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Hi guys,
I'm fairly new to all of this, ive been reading up on flashing and the different roms, rooting android devices etc... i personally still using a symbian i know lol but its all modded and flashed so im not a complete noob...
My girlfriend got a sgs2 few months back, i flashed Lightening for her, she thought it was great with the speed and UI of it all..
Last night i showed what MIUI looks like and so i flashed it for, her spent a while setting it all up, she loved it with the masses of customisations etc...
Now i KNOW kies is an utter piece of crap ave had a numerous problems with it and her phone before but not like this...
Basically after flashing MIUI the phone would just not connect to Kies at all, the only thing it would do was come up as a removable drive of which i could not access half the time (told me the disk was empty) - the phone would only give me the option to mount/unmount the SD card NOT the usual "transfer data to pc" so i did all the usual troubleshooting tasks: reboot phone and pc, reinstall drivers, reinstall kies to no avail.
the ONLY reason i need to reconnect to kies is to get all her contacts msgs gallery etc back
I cleared all data and caches when flashing as i know you should when flashing a new rom.. ive only flashed lightening v5 and v6.1 but had no problems whatsoever and i was wondering if there is a known problem/solution to this?
apologies for the long post just wanted to give as much info as possible also she DOESNT have an sd card as of yet other wise i would have just used a 3rd part backup manager to backup/restore from SD card...
i did wonder (AFTER restoring back to Lightening rom backup) would it be possible to 'advanced restore' JUST the 'data' from the recovery menu whilst runnning the MIUI rom or would that just be a complete mess?
Thanks for any help you guys have would be greatly appreciated
**EDIT** - Sorry if this is in the wrong section i couldnt find anything related or a suitable thread after searching quite a bit
As far as im aware kies only recognise stock firmware. Also you could still use the third party apps and save it to the internal storage of the phone no need for external sd card, as you dont need to wipe internal storage when flashing new ROM.
Did you make a backup of the lightening ROM? If so restore it and backup contacts/messages using a third party app and re-flash then restore.
Ricey
Hey Ricey thanks for the reply mate,
Ahh right ok then, i assumed that it would work with all custom roms as it worked fine with Lightening but now i think i know its because lightening is a stock firmware thats been rooted and had some tweaks whereas MIUI is actually custom.
I wasnt aware that it doesnt wipe internal storage when doing a wipe data+cache, until last night when we noticed that all her photos and apks were still on the phone just not apps lol...
I'm assuming that if i use a 3rd party app to backup contacts and msgs etc they WONT be wiped along with all of the other data for the backup app.
1 last question: any recommendations on a backup program from the market? i keep reading about titanium backup but not sure if this performs the task i want it to.
Thanks
**EDIT** sorry forgot to answer your question - yes i did backup the lightening rom and restored it after spending nearly 2 hours trying to find a solution to this problem
Sms backup+ will backup sms to your gmail account, and restore between roms.
Sync contacts to your google account.
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mindyabiznis said:
Hey Ricey thanks for the reply mate,
Ahh right ok then, i assumed that it would work with all custom roms as it worked fine with Lightening but now i think i know its because lightening is a stock firmware thats been rooted and had some tweaks whereas MIUI is actually custom.
I wasnt aware that it doesnt wipe internal storage when doing a wipe data+cache, until last night when we noticed that all her photos and apks were still on the phone just not apps lol...
I'm assuming that if i use a 3rd party app to backup contacts and msgs etc they WONT be wiped along with all of the other data for the backup app.
1 last question: any recommendations on a backup program from the market? i keep reading about titanium backup but not sure if this performs the task i want it to.
Thanks
**EDIT** sorry forgot to answer your question - yes i did backup the lightening rom and restored it after spending nearly 2 hours trying to find a solution to this problem
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They will still get wiped its just gives you a backup to restore once reflashed. To backup contacts just use the stock contacts app, and export to SD. When re-flashing just import from SD using the same method. As for Messages use sms backup & restore off the market by ritesh sahu. The app is pretty self explanatory.
thanks for your input guys, in the end i just used the MyBackup app from the market and i got it all flashed and working correctly..
Now to get customising
It happened today morning, but i didn't change anything since last night, didn't install any apps or updates
At first i manage to enter in the Contacts app, but i couldn't save a new contact, i did a system reboot and after that all three apps were gone :O
now i'm using GO Contacts, but i would really like to get the stock apps back
Rooted (CF-Kernel) KI4 2.3.4
any thoughts guys?
also, in the GO Contacts app i'm unable to save a new contact
maranello69 said:
It happened today morning, but i didn't change anything since last night, didn't install any apps or updates
At first i manage to enter in the Contacts app, but i couldn't save a new contact, i did a system reboot and after that all three apps were gone :O
now i'm using GO Contacts, but i would really like to get the stock apps back
Rooted (CF-Kernel) KI4 2.3.4
any thoughts guys?
also, in the GO Contacts app i'm unable to save a new contact
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Hmm ... really strange.
