if i install roms via CWM it add binary counting? - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

guys,
if i install roms via CWM it add binary counting?
same question about Odin...
plz suggest...
Somehow i have now 1 counted already

Using CWM won't increase your binary counter, but using Odin will :
Counter is increased each time you flash something (ROM, kernel, ...) using download mode (and Odin). As CWM is in recovery mode, it won't increase binary counter.
If you want to reset your counter, you can use TriangleAway ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114 ), but it's a highly unrecommended operation if you don't plan to return your phone for warranty.

Maxypy said:
Using CWM won't increase your binary counter, but using Odin will :
Counter is increased each time you flash something (ROM, kernel, ...) using download mode (and Odin). As CWM is in recovery mode, it won't increase binary counter.
If you want to reset your counter, you can use TriangleAway ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114 ), but it's a highly unrecommended operation if you don't plan to return your phone for warranty.
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i've installed JB leak ending 4 (one before the last one) using ODIN so now i've counter... well hopefully i wont need give it to warranty... if i will ever need to..i hope there will be more friendly counter reset mathod by then
tnx!!

I want update my JB into this version:
GT-I9300_I9300XXDLI5-OTA-I9300XXBLG8_BTU_297701247.ZIP
I can use odin to install this ZIP OTA?
Thanks!

rommark said:
i've installed JB leak ending 4 (one before the last one) using ODIN so now i've counter... well hopefully i wont need give it to warranty... if i will ever need to..i hope there will be more friendly counter reset mathod by then
tnx!!
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Triangle away is very friendly. Just read a little. And if you are rooted or have recovery installed, your binary counter is more than 0
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rommark said:
guys,
if i install roms via CWM it add binary counting?
same question about Odin...
plz suggest...
Somehow i have now 1 counted already
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Binary counter only increases if you change the recovery image or kernel image using odin.
Use odin to add cwm... Then use triangle away to reset your counter and then always flash via cwm... Your counter will stay at 0
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zoot1 said:
Binary counter only increases if you change the recovery image or kernel image using odin.
Use odin to add cwm... Then use triangle away to reset your counter and then always flash via cwm... Your counter will stay at 0
Sent from someone in the Milky Way
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^^What he said ^^.
I don't really care about the binary count. Although it is a good practice to keep it at zero, in case your phone breaks and you have to return for warranty.
(Good discussion but it could have been posted in q&a section)
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[Q] Flash counter rising when installing from recovery?

