how to flash sprint htc evo 4g lte to Verizon prepaid??
Neither Verizon or Sprint allow you to flash phones to their network. I believe that includes prepaid services
u can flash to sprints boost easy easy..just google flash evo to boost, ive done 3 and an epic 4g touch, some people have successfully flashed cross network like your referring to but ive never tried.
u won't get lte yet but ull get 3g
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Flashing to boost is possible because its still a sprint device, as far as I know only lower tier providers like cricket allow you to flash. Verizon and Sprint keep tabs on all device id's and as far as I know no one has successfully flashed Verizon to Sprint or Sprint to Verizon
If anyone can tell me otherwise my gf would love to have a Maxx on Sprint lol
You cant move phones from verizon to sprint or vice versa
Thank you the gf suddenly called me a liar when she saw me comment on this thread lmao
Ive read multiple forums and seen at least ten people specifically mention their ltevo using Verizon $50 prepaid and stressed the speed was much better than boost. I can't recall their locations or specific situation as far as clean esn goes but I'd like to get to the bottom of this.
Hmm..good to know thanks
DanK4o8 said:
Ive read multiple forums and seen at least ten people specifically mention their ltevo using Verizon $50 prepaid and stressed the speed was much better than boost. I can't recall their locations or specific situation as far as clean esn goes but I'd like to get to the bottom of this.
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prob esn cloning. Its illegal, so i shouldnt say that you should google it
Lol I forgot about cloning...I remember some guy I worked with saying it didn't exist and a whole stupid argument
I know it's illegal. I have a phone w/ a bad esn. What are my options?
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Not too many legit options with a bad ESN. Sell it for parts?
I was wondering about the legit options. I didn't mean to suggest doing the illegal stuff, sorry.
Not much you can do besides flashing to a 2nd tier provider
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I was wondering about the legit options. I didn't mean to suggest doing the illegal stuff, sorry.
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NP. I'm not sure that you really have any legit options at this point other than selling for parts. Even flashing to boost is iffy since it's still Sprint's network and I'm sure they use the same ESN database.
You might be able to see if any devs are interested in buying it just for testing.
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I know this might not belong here but with talk of many wanting to switch carriers as a typical topic for those on Sprint and such I figured it couldn't hurt.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/29/verizon-lets-loose-its-stance-on-locked-bootloaders-in-letter-to/
there you have it folks if it was purely up to VZ all your phones would be locked so tight you couldn't do crap with them....tisk tisk
Wtf?
Apparently, open bootloaders would allow users to make changes to their phones and use software that "could negatively impact how the phone connects with the network" and "the wireless experience for other customers."
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I know this might not belong here but with talk of many wanting to switch carriers as a typical topic for those on Sprint and such I figured it couldn't hurt.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/29/verizon-lets-loose-its-stance-on-locked-bootloaders-in-letter-to/
there you have it folks if it was purely up to VZ all your phones would be locked so tight you couldn't do crap with them....tisk tisk
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Is it me or does the picture in the article show an Evo 3D?
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Is it me or does the picture in the article show an Evo 3D?
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It's the same picture from when they did the article that announced EVO 3D releasing with a locked bootloader.
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It's the same picture from when they did the article that announced EVO 3D releasing with a locked bootloader.
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and also the one they used for the unlock announcement. lol
This is why you buy a galaxy nexus with vzw. Lol
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So glad T-MO doesn't care about locking down their phones and lets OEMs decide...Rooting my GS2 was too easy, thanks Samsung.
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Jerry from androidcentral puts a little perspective and some good reasoning behind the whole bootloader issue.
I think what HTC did with their phones is a good way to go about doing it.
derik123derik123 said:
Jerry from androidcentral puts a little perspective and some good reasoning behind the whole bootloader issue.
I think what HTC did with their phones is a good way to go about doing it.
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Don't really agree with his point at all to be honest. The number that root are not the majority of users, and even more so the number of ppl that get ppl off Craigslist to do it for them is even more minute and can't be any part of the reason bc they represent such a small %...
Just make it to where in order to provide service u must have stock OS and everything on it. With out that u get no service or have to pay for said service at the least.
Hell they could make money off this crap if u think about it. Push ppl to unlock and try new things and then charge them to get it worked on if they ever bring it in. LOL
Set up an unlocked service fee and be done with it.
