The past few times I've done a full titanium backup (All apps and system data), it will reboot immediately after finishing. It has done it on 2 different ROMs (Flex and Mean). Anyone having this issue? Did I miss the change log for TB and this is now supposed to happen?
You should avoid restoring system data, especially across different roms. Only user apps/data.
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You should avoid restoring system data, especially across different roms. Only user apps/data.
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Thank you - yes, I typically do not restore any system data, but I do back it up just in case and also - I am a pack-rat.
Just to clarify - I am getting the reboot after the backing up of apps/data - not on the restore.
Ah, my mistake. Did you try un installing and then reinstalling titanium, then run the backup again. Or maybe creating a new backup folder?
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Ah, my mistake. Did you try un installing and then reinstalling titanium, then run the backup again. Or maybe creating a new backup folder?
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Titanium is reinstalled whenever I flash a new Rom, so at least one of these instances it should have been a fresh install. I have not done anything with the backup folder, I like that idea. I think I'll dump all by backups and create them all again. Thanks for the idea.
Yea, I've had to do that before, it sucks, but sometimes things get corrupted.
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Update: one backup in particular was causing it to bring the while phone down. It was the wifi access points saved by titanium.
I noticed this was the last thing it was backing up before the reboot, and also ran the verify backups batch run, which turned up the bad backup.
Deleting that one particular backup did not make a difference. Had to manually go into the wifi settings and "forget" all the networks I don't use daily, and then it would make the backup just fine without crashing.
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Nice, glad you figured it out
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Searched high and low and couldn't find this thread, so figured out essentially the same solution on my own after couple hours of running batch backups and reboots. Backing up the xml version of WiFi Access Points and only if WiFi was actually on was the culprit, but the reboot usually happened 1-5 apps after it, so it took me a while to pinpoint the exact cause.
Figured I would just uncheck it every time I run a full batch backup, but your solution of forgetting unused APs in WiFi settings did the trick for me. It must have been some public AP with a weird name that Titanium didn't like. Thanks again.
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Update: one backup in particular was causing it to bring the while phone down. It was the wifi access points saved by titanium.
I noticed this was the last thing it was backing up before the reboot, and also ran the verify backups batch run, which turned up the bad backup.
Deleting that one particular backup did not make a difference. Had to manually go into the wifi settings and "forget" all the networks I don't use daily, and then it would make the backup just fine without crashing.
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Lew182 said:
Update: one backup in particular was causing it to bring the while phone down. It was the wifi access points saved by titanium.
I noticed this was the last thing it was backing up before the reboot, and also ran the verify backups batch run, which turned up the bad backup.
Deleting that one particular backup did not make a difference. Had to manually go into the wifi settings and "forget" all the networks I don't use daily, and then it would make the backup just fine without crashing.
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BIG thanks for figuring this out - was having the same problem with HTC One S, and it was driving me mad - I have a PIN on my SIM card, so every time it backed up during the night, the phone sat at the PIN entry until I entered it in the morning...meaning my phone was "offline" for a few hours!
In my case, I found it was actually a duplicate SSID that seemed to cause the problems - not sure how it got in there, but was probably when migrating backups from one phone to another. The duplicate only seemed to cause problems for the XML backup - deleted it, and all is well!
Stephen...
I've had this problem for awhile now myself, have written to Titanium Backup support twice now and they still haven't responded. How Rude! Especially since I'm a paid customer and I told them this was causing my backups to fail.
Like y'all I was able to determine it was the XML version of Wi-Fi Access Points that was causing the crash, but since there's no easy way to exclude just a single file, I had to create a FILTER I named "Not Excluded" and added everything except the Wi-Fi XML file to it. I then used that Filter in the scheduled Backup job. The only problem with this method is I have to remember to manually check for new items I've installed and manually add them to that filter group myself or they won't get backed up.
I can't believe they won't address this issue for us, particularly when their release notes say they did so for another model phone.
Oh and unfortunately, I did try the suggestion here about removing/forgetting the open Wi-Fi networks saved in my list but that didn't help. It still crashed on that one file.