Maybe a problem with your Google account.
But disappearing system apps ... ?!
If you have got a recent system backup, then recover it.
If not, I recommend to re-install a stock ROM (flashing with Odin).
Do a hard reset after flashing.
Root your phone (e.g. flashing CF-Root kernel).
This should bring back the missing system apps.
Good luck !
Whit a hard reset, you mean a factory reset, right?
And no, no backups
there is no way to reinstall those apps?
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maranello69 said:
Whit a hard reset, you mean a factory reset, right?
And no, no backups
there is no way to reinstall those apps?
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Hard reset: Dial *2767*3855# into your phone.
This will wipe internal SD card!
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Please do a full system backup in future!
I backup my apps with Titanium Backup (free app from the Market) and make a system backup with CWM Manager app (which is included in my CF-Root kernel).
i'll be sure to do that next time, i wanted to do a Nandroid backup after rooting, but i kept delaying it... until it was too late
i guess i can backup my user apps now with Titanium, or should i just start from blank with a stock rom?
flashing the stock rom will also bring back the stock kernel?
maranello69 said:
i'll be sure to do that next time, i wanted to do a Nandroid backup after rooting, but i kept delaying it... until it was too late
i guess i can backup my user apps now with Titanium, or should i just start from blank with a stock rom?
flashing the stock rom will also bring back the stock kernel?
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Yes, the ROM contains kernel, modem and CSC.
You can restore all user apps you have saved with Titanium Backup.
Do not restore any system app.
Just to be safe.
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a nice twist of things today, i have read some info regarding this issue on the webz and i decided to uninstall facebook and google+... and what do you know, my apps r back and working perfectly
but anyway, i'll proceed with the stock rom flash, just to be on the safe side
Greetings i purchased Galaxy S2 about a week ago, and since then i m trying to learn more about the device, but mostly the software.
Device is ROOTED and currently runs Sensation v3.0 ( ICS )
Firstly, i am not able to find a way to access the external SD card of my phone through a mobile file manager.I can only see the internal storage memory.
Also, i would like to know, which is the best way, to backup my current screen setup, with all icons and widgets, so i can easily try new ROMs.
TheoKondak said:
Greetings i purchased Galaxy S2 about a week ago, and since then i m trying to learn more about the device, but mostly the software.
Device is ROOTED and currently runs Sensation v3.0 ( ICS )
Firstly, i am not able to find a way to access the external SD card of my phone through a mobile file manager.I can only see the internal storage memory.
Also, i would like to know, which is the best way, to backup my current screen setup, with all icons and widgets, so i can easily try new ROMs.
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Backup in recovery mate. Always the easiest option. Then once you are backed up you can try different roms. If you do not like the rom you flashed just restore back. Also if you want to backup only your applications use Titanium Backup Pro from market. You got to spend a few bucks but worth having it. For me it is a must have application
Well the recovery backup, or the Titanium, is not what i am after.Basically what i am asking, is to backup the current folders (app shortcut folders in desktop) and to be able to restore them again in my new ROM, so i don't have to do all the grinding again on the new ROM.
TheoKondak said:
Well the recovery backup, or the Titanium, is not what i am after.Basically what i am asking, is to backup the current folders (app shortcut folders in desktop) and to be able to restore them again in my new ROM, so i don't have to do all the grinding again on the new ROM.
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you can still do that with TB. Just when you are restoring your apps with TB restore apps+data and you will have your setup that you are using now.
i have done that before when i was using Go Launcher. Restored my applications with TB and that was apps+data and then setup i had previously was back on my new rom
you can check also that some launchers have the option where you can backup your current setup. check that out in the options settings for the launcher
Well you got a good point there, since launchers take care of this kind of data.I guess, i am gonna try it out right now to see if it really works like that.
thanks
TheoKondak said:
Well you got a good point there, since launchers take care of this kind of data.I guess, i am gonna try it out right now to see if it really works like that.
thanks
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no problem file mou
Instal CWM boot into recovery and do a nandroid backup.
Hello everybody,
I'm New to these forums and i'm a TOTAL noob. About a week ago
I wanted excitedly to flash CyanogenMod 10 and succeeded.
I made a Nandroid backup to my internal SD card and copied it into my
computer. Now I have tried via CWM recovery to restore my
personal files, for example apps, contacts, messages, etc. and,
for some reason, it FAILS to recover them. And, not only that,
but I've started to hate CM10 also. It stinks. It has got only a small
part of things compared to Touchwis. I desperately tried to restore it
and found out something about "flashing a stock rom and doing a full wipe".
I'm starting to freak out because all my apps and contacts are
so close but i can't access them!!! And the good ol' Touchwis.
I just can't get it back. I regret tuhat I ever installed
the CyanogenMod. I have a Samsung Galaxy S 3
GT-i9300 phone. Please, van you help me?
