See here
http://androidcommunity.com/unlocking-your-phone-petition-started-to-make-it-legal-20130127/
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See here
http://androidcommunity.com/unlocking-your-phone-petition-started-to-make-it-legal-20130127/
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we need another petition regarding kernel source!! i thought maybe we would get lucky seeing they gave the DNA source faster then they nornally do.. but nope!! back to the same BS
...........why?
This doesn't affect us at all.
If you're not under contract, the carrier will unlock it for you. If you're still under contract, you shouldnt be able to unlock it. Personally, I think this is good legislation.
Fair point Rxpert. I figure just because it doesn't affect CDMA users really, doesn't mean we can't act. However, I suppose that in terms of whether its good legislation, I really hadn't thought too much about the busines/economic perspective of the legislation. I mean, unlocking could drive phone prices up, I suppose. But GSM users are really pissed about this. They count on being able to switch phones easily (via sim swap) (which I envy) and I know many people are furious about this. I've even seen rants of it here,...figured I'd provide an outlet/recourse.
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Not to be a downer, but my guess is the petition will amount to nothing. The website the White House has set up for the people to petition only grants a response from the WH with enough signatures. Not like it's going to be seen by Congress. At any rate, isn't this along the same lines as not being able to bring my Sprint phone to VZW? We've never gotten anywhere with the ability to clone or port ESNs, so this only seems to be the same thing. Even if I buy my phone cash for $549.99 plus tax, it's still only good on Sprint.
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Not to be a downer, but my guess is the petition will amount to nothing. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
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Not quite, SOPA outcry definetly hammered down an ugly internet agenda the RIAA & MPAA would've jiized over.
This time its the carriers who will be wetting their panties over this.
Screw that.
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Not quite, SOPA outcry definetly hammered down an ugly internet agenda the RIAA & MPAA would've jiized over.
This time its the carriers who will be wetting their panties over this.
Screw that.
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First I want to say that I am in no way in support of this new ruling. It's just my opinion that we need to be petitioning the carriers or even the manufacturers of the devices. I don't think a comparison the SOPA is relevant though. That was something that would affect almost anyone that used the internet, allowing the government to shut down entire domains at will. We have to understand than the vast majority of people couldn't care less about unlocking a phone, so this law would have no effect on them. That's why the SOPA was in the headlines for weeks, maybe even months. It was a huge potential for a government power grab..locked cell phones, not so much.
I stand by opinion that the online We the People petition won't do much. I hope I'm wrong, but I really don't think enough people give a crap about this. Those of us who want an unlocked phone or even have the know how on how to do it are the few. I think the argument here is that you can indeed purchase an unlocked phone, just not one that's subsidised. Bottom line is, do folks like us care? If it were illegal to S Off your phone and flash roms would you not do it? Goes back to my earlier question. How is this any different than locking an ESN to a carrier? Where's the outcry over that? And if there was, how many everyday folks care?
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Here's a direct link to the petition
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Fair point Rxpert. I figure just because it doesn't affect CDMA users really, doesn't mean we can't act. However, I suppose that in terms of whether its good legislation, I really hadn't thought too much about the busines/economic perspective of the legislation. I mean, unlocking could drive phone prices up, I suppose. But GSM users are really pissed about this. They count on being able to switch phones easily (via sim swap) (which I envy) and I know many people are furious about this. I've even seen rants of it here,...figured I'd provide an outlet/recourse.
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Even for gsm users though.. the only reason to unlock a device under contract I can think of is because you've stopped paying the bill and the device has been blacklisted.
Obviously carriers don't want that, and if you signed a contract pony up and fulfill it.
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The law doesn't specify contracted phones, the law also doesn't protect gsm travelers going international or off contract phones that are still carrier locked.
Its too broad & flawed.
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https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2012-26308.pdf Here's the full document for anyone interested. Start at page 16. If I read it correctly sounds like the carriers are saying that even though you own the phone, you don't own the software. That the software is licensed to you. Maybe someone else can read and correct me. Again sound like they are locking gsm phones to the carrier same as cdma phones are. Only difference is you can buy a non subsidiary phone factory unlocked say from google or apple.