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I've had this problem for awhile now myself, have written to Titanium Backup support twice now and they still haven't responded. How Rude! Especially since I'm a paid customer and I told them this was causing my backups to fail.
Like y'all I was able to determine it was the XML version of Wi-Fi Access Points that was causing the crash, but since there's no easy way to exclude just a single file, I had to create a FILTER I named "Not Excluded" and added everything except the Wi-Fi XML file to it. I then used that Filter in the scheduled Backup job. The only problem with this method is I have to remember to manually check for new items I've installed and manually add them to that filter group myself or they won't get backed up.
I can't believe they won't address this issue for us, particularly when their release notes say they did so for another model phone.
Oh and unfortunately, I did try the suggestion here about removing/forgetting the open Wi-Fi networks saved in my list but that didn't help. It still crashed on that one file.
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Hey guys, I just ran into this problem and I figured out how to workaround it without having to add new apps when needed. Instead of creating a filter that includes the XML WiFI Access Points, I excluded it. After I created label, I think it wasn't until I backed out, came back in, then (maybe) created filter did I see the invert option in regards to the label. So I checked it and the label, then I noticed XML WiFi's weren't even listed in main list as I had it filtered (excluded), then I selected the filter (didn't try label) in the scheduled task, then voila! It worked! I just wanted to share so anyone with this problem can utilize this solution.:good:
This solution actually worked for me on my Galaxy note 2. I Could not figure out why my phone would reboot after running TB every night. I deleted both WiFi entries and ran the backup with no reboot. Thanks
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With updates of ROMs being released so quickly, and not wanting to update rather than flash the full ROM, I'm going to start backing up using Titanium Backup.
I am quite happy to backup absolutely everything, but am cautious about restoring things like system settings. Ideally what I would like is to be able to restore all the apps that I had before, their data, and possibly the layout of my homescreens.
How would I do this?
Is there anything I should probably not restore that could mess things up?
Thanks a lot for any replies.
You can backup all apps and data and then restore them later, without worrying about side-effects. This backup will include your launcher and therefore screen layouts, but will not include widgets. You'll need to add them again manually after you restore (it's a permission thing - nothing other that your is allowed to put widgets on your home screens).
System settings is a different story. If you're going from one ROM to another, or changing FW, there could be conflicts and it could cause problems. I tend to always have a backup and only restore system settings if I need to factory reset for some reason.
If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend paying for the pro version, as it can become very boring having to click a couple of buttons for every app you want to restore. The pro version does all apps without the need for interaction.
The easiest way is this: go into titanium backup and press the menu bitten on your phone. Then press batch. Then look for something that says backup all user apps. Click the bitten next to that that says run. Then check 'backup user apps + data' and then uncheck any apps you don't want backed up, and then click run on the bottom. This will backup all your downloaded apps and data, like saved games, etc. You can also do the same things for system apps, but I can't guarantee that they will all work. Hope this helps
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If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend paying for the pro version, as it can become very boring having to click a couple of buttons for every app you want to restore. The pro version does all apps without the need for interaction.
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If you click batch all your apps are selected so you can backup all your apps with 1 clicks, even with the unpaid version. However with the paid version you can set up scheduled backups so it will backup automatically every week, or whenever you set it to
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If you click batch all your apps are selected so you can backup all your apps with 1 clicks, even with the unpaid version. However with the paid version you can set up scheduled backups so it will backup automatically every week, or whenever you set it to
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I was talking about restoring, not backing up. Have you ever restored 200 apps with the unpaid version? It's VERY boring
johncmolyneux said:
You can backup all apps and data and then restore them later, without worrying about side-effects. This backup will include your launcher and therefore screen layouts, but will not include widgets. You'll need to add them again manually after you restore (it's a permission thing - nothing other that your is allowed to put widgets on your home screens).
System settings is a different story. If you're going from one ROM to another, or changing FW, there could be conflicts and it could cause problems. I tend to always have a backup and only restore system settings if I need to factory reset for some reason.
If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend paying for the pro version, as it can become very boring having to click a couple of buttons for every app you want to restore. The pro version does all apps without the need for interaction.
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Thanks XD) but I'm talking more about the restore aspect.
