i know that flashing custom binaries using odin increase flash counter and triangle away can reset the counter but is there a way to flash without using download mode and increasing flash counter . does installing zip files from cwm/twrp/philz recovery increase flash counter?
mobile odin doesn't increase flash counter
The flash counter only increases when you boot with either a custom recovery or kernel installed.
Using mobile odin to flash will zero the flash counter, the same as using triangle away, but if you've installed a custom recovery or kernel during the flash then your counter will immediately be 1 again when you boot.
afaik custom kernel and or recovery will leave the status modified.and will increase the flash counter . I like to be rooted , and have 0 flash count. for mods I use xposed framework it installs mods as apks. root apps help to de bloat or freeze / hibernate system bloat. plenty of customization with xposed especially if on the 4.2.2 leak. I think it is a better alternative to flashing.custom roms.
Anyone who rooted on ics will have a flash count of 0. This is because with the ics bootloader, once reset it never goes up.
Trade off here is not using download mode as its not sds safe...
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Bascially got my galaxy S2 I9100 a few weeks ago , i am pretty familiar with android and know my way about , so the first thing i did was root stock ROM with Cf Root then the second thing i did was flash the Siyah Kernel via odin then dual booted a few roms such as RR or Paranoid Android. As the Siyah kernel enables dual boot i kept my stock 4.0.3 but replaced the launcher with the touchwhiz ux launcher found on the galaxy s3. Since i have flashed various roms and also removed them ect. I have been seeing on XDA that alot of people sent their galaxy s2 to warranty and it didnt get fixed as the "download counter" showed that custom software had been obtained and flashed within the device & that one way to fix it was by downloading well known developer chainfires "Triangle Away" apk in order to remove the triangle at boot as well as reseting the download counter to 0. i am just confused as this is what i done get.
-Say i send my device for warranty and i have restored stock ics GS2 rom kernel and so on will they be able to tell without me using chainfires
"triangle away app?"
-If somehow i encounter a "softbrick" or "hardbrick" could i just buy a usb jig enter download mode, plug it in, restore counter to 0 then flash stock ics & kernel for GS2 via odin & get it fixed free by warranty?
thank alot
xiFIL said:
Bascially got my galaxy S2 I9100 a few weeks ago , i am pretty familiar with android and know my way about , so the first thing i did was root stock ROM with Cf Root then the second thing i did was flash the Siyah Kernel via odin then dual booted a few roms such as RR or Paranoid Android. As the Siyah kernel enables dual boot i kept my stock 4.0.3 but replaced the launcher with the touchwhiz ux launcher found on the galaxy s3. Since i have flashed various roms and also removed them ect. I have been seeing on XDA that alot of people sent their galaxy s2 to warranty and it didnt get fixed as the "download counter" showed that custom software had been obtained and flashed within the device & that one way to fix it was by downloading well known developer chainfires "Triangle Away" apk in order to remove the triangle at boot as well as reseting the download counter to 0. i am just confused as this is what i done get.
-Say i send my device for warranty and i have restored stock ics GS2 rom kernel and so on will they be able to tell without me using chainfires
"triangle away app?"
-If somehow i encounter a "softbrick" or "hardbrick" could i just buy a usb jig enter download mode, plug it in, restore counter to 0 then flash stock ics & kernel for GS2 via odin & get it fixed free by warranty?
thank alot
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u could just root ur phone, install triangle away, run it, and all set.
uninstall any app that indicates that ur phone is rooted and there. also u could flash an unrooted kernel too.
when i had to live my phone at service i did this:
-used triangle away
-factory resets
-wipe dalvik and cache
-flashed via ODIN stock ICS rom
-give it to service!
pelpa87 said:
u could just root ur phone, install triangle away, run it, and all set.
uninstall any app that indicates that ur phone is rooted and there. also u could flash an unrooted kernel too.
when i had to live my phone at service i did this:
-used triangle away
-factory resets
-wipe dalvik and cache
-flashed via ODIN stock ICS rom
-give it to service!
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so when it is rooted or has a custom rom i use triangle away then-
& what do you mean factory resets? & then i flash custom stock ics? & how can i wipe dalvik cache when it is not rooted?!
xiFIL said:
so when it is rooted or has a custom rom i use triangle away then-
& what do you mean factory resets? & then i flash custom stock ics? & how can i wipe dalvik cache when it is not rooted?!
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He simple said:
When you are on a custom rom or rooted rom, use triangle away to reset the counter.