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https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2012-26308.pdf Here's the full document for anyone interested. Start at page 16. If I read it correctly sounds like the carriers are saying that even though you own the phone, you don't own the software. That the software is licensed to you. Maybe someone else can read and correct me. Again sound like they are locking gsm phones to the carrier same as cdma phones are. Only difference is you can buy a non subsidiary phone factory unlocked say from google or apple.
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Right, this is how it came through the DMCA. They list that as a copyright violation.
random question - off-contract paid for cell phone, is there any provision that the carrier has to allow you to unlock the phone, or can they just say tough titty, move along?
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random question - off-contract paid for cell phone, is there any provision that the carrier has to allow you to unlock the phone, or can they just say tough titty, move along?
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From what I've read and understand, doesn't sound like they are obligated to unlock it. Although ATT says that they will after the 2 years. Now, I obviously can be wrong, but that's what I'm gathering. Like I said, looks to me like they carriers are keeping the branded phones locked to their carrier. Same as cdma phones are. Nothing is stopping anyone from buying an unlocked phone directly from Google, Apple, Samsung, etc...Personally I don't ser it as a big deal other than I hate the government opposing it's will upon the American people..I could go on all day about that, but that's another discussion all in itself lol..
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Since at&t is buying T-Mobile (39 billion), and all of us will be switching to at&T's contract. And their policies are so much more strict.. they don't allow Third party apps on their phones. They make em not possible to download. But if we are rooted with a different ROM couldn't we download and use 'em?... I also know they don't allow tethering, but I know we can get around that. And I'm also curious if anybody knows how that transfer is gonna work. I seen on AndroidGuys that all Tmobile users will need to send in phones to either make them compatable on at&t network or take on of their phones for same price range. Anyone know how any of this is going to happen?
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I believe there is already a way to sideload unauthorized apps on att phones.
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Since at&t is buying T-Mobile (39 billion), and all of us will be switching to at&T's contract. And their policies are so much more strict.. they don't allow Third party apps on their phones. They make em not possible to download. But if we are rooted with a different ROM couldn't we download and use 'em?... I also know they don't allow tethering, but I know we can get around that. And I'm also curious if anybody knows how that transfer is gonna work. I seen on AndroidGuys that all Tmobile users will need to send in phones to either make them compatable on at&t network or take on of their phones for same price range. Anyone know how any of this is going to happen?
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Att just can't buy T-Mobile. If govwrmemt thinks its going to create monopoly and doesn't approve it att can't buy T-Mobile. Sprint is already working on it to stop it saying it will create monopoly .
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From what I hear the deal is finalized but I hope its not true as I hate hate hate AT&T with a passion !!!
I hope it never happens. Competition is good as it promotes ingenuity and cost effectiveness. This is an attempt to monopolize the industry. Broadband gets cheaper for the carrier while it gets more expensive for the consumer. Interesting to note, sprint first attempted to buy t-mobile for around 12-15 billion so they are fast from innocent by standers. Tell you what, if this happens I'm bouncing to sprint as they will offer the best rates and phones because they will be the little dog.
Keep in mind, both verizon and att have hard line services and home internet services they will protect. Who is impacted by that? The wireless consumer is as they will limit data to help drive business to the other services.
We will see who makes decisions. .what's good for the people or private interest. Knowing most of these politicians take contributions from corporations dont be surprised if you see it pass under the guise of "offering a stronger network to folks in rural areas" or "this will help with innovation." B.S..........
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From what I hear the deal is finalized but I hope its not true as I hate hate hate AT&T with a passion !!!
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Same here. It is hard to swallow, but this is reality..sigh
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From what I hear the deal is finalized but I hope its not true as I hate hate hate AT&T with a passion !!!
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Same here. It is hard to swallow, but this is reality..sigh
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The deal isn't "finalized". Although the two companies may have made the agreement, they aren't the only ones who have a say in it. They still need regulatory approval for the deal, which doesn't happen overnight. Although they will probably get approval for it.
This is an interesting read though:
http://www.fiercecable.com/story/opposition-forms-fight-att-t-mobile-merger/2011-03-23
I hate AT&T and all there **MOD EDIT** shenanigans ( locked phones , no third party apps , data caps , high price's for crappy service ) . If this goes down I dropping them .