@johncmolyneux
Thanks for your help. So I'm thinking the process will be along the lines of:
backup/restore > batch > backup all user apps
then
batch > restore missing apps with data > selecting app+ data
I will almost certainly buy the pro version of this app, as I'll be using it a lot.
One thing I am particularly anal about is restoring my vast collection of texts going back about 3 years - will restoring the GoSMS app and its data include all these. Probably obvious but I thought I'd ask just to make sure.
Also, I keep getting a message saying that I should check usb debugging as it might cause problems. What's that all about?
Thanks again.
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Thanks XD) but I'm talking more about the restore aspect.
@johncmolyneux
Thanks for your help. So I'm thinking the process will be along the lines of:
backup/restore > batch > backup all user apps
then
batch > restore missing apps with data > selecting app+ data
I will almost certainly buy the pro version of this app, as I'll be using it a lot.
One thing I am particularly anal about is restoring my vast collection of texts going back about 3 years - will restoring the GoSMS app and its data include all these. Probably obvious but I thought I'd ask just to make sure.
Also, I keep getting a message saying that I should check usb debugging as it might cause problems. What's that all about?
Thanks again.
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That's the process mate - you've got it.
Titanium Backup requires that you have USB debugging enabled, which you get to via Settings, Applications, Development.
As for backing up and restoring text messages, I simply could not recommend any higher an application called SMS Backup+ (free in the Market). It creates a folder in your Gmail account and automatically uploads all text messages to that folder. You can do a restore whenever you like. It's seamless and works perfectly. If you want to keep SMS then look no further! I've gone over easily 30 ROM flashes with it, and now a new phone, and have never lost a single message.
It also means, of course, that you can access you SMS from any browser, which is nice (Can't send from gmail though.)
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That's the process mate - you've got it.
Titanium Backup requires that you have USB debugging enabled, which you get to via Settings, Applications, Development.
As for backing up and restoring text messages, I simply could not recommend any higher an application called SMS Backup+ (free in the Market). It creates a folder in your Gmail account and automatically uploads all text messages to that folder. You can do a restore whenever you like. It's seamless and works perfectly. If you want to keep SMS then look no further! I've gone over easily 30 ROM flashes with it, and now a new phone, and have never lost a single message.
It also means, of course, that you can access you SMS from any browser, which is nice (Can't send from gmail though.)
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Ok, last question. Can I just have usb debugging enabled at the time that I backup and at the time that I restore. I prefer to not have it checked generally - lots of annoying pop up messages on my PC at work etc...
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Ok, last question. Can I just have usb debugging enabled at the time that I backup and at the time that I restore. I prefer to not have it checked generally - lots of annoying pop up messages on my PC at work etc...
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Long time since I've clicked "thanks" instead of quote! Have a thanks
Yes mate - you can just turn it on and off for Titanium.
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Long time since I've clicked "thanks" instead of quote! Have a thanks
Yes mate - you can just turn it on and off for Titanium.
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Top man. Thanks again.
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Top man. Thanks again.
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No problem mate. Enjoy
Ok so one last question. I understand that Titanium Backup will save the data for my third party launcher, so will preserver all the homescreen arrangments. But if I use TouchWiz, would that count as a system and therefore not preserved if I only backed up and restored user apps and data?
Cheers.
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Ok so one last question. I understand that Titanium Backup will save the data for my third party launcher, so will preserver all the homescreen arrangments. But if I use TouchWiz, would that count as a system and therefore not preserved if I only backed up and restored user apps and data?
Cheers.
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You might be able to backup and restore the data for touchwizz, not tried.
As far as system data, if the item is green in titanium is ok to restore, if its red, beware.
AFAIK, TouchWiz is just another launcher, so you should be okay to restore, but pay attention to the item colour, as mentioned by veyka.
Ok thanks a lot. Man of many questions at the moment, quite new to Android.
So last one...
When I set up the OS from scratch after a flash, when I get the option to either backup/restore to my Google account, what actually gets backed up then?
Cheers.
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Ok thanks a lot. Man of many questions at the moment, quite new to Android.
So last one...