Then do a factory reset and wipe cache/dalvik cache by using custom recovery mode. (you are still rooted)
Then flash an official stock kernel via odin (it will not increase the counter)
The counter will say no and binary official and you have unrooted new firmware
with no way to know you messed around with it. Warranty reclaimed!!
aziz981 said:
He simple said:
When you are on a custom rom or rooted rom, use triangle away to reset the counter.
Then do a factory reset and wipe cache/dalvik cache by using custom recovery mode. (you are still rooted)
Then flash an official stock kernel via odin (it will not increase the counter)
The counter will say no and binary official and you have unrooted new firmware
with no way to know you messed around with it. Warranty reclaimed!!
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exactly! U stated that u r on a custom rom..so i supposed u have cwmr..then u can follow the steps i mentioned
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Hello! Does the flash counter rise when you install a rom from recovery? Kinda dump question, but i need to know!
jonttuv said:
Hello! Does the flash counter rise when you install a rom from recovery? Kinda dump question, but i need to know!
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Yes the flash counter rises when you flash via recovery you can use a custom kernel and the tringle away app from chainfire will reset your flash counter after you have flashed a rom. Simply after you flashed a rom install a custom kernel and then use the tringle away apk to get rid of the flash counter..
You can also get rid of your flash counter by using odin to flash your stock rom back..
Meemo23 said:
Yes the flash counter rises when you flash via recovery you can use a custom kernel and the tringle away app from chainfire will reset your flash counter after you have flashed a rom. Simply after you flashed a rom install a custom kernel and then use the tringle away apk to get rid of the flash counter..
You can also get rid of your flash counter by using odin to flash your stock rom back..
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WOW! That was completely inaccurate! No! Flashing in recovery does NOT increase your binary counter! Flashing via MobileODIN does NOT increase your binary counter! Only flashing non-stock builds via PC ODIN will increase your counter. Furthermore, if you have tripped your counter, going back to stock will NOT reset it. The only way you can currently reset a counter is with Triangle Away.
So anyway, just don't flash custom ROMs from PC ODIN, and you won't trip your counter. Flashing from recovery is fine!
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Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
WOW! That was completely inaccurate! No! Flashing in recovery does NOT increase your binary counter! Flashing via MobileODIN does NOT increase your binary counter! Only flashing non-stock builds via PC ODIN will increase your counter. Furthermore, if you have tripped your counter, going back to stock will NOT reset it. The only way you can currently reset a counter is with Triangle Away.
So anyway, just don't flash custom ROMs from PC ODIN, and you won't trip your counter. Flashing from recovery is fine!
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Is that why everytime i flash a custom rom via recovery i have 1 next to my counter?
Meemo23 said:
Is that why everytime i flash a custom rom via recovery i have 1 next to my counter?
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If your counter is tripping everytime you use recovery to flash, either you're doing something wrong or your handset is frakked! Either way, the information you posted was grossly inaccurate. Good day!
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Meemo23 said:
Yes the flash counter rises when you flash via recovery you can use a custom kernel and the tringle away app from chainfire will reset your flash counter after you have flashed a rom. Simply after you flashed a rom install a custom kernel and then use the tringle away apk to get rid of the flash counter..
You can also get rid of your flash counter by using odin to flash your stock rom back..
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Completely inaccurate.
Flashing via Odin will raise your flash counter, mobile Odin doesn't and neither does cwm.
Flashing to stock via Odin will NOT revert your flash counter to 0, it will only remove the modified status from system info under settings.
Triangle away will revert the flash counter to 0.
Meemo23 said:
Is that why everytime i flash a custom rom via recovery i have 1 next to my counter?
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The 1 is there from when you flashed a custom kernel via Odin/cf root via Odin.
If cwm was tripping it every time it wouldn't be at 1, it would increase.
Edit: I just realised everything I said has already been said. Either way it still stands.
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nodstuff said:
Completely inaccurate.
Flashing via Odin will raise your flash counter, mobile Odin doesn't and neither does cwm.
Flashing to stock via Odin will NOT revert your flash counter to 0, it will only remove the modified status from system info under settings.
Triangle away will revert the flash counter to 0.
The 1 is there from when you flashed a custom kernel via Odin/cf root via Odin.
If cwm was tripping it every time it wouldn't be at 1, it would increase.
Edit: I just realised everything I said has already been said. Either way it still stands.
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Thank you.
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Meemo23 said:
Yes the flash counter rises when you flash via recovery you can use a custom kernel and the tringle away app from chainfire will reset your flash counter after you have flashed a rom. Simply after you flashed a rom install a custom kernel and then use the tringle away apk to get rid of the flash counter..
You can also get rid of your flash counter by using odin to flash your stock rom back..