I get the argument against it with unlimited internet and ppl using it to tether for free but with tiered plans that doesn't matter really does it?
I'll agree though HTC doesit better than anyone looking at it from a business perspective. I understand samsungs are easier to unlock and such but their partions are completely different from what I understand so it'd take a lot to translate that to another device manufacture...
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See here
http://androidcommunity.com/unlocking-your-phone-petition-started-to-make-it-legal-20130127/
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See here
http://androidcommunity.com/unlocking-your-phone-petition-started-to-make-it-legal-20130127/
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we need another petition regarding kernel source!! i thought maybe we would get lucky seeing they gave the DNA source faster then they nornally do.. but nope!! back to the same BS
...........why?
This doesn't affect us at all.
If you're not under contract, the carrier will unlock it for you. If you're still under contract, you shouldnt be able to unlock it. Personally, I think this is good legislation.
Fair point Rxpert. I figure just because it doesn't affect CDMA users really, doesn't mean we can't act. However, I suppose that in terms of whether its good legislation, I really hadn't thought too much about the busines/economic perspective of the legislation. I mean, unlocking could drive phone prices up, I suppose. But GSM users are really pissed about this. They count on being able to switch phones easily (via sim swap) (which I envy) and I know many people are furious about this. I've even seen rants of it here,...figured I'd provide an outlet/recourse.
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Not to be a downer, but my guess is the petition will amount to nothing. The website the White House has set up for the people to petition only grants a response from the WH with enough signatures. Not like it's going to be seen by Congress. At any rate, isn't this along the same lines as not being able to bring my Sprint phone to VZW? We've never gotten anywhere with the ability to clone or port ESNs, so this only seems to be the same thing. Even if I buy my phone cash for $549.99 plus tax, it's still only good on Sprint.
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Not to be a downer, but my guess is the petition will amount to nothing. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
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Not quite, SOPA outcry definetly hammered down an ugly internet agenda the RIAA & MPAA would've jiized over.
This time its the carriers who will be wetting their panties over this.
Screw that.
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Not quite, SOPA outcry definetly hammered down an ugly internet agenda the RIAA & MPAA would've jiized over.
This time its the carriers who will be wetting their panties over this.
Screw that.
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First I want to say that I am in no way in support of this new ruling. It's just my opinion that we need to be petitioning the carriers or even the manufacturers of the devices. I don't think a comparison the SOPA is relevant though. That was something that would affect almost anyone that used the internet, allowing the government to shut down entire domains at will. We have to understand than the vast majority of people couldn't care less about unlocking a phone, so this law would have no effect on them. That's why the SOPA was in the headlines for weeks, maybe even months. It was a huge potential for a government power grab..locked cell phones, not so much.
I stand by opinion that the online We the People petition won't do much. I hope I'm wrong, but I really don't think enough people give a crap about this. Those of us who want an unlocked phone or even have the know how on how to do it are the few. I think the argument here is that you can indeed purchase an unlocked phone, just not one that's subsidised. Bottom line is, do folks like us care? If it were illegal to S Off your phone and flash roms would you not do it? Goes back to my earlier question. How is this any different than locking an ESN to a carrier? Where's the outcry over that? And if there was, how many everyday folks care?
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Here's a direct link to the petition
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Fair point Rxpert. I figure just because it doesn't affect CDMA users really, doesn't mean we can't act. However, I suppose that in terms of whether its good legislation, I really hadn't thought too much about the busines/economic perspective of the legislation. I mean, unlocking could drive phone prices up, I suppose. But GSM users are really pissed about this. They count on being able to switch phones easily (via sim swap) (which I envy) and I know many people are furious about this. I've even seen rants of it here,...figured I'd provide an outlet/recourse.
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Even for gsm users though.. the only reason to unlock a device under contract I can think of is because you've stopped paying the bill and the device has been blacklisted.
Obviously carriers don't want that, and if you signed a contract pony up and fulfill it.
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The law doesn't specify contracted phones, the law also doesn't protect gsm travelers going international or off contract phones that are still carrier locked.
Its too broad & flawed.