I know this might not belong here but with talk of many wanting to switch carriers as a typical topic for those on Sprint and such I figured it couldn't hurt.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/29/verizon-lets-loose-its-stance-on-locked-bootloaders-in-letter-to/
there you have it folks if it was purely up to VZ all your phones would be locked so tight you couldn't do crap with them....tisk tisk
Wtf?
Apparently, open bootloaders would allow users to make changes to their phones and use software that "could negatively impact how the phone connects with the network" and "the wireless experience for other customers."
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I know this might not belong here but with talk of many wanting to switch carriers as a typical topic for those on Sprint and such I figured it couldn't hurt.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/29/verizon-lets-loose-its-stance-on-locked-bootloaders-in-letter-to/
there you have it folks if it was purely up to VZ all your phones would be locked so tight you couldn't do crap with them....tisk tisk
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Is it me or does the picture in the article show an Evo 3D?
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Is it me or does the picture in the article show an Evo 3D?
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It's the same picture from when they did the article that announced EVO 3D releasing with a locked bootloader.
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It's the same picture from when they did the article that announced EVO 3D releasing with a locked bootloader.
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and also the one they used for the unlock announcement. lol
This is why you buy a galaxy nexus with vzw. Lol
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So glad T-MO doesn't care about locking down their phones and lets OEMs decide...Rooting my GS2 was too easy, thanks Samsung.
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Jerry from androidcentral puts a little perspective and some good reasoning behind the whole bootloader issue.
I think what HTC did with their phones is a good way to go about doing it.
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Jerry from androidcentral puts a little perspective and some good reasoning behind the whole bootloader issue.
I think what HTC did with their phones is a good way to go about doing it.
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Don't really agree with his point at all to be honest. The number that root are not the majority of users, and even more so the number of ppl that get ppl off Craigslist to do it for them is even more minute and can't be any part of the reason bc they represent such a small %...
Just make it to where in order to provide service u must have stock OS and everything on it. With out that u get no service or have to pay for said service at the least.
Hell they could make money off this crap if u think about it. Push ppl to unlock and try new things and then charge them to get it worked on if they ever bring it in. LOL
Set up an unlocked service fee and be done with it.
I get the argument against it with unlimited internet and ppl using it to tether for free but with tiered plans that doesn't matter really does it?
I'll agree though HTC doesit better than anyone looking at it from a business perspective. I understand samsungs are easier to unlock and such but their partions are completely different from what I understand so it'd take a lot to translate that to another device manufacture...
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how to flash sprint htc evo 4g lte to Verizon prepaid??
Neither Verizon or Sprint allow you to flash phones to their network. I believe that includes prepaid services
u can flash to sprints boost easy easy..just google flash evo to boost, ive done 3 and an epic 4g touch, some people have successfully flashed cross network like your referring to but ive never tried.
u won't get lte yet but ull get 3g
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Flashing to boost is possible because its still a sprint device, as far as I know only lower tier providers like cricket allow you to flash. Verizon and Sprint keep tabs on all device id's and as far as I know no one has successfully flashed Verizon to Sprint or Sprint to Verizon
If anyone can tell me otherwise my gf would love to have a Maxx on Sprint lol
You cant move phones from verizon to sprint or vice versa
Thank you the gf suddenly called me a liar when she saw me comment on this thread lmao
Ive read multiple forums and seen at least ten people specifically mention their ltevo using Verizon $50 prepaid and stressed the speed was much better than boost. I can't recall their locations or specific situation as far as clean esn goes but I'd like to get to the bottom of this.
Hmm..good to know thanks
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Ive read multiple forums and seen at least ten people specifically mention their ltevo using Verizon $50 prepaid and stressed the speed was much better than boost. I can't recall their locations or specific situation as far as clean esn goes but I'd like to get to the bottom of this.
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prob esn cloning. Its illegal, so i shouldnt say that you should google it
Lol I forgot about cloning...I remember some guy I worked with saying it didn't exist and a whole stupid argument
I know it's illegal. I have a phone w/ a bad esn. What are my options?
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Not too many legit options with a bad ESN. Sell it for parts?
I was wondering about the legit options. I didn't mean to suggest doing the illegal stuff, sorry.
Not much you can do besides flashing to a 2nd tier provider
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I was wondering about the legit options. I didn't mean to suggest doing the illegal stuff, sorry.
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NP. I'm not sure that you really have any legit options at this point other than selling for parts. Even flashing to boost is iffy since it's still Sprint's network and I'm sure they use the same ESN database.
