to hopefully correct atleast the LTE issue. Anyone know if this would improve my GPS connectivity as well?
For a number of years I have been buying Canadian phones to use on ATT. Canadain ROMs have less restrictions than ATT. For instance tethering and NFC are not locked. Also after rooting my Roger's Note it took under a minute to remove the Rogers branding. (all except splash screen) I was left with a fully optioned unbranded ROM.
I did want to try the stock UCLE2 ROM out of curiosity but I thought it would not install because my phone was not an ATT I717. How did you install it eugenekim618? Personally I would rather wait for the Rogers ICS version. Keep checking everyday to see if it is available.
I have tried quite of a few of the ROMS on here with my Bell i717M, no problems at all so far, other than the "android.phone has stopped working" at startup, I don't know the cause but it only happens at boot.
DO NOT use N7000 roms! But all of the AT&T stuff has worked great for me.
Agoattamer said:
For a number of years I have been buying Canadian phones to use on ATT. Canadain ROMs have less restrictions than ATT. For instance tethering and NFC are not locked. Also after rooting my Roger's Note it took under a minute to remove the Rogers branding. (all except splash screen) I was left with a fully optioned unbranded ROM.
I did want to try the stock UCLE2 ROM out of curiosity but I thought it would not install because my phone was not an ATT I717. How did you install it eugenekim618? Personally I would rather wait for the Rogers ICS version. Keep checking everyday to see if it is available.
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I followed the posts in the Dev section to Root the phone.
Then installed CWM.
The picked a ROM I thought was good and followed the instructions in it's respective post to install.
I've done a lot of ROM installs for the Dell Streak I used to have and for a Sony Xperia X10.
So I am not totally unfamiliar with the process. Just a matter of getting used to the delivery method for each manufacturer. And then, dealing with the quirks of a ROM that is not 100% for your carrier. Goes with the territory, right?
I tried to read all the posts in a given thread as much as I can.
So you are saying you didn't install the one click odin stock UCLE2 ROM?
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So you are saying you didn't install the one click odin stock UCLE2 ROM?
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No, that doesn't work for non AT&T phones I believe. I tried it, and ODIN recognized the COM, but failed to install. From my readings, can't do the one click install on Rogers since it's not a Rogers ROM.
all custom roms should work no problem, ive flashed tons on my unlocked bell note.
its the stock odin files when you want to make sure you get the proper device.
Hey guys Ive flashed pretty much all the roms I can and some I cant lol. So far my experiances have encountered a few setbacks but nothing substantial and allot if not most of the bugs and glitchs occurring in the first & second gen of roms have been fixed or patched.
As far as roms go as was already mentioned as long as you stay away from n7000 model roms and stick to i727 youll be ok. With at&t roms I always seem to have signal and gps issues. Generally tho I find my signal problem will clear itself up on its own and I believe is actually just just caused by the fresh software 'settling in', even though my signal appears low or fluctuating speed testing always shows Im getting peak d/l & u/l speeds. If the signal doesnt seem to improve flashing the Bell stock modem via cwm always does the trick. Gps usually works great, very fast & accurate, when Im having location issues I use the 'faster fix' app from the market, I dont know about anyone elses experiance but allot of the times theres a problem the gps server isnt set to the normal 'north america pool' but servers Ive never seen before or set to an 'international pool'.
All in all besides signal headaches the only other recurring problems are the inherent and unpredictable random force closing of system apps. It can be pretty random but I find a few constant trouble makers to be at&t software update, android phone. At&t update can be disabled easily under applications in the main settings or I was able to actually remove it using 'rom toolbox's app manager but strangely not with root toolboxs remove system apps. For pretty much all other f/c problems the remedy is a running of 'fix permissions', there are a bunch of ways/apps to do it and Ive found using 'rom manager' works the best meanwhile rebooting into recovery and fixing permissions from there will actually cause more problems.