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https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2012-26308.pdf Here's the full document for anyone interested. Start at page 16. If I read it correctly sounds like the carriers are saying that even though you own the phone, you don't own the software. That the software is licensed to you. Maybe someone else can read and correct me. Again sound like they are locking gsm phones to the carrier same as cdma phones are. Only difference is you can buy a non subsidiary phone factory unlocked say from google or apple.
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https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2012-26308.pdf Here's the full document for anyone interested. Start at page 16. If I read it correctly sounds like the carriers are saying that even though you own the phone, you don't own the software. That the software is licensed to you. Maybe someone else can read and correct me. Again sound like they are locking gsm phones to the carrier same as cdma phones are. Only difference is you can buy a non subsidiary phone factory unlocked say from google or apple.
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Right, this is how it came through the DMCA. They list that as a copyright violation.
random question - off-contract paid for cell phone, is there any provision that the carrier has to allow you to unlock the phone, or can they just say tough titty, move along?
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random question - off-contract paid for cell phone, is there any provision that the carrier has to allow you to unlock the phone, or can they just say tough titty, move along?
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From what I've read and understand, doesn't sound like they are obligated to unlock it. Although ATT says that they will after the 2 years. Now, I obviously can be wrong, but that's what I'm gathering. Like I said, looks to me like they carriers are keeping the branded phones locked to their carrier. Same as cdma phones are. Nothing is stopping anyone from buying an unlocked phone directly from Google, Apple, Samsung, etc...Personally I don't ser it as a big deal other than I hate the government opposing it's will upon the American people..I could go on all day about that, but that's another discussion all in itself lol..
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I have the option of buying a Sprint Samsung galaxy note 3 n900p.12 for $240.00 I'm not sure if I should because it was apparently reported lost. I know someone that could clean the esn my only issue here is I want to be able to use it with a GSM carrier such as simply mobile or cricket or T-Mobile, etc. So my questions are one if it's rooted can it be used with a GSM carrier and will I get 4G speeds and two what's the value of a Sprint note 3. Thank you guys I appreciate the help.
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I have the option of buying a Sprint Samsung galaxy note 3 n900p.12 for $240.00 I'm not sure if I should because it was apparently reported lost. I know someone that could clean the esn my only issue here is I want to be able to use it with a GSM carrier such as simply mobile or cricket or T-Mobile, etc. So my questions are one if it's rooted can it be used with a GSM carrier and will I get 4G speeds and two what's the value of a Sprint note 3. Thank you guys I appreciate the help.
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I for one wouldn't go posting that you know someone that performs a service that doesn't appear kosher, as cleaning bad ESNs seems similar to laundering money. I don't believe the fine folks at Xda even want folks mentioning such services. If I'm off base, then tell me, and I will happily correct this.
As to using the GSM function, I believe that you'll never have 4G, from what I've read, but again I could be wrong. There are many threads on this forum exactly about this question.
Finally, why not buy the dang thing for the harvest? Heck, I'd buy it, clean ESN or no, as a spare part device, since at that price it is a dang good deal. You could probably make a tidy profit finding a buyer for it on Swappa, or a local cell repair store.
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I'm too am leary of buying a lost or stolen phone, but for $240 I would consider it. You can get it working on GSM (T-Mobile), and it will get decent data speeds. FWIW technically you will get T-Mobile 4G (it really named 3G/H+), but you wont get the LTE speeds. I tested a sprint S4 on tmobile, and it was getting 7mbps down and 1.2mbps up in my area. Talk and text worked great also.
this is hilarious, @micmars
your ability to be polite, and loquacious, with an undercurrent of smirk consistently astounds me,
and yes, for parts, sure. not for any other reason would I purchase this phone.
and further, xda is really Not Into having subjects about bad ENS stuff. expect a thread close.
And, thread closed as we do not do this type of discussion here...move along folks.
Hi, so after searching the forum for a bit I've decided to post my question, this is also my first post even though I've been a member for awhile.. Just the first time I haven't found exactly what I'm looking for. So hey hi hello. Okay. So. I am in need of a tutorial for the uninstall and replacement of the sim/micro sd port. Solder points ect. I'm not a master at modding devices, but I'm pretty sure this is within my ability. So yeah, thanks in advance.