When I set up the OS from scratch after a flash, when I get the option to either backup/restore to my Google account, what actually gets backed up then?
Cheers.
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I'm not sure about this one as I've seen different things happen. Sometimes, I've had apps installed again after a new ROM flash, but other times that hasn't happened. I've also had inconsistent results with restoring wifi settings. The only thing I generally rely on Google to store is my contacts. Other than that, I use Titanium for everything, just to be sure.
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I'm not sure about this one as I've seen different things happen. Sometimes, I've had apps installed again after a new ROM flash, but other times that hasn't happened. I've also had inconsistent results with restoring wifi settings. The only thing I generally rely on Google to store is my contacts. Other than that, I use Titanium for everything, just to be sure.
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Ok, thanks.
Hi
I flashed the ParanoidAndroid 2.55cm (4.1.2):
I have Apex launcher pro and Titanium Backup ★ root pro.I made a TB backup in cm9 . I restored all of apps and data and it went well on ParanoidAndroid 2.55cm (4.1.2):. But
I would like to know how to restore all the widgets on ParanoidAndroid 2.55cm with Apex launcher pro home screens ?
I'm sure it's been discussed, but search gives too many results to find what I'm looking for, and it seems that the procedure is phone- specific.
I've been a long time CleanROM user, finally decided to upgrade to ICS based ROM.
I did upgrade without wiping data and Sense didn't work at all. After wiping and reinstall everything worked, but of course all m data was gone. I restored "all system data" from backup, and it killed Sense again.
So, what subset of the system data can I safely restore? I need things like SMS and call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings, user account info entered in apps and so on.
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I'm sure it's been discussed, but search gives too many results to find what I'm looking for, and it seems that the procedure is phone- specific.
I've been a long time CleanROM user, finally decided to upgrade to ICS based ROM.
I did upgrade without wiping data and Sense didn't work at all. After wiping and reinstall everything worked, but of course all m data was gone. I restored "all system data" from backup, and it killed Sense again.
So, what subset of the system data can I safely restore? I need things like SMS and call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings, user account info entered in apps and so on.
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Restoring SMS, call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings are all fine. I have found, as you did, when you restore all data it really buggers things up.
I use SMS Backup&Restore from the Play store. Works great the several years I have been flashing ROM's.
I'm looking at the pre-upgrade backup- it has 1164 files. Which ones should I include or exclude from restoring?
I think I found SMSes in com.htc.messagescs, but I can't search in each archive file.
Yea you shouldn't do an "all data restore" when switching roms, especially when going from GB to ICS. You should ONLY restore data from apps, never restore system/settings data. Since roms are made differently (again, especially when going from GB to ICS) restoring settings/system data will mess up the rom. So just restore data from the apps you want, backup/restore SMS with SMS Backup and Restore, and then just manually change your settings and set-up your home screens the way you want. It takes an extra few minutes, but it will save you the hassle of things not working how they should.
SMS and MMS are stored in [SMS/MMS/APN]Dialer Storage.
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User account info within apps can usually be restored with restoring user data apps only. You will hardly ever restore "system apps". They are usually unique to the individual ROM, in my experience.
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Yea you shouldn't do an "all data restore" when switching roms, especially when going from GB to ICS. You should ONLY restore data from apps, never restore system/settings data. Since roms are made differently (again, especially when going from GB to ICS) restoring settings/system data will mess up the rom. So just restore data from the apps you want, backup/restore SMS with SMS Backup and Restore, and then just manually change your settings and set-up your home screens the way you want. It takes an extra few minutes, but it will save you the hassle of things not working how they should.
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So, why do I need Titanium Backup, if I have to use a separate app to restore SMS? What do I do about the call logs? Are they part of the system or user app dataset?
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So, why do I need Titanium Backup, if I have to use a separate app to restore SMS? What do I do about the call logs? Are they part of the system or user app dataset?
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The only thing I use TB for is to backup/restore apps and their data.
Call logs are located in "[CONTACTS/CALLS] Contacts Storage". Not sure if it is system data or user data set.
Also, here is a good How-to on backing up SMS/MMS and Call logs. Have not had the chance to try it out myself. LINK
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So, why do I need Titanium Backup, if I have to use a separate app to restore SMS? What do I do about the call logs? Are they part of the system or user app dataset?