Hello! Does the flash counter rise when you install a rom from recovery? Kinda dump question, but i need to know!
jonttuv said:
Hello! Does the flash counter rise when you install a rom from recovery? Kinda dump question, but i need to know!
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Yes the flash counter rises when you flash via recovery you can use a custom kernel and the tringle away app from chainfire will reset your flash counter after you have flashed a rom. Simply after you flashed a rom install a custom kernel and then use the tringle away apk to get rid of the flash counter..
You can also get rid of your flash counter by using odin to flash your stock rom back..
Meemo23 said:
Yes the flash counter rises when you flash via recovery you can use a custom kernel and the tringle away app from chainfire will reset your flash counter after you have flashed a rom. Simply after you flashed a rom install a custom kernel and then use the tringle away apk to get rid of the flash counter..
You can also get rid of your flash counter by using odin to flash your stock rom back..
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WOW! That was completely inaccurate! No! Flashing in recovery does NOT increase your binary counter! Flashing via MobileODIN does NOT increase your binary counter! Only flashing non-stock builds via PC ODIN will increase your counter. Furthermore, if you have tripped your counter, going back to stock will NOT reset it. The only way you can currently reset a counter is with Triangle Away.
So anyway, just don't flash custom ROMs from PC ODIN, and you won't trip your counter. Flashing from recovery is fine!
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Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
WOW! That was completely inaccurate! No! Flashing in recovery does NOT increase your binary counter! Flashing via MobileODIN does NOT increase your binary counter! Only flashing non-stock builds via PC ODIN will increase your counter. Furthermore, if you have tripped your counter, going back to stock will NOT reset it. The only way you can currently reset a counter is with Triangle Away.
So anyway, just don't flash custom ROMs from PC ODIN, and you won't trip your counter. Flashing from recovery is fine!
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Is that why everytime i flash a custom rom via recovery i have 1 next to my counter?
Meemo23 said:
Is that why everytime i flash a custom rom via recovery i have 1 next to my counter?
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If your counter is tripping everytime you use recovery to flash, either you're doing something wrong or your handset is frakked! Either way, the information you posted was grossly inaccurate. Good day!
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Woops. Just hit a deer.
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Meemo23 said:
Yes the flash counter rises when you flash via recovery you can use a custom kernel and the tringle away app from chainfire will reset your flash counter after you have flashed a rom. Simply after you flashed a rom install a custom kernel and then use the tringle away apk to get rid of the flash counter..
You can also get rid of your flash counter by using odin to flash your stock rom back..
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Completely inaccurate.
Flashing via Odin will raise your flash counter, mobile Odin doesn't and neither does cwm.
Flashing to stock via Odin will NOT revert your flash counter to 0, it will only remove the modified status from system info under settings.
Triangle away will revert the flash counter to 0.
Meemo23 said:
Is that why everytime i flash a custom rom via recovery i have 1 next to my counter?
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The 1 is there from when you flashed a custom kernel via Odin/cf root via Odin.
If cwm was tripping it every time it wouldn't be at 1, it would increase.
Edit: I just realised everything I said has already been said. Either way it still stands.
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nodstuff said:
Completely inaccurate.
Flashing via Odin will raise your flash counter, mobile Odin doesn't and neither does cwm.
Flashing to stock via Odin will NOT revert your flash counter to 0, it will only remove the modified status from system info under settings.
Triangle away will revert the flash counter to 0.
The 1 is there from when you flashed a custom kernel via Odin/cf root via Odin.
If cwm was tripping it every time it wouldn't be at 1, it would increase.
Edit: I just realised everything I said has already been said. Either way it still stands.
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Thank you.
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Meemo23 said:
Yes the flash counter rises when you flash via recovery you can use a custom kernel and the tringle away app from chainfire will reset your flash counter after you have flashed a rom. Simply after you flashed a rom install a custom kernel and then use the tringle away apk to get rid of the flash counter..
You can also get rid of your flash counter by using odin to flash your stock rom back..
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Wow you sounded so sure of yourself it almost made me believe you. I was thinking why do i bother using Triangle away when I could just flash stock rom lol
Anyways what the rest say is true. The only real time your counter will increase if when you first flash a recovery or rom via Odin on pc. After that if you stick to using CWM it will remain the same, wether that be on ZERO or anything else. Triangle away will reset that for you
So how dangerous is Triangle Away
Okay, thank for everyone of you, but how dangerous it is to use triangle away. I got it in my phone but haven't used it yet.

Q: about the triangle and flash counter

I've been curious on how the triangle and the flash counter works. So, please consider the following scenarios and answer accordingly:
Flash a...
1. a fully stock ROM via...
a. Odin
b. Mobile Odin.
c. CWM (going from a custom ROM).
2. a modified Samsung ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704185 which include very minimal stuff via...
a. CWM
b. Mobile Odin (is it even possible considering that it is a zip file?)
3. an AOSP ROM via any method.
And finally
4. If you had a triangle and then flashed a stock ROM does it disappear?
Thank you guys and I would be very grateful if you answer these questions.
There is no triangle on SGS3, only the flash counter (and a device status in phone settings)
Flashing with odin will increase your flash counter except if you're flashing a stock rom from Samsung
Flashing with mobile odin will not increase your flash counter
Flashing with CWM should not increase your flash counter
If you flash a stock rom, it will not reset your flash counter
You can reset your flash counter with triangle away (need root) from chainfire BUT you will have to reflash a stock rom in order to reset the device status
Mopral said:
There is no triangle on SGS3, only the flash counter (and a device status in phone settings)
Flashing with odin will increase your flash counter except if your flashing a stock rom from Samsung
Flashing with mobile odin will not increase your flash counter
Flashing with CWM should not increase your flash counter
If you flash a stock rom, it will not reset your flash counter
You can reset your flash counter with triangle away (need root) from chainfire BUT you will have to reflash a stock rom in order to reset the device status
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Thank you very much. I was under the illusion that it had a triangle like SGS2.
yes the s2 has the triangle
the s3 doesnt
but if u want to reset the costume binary counter u can use the triangle away app

