Hello forum-goers! It seems that I am at a crossroad right now. I have been researching switching to T-mobile for the past few months now (I was sold on the Wi-Fi calling feature). I just had a few questions before doing so.
1) Would you guys recommend switching over to T-Mo now or should I wait for the new, new to to switch over (I haven't owned an HTC since the Touch Pro 2 and the One is a pretty sweet device).
2) Does anyone have the insurance/JUMP program, I am pretty clumsy with my phone so I have the insurance with Sprint on my current Samsung Galaxy S II? Would you recommend getting a different type of insurance (like SquareTrade)?
3) Does anyone have any experience using this device in the SF Bay Area? I have heard plenty of good news, but it's mostly in different states.
4) I was flashing ROMs on the Touch Pro 2 (Windows Mobile 6.x) and the E4GT is my first Android phone, what is the learning curve with HTC Android devices?
I don't have much to add but I will say WiFi calling is great to have considering T Mobile's poor building penetration. Sending and receiving text is not an issue but when having an actual phone conversation the other party can't hear you to a few seconds after you said it and the whole conversation sometimes become awkward and confusing deciding who needs to speak next, but its serves its purpose.
As far as the jump program goes its really not a bad idea as long as you get approve for no money down on the original headset or else it really makes jump seems like a bit of a rip off considering you could sell the phone yourself outright and not lose out on the initial deposit you made on the phone.
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i just switched from sprint to T-Mobile and havent looked back once. was worth the 180 ETF. I really really wanted to stay with sprint but their service just kept getting worse and worse as they "upgraded" towers. I do have the jump program and i dont see why you want to use a different insurance. its ten bucks for full insurance (sprint was 11 or 12 now i think) plus it allows you to upgrade every 6 months if you wanted to. I have the ONE and i really dont see myself upgrading anytime unless something amazing comes out. The phone really is fantastic.
I'm in NJ so no experience in SF.
Flashing is pretty simple once you do the initial setup which there is self contained programs here in forums that can help simplify that for you. right now im still on stock because i really like the wifi calling and most other roms beyond 4.2.1 dont support it yet. hopefully in the next month the update will be out.
hope this helps a bit.
Glen
g4me0v3r said:
Hello forum-goers! It seems that I am at a crossroad right now. I have been researching switching to T-mobile for the past few months now (I was sold on the Wi-Fi calling feature). I just had a few questions before doing so.
1) Would you guys recommend switching over to T-Mo now or should I wait for the new, new to to switch over (I haven't owned an HTC since the Touch Pro 2 and the One is a pretty sweet device).
2) Does anyone have the insurance/JUMP program, I am pretty clumsy with my phone so I have the insurance with Sprint on my current Samsung Galaxy S II? Would you recommend getting a different type of insurance (like SquareTrade)?
3) Does anyone have any experience using this device in the SF Bay Area? I have heard plenty of good news, but it's mostly in different states.
4) I was flashing ROMs on the Touch Pro 2 (Windows Mobile 6.x) and the E4GT is my first Android phone, what is the learning curve with HTC Android devices?
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I ended up pulling the trigger and so far the experience is great.
Stock, out-the-box the device is fantastic, I've never seen something so fluid without some tweaking done to it.
The service in my house is a bit similar to Sprint but WiFi calling negates that. When traveling around I get 4GLTE pretty much every where I go. I have yet to try it in my work environment, but since that is in SF I'm sure I won't have any problems. The only thing is, I signed up for the 2 GB plan. I've never really tracked my data usage since Sprint was unlimited, so I'll just have to wait and see if that is enough.
I am still reading up on how to flash the device, it's a completely different process from my old E4GT. But I am definitely excited to be onto something new and can't wait until I am able to figure out the whole process.
Thank you both for responding to my questions!
Welcome to the T-Mobile, HTC One fam. Best decision ever I'm telling you!
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Welcome to the T-Mobile, HTC One fam. Best decision ever I'm telling you!
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Thanks, so far I am definitely loving everything. The phone is super sweet and T-Mobile's Wifi calling helps when cell reception isn't up to snuff. The only downside is the lack of T-Mobile ROMs.
Overall, I couldn't be happier.
g4me0v3r said:
Thanks, so far I am definitely loving everything. The phone is super sweet and T-Mobile's Wifi calling helps when cell reception isn't up to snuff. The only downside is the lack of T-Mobile ROMs.
Overall, I couldn't be happier.
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You can flash any rom, even the international ones. You'll just lose wifi calling.
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You can flash any rom, even the international ones. You'll just lose wifi calling.