Ok so those are the most recurring and annoying issues Ive had to name a few but the list is too big to write merely because Ive tried just about every rom right from the sketchiest unstable first releases and everything in between lol so feel free to drop me line if your stuck on a problem cause I might be able to help.
But before I end this novel here lol I just flashed the new 'OnlyOne Beta2' rom from the development section and it runs great. The rom is super stable, very fast and features both fully functional S Voice app and fully functional S Notes app. If you havnt tried S Notes yet its awesome the new functions and abilities totally blew me away so I highly recommend you give this rom a try!
eugenekim618 said:
I'm currently running the UCLE2 Rom on my Rogers i717. I've noticed that I am not getting LTE where I should be. And GPS connectivity is shoddy at best.
I have a second i717 which is stock that is with me to compare (family member).
I am going to flash the Rogers modem to hopefully correct atleast the LTE issue. Anyone know if this would improve my GPS connectivity as well?
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If you had LTE before and lost it through flashing a custom ROM or whatever then try changing your APN to your Carrier LTE network. If you never had LTE when you bought your phone, probably the seller gave you a wrong sim. tell her to give you a 403 LTE capable sim, the 401 is only 4G.
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If you had LTE before and lost it through flashing a custom ROM or whatever then try changing your APN to your Carrier LTE network. If you never had LTE when you bought your phone, probably the seller gave you a wrong sim. tell her to give you a 403 LTE capable sim, the 401 is only 4G.
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Thanks for the tip. But I got everything running again. I did have LTE to start, and have a LTE sim card. The *#2263* certainly helped. And Flapjaxxx's GPS tools in his ROM helped me get the GPS back up to par.
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Thanks for the tip. But I got everything running again. I did have LTE to start, and have a LTE sim card. The *#2263* certainly helped. And Flapjaxxx's GPS tools in his ROM helped me get the GPS back up to par.
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ok now I just lost my LTE after flashing new ROM from Seraphim Stratosphere. How did you get it back. I factory wipe everything and flash Rogers modem and it doesn't work. How did you manage to get LTE back? btw I have a Canadian Note with Rogers. the Saurom ROM was canadian and I had LTE too.
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ok now I just lost my LTE after flashing new ROM from Seraphim Stratosphere. How did you get it back. I factory wipe everything and flash Rogers modem and it doesn't work. How did you manage to get LTE back? btw I have a Canadian Note with Rogers. the Saurom ROM was canadian and I had LTE too.
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Try *#2263#
Then force select LTE, and select ALL. That should force the LTE connection. So watch the connection bars. You should see a loss of connection, then reconnect on LTE. Once that is established, do the code again, and just select automatic.
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Try *#2263#
Then force select LTE, and select ALL. That should force the LTE connection. So watch the connection bars. You should see a loss of connection, then reconnect on LTE. Once that is established, do the code again, and just select automatic.
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When I try dialing it, it says error can't find USSP or something like that... What does this mean?
Just to be clear that im doing the right thing. I go to the dialer and punch the code *#2263#. How do I "force select LTE"? will something popup for me to select it or should I go to settings/ wireless and networks... I don't have those options in "wireless settings", I only have APN settings...
When you are all talking about APN sims, are you talking about manipulating a phone that works for 1 carrier to also work with another carrier? If so, does it become a phone which works with both carriers?
I work in an area along the shore of Lake Michigan; for some reason Verizon has never had good coverage when close to the shore (I have experienced this problem for years, and from widely distant areas). However, some of my coworkers get good Internet using ATT, or Sprint; if there is a way for me to take advantage of this, then I want to!
Thank you.
Smegmus Magnus said:
When you are all talking about APN sims, are you talking about manipulating a phone that works for 1 carrier to also work with another carrier? If so, does it become a phone which works with both carriers?
Thank you.
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Yes, the Note2 can be used with ATT, Tmo, etc.