[Q]Triangle Away

Hello guys,
I have a question about triangle away by chainfire.
I have a galaxy-i9300 international version.
i've been used in UltimaRom and i wanted to reset my flash counter and to get back to samsung offical rom.
i did it and everything worked as it should.
and now i'm on sumsung offical rom but i want to root my phone without increase my flash counter,
i want to try to root it and then use the triangle away to reset the counter,
so my question Is : if i root my phone and then use triangle away to reset the counter, should i have to flash again the rom ?(and as result the root will be deleted) or i can root my phone and use triangle away without flash again the rom via odin ?
You can flash stock with Odin and then flash cf auto root, run triangle away and your flash counter will be 0 and you will be rooted still. But make sure you have stock kernel and recovery
If need be you can always go to the super su app and unroot then run a factory reset to go completely 100% stock with 0 flash counts and official phone status
Hope this helps
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elspanish88 said:
You can flash stock with Odin and then flash cf auto root, run triangle away and your flash counter will be 0 and you will be rooted still. But make sure you have stock kernel and recovery
If need be you can always go to the super su app and unroot then run a factory reset to go completely 100% stock with 0 flash counts and official phone status
Hope this helps
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Thank you very much , but i have another question , now after i rooted my phone and reset the flash counter, it says that i have:
SYSTEM STATUS : Custom.
can i change it to offical without unroot my phone ?
Use triangle away to allow tracker to run mate that should fix it... If not when you do a factory reset it will change to normal/official
You will still have root after a factory reset as well
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elspanish88 said:
Use triangle away to allow tracker to run mate that should fix it... If not when you do a factory reset it will change to normal/official
You will still have root after a factory reset as well
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i'm seek of factory reset lol,
i tried to use triangle away to allow tracker to run mate but it doesn't work to me :/
if i flash a stock recovery of galaxy s3 it will fix it ? or i have to do a factory reset ?
guysabati said:
i'm seek of factory reset lol,
i tried to use triangle away to allow tracker to run mate but it doesn't work to me :/
if i flash a stock recovery of galaxy s3 it will fix it ? or i have to do a factory reset ?
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You need to have stock recovery and stock kernel for the counter to stay at 0
And for the factory reset its in recovery (stock or custom)
Here's how I did it:
1- flash stock ROM with Odin.
2- flash CF-Auto root with Odin.
3- run triangle away to reset flash counter.
4- turn phone off and enter recovery (volume+, home key and power button).
5- select factory reset
6- reboot
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elspanish88 said:
You need to have stock recovery and stock kernel for the counter to stay at 0
And for the factory reset its in recovery (stock or custom)
Here's how I did it:
1- flash stock ROM with Odin.
2- flash CF-Auto root with Odin.
3- run triangle away to reset flash counter.
4- turn phone off and enter recovery (volume+, home key and power button).
5- select factory reset
6- reboot
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Dude thank you very much !! it worked for me ! thanks again !
guysabati said:
Dude thank you very much !! it worked for me ! thanks again !
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Your welcome, glad its sorted!
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Triangle away stays at 1 GT- i9300