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You CAN use it to restore sms, however that usually will also restore call history etc, which again, can cause you problems, especially when going from GB to ICS.
Thanks everyone.
I restored GB from nandroid and made 2 backups in different directories. One for user apps+ data, another one for system data. Wiped, installed an ICS ROM. Restored apps+data from the first backup. The results were mixed.Some apps restored with their settings intact, other ones lost all customization and account info.
Next I switched to the system backup and restored only data files (green in TB). Not all of them, only ones with the names that made sense. It gave me SMS and call logs, BT pairings, FB account. The list of WiFI APs was restored, but yheir keys passwords were not. None of the widgets came back. I had pretty time consuming setups with Beautiful Widgets and Circle Launcher and was hoping to continue using it.
It seems that there is no easy way to switch ROMs without some butt hurt.
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Thanks everyone.
I restored GB from nandroid and made 2 backups in different directories. One for user apps+ data, another one for system data. Wiped, installed an ICS ROM. Restored apps+data from the first backup. The results were mixed.Some apps restored with their settings intact, other ones lost all customization and account info.
Next I switched to the system backup and restored only data files (green in TB). Not all of them, only ones with the names that made sense. It gave me SMS and call logs, BT pairings, FB account. The list of WiFI APs was restored, but yheir keys passwords were not. None of the widgets came back. I had pretty time consuming setups with Beautiful Widgets and Circle Launcher and was hoping to continue using it.
It seems that there is no easy way to switch ROMs without some butt hurt.
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Remember you ate switching base, not just the ROM. So things will be a lot different and so much so that it will probably bork things up.
Also my backup pro is a great tool! Try out the free version in the market.
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Also my backup pro is a great tool! Try out the free version in the market.
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Why do you think it is better than TB?
Strange, it looks like some people here change ROMs on a daily basis, and I thought that the whole process of transferring the maximum possible amount of settings has been well researched and documented by now.
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Why do you think it is better than TB?
Strange, it looks like some people here change ROMs on a daily basis, and I thought that the whole process of transferring the maximum possible amount of settings has been well researched and documented by now.
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Not necessarily better I just prefer the ui more. Each has their own pros and cons. Tommytomatoe turned me onto it back in the OG days and I've never looked back. (that guy is a genius) I got MBP on sale for 2.99 and I think it's well worth it. I still use TB, just not as much...
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I'm sure it's been discussed, but search gives too many results to find what I'm looking for, and it seems that the procedure is phone- specific.
I've been a long time CleanROM user, finally decided to upgrade to ICS based ROM.
I did upgrade without wiping data and Sense didn't work at all. After wiping and reinstall everything worked, but of course all m data was gone. I restored "all system data" from backup, and it killed Sense again.
So, what subset of the system data can I safely restore? I need things like SMS and call logs, bluetooth and wifi pairings, user account info entered in apps and so on.
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Sometimes crossing over leads to problems, had that trouble also going from GB to ICS!
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I I was wondering if there are any programs where I could do GREAT backups.
Mainly 1 for phonebook, so that I can safely copy all my contacts and modify them from the computer. I have like 300 numbers but want to erase 200 of them while still having them on computer if I need them. I can't find a reliable app to do this so am wondering if anyone has any experiences in it.
The 2nd backup I'm looking for is an APP one. It doesn't hve to necessarily backup the apps, but at least be able to queue all of them I want RE-installed and download them all from the google play store or something. I want to get into flashing ROMS, but I have like 7 pages of apps already that I don't want to lose, as I'm still sorting through trying to find the ones that work best for me so I can remove all the extras.
First off, I think these could've been answered by searching, so please do that in the future.
If your contacts are stored as Google contacts (as they should be), you can edit them from GMail. On the top left corner of the page, there is a menu that says "GMail." Click it and select "Contacts." I've found this to be the easiest way. It'll also always backup your contacts, and you can restore old versions of your contact list if you need to do so. (Since you talk about wanting to delete them from the phone, but keep a record of them, if you delete them from GMail and remember the date when you had them all in there, you can always restore it back to that date and they'll all be back.)