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I'm also considering moving to tmobile 99% chance I will. I currently have a sprint s4 so how would you flash the international roms? Just flash it then flash a kernel like on the S4 or just flash the rom. Thanks.
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I'm also considering moving to tmobile 99% chance I will. I currently have a sprint s4 so how would you flash the international roms? Just flash it then flash a kernel like on the S4 or just flash the rom. Thanks.
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No kernel needed. I assume you're going to get the T-mobile One and not keep the S4 right? Then yeah, no kernel needed. Just root, install twrp/cwm and flash any rom you want from the international XDA section. Its what I've done (except I have the att model unlocked to tmobile) and it works great. You can even flash the Google play edition roms too.
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You can flash any rom, even the international ones. You'll just lose wifi calling.
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I am using the $30/month 100 min/5G-4G Data. Since for prepaid, t-mobile wifi calling still eats minutes......I've swapped to using Groove IP + Google Voice for all my needs. Ported my old Sprint # To Google Voice for $20.00 and have been happy ever since.
Just have to make sure to setup Google Voice app to get all SMS's and call or chat with T-mobile CS to turn off T-Mobile voicemail, as prepaid cannot forward to google voice properly as post paid.
All in all, I'm very happy with T-mobile, and will never, ever miss sprint. Ever.
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No kernel needed. I assume you're going to get the T-mobile One and not keep the S4 right? Then yeah, no kernel needed. Just root, install twrp/cwm and flash any rom you want from the international XDA section. Its what I've done (except I have the att model unlocked to tmobile) and it works great. You can even flash the Google play edition roms too.
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Thanks for the reply I'm still debating on getting a tmo s4 or a tmo htc one but my current s4 laggs alot so the htc one seems like the better phone. Also how's the battery life?
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nicotheandroidguy said:
I'm also considering moving to tmobile 99% chance I will. I currently have a sprint s4 so how would you flash the international roms? Just flash it then flash a kernel like on the S4 or just flash the rom. Thanks.
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Coming from the Sprint GS 2 E4GT, flashing seemed so easy, with all the videos from QBKing77, the thorough guides on how to flash the phone, even the super easy one-clicks, flashing was a cake walk. After reading guides on how to flash the HTC One, I thought that I was going to end up bricking my phone.
Luckily I was able to find some videos from Flow Wolf and QBKing77 which basically walks you through the steps on Unlocking the Bootloader, obtaining root, and flashing the recovery. From there, flashing the ROM works just like it does on Samsung devices, with the exception of having to flash the kernel separately.
Last night I flashed TrickDroid 5.6.0 due to many people saying that you are still able to maintain WiFi Calling. So far, I'm loving it!
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Thanks for the reply I'm still debating on getting a tmo s4 or a tmo htc one but my current s4 laggs alot so the htc one seems like the better phone. Also how's the battery life?
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I've never had the S4 so I cant compare it to that. Its not great, but It will get you through the day fine.
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T-mobile note users ....
I'm posting this thread as a request for information today.....let me explain.
Within the past few weeks, many members have reported sim card errors on their tmo devices after root and flash of custom roms.
I personally know about 5 devices within the week that have suffered this failure.....3 of which, have been recovered by downgrading to Gingerbread .....
I'm sure there are many more sim issues we haven't heard about, as they likely haven't posted.
My intent here, is to have as many tmo users as possible, post your flash success or failure, in an attempt to prevent more sim failure issues.
Although I'm an ATT note user, I'm willing to help monitor and collect data here, so future users won't suffer the same fate.
2 of these failed devices were sent for repair, even though they were only days old, and worked perfectly prior to root and flash.
So please, if you are using the T-mobile network........please post your history and results.
Together we will likely find the cause .
And perhaps generate enough attention to the issues, that a fix can be found...
I am not attempting to cause panic, but I feel we need to fix the problem now, before we have dozens of affected units, rather than just a few.
Many thanks in advance ....g
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I would mention that many t-mobile subscribers cannot get good data and voice while using the at&t version of the note. With the choice of an at&t and a t-mobile model, you should get the t-mobile model -- you will be happier in the long run.
Happy T-mobile user
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I would mention that many t-mobile subscribers cannot get good data and voice while using the at&t version of the note. With the choice of an at&t and a t-mobile model, you should get the t-mobile model -- you will be happier in the long run.