SO im looking to reset my flash counter to unroot but since i have a custom ROM n custom KERNEL i can't seem to get it back to zero...i looked around forums n XDA it says i need a stock kernel n recovery ...i managed to get hold of a recovery but not the kernel ? :S is there a way to download stock kernel or do i have to flash the complete stock firmware on my rooted device before i can use the triangle away to reset it to 0 ?
faraz90 said:
SO im looking to reset my flash counter to unroot but since i have a custom ROM n custom KERNEL i can't seem to get it back to zero...i looked around forums n XDA it says i need a stock kernel n recovery ...i managed to get hold of a recovery but not the kernel ? :S is there a way to download stock kernel or do i have to flash the complete stock firmware on my rooted device before i can use the triangle away to reset it to 0 ?
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Read the how to return to stock for warranty guide.
Flash stock rom or extract kernel from a stock rom .
jje
faraz90 said:
SO im looking to reset my flash counter to unroot but since i have a custom ROM n custom KERNEL i can't seem to get it back to zero...i looked around forums n XDA it says i need a stock kernel n recovery ...i managed to get hold of a recovery but not the kernel ? :S is there a way to download stock kernel or do i have to flash the complete stock firmware on my rooted device before i can use the triangle away to reset it to 0 ?
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Does your kernel has support for Triangle Away?
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bnbasarir said:
Does your kernel has support for Triangle Away?
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yes i can easily use triangle away on my phone without any issues only problem is everytime i check it says 1:S
faraz90 said:
yes i can easily use triangle away on my phone without any issues only problem is everytime i check it says 0 :S
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After using Triangle Away don't reboot your phone, go into Odin (download mode) and flash official firmware.
Let us know if you solve the issue.
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bnbasarir said:
After using Triangle Away don't reboot your phone, go into Odin (download mode) and flash official firmware.
Let us know if you solve the issue.
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im sorry that was a typo n since im new to this forum i have to wait before i edit my post :/ anyways...so yea Im using Liquidsmooth 2.7 ROM and its own kernel that comes with it...now reseting it cant be done..and my flash count stays at 1 even after triangle away..
faraz90 said:
im sorry that was a typo n since im new to this forum i have to wait before i edit my post :/ anyways...so yea Im using Liquidsmooth 2.7 ROM and its own kernel that comes with it...now reseting it cant be done..and my flash count stays at 1 even after triangle away..
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It will stay at 1 as long as you keep using modified kernel and recovery.
If you want to reset it completely; find a stock firmware, fire Odin, use triangle away, reboot to download mode, flash the stock firmware and wait for it to boot.
After boot completes reboot to download mode and check the status
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bnbasarir said:
It will stay at 1 as long as you keep using modified kernel and recovery.
If you want to reset it completely; find a stock firmware, fire Odin, use triangle away, reboot to download mode, flash the stock firmware and wait for it to boot.
After boot completes reboot to download mode and check the status
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hey thanks for quick reply..soo tell me if im right by these:
1.find a stock firmware from samupdates for your region and device
2.flash it via odin
3.use triangle away
4.reboot to download mode and flash stock firmware again via odin ?
questions : will triangle away work after using flashing stock firmware on my current device
also do i have wipe partions and factory reset n dalvik via cmw before flashing stock firmware?
sorrry for many doubts but i have been on my laptop for few hours now looking for answers..thanks !!
faraz90 said:
hey thanks for quick reply..soo tell me if im right by these:
1.find a stock firmware from samupdates for your region and device
2.flash it via odin
3.use triangle away
4.reboot to download mode and flash stock firmware again via odin ?
questions : will triangle away work after using flashing stock firmware on my current device
also do i have wipe partions and factory reset n dalvik via cmw before flashing stock firmware?
sorrry for many doubts but i have been on my laptop for few hours now looking for answers..thanks !!
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With stock firmware you will lose root so Triangle Away won't work. You have to do it BEFORE flashing the stock firmware.
So it looks like this;
1. Find a stock firmware
2. Use Triangle Away with currently installed firmware and reset the binary. If it fails change your kernel to another one which specifically supports Triangle Away and retry to reset the binary.
IMPORTANT: Do not reboot after using Triangle Away.
3. Reboot to download mode and flash stock firmware via Odin