Also, from the People app, you can go to Menu -> Manage Contacts, and export the data.
Regarding backing up apps, this is the main reason I don't think you've done any research at all. There's a very-well-talked-about app called Titanium Backup that will backup and restore every app on your phone. You have to buy the key for it to restore all of them without your involvement--the free version requires you to give permissions to install each app.
First off, I did search prior to asking the question and could not find what I was looking for. There is no need to be rude, as searching was obviously the first step anyone would or at least SHOULD take before asking such a question.
As for your replies, I have chosen sync in my contacts, but they will not show up in Google for some reason. I've tried tons of ways, and it shows like it is syncing, but when I check... nothing there. I don't know if something is wrong in my settings or what, but I've tried many times... it just won't work for me for some reason. Maybe it's because I have 6 google accounts attached to phone, and even though I'm only syncing 1, it is mixing them up or something.
And I already have Titanium Backup, it keeps crashing on my phone for some reason, which is why I was looking for an alternative. I have over 300 apps on my phone right now. I know that's horrid, but I downloaded a ton of them for the same things so I can test them and find the ones I liked best, in which I plan to mark them all, re-flash the phone with whatever ROM (later once full rooting with S-off and everything has been tested more thoroughly), and only install those apps I liked, which should bring it down to maybe 100 apps or so.
I do understand I might SEEM like I didn't search, but trust me... I did.
Anyways, I thank you for your response (both the neg and the pos), and your time was greatly appreciated. I am about to toy with my settings and see if something is blocking the sync or something. I didn't know you could export from the people app though, so thanks for that especially.
UPDATE:
Man, thanks! That export feature is NICE! going to see how easy it is to modify it shortly, hopefully it's readable in Excel.
Regarding Titanium Backup, you are rooted and have granted Titanium Backup superuser permissions, correct?
Yes, I used that 1 click .bat file (from the first method that was shown). I think my superuser app was corrupt, so I re-downloaded it and it's working fine now. Thank you.
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Yes, I used that 1 click .bat file (from the first method that was shown). I think my superuser app was corrupt, so I re-downloaded it and it's working fine now. Thank you.
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I ran into an issue with TB when I tried restoring from my OG EVO. I am rooted in the EVOLTE but not running a custom ROM. the ROM I was running was deodexed. Stock EVOLTE is not so I was unsuccessful in my restore. I bought mybackup pro and WA able to restore SMS and .MMS this way. Not sure I'd you are having the same issues or not though
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I agree, all contacts should be on google...then theres no worry about backups (ive had 3 android phones and a tablet and they all auto sync the contacts instantly).
Editing them on the computer is a breeze, the duplicate find/merge feature is simple and works very well.
What exactly are you all doing to make them sync though?
I went to Accounts & Sync
> selected the one GMAIL that I want the numbers synced to and hit sync now, but it doesn't do anything.
I flashed a new ROM this morning. I usually only back up user apps and data, but this time I backed up all user data and system data. Something towards 300 items to be backed up.
I have done a restore like this before and TB has usually said something like 'the android device id is not the same as previously, would you like to restore the old id?" but it hasn't asked me that in a while now.
I restored everything. It kept my txts, my widget layout, and restored all my accounts and sync, apparently. Most impressive is that it kept the info for bluetooth and is still paired with my car! I haven't used it much to this full extent, as I said.
My question is, after flashing a new ROM, does restoring like this cause the ROM to get messy, as opposed to going in and downloading and setting up the phone manually? It kinda concerns me that TB doesnt ask everytime if I want to revert to the previous android device id. Maybe that has something to do with me only flashing the same ROM (but different versions of) instead of different ROMs from different devs...?
Anyone have any suggestions? I Just want to be sure I'm using TB right? >_>?
You generally should not be restoring system data. It can cause more problems than its worth with some roms
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I restore system info sometimes, but ONLY a few things.
WiFi access points
Settings/Bluetooth
Contacts/calls (sometimes... this one I think puts back MMS stuff which is why I do it)
Email Account Settings
Accounts
Application Widgets
I NEVER restore any other system info other than that. I DO restore my previous ID though, as I believe it works with your registration keys for apps you actually paid for, etc. I know some games, apps weren't working properly until I restored it.