Serveri said:
Hello everybody,
I'm New to these forums and i'm a TOTAL noob. About a week ago
I wanted excitedly to flash CyanogenMod 10 and succeeded.
I made a Nandroid backup to my internal SD card and copied it into my
computer. Now I have tried via CWM recovery to restore my
personal files, for example apps, contacts, messages, etc. and,
for some reason, it FAILS to recover them. And, not only that,
but I've started to hate CM10 also. It stinks. It has got only a small
part of things compared to Touchwis. I desperately tried to restore it
and found out something about "flashing a stock rom and doing a full wipe".
I'm starting to freak out because all my apps and contacts are
so close but i can't access them!!! And the good ol' Touchwis.
I just can't get it back. I regret tuhat I ever installed
the CyanogenMod. I have a Samsung Galaxy S 3
GT-i9300 phone. Please, van you help me?
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1)Your contacts should have been synced with your Gmail account. Sync Gmail and it should work.
2) you should have done a titanium backup for the apps! In any case just re download all the apps from the app store. Play store saves which apps you have downloaded since the first one.
3) should have used sms backup and restore for the messages. What format are the messages in?
4) as for stock, download the stock firmware from sammobile.com for your specific device. Copy it to internal sd. Wipe/factory reset. Cwm recovery it, wipe there if need be, clear cache and flash the zip for official.
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Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium would be used when you want to backup all of your apps+data, Twrp would be used when you want to back up EVERYTHING apps, messages, pics(on internal sd), basically everything lol. As for verizon sending a ota, I think it's highly unlikely that they can push a ota to our phones now I think the bootloader unlocking and rooting broke all of that. Especially if you run a custom Rom.
Sent from my rooted, and unlocked Vzw note 2 running beans Rom! U mad?
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium is backing up apps. So lets say you use CleanROM and you want to flash to a newer version cleanly. Use titanium to back up the apps and you will be able to restore them easily on the new rom.
Backing up via TWRP basically means you are backing up EVERYTHING in the rom. So lets use the previous example, uograding from one rom to another. You do a twrp back up and begin to flash the new rom. If anything screws up, you could just restore the twrp back up and everything would go back to normal, back exactly to how your phone was when you made the backup.
Edit: basically a back up in recovery is creating a safe point to come back to if anything goes wrong EVER with your device. There are things that this typenof back up cannot undo however.
Titanium is for apps and that's it. It helps free up space as well as making backups for apps incase on of your apps screws up.
EDIT 2: next time post this type of thing in Q&A and not in general
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Titanium Backup - Used to back up all of your apps and their data
TWRP - Used to back up the ENTIRE system. Meaning, if anything goes wrong, you can restore a past "save" of your system before the problem.
You can think of it as Titanium Backup would be like copying a MS Word document onto a flash drive and TWRP would be like taking a copy of your entire hard drive.
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium backup: for backing up apks and their datas, mms and calling history, bookmarks, alarm and wifi settings....i think that's about it. Because your apks keep updating every few days, you should make this backup right before you flash a new rom. Once you retrieve, you don't have to keep this too long.
TWRP backup(aka nandroid): this is just like a saved point when you play a video game. sometimes when you download something, it can alternate other settings and create a mess.....which then may cause your rom to malfunction. At this time, you can flash your nandroid.....it dumps every saved datas, cache, etc etc so that you can go back to your saved point.
Titanium back up- is a app that backs up applications and their data...also has the ability to freeze system apps and create back up .zips of the devices applications.
TWRP back up- is a custom recovery that allows the user to create a back up image... that image will restore the boot image, rom, kernel, data, and cache back to the point of when the back up was created.
It used to be that restoring titanium data from one rom to another was bad. Is this still a recommended no no?
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First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
JRunner01 said:
First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
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yes you can use titanium to back up your apps and restore them on a custom rom...just restore the apps without data. you have the rest correct.
I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
pool_shark said:
I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
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great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
droidstyle said:
great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
pool_shark said:
I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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I agree that folks get into trouble because of what you posted in your last sentence. This is exactly why I do not recommend it because a new user 99% of the time wont know that. So I simply do not suggest it...now somebody more experienced like yourself is a different story.
pool_shark said:
I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
adrynalyne said:
Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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It has yet to happen to me.
The only time it came close was with better terminal emulator pro. I restored using titanium and it refused to work. Downloaded it from the play store, it worked fine. Then restored over that using titanium and it worked fine.
Anyone have any advice on creating the .zip? Is it even a possibility in TWRP? I used CWR for the longest and am a n00b with TWP. There are only 2 options when creating the update.zip: Edify (Android 1.6+, ClockworkMod 3+) and Amend (Android 1.5, ClockworkMod 2). So which is needed to flash in TWRP?
I'm not interested in creating a .zip of all my apps, just a .zip I can flash in recovery after clean wipe/flashing a new ROM. TIA guys
So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
airbus318 said:
So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
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It only gets /system, /data, and kernel if you don't change the options. It's not getting everything on SD card or internal storage unless you specify that option.