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Wow you sounded so sure of yourself it almost made me believe you. I was thinking why do i bother using Triangle away when I could just flash stock rom lol
Anyways what the rest say is true. The only real time your counter will increase if when you first flash a recovery or rom via Odin on pc. After that if you stick to using CWM it will remain the same, wether that be on ZERO or anything else. Triangle away will reset that for you
So how dangerous is Triangle Away
Okay, thank for everyone of you, but how dangerous it is to use triangle away. I got it in my phone but haven't used it yet.
I've been curious on how the triangle and the flash counter works. So, please consider the following scenarios and answer accordingly:
Flash a...
1. a fully stock ROM via...
a. Odin
b. Mobile Odin.
c. CWM (going from a custom ROM).
2. a modified Samsung ROM like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704185 which include very minimal stuff via...
a. CWM
b. Mobile Odin (is it even possible considering that it is a zip file?)
3. an AOSP ROM via any method.
And finally
4. If you had a triangle and then flashed a stock ROM does it disappear?
Thank you guys and I would be very grateful if you answer these questions.
There is no triangle on SGS3, only the flash counter (and a device status in phone settings)
Flashing with odin will increase your flash counter except if you're flashing a stock rom from Samsung
Flashing with mobile odin will not increase your flash counter
Flashing with CWM should not increase your flash counter
If you flash a stock rom, it will not reset your flash counter
You can reset your flash counter with triangle away (need root) from chainfire BUT you will have to reflash a stock rom in order to reset the device status
Mopral said:
There is no triangle on SGS3, only the flash counter (and a device status in phone settings)
Flashing with odin will increase your flash counter except if your flashing a stock rom from Samsung
Flashing with mobile odin will not increase your flash counter
Flashing with CWM should not increase your flash counter
If you flash a stock rom, it will not reset your flash counter
You can reset your flash counter with triangle away (need root) from chainfire BUT you will have to reflash a stock rom in order to reset the device status
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Thank you very much. I was under the illusion that it had a triangle like SGS2.
yes the s2 has the triangle
the s3 doesnt
but if u want to reset the costume binary counter u can use the triangle away app
guys,
if i install roms via CWM it add binary counting?
same question about Odin...
plz suggest...
Somehow i have now 1 counted already
Using CWM won't increase your binary counter, but using Odin will :
Counter is increased each time you flash something (ROM, kernel, ...) using download mode (and Odin). As CWM is in recovery mode, it won't increase binary counter.
If you want to reset your counter, you can use TriangleAway ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114 ), but it's a highly unrecommended operation if you don't plan to return your phone for warranty.
Maxypy said:
Using CWM won't increase your binary counter, but using Odin will :
Counter is increased each time you flash something (ROM, kernel, ...) using download mode (and Odin). As CWM is in recovery mode, it won't increase binary counter.
If you want to reset your counter, you can use TriangleAway ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114 ), but it's a highly unrecommended operation if you don't plan to return your phone for warranty.
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i've installed JB leak ending 4 (one before the last one) using ODIN so now i've counter... well hopefully i wont need give it to warranty... if i will ever need to..i hope there will be more friendly counter reset mathod by then
tnx!!
I want update my JB into this version:
GT-I9300_I9300XXDLI5-OTA-I9300XXBLG8_BTU_297701247.ZIP
I can use odin to install this ZIP OTA?
Thanks!
rommark said:
i've installed JB leak ending 4 (one before the last one) using ODIN so now i've counter... well hopefully i wont need give it to warranty... if i will ever need to..i hope there will be more friendly counter reset mathod by then
tnx!!
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Triangle away is very friendly. Just read a little. And if you are rooted or have recovery installed, your binary counter is more than 0
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rommark said:
guys,
if i install roms via CWM it add binary counting?
same question about Odin...
plz suggest...
Somehow i have now 1 counted already
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Binary counter only increases if you change the recovery image or kernel image using odin.
Use odin to add cwm... Then use triangle away to reset your counter and then always flash via cwm... Your counter will stay at 0
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zoot1 said:
Binary counter only increases if you change the recovery image or kernel image using odin.
Use odin to add cwm... Then use triangle away to reset your counter and then always flash via cwm... Your counter will stay at 0
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^^What he said ^^.
I don't really care about the binary count. Although it is a good practice to keep it at zero, in case your phone breaks and you have to return for warranty.
(Good discussion but it could have been posted in q&a section)
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Hey,
I have still the original android 4.3 software installed, but rooted.
Now i decided to unroot it and it every tutorial i found , said to flash the stock rom in the end.
So do i need to flash the stock rom after all or should i only reset the flash counter ?
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1. Flash stock ROM
2. Root
3. Use Triangle away apk. -> Reset binary counter
4. Flash stock ROM