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I bought an AT&T note off craigslist about a month ago. It was unlocked, before I handed over the cash I put my T-mobile sim in and called a friend he said it sounded great so I bought it. I did a couple of speed tests with it and usually get between 3 and 6 mbps down and a lot slower up. I've had no problems, everything works great including GPS. It's running ICS 4.04 stock AT&T ROM and the baseband is unknown. I don't know who unlocked and set it up but they did a great job as far as I'm concerned. YMMV
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It's all good ranger ....
Any and all info on the T-Mobile network while using the ATT note is welcome ....even the success stories.
I did request both in the OP, as I feel that we need both sides of the user responses to nail this thing down.
I do appreciate your response, and ask you for any assistance you can provide here.
This problem is so odd .....as it's not a brick ....but yet it is ....g
I sold my note to a TMo user...called them today(two days after) and they said it was working amazing....it was rooted and unlocked by an amazingly awesome person though(haha jkjk). The guy never rooted before and said the speed tests were rocking his gfs GS3 in TMo and the clarity of the call was great as well....ait could be a root issue or ROM issue though...
As far as unlocking if the pgones unlocked any way except for calling ATT customer care there is always that risk...plus a three minute phone call and giving someone your imei shouldnt be too much hassle .. So theres that dudes exoeruence from someone that knows what they are doing(kind of)...
The rom I left him on was AOCP CP3 by the collective jsyk
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I unlocked my phone from ebay, running the latest blackstar Rom, and im getting speeds that my old T989 get. No sim card issues.
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Kflan....
noting the unlock method here.....
I believe you are right.....We have many service unlock options, but only one that is safe....and thats the carrier method...
could this be as simple as users not unlocking the sim prior to root and flash ??? or an improper unlock ???
I'm hoping we can get some users in here to clarify that possibility for us.
Many thanks for bringing that up....g
Thank you Rob....
I appreciate the reply, and I'm glad your device is working as it should...
Several others are not so lucky....g
gregsarg said:
Thank you Rob....
I appreciate the reply, and I'm glad your device is working as it should...
Several others are not so lucky....g
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Was it a specific Rom or recovery that caused their problem?
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Rob4828 said:
Was it a specific Rom or recovery that caused their problem?
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Users on the T-Mobile network, are losing the ability too see or access the sim card, after rooting and flashing the device with a custom rom.
Generally they are flashing ICS, but we also have some users reporting sim loss while using GB roms as well.
We know a few things that are leading to a possible cause.
The first is the carrier offset (my term for t-mobile users with an ATT device )
The second is the need for carrier unlock for the device to be used at all with t-mobile.
The third is the inability to restore "any " sim activity after the failure....(although a few users have been successful after a complete unroot and downgrade to GB .
Although I haven't yet found a pattern in this ....I have reason to believe we are seeing a carrier related lockout of some kind, as the sim functions fine in other devices, and the device functions normally minus it's ability to detect the sim or any network.
Perhaps a good next step, would be to re-lock the device to the carrier again, after a complete stock restore of the device.
I wish that we had an affected device to try this with, but unfortunately, the affected users are returning the device for repair or replacement.
Not all users will, as they need a working device immediately, and are trying desperately to restore functionality.
That being said, I'm hoping this thread will draw an affected user here, so we can explore more aggressive, and hopefully effective solutions.
I can't ask anyone to risk a device beyond their willingness to try, and with some proactive thoughts from our fantastic user base, we will crack this problem open, and create a fix.
We all know the risks involved in flashing firmware images, but since we are now crossing not only the root/flash barrier, we are adding the carrier change into the mix. And that brings it's own unique set of challenges to the table.
I sincerely appreciate any and all help, in my search to help our note users succeed in fixing the ghost in this machine ....g
I know this is a noob question but I've been reading all these t-mo service/I717 threads cuz I'm thinking of doing this. Does rooting the phone unlock it? I'm on the liquid jb rom.
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I would like to echo what rangercaptain said earlier in the thread, regarding the fact that the SGH-I717 was never designed to run on the T-Mobile network.
And although we have virtually identical hardware and operational features, clearly something is different enough to cause this issue.
And I "do not " believe it is user error.
In the meantime, I would advise any user thinking about converting the ATT note to use on the T-Mobile network, to think very hard before attempting to do so......at least, until a verified and working solution can be found.
Ultimately, we need a bone stock ATT note, and a t-mobile user brave enough to try the process repeatedly, until the cause is identified, by eliminating one process at a time ...g
nystreak said:
I know this is a noob question but I've been reading all these t-mo service/I717 threads cuz I'm thinking of doing this. Does rooting the phone unlock it? I'm on the liquid jb rom.