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Hi, so after searching the forum for a bit I've decided to post my question, this is also my first post even though I've been a member for awhile.. Just the first time I haven't found exactly what I'm looking for. So hey hi hello. Okay. So. I am in need of a tutorial for the uninstall and replacement of the sim/micro sd port. Solder points ect. I'm not a master at modding devices, but I'm pretty sure this is within my ability. So yeah, thanks in advance.
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Why would you wanna do this , are you planing to taking over the world???? anyways you may be able to find a tear down of the phone and go from there. Maybe this link
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haha, nothing that sinister. im just having trouble getting my device unlocked for gsm networks. just a thought i was having. anyways, i couldnt get sprint to do an international unlock on it because it didnt have a sprint number attached to it. apparently.. ive used chainfires region lockaway. didnt seem to work, as i was going through the terminal emulator i couldnt get the sim lock to turn off. which i assume affected the editing of the build.prop i couldnt add the ril. and ro. lines. which in turn affects editing the apn, i cant add a straight talk apn. so now im sitting just going through files looking at all of them, wondering if i do some hardware modding and then edit the corresponding files... if there is a way around sprints customer service ineptitude.
maybe get a sprint prepaid service for a month or two, and tell them you going out of the country:fingers-crossed:
yeah i was coming to that conclusion myself. really id only need a sprint card long enough to activate it with them. i was really hoping to avoid giving that ... evil evil company, anymore money. ill keep digging for a day or two and post any progress.
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yeah i was coming to that conclusion myself. really id only need a sprint card long enough to activate it with them. i was really hoping to avoid giving that ... evil evil company, anymore money. ill keep digging for a day or two and post any progress.
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Yes sprint is a evil company ... How dare them not unlock a phone they are losing money on .... They pay full price and people want to get them cheap and unlock .. my phone is unlocked and had no problem doing it ...I have had sprint for about 10 years ... Do you really think that you should get a $700 phone and get it unlocked for like $200 and sprint just eat the rest. .. It's the reason there are international gsm phones ... You pay $700 and it's yours ... I just don't understand how all you people think by stealing these companies will not continue to allow this .... Should have got a vzw phone the government made them unlock them
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Sorry if I offended you. I assumed xda was a community of individuals that enjoy the challenges of outsmarting giant companies that.. I'm sorry, aren't losing money off these phones. I don't believe for a second sprint pays 700 + for this device. And regardless, what is the percentage of consumers that take the time to learn how to do anything technical enough to be considered rude or less profitable to the company? ..1 maybe 2 %? Like I said.. Sorry if I offended anyone, definitely not my intention. I bought this phone full priced.. Because I ran the meid through straight talk byop and it came up as compatible for their service. Then spent another 60 at Walmart to buy their activation kit. Yeah I consider a company that will put regional and domestic locks on their devices to turn more profit evil, and not just that, if you remember the launch of this device they didn't come out and tell people what they were doing with the locks; they waited until their was too many negative comments and videos going around to ignore. Even now people/business's that are less tech savvy are paying full prices to unlock their phones because their told it's the only way. My bad.
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Sorry if I offended you. I assumed xda was a community of individuals that enjoy the challenges of outsmarting giant companies that.. I'm sorry, aren't losing money off these phones. I don't believe for a second sprint pays 700 + for this device. And regardless, what is the percentage of consumers that take the time to learn how to do anything technical enough to be considered rude or less profitable to the company? ..1 maybe 2 %? Like I said.. Sorry if I offended anyone, definitely not my intention. I bought this phone full priced.. Because I ran the meid through straight talk byop and it came up as compatible for their service. Then spent another 60 at Walmart to buy their activation kit. Yeah I consider a company that will put regional and domestic locks on their devices to turn more profit evil, and not just that, if you remember the launch of this device they didn't come out and tell people what they were doing with the locks; they waited until their was too many negative comments and videos going around to ignore. Even now people/business's that are less tech savvy are paying full prices to unlock their phones because their told it's the only way. My bad.