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thats the problem... triangle away works only on stock kernels and recovery for i9300 and found recovery but i cant find the stock kernel for my device :/
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faraz90 said:
thats the problem... triangle away works only on stock kernels and recovery for i9300 and found recovery but i cant find the stock kernel for my device :/
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Nope, I think you're misinformed. Triangle Away works with Siyah, Perseus, Googy and many more kernels. Read their thread.
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i meant i cant reset my flash count on this kernel.. triangle away works yes but flash count stays at 1
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Are you checking it in download mode or in the app?
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bnbasarir said:
Are you checking it in download mode or in the app?
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download mode....and this is what i found in chainfires thread:
Note#2: on new devices like the SGS4/SGS3/SGNote2/SGNote8/SGNote10.1 etc, the "system modified" status can only be reset on some firmwares - they must be stock firmwares!
faraz90 said:
download mode....and this is what i found in chainfires thread:
Note#2: on new devices like the SGS4/SGS3/SGNote2/SGNote8/SGNote10.1 etc, the "system modified" status can only be reset on some firmwares - they must be stock firmwares!
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- My counter always stays at 1
Some devices/bootloaders set the counter to 1 at every boot if you are running a custom kernel or recovery. On these devices, Triangle Away may always display 1 - make sure to check the counter in actual download mode, and make sure you are running a stock Samsung kernel and recovery.
faraz90 said:
- My counter always stays at 1
Some devices/bootloaders set the counter to 1 at every boot if you are running a custom kernel or recovery. On these devices, Triangle Away may always display 1 - make sure to check the counter in actual download mode, and make sure you are running a stock Samsung kernel and recovery.
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This is what I've been suggesting from the beginning. You can get a false positive while running a custom fw since binary updates at every boot. You have to Triangle Away and flash a stock firmware than check the binary again.
System Modified flag and Binary Counter are same thing located in different places, bootloader and Android. If you get rid off the bootloader one (with triangle away), after getting stock system modified in android will probably change to official.
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bnbasarir said:
This is what I've been suggesting from the beginning. You can get a false positive while running a custom fw since binary updates at every boot. You have to Triangle Away and flash a stock firmware than check the binary again.
System Modified flag and Binary Counter are same thing located in different places, bootloader and Android. If you get rid off the bootloader one (with triangle away), after getting stock system modified in android will probably change to official.
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ooooohhhh...i already used triangle away on my custom rom now all i have to do is flash stock firmware via odin and check again ??
faraz90 said:
ooooohhhh...i already used triangle away on my custom rom now all i have to do is flash stock firmware via odin and check again ??
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Yes but attention; after using Triangle Away don't reboot the phone but instead go into download mode and flash official firmware.
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thaank youu man i got it now...!
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You also need to do a factory reset after flashing stock, so backup your sd card and data as stock recovery factory reset wipes data and sd card (internal)

how to flash without increasing flash counter

i know that flashing custom binaries using odin increase flash counter and triangle away can reset the counter but is there a way to flash without using download mode and increasing flash counter . does installing zip files from cwm/twrp/philz recovery increase flash counter?
mobile odin doesn't increase flash counter
The flash counter only increases when you boot with either a custom recovery or kernel installed.
Using mobile odin to flash will zero the flash counter, the same as using triangle away, but if you've installed a custom recovery or kernel during the flash then your counter will immediately be 1 again when you boot.
afaik custom kernel and or recovery will leave the status modified.and will increase the flash counter . I like to be rooted , and have 0 flash count. for mods I use xposed framework it installs mods as apks. root apps help to de bloat or freeze / hibernate system bloat. plenty of customization with xposed especially if on the 4.2.2 leak. I think it is a better alternative to flashing.custom roms.
Anyone who rooted on ics will have a flash count of 0. This is because with the ics bootloader, once reset it never goes up.
Trade off here is not using download mode as its not sds safe...
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