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Rooting a device simply gives it's user the administrator rights needed to access the protected system and data sections of the device, that are normally reserved to the factory, carrier, and programming engineers of the software.
It does nothing to unlock you from your carrier.
That is done by contacting the carrier, and requesting that service.
It is also possible to be unlocked by a third party, but clearly their are risks involved in doing so while using the ATT note on the t-mobile network.
We are working very hard to correct the current "no sim card present" issue ...g
gregsarg said:
T-mobile note users ....
I'm posting this thread as a request for information today.....let me explain.
Within the past few weeks, many members have reported sim card errors on their tmo devices after root and flash of custom roms.
I personally know about 5 devices within the week that have suffered this failure.....3 of which, have been recovered by downgrading to Gingerbread .....
I'm sure there are many more sim issues we haven't heard about, as they likely haven't posted.
My intent here, is to have as many tmo users as possible, post your flash success or failure, in an attempt to prevent more sim failure issues.
Although I'm an ATT note user, I'm willing to help monitor and collect data here, so future users won't suffer the same fate.
2 of these failed devices were sent for repair, even though they were only days old, and worked perfectly prior to root and flash.
So please, if you are using the T-mobile network........please post your history and results.
Together we will likely find the cause .
And perhaps generate enough attention to the issues, that a fix can be found...
I am not attempting to cause panic, but I feel we need to fix the problem now, before we have dozens of affected units, rather than just a few.
Many thanks in advance ....g
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I have been running the AT&T i717 note on the T-Mo network since Tomin figured out how to get the 4g working, many months ago. I have not had problems with voice quality or sim card issues. I have run the Saurom GB roms, Goldie's Only1, many ICS roms, and now am on the stock T-Mo rom with the Blaze ICS modem.Tried all the modems, and Blaze works best for me. YMMV. I got a new sim from T-Mo to enable wifi calling. My data averages 3-5 megs, upload 1-1.8 megs, but at work I regularly hit 14 meg download. But like everyone, the speed is erratic, but functional for everything I do, including streaming netflix. My speeds were faster and more consistant with the GB roms, but the ICS speeds are plenty fast. I unlocked my phone with cellunlocker.com I think was the service. Nothing but a success story with my AT&T note on T-Mobile. And I get to keep my unlimited, unthrottled $5.99/month grandfathered data plan with 4g (if I used a "known" to T-Mo 4g phone I would have to upgrade. The AT&T note is "unknown" to T-Mo, If I got the T-Mo note it would trigger new data charges). For me, this is the point of the whole excersize. I have been lucky, and the Phoenix area has good coverage for me as far as T-Mo. This has been my experience.
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I have been running the AT&T i717 note on the T-Mo network since Tomin figured out how to get the 4g working, many months ago. I have not had problems with voice quality or sim card issues. I have run the Saurom GB roms, Goldie's Only1, many ICS roms, and now am on the stock T-Mo rom with the Blaze ICS modem.Tried all the modems, and Blaze works best for me. YMMV. I got a new sim from T-Mo to enable wifi calling. My data averages 3-5 megs, upload 1-1.8 megs, but at work I regularly hit 14 meg download. But like everyone, the speed is erratic, but functional for everything I do, including streaming netflix. My speeds were faster and more consistant with the GB roms, but the ICS speeds are plenty fast. I unlocked my phone with cellunlocker.com I think was the service. Nothing but a success story with my AT&T note on T-Mobile. And I get to keep my unlimited, unthrottled $5.99/month grandfathered data plan with 4g (if I used a "known" to T-Mo 4g phone I would have to upgrade. The AT&T note is "unknown" to T-Mo, If I got the T-Mo note it would trigger new data charges). For me, this is the point of the whole excersize. I have been lucky, and the Phoenix area has good coverage for me as far as T-Mo. This has been my experience.
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Many thanks for this great post !!
this is exactly what I'm looking for !!
A detailed review of the device activity....It seems you are indeed the lucky one today. And I appreciate your willingness to post up...
Should you see any odd behavior on the device, in particular any sim error messages etc. please post here if you dont mind.......g
Never had problems flashing ROMS, have a i717 with Simple Mobile (Tmo signal). Flashed everything, from GB to JB. Running right now FJ's JB AOSPxXx v2.1 and running like a charm!
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Never had problems flashing ROMS, have a i717 with Simple Mobile (Tmo signal). Flashed everything, from GB to JB. Running right now FJ's JB AOSPxXx v2.1 and running like a charm!
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Good news as well....
So far we are 2 for 2 ......too the positive......in this thread.