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If you paid full retail. .... If .... Yes they should unlock for you but you also have to see the company side. ... They are there to make money ... They are a public company ... They answer to Stock holders. .. They don't pay 700 but yet they pay way more than 200 and they get their money back by the customer fulfilling the contact they sign. ... If they lose 400 on one out of 20 phones. ... That amount is at least double that on s4 and lg g2 just because they are easier to unlock .... I can tell you this is not acceptable to the ceo and others running sprint . So I can almost guarantee it will get harder to unlock these phones because of it . I am not offended but I see both sides of the argument
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If you paid full retail. .... If .... Yes they should unlock for you but you also have to see the company side. ... They are there to make money ... They are a public company ... They answer to Stock holders. .. They don't pay 700 but yet they pay way more than 200 and they get their money back by the customer fulfilling the contact they sign. ... If they lose 400 on one out of 20 phones. ... That amount is at least double that on s4 and lg g2 just because they are easier to unlock .... I can tell you this is not acceptable to the ceo and others running sprint . So I can almost guarantee it will get harder to unlock these phones because of it . I am not offended but I see both sides of the argument
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Geez I just realized my reply didnt post. If I remember correctly; it was really long winded, basically only amounting to one actual point, I just said I totally understand that aspect of it, and that I completely support the capitalistic way of life. Everyone from a CEO to a cashier at McDonald's is just trying to get paid and make the people around them happy. Really the only thing that bothers me is when they've clearly made their money off me, and now are gouging me for the few pennies and nickels I have left. I'm a typical poor college kid, so money really matters to me when I get it. And yes I did *really* pay full price for the phone, so this is just that much more annoying. I've mostly given up on getting it to work, aside from today, I put about 2 hours into digging around the net and snooping through the devices root directories. I had a thought that maybe if i could get a log of another note 3 source codes as a unrecognized sim was inserted, pushing the msl unlock prompt. maybe I could write an adb command emulating that. The problem I'm still stuck at is having an invalid sim error, tried 2 different carriers sim cards now (straight talk and verizon) having verizon show as invalid confused me because they are CDMA as well. Not really sure, Oh also getting a prepaid sprint plan apparently is a no go because their prepaid service only works for like three or four of their phones, and the note 3 isn't one of them. so I couldn't activate it if I wanted to.
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Geez I just realized my reply didnt post. If I remember correctly; it was really long winded, basically only amounting to one actual point, I just said I totally understand that aspect of it, and that I completely support the capitalistic way of life. Everyone from a CEO to a cashier at McDonald's is just trying to get paid and make the people around them happy. Really the only thing that bothers me is when they've clearly made their money off me, and now are gouging me for the few pennies and nickels I have left. I'm a typical poor college kid, so money really matters to me when I get it. And yes I did *really* pay full price for the phone, so this is just that much more annoying. I've mostly given up on getting it to work, aside from today, I put about 2 hours into digging around the net and snooping through the devices root directories. I had a thought that maybe if i could get a log of another note 3 source codes as a unrecognized sim was inserted, pushing the msl unlock prompt. maybe I could write an adb command emulating that. The problem I'm still stuck at is having an invalid sim error, tried 2 different carriers sim cards now (straight talk and verizon) having verizon show as invalid confused me because they are CDMA as well. Not really sure, Oh also getting a prepaid sprint plan apparently is a no go because their prepaid service only works for like three or four of their phones, and the note 3 isn't one of them. so I couldn't activate it if I wanted to.
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They are first cdma phones not true gsm ... so sprint just like Verizon will never let another cdma phone on their system.... The only way to do such a thing is to change esn to a known good vzw esn ...which is illegal by the way ... You could never get vzw lte bands with this phone which is the only reason it has a sim card ... it can be put on cricket etc some other carriers as well ...do some research
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Does anyone know of a way for your texts to send over wifi on a m8 ?
I have no signal at home and I"am looking for a way to send and receive texts through my at&t phone number.
I have looked up app after app after app and it seems none can send and receive over wifi alone using my at&t phone number.
I have seen many that require you both have the same app on your phone or you have to use a number they give you.
I have tried google voice and it works good but I cant use my at&t number on it, have to use a google voice number.
Does anyone know if at&t can forward all your texts to another number, as that would work also, but an app that uses wifi would be best.
I have all my calls forwarded to my magicjack number and run the magicjack app on my m8 so I get my calls with no signal at home, I just cant get my texts.
I cant really call at&t and ask them either because I have their service through straight talk at&t so they are not my customer service and calling straight talk is always a waste of time because they can never tell you anything.
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Does anyone know of a way for your texts to send over wifi on a m8 ?
I have no signal at home and I"am looking for a way to send and receive texts through my at&t phone number.