You might be able to see if any devs are interested in buying it just for testing.
Here is the ABC News link:
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319518
I just want to clarify that
I am not trying to "sensationalize" the issue.
I am not trying to pass on "misinformation."
I don't write for ABC.
I don't write legislation.
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I am merely sharing a link on a story that you will see sooner or later.
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A link has been added to sign a petition if you are interested. It requires a "White House DOT Gov Account." Why?" Big Brother, probably.
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Let us expand on the sensationalistic thread title, as many will not click through to see the real story, shall we?
Unauthorized subsidy unlocks performed without the consent of the carrier, return to being illegal under the DMCA today.
This does not mean that AT&T or T-Mobile won't or cannot provide unlocks, although it could mean that they might become less likely to do so during the period between the user purchasing the device at new line or upgrade pricing and the contract period expiring or an ETF being paid.
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It is not illegal to unlock my phone, like you said. It is for phones purchased after today.
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It is not illegal to unlock my phone, like you said. It is for phones purchased after today.
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No, you misread it. If your phone was unlocked as of today then you are grandfathered in. If it is not unlocked then it is illegal for you to unlock it without the consent of the carrier.
Edit: My apologies PaulF8080 as you are correct and the story in the first post is not written correctly.
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*cough cough*
Ebay *cough*
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............................*sneeze*
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This may just drive up the prices of unlocked phones on eBay. Still curious to know how carriers will know if your phone was unlocked yesterday or tomorrow. I tend to use Canadian unlocked phones anyways.
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No, you misread it. If your phone was unlocked as of today then you are grandfathered in. If it is not unlocked then it is illegal for you to unlock it without the consent of the carrier.
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This is misinformation.
Any phone bought before today can be carrier unlocked, legally. And then there is the fact that the carriers are not really on a witch hunt to find anyone anyway. At least not yet.
Seems that story in the first post may be incorrect. You are correct kimtyson.
Unlocking phones without the express consent of the carrier who locked them became illegal thanks to edits to DMCA exemptions back in October, but it's only now that the 90-day grace period is running out. Locked phones purchased in the 90 days after the ruling are still game to be unlocked, but from here on out, for an unlocked phone to be legitimate, it'll have to have been bought that way or come with a permission slip from your carrier.
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Taken from: http://gizmodo.com/5978982/unlocking-your-phone-is-illegal-starting-tomorrow
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It should be illegal when/if you still have contract or the phone is on EIP. other that it should be fine because you own the phone and you can do what u you want with the phone
granted it maybe, but when I saw the article, I went on to ATT chat this morning and unlocked my wife's SIII. Did my replacement note about 3 weeks back. Both phones under original 24 month contract, mine 8 months since upgrade, wife's about 6 months since her upgrade, both subsidized by the way......
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How in the world are people going to enforce this?
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How in the world are people going to enforce this?
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Actually pretty simple, service provides will no longer unlock your phone and the pay for folks will charge four times the amount, because that is what the service providers will charge them. Not hard at all.
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This may just drive up the prices of unlocked phones on eBay. Still curious to know how carriers will know if your phone was unlocked yesterday or tomorrow. I tend to use Canadian unlocked phones anyways.
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Nah, I don't think so...Apparently, it is still legal to unlock your phone if you bought it used.
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Legacy phones, i.e. "used (or perhaps unused) phones previously purchased or otherwise acquired by a consumer" are still cool to unlock, and that definition has a little bit of play in it.
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My opinion... If I want to unlock my phone fully (and the option to do so exists) I'm going to do it. It's not like I can jump carriers & not pay the ETF before the contract is up.
Just another example of crap legislation from D.C. morons.
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This contradicts legislation already in place called fair use, which means if you buy a phone outright (no contract or used), you are free to modify it any way you please.
That law came as a result of class action against at&t and the iphone.
If you buy a phone at a subsidized price through a contract/upgrade, you break the law for flashing non-carrier software. The carrier still owns the phone until you pay it off.
Throwing a bone into the equation. For example, look at all the used ATT Notes that are for sale at this moment. I would say most of those are still involved with a subsidized 2 year contract. So how would future purchases like this be handled? I wonder if IMEI codes will have to be released before they can become unlocked. That would be the only way to run checks on this.