Lets hope that trend continues...
Many thanks Master....g
Mine was rooted then I unlocked it so maybe try rooting first unlocking second?
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When you are all talking about APN sims, are you talking about manipulating a phone that works for 1 carrier to also work with another carrier? If so, does it become a phone which works with both carriers?
I work in an area along the shore of Lake Michigan; for some reason Verizon has never had good coverage when close to the shore (I have experienced this problem for years, and from widely distant areas). However, some of my coworkers get good Internet using ATT, or Sprint; if there is a way for me to take advantage of this, then I want to!
Thank you.
Smegmus Magnus said:
When you are all talking about APN sims, are you talking about manipulating a phone that works for 1 carrier to also work with another carrier? If so, does it become a phone which works with both carriers?
Thank you.
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Yes, the Note2 can be used with ATT, Tmo, etc.
Smegmus Magnus said:
When you are all talking about APN sims, are you talking about manipulating a phone that works for 1 carrier to also work with another carrier? If so, does it become a phone which works with both carriers?
I work in an area along the shore of Lake Michigan; for some reason Verizon has never had good coverage when close to the shore (I have experienced this problem for years, and from widely distant areas). However, some of my coworkers get good Internet using ATT, or Sprint; if there is a way for me to take advantage of this, then I want to!
Thank you.
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There was a thread in here somewhere about someone who flashed an AT&T rom and had it working perfectly. Can't remember where it was, but that would be your best bet.
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Thanks for the replies.
So; does flashing an ATT rom mean my phone will no longer work on Verizon?
Also; if I were to flash a rom allowing ATT compatability, does that mean I would have to return my phone to stock, and flash an ATT-specific custom rom? As it is, I'm on Beans 17, and love it.
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Thanks for the replies.
So; does flashing an ATT rom mean my phone will no longer work on Verizon?
Also; if I were to flash a rom allowing ATT compatability, does that mean I would have to return my phone to stock, and flash an ATT-specific custom rom? As it is, I'm on Beans 17, and love it.
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No returning to stock for anything unless your trying to recover a soft brick. Everyone in this damn forum is so hung up on returning to stock for this or that. Once your rooted and have a custom recovery installed thats it your done. Forever........... If u want to flash a different rom wipe in recovery and flash away...... Thats all there is to android. Well from a user standpoint anyways.
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If you're on a Verizon phone you should stick with a Verizon based rom or intentional based rom made for Verizon. To CORRECTLY use another carrier's rom on your phone, you need to change APNs, csc files, lib files, framework files/code and probably some other files depending on the rom. Your best bet is to use a rom like Scott's ACE Cleanrom. When you flash it aroma allows you to choose other carriers. You can flash it once, choose at&t, set it up and make a nandroid. Then wipe everything and do the same for Verizon. Then all you would have to do is flash between the two nandroids.
@Mao04 & RomsWell,
Thank you both for your responses, you've both eased my mind and saved me a lot of trouble...
... I've decided '**** it!'. I really don't like talking on the phone anyway (or texting), and I can handle 8 hour workshifts without indulging in my addiction for news.
Besides, I'm loving Beans 17.
Thanks again.
I recently purchased a new Samsung Galaxy 4S for use on the Verizon network. I immediately installed Odin / CWP and flashed a couple of different ROMs to see which I might prefer. The issue I'm needing help with is that even when I select the network mode as LTE/CDMA I only seem to be getting the 3G wording in my cell's display. The phone has a 4G SIM card but to my knowledge none of this should be having an ill effect on the phones ability to connect to 4G. Any advice or suggestions?
Get a new SIM from Verizon. Myself and a handful of others have experienced this issue of the phone preferring EVDO over LTE.
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najaboy said:
Get a new SIM from Verizon. Myself and a handful of others have experienced this issue of the phone preferring EVDO over LTE.
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Thank you for the response. I have an additional question then.. if I go into a Verizon store with my phone, now obviously rooted and customized, will I be denied this service? This is my first time not keeping the phone entirely stock so I'm unfamiliar with the legalities associated with such a thing.
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Thank you for the response. I have an additional question then.. if I go into a Verizon store with my phone, now obviously rooted and customized, will I be denied this service? This is my first time not keeping the phone entirely stock so I'm unfamiliar with the legalities associated with such a thing.
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Most don't care and pretend to not notice. Or they'll laugh and geek out with you. I wouldn't go in with anything AOSP based though. Choose something that looks close to stock. It's not likely they'll check your recovery. If you're that paranoid about it though, then just flash to stock but keep custom recovery. When you're finished in the store then restore a backup of your current preference.