I have looked up app after app after app and it seems none can send and receive over wifi alone using my at&t phone number.
I have seen many that require you both have the same app on your phone or you have to use a number they give you.
I have tried google voice and it works good but I cant use my at&t number on it, have to use a google voice number.
Does anyone know if at&t can forward all your texts to another number, as that would work also, but an app that uses wifi would be best.
I have all my calls forwarded to my magicjack number and run the magicjack app on my m8 so I get my calls with no signal at home, I just cant get my texts.
I cant really call at&t and ask them either because I have their service through straight talk at&t so they are not my customer service and calling straight talk is always a waste of time because they can never tell you anything.
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Get one of these. If you have no signal at home, now you will. It's your own AT&T cell tower that uses your internet to carry the traffic ( voice and data both ).
http://www.att.com/standalone/3gmicrocell/?fbid=RShAUcaVks9
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Get one of these. If you have no signal at home, now you will. It's your own AT&T cell tower that uses your internet to carry the traffic ( voice and data both ).
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You have to have a post paid at&t account to get one of those activated, as I listed I"am on straight talk which is a prepaid at&t mvno, so that is not an option.
Just a side question, but why use a carrier that doesn't get reception at your house? Seems like the primary place (in addition to work/school) that you would want reception. Using a cheaper provider isn't any good, if you don't get service where you need it.
I know this isn't you point of your question, although it is the root cause of your issue.
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Just a side question, but why use a carrier that doesn't get reception at your house? Seems like the primary place (in addition to work/school) that you would want reception. Using a cheaper provider isn't any good, if you don't get service where you need it.
I know this isn't you point of your question, although it is the root cause of your issue.
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Actually I"am in a rural area, so there is no carrier that has good signal here, not even verizon, so what your saying does not apply to this situation.
And for the record the cheap prepaid service providers use the same networks as the post paid. The only difference is the people on post paid get price gouged and in the long run pay way more than the retail price of the phone, prepaid uses the same towers and the same signal.
Such as my straight talk is an at&t mvno which its the same towers and signal as what a regular post paid at&t subscriber gets.
The only difference is they pay over $90 a month and only get 2gb's of data where I pay $45 a month for the same unlimited talk and text but I get 3gb's of data instead of the 2 they get and mine includes LTE also.
So contrary to what you say cheap providers are good and your believing they are not is nieave and an uneducated opinion.
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Actually I"am in a rural area, so there is no carrier that has good signal here, not even verizon, so what your saying does not apply to this situation.
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I suspected that might be the base (that no carrier gets good reception at your home). But as it was never stated, I was only raising the question.
I already knew all the other stuff you typed, so I'm not as "naive" (that is how its actually spelled) and uneducated as you assume. No need to get defensive and resort to name calling. I was simply raising a legitimate question.
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I suspected that might be the base (that no carrier gets good reception at your home). But as it was never stated, I was only raising the question.
I already knew all the other stuff you typed, so I'm not as "naive" (that is how its actually spelled) and uneducated as you assume. No need to get defensive and resort to name calling. I was simply raising a legitimate question.
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I didnt call you uneducated or naive, I called your response that because you blamed it all on " a cheap provider isnt any good " when you were just spewing comments that you cannot back up with evidence. When truth be told being prepaid " cheap not any good provider " as you listed, has nothing to do with the price of tea in China.
Your unsupported opinion of cheap providers was not asked for and is without merit.
Roefastford said:
I didnt call you uneducated or naive, I called your response that because you blamed it all on " a cheap provider isnt any good " when you were just spewing comments that you cannot back up with evidence. When truth be told being prepaid " cheap not any good provider " as you listed, has nothing to do with the price of tea in China.
Your unsupported opinion of cheap providers was not asked for and is without merit.
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You are reading far too much into my post. I never made any comments about the quality of prepaid or "cheap" providers. I just stated a hypothetical statement about a cheaper provider (just meaning costing less, but not necessarily "cheap" which implies low quality) but really all hinging on the question of why you were using that provider, which you subsequently answered.
I know many folks on here are happy with Straight Talk, and I have no negative opinion of the service. My apologies if you for some reason think such a thing was suggested in my post.