Smegmus Magnus said:
When you are all talking about APN sims, are you talking about manipulating a phone that works for 1 carrier to also work with another carrier? If so, does it become a phone which works with both carriers?
I work in an area along the shore of Lake Michigan; for some reason Verizon has never had good coverage when close to the shore (I have experienced this problem for years, and from widely distant areas). However, some of my coworkers get good Internet using ATT, or Sprint; if there is a way for me to take advantage of this, then I want to!
Thank you.
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There was a thread in here somewhere about someone who flashed an AT&T rom and had it working perfectly. Can't remember where it was, but that would be your best bet.
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Thanks for the replies.
So; does flashing an ATT rom mean my phone will no longer work on Verizon?
Also; if I were to flash a rom allowing ATT compatability, does that mean I would have to return my phone to stock, and flash an ATT-specific custom rom? As it is, I'm on Beans 17, and love it.
Smegmus Magnus said:
Thanks for the replies.
So; does flashing an ATT rom mean my phone will no longer work on Verizon?
Also; if I were to flash a rom allowing ATT compatability, does that mean I would have to return my phone to stock, and flash an ATT-specific custom rom? As it is, I'm on Beans 17, and love it.
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No returning to stock for anything unless your trying to recover a soft brick. Everyone in this damn forum is so hung up on returning to stock for this or that. Once your rooted and have a custom recovery installed thats it your done. Forever........... If u want to flash a different rom wipe in recovery and flash away...... Thats all there is to android. Well from a user standpoint anyways.
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If you're on a Verizon phone you should stick with a Verizon based rom or intentional based rom made for Verizon. To CORRECTLY use another carrier's rom on your phone, you need to change APNs, csc files, lib files, framework files/code and probably some other files depending on the rom. Your best bet is to use a rom like Scott's ACE Cleanrom. When you flash it aroma allows you to choose other carriers. You can flash it once, choose at&t, set it up and make a nandroid. Then wipe everything and do the same for Verizon. Then all you would have to do is flash between the two nandroids.
@Mao04 & RomsWell,
Thank you both for your responses, you've both eased my mind and saved me a lot of trouble...
... I've decided '**** it!'. I really don't like talking on the phone anyway (or texting), and I can handle 8 hour workshifts without indulging in my addiction for news.
Besides, I'm loving Beans 17.
Thanks again.
I recently purchased a new Samsung Galaxy 4S for use on the Verizon network. I immediately installed Odin / CWP and flashed a couple of different ROMs to see which I might prefer. The issue I'm needing help with is that even when I select the network mode as LTE/CDMA I only seem to be getting the 3G wording in my cell's display. The phone has a 4G SIM card but to my knowledge none of this should be having an ill effect on the phones ability to connect to 4G. Any advice or suggestions?
Get a new SIM from Verizon. Myself and a handful of others have experienced this issue of the phone preferring EVDO over LTE.
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najaboy said:
Get a new SIM from Verizon. Myself and a handful of others have experienced this issue of the phone preferring EVDO over LTE.
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Thank you for the response. I have an additional question then.. if I go into a Verizon store with my phone, now obviously rooted and customized, will I be denied this service? This is my first time not keeping the phone entirely stock so I'm unfamiliar with the legalities associated with such a thing.
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Thank you for the response. I have an additional question then.. if I go into a Verizon store with my phone, now obviously rooted and customized, will I be denied this service? This is my first time not keeping the phone entirely stock so I'm unfamiliar with the legalities associated with such a thing.
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Most don't care and pretend to not notice. Or they'll laugh and geek out with you. I wouldn't go in with anything AOSP based though. Choose something that looks close to stock. It's not likely they'll check your recovery. If you're that paranoid about it though, then just flash to stock but keep custom recovery. When you're finished in the store then restore a backup of your current preference.
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Amorfus said:
Thank you for the response. I have an additional question then.. if I go into a Verizon store with my phone, now obviously rooted and customized, will I be denied this service? This is my first time not keeping the phone entirely stock so I'm unfamiliar with the legalities associated with such a thing.