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Amorfus said:
Thank you for the response. I have an additional question then.. if I go into a Verizon store with my phone, now obviously rooted and customized, will I be denied this service? This is my first time not keeping the phone entirely stock so I'm unfamiliar with the legalities associated with such a thing.
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Nah, all your asking for is a sim update. I work in mobile phones myself, and I love having convos with customers about their rooted phones and mods all the time.
I am having the same issues. I went in today on liquidsmooth and got a new sim no problem.. Only thing is, my phone still has the connectivity issues
I got a new SIM card from a Vzw store and now everything works great.
That's right.... I want LTE bad. The entire reason I switched to T-Mobile was for LTE. Now the issue is after the sim is activated, LTE disappears.
$50 Amazon gift card if you develop a fix for this. $25 if you give a solution that works!
Let's figure this out! I can't afford an S4 or htc one now....
I don't mean to sound negative or pessimistic but, the LGOG using T-Mobile's HSPA+ service is pretty damned fast as it is... and yes I'd like it to work on my LGOG since it did work not once but twice with two different T-Mobile SIM cards for periods of time but, if you're in an area serviced by T-Mobile's current LTE rollout then you're also getting HSPA+ service too so...
"How fast is fast?" is the question I end up eventually asking people: how fast do you really need the connection to be for a smartphone? What are you folks doing with your smartphones that requires more than ~15-20Mbps?
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Can anyone that is rooted/unlocked (bootloader) and has a recovery installed boot your device into fastboot mode and see if it shows a baseband listed at all? Mine - which is running the stock JB 4.1.2 presently and using the stock JB AT&T radio shows N/A which makes me think there's something going on in there or I busted something during my multiple flashing phase over the past week or so, I don't know. Here's what mine says presently:
FASTBOOT MODE
PRODUCT NAME - mako
VARIANT - mako 16GB
HW VERSION - rev_10 (16)
BOOTLOADER VERSION - MAKOZ10o
BASEBAND VERSION - N/A
CARRIER INFO - None
SERIAL NUMBER - YADDAYADDAYADDA
SIGNING - production
SECURE BOOT - enabled
LOCK STATE - unlocked
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Now I'm wondering about two aspects there: the MAKOZ10o reference which could be related to the older ICS bootloader since that was a V10o thing, maybe it was updated and now IDs itself as Z10o, I don't know for sure, and of course the fact that it doesn't show a baseband version at all. I don't particularly believe that's what's causing the LTE to crap out and die but, I can't say for certain.
But I'm interested in seeing if anyone else's device running the stock JB 4.1.2 (mine has been flashed with LGNPST directly, not as an OTA - the device could have been 4.0.4 > 4.1.2 by OTA from the previous owner, I have no idea), and of course I can't say for certain when the LTE just stopped working but it was within the first day of me owning the device and before I ever flashed anything or rooted it so I will say that rooting it didn't cause the LTE to stop working and that was the first step in the flashing I've done since I got it.
Still, it's odd that it works then just stops working and never comes back...
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I don't mean to sound negative or pessimistic but, the LGOG using T-Mobile's HSPA+ service is pretty damned fast as it is... and yes I'd like it to work on my LGOG since it did work not once but twice with two different T-Mobile SIM cards for periods of time but, if you're in an area serviced by T-Mobile's current LTE rollout then you're also getting HSPA+ service too so...
"How fast is fast?" is the question I end up eventually asking people: how fast do you really need the connection to be for a smartphone? What are you folks doing with your smartphones that requires more than ~15-20Mbps?
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Can anyone that is rooted/unlocked (bootloader) and has a recovery installed boot your device into fastboot mode and see if it shows a baseband listed at all? Mine - which is running the stock JB 4.1.2 presently and using the stock JB AT&T radio shows N/A which makes me think there's something going on in there or I busted something during my multiple flashing phase over the past week or so, I don't know. Here's what mine says presently:
Now I'm wondering about two aspects there: the MAKOZ10o reference which could be related to the older ICS bootloader since that was a V10o thing, maybe it was updated and now IDs itself as Z10o, I don't know for sure, and of course the fact that it doesn't show a baseband version at all. I don't particularly believe that's what's causing the LTE to crap out and die but, I can't say for certain.
But I'm interested in seeing if anyone else's device running the stock JB 4.1.2 (mine has been flashed with LGNPST directly, not as an OTA - the device could have been 4.0.4 > 4.1.2 by OTA from the previous owner, I have no idea), and of course I can't say for certain when the LTE just stopped working but it was within the first day of me owning the device and before I ever flashed anything or rooted it so I will say that rooting it didn't cause the LTE to stop working and that was the first step in the flashing I've done since I got it.