Really we are off topic here, and I did not mean to start a pissing contest. I'm not that type of XDA member, so we can just drop it.
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You are reading far too much into my post. I never made any comments about the quality of prepaid or "cheap" providers. I just stated a hypothetical statement about a cheaper provider (just meaning costing less, but not necessarily "cheap" which implies low quality) but really all hinging on the question of why you were using that provider, which you subsequently answered.
I know many folks on here are happy with Straight Talk, and I have no negative opinion of the service. My apologies if you for some reason think such a thing was suggested in my post.
Really we are off topic here, and I did not mean to start a pissing contest. I'm not that type of XDA member, so we can just drop it.
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How is it low quality when you get the same towers and the same signal as the post paid accounts ????
But you did exactly that you blamed it on the prepaid service. Did you forget you posted " Using a cheaper provider isn't any good, if you don't get service where you need it. " Then you posted " although it is the root cause of your issue. "
You posted " although it is the root cause of your issue. " Blaming my issues on prepaid, you must have forgot you posted that...
Roefastford said:
How is it low quality when you get the same towers and the same signal as the post paid accounts ????
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I stated that I was not implying "cheap" or low quality. Seriously, you simply don't get what I am saying at all.
Roefastford said:
But you did exactly that you blamed it on the prepaid service. Did you forget you posted " Using a cheaper provider isn't any good, if you don't get service where you need it. " Then you posted " although it is the root cause of your issue. "
You posted " although it is the root cause of your issue. " Blaming my issues on prepaid, you must have forgot you posted that...
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The fact the carrier (no matter if its prepaid or whatever) has no reception at your home is in fact the root cause. My main point was, is there another carrier in you area that has better reception? Which you subsequently answered "no".
Seriously, it seems like you are the kind of guy that likes to get into pissing contests. So I'm done here. Any further discussion will probably just get shut down by the mods at this point.
redpoint73 said:
I stated that I was not implying "cheap" or low quality. Seriously, you simply don't get what I am saying at all.
The fact the carrier (no matter if its prepaid or whatever) has no reception at your home is in fact the root cause. My main point was, is there another carrier in you area that has better reception? Which you subsequently answered "no".
Seriously, it seems like you are the kind of guy that likes to get into pissing contests. So I'm done here. Any further discussion will probably just get shut down by the mods at this point.
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I just have a problem with people that think they know it all and post things that they have no clue about. You were just aching to put your 2 cents in blaming it on prepaid. That is the whole thing, you posted a comment that you had no business posting because it was not true and had no bearing on what the posting was about. You posted my being prepaid " is the root cause of your issue " when you have no clue and you assumed that. You know what you do when you assUme this was your commenting things that are untrue and you have no evidence to back up.
Your just saying its a pissing contest because you refuse to admit you were wong and keep denying that you said my being prepaid was
' is the root cause of your issue " So your the one making it a pissing contest because you wont admit your wrong... And you keep denying you said that when its right in your post staring in your face...
Roefastford said:
I just have a problem with people that think they know it all and post things that they have no clue about. You were just aching to put your 2 cents in blaming it on prepaid. That is the whole thing, you posted a comment that you had no business posting because it was not true and had no bearing on what the posting was about. You posted my being prepaid " is the root cause of your issue " when you have no clue and you assumed that. You know what you do when you assUme this was your commenting things that are untrue and you have no evidence to back up.
Your just saying its a pissing contest because you refuse to admit you were wong and keep denying that you said my being prepaid was
' is the root cause of your issue " So your the one making it a pissing contest because you wont admit your wrong... And you keep denying you said that when its right in your post staring in your face...
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Roefastford said:
I just have a problem with people that think they know it all and post things that they have no clue about. You were just aching to put your 2 cents in blaming it on prepaid. That is the whole thing, you posted a comment that you had no business posting because it was not true and had no bearing on what the posting was about. You posted my being prepaid " is the root cause of your issue " when you have no clue and you assumed that. You know what you do when you assUme this was your commenting things that are untrue and you have no evidence to back up.
Your just saying its a pissing contest because you refuse to admit you were wong and keep denying that you said my being prepaid was
' is the root cause of your issue " So your the one making it a pissing contest because you wont admit your wrong... And you keep denying you said that when its right in your post staring in your face...
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Please have a little respect that this is my posting and please move on.