All I can say about that is a web service chat session with at&t gets you the code.
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Here is the ABC News link:
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319518
I just want to clarify that
I am not trying to "sensationalize" the issue.
I am not trying to pass on "misinformation."
I don't write for ABC.
I don't write legislation.
I don't vote on the passage of legislation.
I am merely sharing a link on a story that you will see sooner or later.
At least now you can say you saw it first on XDA!
DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER.
Please hit the "Thanks" button.
A link has been added to sign a petition if you are interested. It requires a "White House DOT Gov Account." Why?" Big Brother, probably.
I am not afilliated with the Federal Government,
I am not afilliated with any State Government,
I am not afilliated with Law Enforcement,
IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
I'm just a regular dude trying to make a positive, informative contribution to the community which I love so much and am very greatful and appreciative for ALL of the contributors, and everyone who shares. Where would we be without the Devs? Running STOCK, UNROOTED!
The petiton link was found via www.phonearena.com.
White House Petition:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7
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Lmao You guys think there going to approve this and make it legal again?
T-Mobile and AT&T are the ones who created to make the idea of unlocking illegal and presented it to the Congress. I don't see them making this legal again. Obviously its a monopoly.
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This seems like it's aimed at people who are selling unlocked phones in higher numbers - it's not illegal to call up your carrier, request the unlock code, and unlock the phone, yesterday or today or whenever. It's only illegal if they say "no" and you go ahead and unlock it by some other means.
IMO, this is aimed for iPhone users - my phone took me 5 minutes to unlock, since I happened to have a SIM from another carrier. iPhones need to go through some big process to unlock, even officially. I asked for my wife's unlock code for her phone, and they gave this whole list of instructions, which included 24-48 hour wait for the code to be obtained, or something.
If I had to go through that with the Note, I might think about unlocking it by some other means as well, especially if I'm just trying to sell it.
As the title stated I have a Note 3 that I "can" donate to Adam. Please in response to this thread do NOT make mention of $ donations, pay-pal, or your favorite pets piggy bank. Kush of any kind, side shooters and hashish are also not to be mentioned. With that being said I would like to donate (for a good cause) my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 to Outler. Also this phone is my daily driver but I have a galaxy note 2 that I could be using if it were no longer broken. It needs the complete screen assembly. So if someone happened to have extra parts laying around or knew of extremely cheap parts for sale, I could fix my note 2 and ship out my note 3 to a cool guy that does cool stuff with hardware on awesome phones. I live in the Dallas area.
I re read the XDA rules and this post does not appear to violate any of them, but I also understand that interpretation is 93% of any rule/law. I am however not asking for donations for any reason and I am NOT asking for money at all. Thank you and good day.
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As the title stated I have a Note 3 that I "can" donate to Adam. Please in response to this thread do NOT make mention of $ donations, pay-pal, or your favorite pets piggy bank. Kush of any kind, side shooters and hashish are also not to be mentioned. With that being said I would like to donate (for a good cause) my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 to Outler. Also this phone is my daily driver but I have a galaxy note 2 that I could be using if it were no longer broken. It needs the complete screen assembly. So if someone happened to have extra parts laying around or knew of extremely cheap parts for sale, I could fix my note 2 and ship out my note 3 to a cool guy that does cool stuff with hardware on awesome phones. I live in the Dallas area.
I re read the XDA rules and this post does not appear to violate any of them, but I also understand that interpretation is 93% of any rule/law. I am however not asking for donations for any reason and I am NOT asking for money at all. Thank you and good day.
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Not sure what's wrong with your note 2, but if its the digitizer sensor board ~$14
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Digitiz...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item3cd73f961d
or the lens ~$13
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Touch-S...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item4174b88d2b
If its the LCD, then those are running like $140+
From your post sounds like all 3, but figured i'd drop those for reference.
Yeah it needs all three parts. :crying: thought it would be worth a shot though.
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Yeah it needs all three parts. :crying: thought it would be worth a shot though.
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I can get you in touch with adam
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I can get you in touch with adam
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While I do thank you for the kindness and gesture, I am able to get in touch with him. I may have to wait a week or two until I can get parts for my note 2, but the moment my note 2 is operational I will FedEx the Note 3 overnight to him. The note 3 was free to me so I'm not at a loss in re-gifting it. I will upgrade my other line in due time to another 3 when and if the boot loader is unlocked or a custom recovery/kernel is flashable.