Still, it's odd that it works then just stops working and never comes back...
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For the most part, it's fast.... But it's line having a Porsche with a speed limiter.... Who wants that?
Mine didn't have lte bone stock. I just rooted mine and booted into bootloader and I do have a line of letters and numbers with the baseband.
Bounty is going to be void unless someone has a solution quick! I put it up on craigslist and supposedly someone is going to buy it. Guess I'll have to fork over extra $ for a One or S4
I'm on T-Mobile LTE has never worked for me (been on it about a week). I get week 4g in town and most the time it wont even load ANYTHING! 2G is garbage...... My fastboot shows baseband version as n/a also. Unlocking the bootloader via freegee simply flashes the nexus aboot image which likely hasn't been modified. Does Tmobile LTE work on the nexus/nexus conversion? I know free also flashes a modified boot image but it simply removes the wallpaper.bin file from the phones bin directory to allow removal of any apps (its checks for videos,apk etc etc). I haven't tried flash the T-Mobile modem in the modem thread (.38 or something?) but I am assuming it also wont allow for LTE? Do these phones share modems with nexus or are they just cross compatible? Does the phone run LTE stock? I'm not familiar with at&t and do not know if they have a LTE band. Is it possible the hardware has just been removed on this model for LTE and those that get it do so without the antenna? I know there is another phone where that is the case but I cant remember which one of the top of my head.
Guys really need to quit buying e970s and thinking lte on tmo will work.
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DeathmonkeyGTX said:
Guys really need to quit buying e970s and thinking lte on tmo will work.
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As I just noted in another post, the LGOG is fully capable of LTE service on the T-Mobile frequencies - it's a damned Nexus 4 in a different package, with the same hardware radio and I/we can even run the T-Mobile radio firmware as well. That's not the issue.
The issue is that for many of us it DOES work at first but then the LTE stops working and I/we would most certainly like to figure out why it's happening.
Probably tmo trying to force you to buy a phone from them.
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Doubtful considering that's one reason they refarmed their network in the first place, so potential customers could bring their unlocked ATT devices to the T-Mobile network and have great service, LTE included. The "uncarrier" has great pride in that fact and have gone through great lengths to advertise it. The issue the OP is having appears to be LGOG specific as I hadn't heard of or seen any other devices with said issue, thus the bounty.
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The reason you guys are losing LTE is T-Mobile is slowly switching to a diff band. And it is one this phone doesn't handle. As they convert towers to the new frequency phones that do not handle all the US LTE bands get left behind.
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autosurgeon said:
The reason you guys are losing LTE is T-Mobile is slowly switching to a diff band. And it is one this phone doesn't handle. As they convert towers to the new frequency phones that do not handle all the US LTE bands get left behind.
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See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47076068&postcount=67
Since this double-posting and chasing people around threads gets tiring.
autosurgeon said:
The reason you guys are losing LTE is T-Mobile is slowly switching to a diff band. And it is one this phone doesn't handle. As they convert towers to the new frequency phones that do not handle all the US LTE bands get left behind.
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I hadn't seen any information to back this up, feel free to direct me to the info if you'd like. I find it hard to believe as T-Mobile just refarmed the network to support the same LTE bands as att and are still actively advertising the fact you can bring your unlocked device to their network without issue and with full support. In addition individuals are reporting LTE service that works fine initially then ceases generally after reboot or within a few days. The odds of these bands being changed just as users switch in multiple locations to multiple users are slim to none.
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I was told this by technical support when helping a friend that has an e970. Whether it is accurate info I guess is now in question. Sorry if it is not.
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No worries in the long run, we just like to make sure people do get accurate info. T-Mobile uses band 4 for LTE purposes, and that'll fall within the 850 and 1900 MHz bands they're refarming aka repurposing from primarily 2G/EDGE network usage towards more HSPA+ access which would also get more LTE support there as well.
And yeah, it's irritating as hell knowing it did work and now it doesn't, very frustrating. It's the only thing I haven't been able to get addressed with this LGOG so far and it flat out pisses me off.
Bounty is OFF! I sold the LGOG and picked up an ATT S4 for $185 off CL! Only slight damage to volume button but other than that clean, not stolen and LTE works! Until I bricked it by flashing the wrong rom but it's in the mail shipping back to me repaired !!