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Nah, all your asking for is a sim update. I work in mobile phones myself, and I love having convos with customers about their rooted phones and mods all the time.
I am having the same issues. I went in today on liquidsmooth and got a new sim no problem.. Only thing is, my phone still has the connectivity issues
I got a new SIM card from a Vzw store and now everything works great.
Hello forum-goers! It seems that I am at a crossroad right now. I have been researching switching to T-mobile for the past few months now (I was sold on the Wi-Fi calling feature). I just had a few questions before doing so.
1) Would you guys recommend switching over to T-Mo now or should I wait for the new, new to to switch over (I haven't owned an HTC since the Touch Pro 2 and the One is a pretty sweet device).
2) Does anyone have the insurance/JUMP program, I am pretty clumsy with my phone so I have the insurance with Sprint on my current Samsung Galaxy S II? Would you recommend getting a different type of insurance (like SquareTrade)?
3) Does anyone have any experience using this device in the SF Bay Area? I have heard plenty of good news, but it's mostly in different states.
4) I was flashing ROMs on the Touch Pro 2 (Windows Mobile 6.x) and the E4GT is my first Android phone, what is the learning curve with HTC Android devices?
I don't have much to add but I will say WiFi calling is great to have considering T Mobile's poor building penetration. Sending and receiving text is not an issue but when having an actual phone conversation the other party can't hear you to a few seconds after you said it and the whole conversation sometimes become awkward and confusing deciding who needs to speak next, but its serves its purpose.
As far as the jump program goes its really not a bad idea as long as you get approve for no money down on the original headset or else it really makes jump seems like a bit of a rip off considering you could sell the phone yourself outright and not lose out on the initial deposit you made on the phone.
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i just switched from sprint to T-Mobile and havent looked back once. was worth the 180 ETF. I really really wanted to stay with sprint but their service just kept getting worse and worse as they "upgraded" towers. I do have the jump program and i dont see why you want to use a different insurance. its ten bucks for full insurance (sprint was 11 or 12 now i think) plus it allows you to upgrade every 6 months if you wanted to. I have the ONE and i really dont see myself upgrading anytime unless something amazing comes out. The phone really is fantastic.
I'm in NJ so no experience in SF.
Flashing is pretty simple once you do the initial setup which there is self contained programs here in forums that can help simplify that for you. right now im still on stock because i really like the wifi calling and most other roms beyond 4.2.1 dont support it yet. hopefully in the next month the update will be out.
hope this helps a bit.
Glen
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Hello forum-goers! It seems that I am at a crossroad right now. I have been researching switching to T-mobile for the past few months now (I was sold on the Wi-Fi calling feature). I just had a few questions before doing so.
1) Would you guys recommend switching over to T-Mo now or should I wait for the new, new to to switch over (I haven't owned an HTC since the Touch Pro 2 and the One is a pretty sweet device).
2) Does anyone have the insurance/JUMP program, I am pretty clumsy with my phone so I have the insurance with Sprint on my current Samsung Galaxy S II? Would you recommend getting a different type of insurance (like SquareTrade)?
3) Does anyone have any experience using this device in the SF Bay Area? I have heard plenty of good news, but it's mostly in different states.
4) I was flashing ROMs on the Touch Pro 2 (Windows Mobile 6.x) and the E4GT is my first Android phone, what is the learning curve with HTC Android devices?
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I ended up pulling the trigger and so far the experience is great.
Stock, out-the-box the device is fantastic, I've never seen something so fluid without some tweaking done to it.
The service in my house is a bit similar to Sprint but WiFi calling negates that. When traveling around I get 4GLTE pretty much every where I go. I have yet to try it in my work environment, but since that is in SF I'm sure I won't have any problems. The only thing is, I signed up for the 2 GB plan. I've never really tracked my data usage since Sprint was unlimited, so I'll just have to wait and see if that is enough.