Like I said before, if you have a Note 2 laying around or parts to fix mine, I am not against paying for the parts but I don't have much money..... (3 kids @ Baylor are keeping me at the poverty line) literally.
Correct me if im wrong but don't ERD's get devices to develop for anyways?
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Thank you so much, you are a hero. Let's hope for the best
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While I do thank you for the kindness and gesture, I am able to get in touch with him. I may have to wait a week or two until I can get parts for my note 2, but the moment my note 2 is operational I will FedEx the Note 3 overnight to him. The note 3 was free to me so I'm not at a loss in re-gifting it. I will upgrade my other line in due time to another 3 when and if the boot loader is unlocked or a custom recovery/kernel is flashable.
Like I said before, if you have a Note 2 laying around or parts to fix mine, I am not against paying for the parts but I don't have much money..... (3 kids @ Baylor are keeping me at the poverty line) literally.
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Thanks for sacrificing for us. It seems like it takes teamwork like this to make a bootloader unlock happen, although this is my first experience with a locked bootloader
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Correct me if im wrong but don't ERD's get devices to develop for anyways?
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Adam isnt an ERD, but yes ERDs (SRDs now) do get devices.
jcase said:
Adam isnt an ERD, but yes ERDs (SRDs now) do get devices.
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I have seen you post this a few times. I'm asking what should we do @jcase at this point and moving on. If all we can hope from adam is a hardware exploit, I think many people will want to throw themselves to him because he is willing to help. If we were ganna try to get a dev a device, who do you think it should be?
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Brandonrz said:
I have seen you post this a few times. I'm asking what should we do @jcase at this point and moving on. If all we can hope from adam is a hardware exploit, I think many people will want to throw themselves to him because he is willing to help. If we were ganna try to get a dev a device, who do you think it should be?
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I don't think I have posted that before...
I think people should start considering their intentions before purchasing a model, if they want unlocked they need to support the dev versions. It is showing the carriers which products are wanted. If they see a larger number of dev units on their network, they are more likely to give them greater support.
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I don't think I have posted that before...
I think people should start considering their intentions before purchasing a model, if they want unlocked they need to support the dev versions. It is showing the carriers which products are wanted. If they see a larger number of dev units on their network, they are more likely to give them greater support.
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Some people can't pay the 700 and something deductible. And the only way they probable could is buy the note 3 and keep it in the box then to and it on swappa. Then wait until it to get sold, then purchase it from sammy. And 9/10 times it's out of stock.
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Brandonrz said:
Some people can't pay the 700 and something deductible. And the only way they probable could is buy the note 3 and keep it in the box then to and it on swappa. Then wait until it to get sold, then purchase it from sammy. And 9/10 times it's out of stock.
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Rock and a hard place.
jcase said:
I don't think I have posted that before...
I think people should start considering their intentions before purchasing a model, if they want unlocked they need to support the dev versions. It is showing the carriers which products are wanted. If they see a larger number of dev units on their network, they are more likely to give them greater support.
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I totally agree with this; however, I was in the situation where I purchased the retail version before I knew there was going to be a dev version. Unfortunately I was too sick of my older slower phone and I purchased the Note 3 right away. Maybe someone mentioned the dev phone prior to the release or maybe that's a trend, but I unfortunately did not read it or did not know to expect it. From now on I will not buy a device unless it is a dev model. That doesn't help my current situation, so I thank anyone spending time on solving this one. I know it might not ever be solved, but efforts towards that end are appreciated. Thank you @drag&fly for being willing to contribute to the cause.
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Thank you @drag&fly for being willing to contribute to the cause.
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Not a problem at all Sir. I was actually blessed with the funds to fix my note 2...... As soon as I can order the parts and get them I will be able to send my Note 3! Some of you guys here have really helped me out a lot! Anything I can do to return the favor even if indirectly I will.
jcase said:
I don't think I have posted that before...
I think people should start considering their intentions before purchasing a model, if they want unlocked they need to support the dev versions. It is showing the carriers which products are wanted. If they see a larger number of dev units on their network, they are more likely to give them greater support.