I had it running on Simple and I would mainly get terrible edge a I guess HSPA since it would say 4G sometimes. Didn't get LTE until I went over to AT&T.
Hey all,
So I've done some searching here, but I cannot find a concise, definitive answer to my questions. I'm buying a first phone for my daughter for Christmas, mainly for use as an MP3 and video player, but also for emergencies. She's still young, so when I say emergency we were leaning towards ONLY FOR A 911 TYPE EMERGENCY, as I believe those are placed even if the phone isn't activated. Anyway, her mom and I are on a GSM carrier so if we did activate it, we'd likely do it there, or a very cheap CDMA provider like Page Plus. So if I buy a phone off eBay or Craigslist today, regardless of whatever HBOOT/BOOTLOADER or ROM it has on it, can I still root it, use HTC Dev to unlock the bootloader, the toolkit to S-OFF, and then flash a 4.X ROM and use GSM if I desire?
Thanks for any help! If this will work then I'll go this route and she'll be very excited!!
vettejock99 said:
Hey all,
So I've done some searching here, but I cannot find a concise, definitive answer to my questions. I'm buying a first phone for my daughter for Christmas, mainly for use as an MP3 and video player, but also for emergencies. She's still young, so when I say emergency we were leaning towards ONLY FOR A 911 TYPE EMERGENCY, as I believe those are placed even if the phone isn't activated. Anyway, her mom and I are on a GSM carrier so if we did activate it, we'd likely do it there, or a very cheap CDMA provider like Page Plus. So if I buy a phone off eBay or Craigslist today, regardless of whatever HBOOT/BOOTLOADER or ROM it has on it, can I still root it, use HTC Dev to unlock the bootloader, the toolkit to S-OFF, and then flash a 4.X ROM and use GSM if I desire?
Thanks for any help! If this will work then I'll go this route and she'll be very excited!!
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The answer is yes, you can do that... the phone will work for E911 calls without being activated. You can also unlock, S-OFF, root, ROM and everything else like you said, although the Rezound is a little more complicated than to S-OFF than just using a toolkit it is doable with some homework and a little Linux knowledge, but to be honest, GSM works fine (Edge data only, 3G/4G higher possible with significant tweaking on some GSM carriers) on the stock 4.5.605.14 ROM.
If you know you will likely be activating this on a GSM carrier, why not get a phone designed for that right off the bat? Several unlocked GSM phones can be purchased for around the same price as the Rez, like the Galaxy Nexus, Sony Xperia S, HTC Sensation, Samsung GS2 GT-I9100 or similar phones. Don't get me wrong, I love the Rezound, but for ease of use on a GSM carrier with full 3G data you migh be better off looking at a phone suited to that purpose.
Yes, it's doable, just know what you are in for...
Thanks you.SO much! I've done wire tricks on some phones before and I think I'm learning that is the challenge here, but I should be good. I appreciate the other thoughts as well. To your question, well, we have poor GSM coverage in a number of spots around here, even we my wife and I using it, and CDMA seems like a good emergency precaution.
Thanks again so much!!
vettejock99 said:
Thanks you.SO much! I've done wire tricks on some phones before and I think I'm learning that is the challenge here, but I should be good. I appreciate the other thoughts as well. To your question, well, we have poor GSM coverage in a number of spots around here, even we my wife and I using it, and CDMA seems like a good emergency precaution.
Thanks again so much!!
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Cool... Note that activating the Rezound on PagePlus requires significant "tweaking" and a donor PagePlus phone to clone the ESN/MEID, PagePlus will not activate the Rezound as it is, neither will any other CDMA carrier but Verizon, and even then they won't do it on a prepaid plan. People have mentioned before that Cricket will do it, but the results have been mixed.
As long as you are aware of the issues and what you might need to do, go for it. Although for use as a video player, I would recommend an extended battery, the screen time on a standard battery is >2 hours. :/
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Cool... Note that activating the Rezound on PagePlus requires significant "tweaking" and a donor PagePlus phone to clone the ESN/MEID, PagePlus will not activate the Rezound as it is, neither will any other CDMA carrier but Verizon, and even then they won't do it on a prepaid plan. People have mentioned before that Cricket will do it, but the results have been mixed.
As long as you are aware of the issues and what you might need to do, go for it. Although for use as a video player, I would recommend an extended battery, the screen time on a standard battery is >2 hours. :/
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Excellent points. Yeah, I had a S3 on PP for a while and it was a pain - actually CDMA overall is a pain to me so I probably won't do it. Per your advice - looking for an extended battery right now!