I am still reading up on how to flash the device, it's a completely different process from my old E4GT. But I am definitely excited to be onto something new and can't wait until I am able to figure out the whole process.
Thank you both for responding to my questions!
Welcome to the T-Mobile, HTC One fam. Best decision ever I'm telling you!
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Welcome to the T-Mobile, HTC One fam. Best decision ever I'm telling you!
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Thanks, so far I am definitely loving everything. The phone is super sweet and T-Mobile's Wifi calling helps when cell reception isn't up to snuff. The only downside is the lack of T-Mobile ROMs.
Overall, I couldn't be happier.
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Thanks, so far I am definitely loving everything. The phone is super sweet and T-Mobile's Wifi calling helps when cell reception isn't up to snuff. The only downside is the lack of T-Mobile ROMs.
Overall, I couldn't be happier.
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You can flash any rom, even the international ones. You'll just lose wifi calling.
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You can flash any rom, even the international ones. You'll just lose wifi calling.
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I'm also considering moving to tmobile 99% chance I will. I currently have a sprint s4 so how would you flash the international roms? Just flash it then flash a kernel like on the S4 or just flash the rom. Thanks.
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I'm also considering moving to tmobile 99% chance I will. I currently have a sprint s4 so how would you flash the international roms? Just flash it then flash a kernel like on the S4 or just flash the rom. Thanks.
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No kernel needed. I assume you're going to get the T-mobile One and not keep the S4 right? Then yeah, no kernel needed. Just root, install twrp/cwm and flash any rom you want from the international XDA section. Its what I've done (except I have the att model unlocked to tmobile) and it works great. You can even flash the Google play edition roms too.
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You can flash any rom, even the international ones. You'll just lose wifi calling.
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I am using the $30/month 100 min/5G-4G Data. Since for prepaid, t-mobile wifi calling still eats minutes......I've swapped to using Groove IP + Google Voice for all my needs. Ported my old Sprint # To Google Voice for $20.00 and have been happy ever since.
Just have to make sure to setup Google Voice app to get all SMS's and call or chat with T-mobile CS to turn off T-Mobile voicemail, as prepaid cannot forward to google voice properly as post paid.
All in all, I'm very happy with T-mobile, and will never, ever miss sprint. Ever.
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No kernel needed. I assume you're going to get the T-mobile One and not keep the S4 right? Then yeah, no kernel needed. Just root, install twrp/cwm and flash any rom you want from the international XDA section. Its what I've done (except I have the att model unlocked to tmobile) and it works great. You can even flash the Google play edition roms too.
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Thanks for the reply I'm still debating on getting a tmo s4 or a tmo htc one but my current s4 laggs alot so the htc one seems like the better phone. Also how's the battery life?
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I'm also considering moving to tmobile 99% chance I will. I currently have a sprint s4 so how would you flash the international roms? Just flash it then flash a kernel like on the S4 or just flash the rom. Thanks.
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Coming from the Sprint GS 2 E4GT, flashing seemed so easy, with all the videos from QBKing77, the thorough guides on how to flash the phone, even the super easy one-clicks, flashing was a cake walk. After reading guides on how to flash the HTC One, I thought that I was going to end up bricking my phone.
Luckily I was able to find some videos from Flow Wolf and QBKing77 which basically walks you through the steps on Unlocking the Bootloader, obtaining root, and flashing the recovery. From there, flashing the ROM works just like it does on Samsung devices, with the exception of having to flash the kernel separately.
Last night I flashed TrickDroid 5.6.0 due to many people saying that you are still able to maintain WiFi Calling. So far, I'm loving it!
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nicotheandroidguy said:
Thanks for the reply I'm still debating on getting a tmo s4 or a tmo htc one but my current s4 laggs alot so the htc one seems like the better phone. Also how's the battery life?
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I've never had the S4 so I cant compare it to that. Its not great, but It will get you through the day fine.