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Carriers? Besides Play Edition devices, the only carrier offering development devices is Verizon, and even then, they don't offer them. Motorola and Samsung are attempting to band-aid our market share they don't want to lose to another manufacturer like HTC or Sony. With the exception of AT&T and VZW, everyone else has the freedom to do as they please. I strongly disagree, as a couple thousand developer devices vs. millions of retail devices, they don't care one bit. This whole 'Dev Device' business model is Samsung's attempt at a band-aid Verizon's position on device modification. They should start differentiating corporate devices vs. consumer devices. Verizon caters heavily to the enterprise market, especially government organizations and large corporations, so the need for enterprise security created the bastard child known as Samsung Knox and LG Gate. RIM's fall from it's Blackberry throne really stung. Samsung wanted a piece of the pie. If we want to do something about it, switch carriers, not devices. Leave Verizon and AT&T en masse. I mean Verizon charges for 2GB of data instead of unlimited (was same price for me) because they insist this is what consumers wanted. What a joke. T-Mobile now offers international data for free off your data plan, in addition to acquiring the lower 700Mhz block, which will only help them even more with greater signal penetration (something they were struggling with outside of urban/suburban environments.) It's also not very realistic for people in the United States to adopt to the lower tariff/higher device cost model like Europe has. They've engrained subsidization deeply into the mobile industry, although some are starting to shake loose. Motorola is helping quite a bit. It's a complex issue, but truly Verizon is the enemy, and we should all abandon ship. Oh, and AT&T sucks too.
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Carriers? Besides Play Edition devices, the only carrier offering development devices is Verizon. With the exception of AT&T, everyone else has the freedom to do as they please. I strongly disagree, as a couple thousand developer devices vs. millions of retail devices, they don't care one bit. This whole 'Dev Device' business model is Samsung's attempt at a band-aid Verizon's position on device modification. They should start differentiating corporate devices vs. consumer devices. Verizon caters heavily to the enterprise market, especially government organizations and large corporations. Samsung wanted a piece of the pie. If we want to do something about it, switch carriers, not devices. Leave Verizon and AT&T en masse. I mean Verizon charges for 2GB of data instead of unlimited (was same price for me) because they insist this is what consumers wanted. What a joke. T-Mobile now offers international data for free off your data plan, in addition to acquiring the lower 700Mhz block, which will only help them even more with greater signal penetration (something they were struggling with outside of urban/suburban environments.) It's also not very realistic for people in the United States to adopt to the lower tariff/higher device cost model like Europe has. They've engrained subsidization deeply into the mobile industry, although some are starting to shake loose. Motorola is helping quite a bit. It's a complex issue, but truly Verizon is the enemy, and we should all abandon ship. Oh, and AT&T sucks too.
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AT&T has dev edition devices as well, so does Motorola and HTC. Also Verizon and AT&T are not the only carriers locking devices, DoCoMo does as well.
I did switch, I use AT&T now, and I buy unlockable or dev units.
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AT&T has dev edition devices as well, so does Motorola and HTC. Also Verizon and AT&T are not the only carriers locking devices, DoCoMo does as well.
I did switch, I use AT&T now, and I buy unlockable or dev units.
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The perks of GSM... but you are right, I suppose if you aren't locked in a CDMA market, that's most certainly an option.
I think people are forgetting about what this community is all about. why give up and settle for the dev version so fast?
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As @AdamOutler once said
Why not just buy a developer edition?
GTFO! Not a single person got started developing by buying a developer phone. They started developing because they were unhappy with the features of their device and wanted something better. They wanted something more. This developer phone is a tax on developer innovation. We do not stand for that. We will break the security and we will enable XDA-Developers to do what they do best.
Until security is broken and available for everyone, this device will get updates last, users will be unhappy because there are no additional features and Samsung violates the spirit of Open Source and copyright laws. Take a look at the bottom line of GPL-Violations.org FAQ located here: http://gpl-violations.org/faq/sourcecode-faq.html
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By the way, what happened I thought Adam was ERD. Look here http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...stion-and-answer-session-qa-xda-developer-tv/
Plus AT&T doesn't have Dev edition of N3 and even if it did college student like me wont be able to afford something that was priced outrageously. Personally I think carrier should let customers choose between Regular phone or Dev phone and if you choose dev phone and brick it, then its your responsibility.