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I restore system info sometimes, but ONLY a few things.
WiFi access points
Settings/Bluetooth
Contacts/calls (sometimes... this one I think puts back MMS stuff which is why I do it)
Email Account Settings
Accounts
Application Widgets
I NEVER restore any other system info other than that. I DO restore my previous ID though, as I believe it works with your registration keys for apps you actually paid for, etc. I know some games, apps weren't working properly until I restored it.
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Good advice.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
So I've done an extensive search on Google (and this forum) without any reliable answers. My issue is that after flashing a new rom (after wiping data/factory reset) Spotify will automatically delete my offline playlist. Using Titanium or any other backup solution WILL not work with spotify. After restoring it will restore default settings of the app and log you out.
I have tried copying the Spotify folder from my phone to my computer, than pasting after flashing the rom, but this does not work.
Has anyone figured out a way to NOT have to re-download spotify playlist after flashing roms?
EDIT: See my 2nd post for info on solution.
enviii said:
So I've done an extensive search on Google (and this forum) without any reliable answers. My issue is that after flashing a new rom (after wiping data/factory reset) Spotify will automatically delete my offline playlist. Using Titanium or any other backup solution WILL not work with spotify. After restoring it will restore default settings of the app and log you out.
I have tried copying the Spotify folder from my phone to my computer, than pasting after flashing the rom, but this does not work.
Has anyone figured out a way to NOT have to re-download spotify playlist after flashing roms?
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I FIGURED IT OUT! Atleast by accident, I think.
I decided to buy Titanium Pro after getting tired of having to click through the accept for every app. So after flashing a new rom (after backing up Spotify) and opening up Titanium, it asked me to enable dev options and debug mode. So I did that. When I went back into titanium to restore my apps it notified me that my device id had changed and that it may cause problems with backing up or something along those lines. Titanium offered to change it back, and I did. I restored my apps, opened Spotify and was greeted by the playlist screen with the same offline playlist that I had before.
Long story short, use titanium to backup. After flashing, make sure to enable debug/dev options and restore your device id back to what it was on the previous rom and it SHOULD work. I take no responsibility of any issues caused by this.
Thank you! This has been annoying me for literally years!
To restore the Android ID manually with Titanium Backup (sometimes it won't warn you that the the ID has changed as you described) go to the menu button on the overview screen and select "Manage Android ID ..." then select "Restore Android ID from a backup", also "Settings Storage" should be backed up to allow this. I do not restore "Settings Storage" because this can cause issues if moving to a ROM with a different base e.g. moving from AOSP to AOKP/CM.
I wish I knew this was possible before downloading 5,000 songss
enviii said:
I FIGURED IT OUT! Atleast by accident, I think.
I decided to buy Titanium Pro after getting tired of having to click through the accept for every app. So after flashing a new rom (after backing up Spotify) and opening up Titanium, it asked me to enable dev options and debug mode. So I did that. When I went back into titanium to restore my apps it notified me that my device id had changed and that it may cause problems with backing up or something along those lines. Titanium offered to change it back, and I did. I restored my apps, opened Spotify and was greeted by the playlist screen with the same offline playlist that I had before.
Long story short, use titanium to backup. After flashing, make sure to enable debug/dev options and restore your device id back to what it was on the previous rom and it SHOULD work. I take no responsibility of any issues caused by this.
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Does this work when you reboot as well? I only just got a spotify premium account and had assumed that my tracks would stay downloaded when I rebooted my device. Was disapointed to discover that it wasnt.
hertsjoatmon said:
Does this work when you reboot as well? I only just got a spotify premium account and had assumed that my tracks would stay downloaded when I rebooted my device. Was disapointed to discover that it wasnt.
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Nope, rebooting is a different issue. Probably with the app itself. Try downloading a small playlist with like 1 song and rebooting and see if it happens again. If it does then there's probably an issue with the app/storage or something.
Will it really work?
enviii said:
I FIGURED IT OUT! Atleast by accident, I think.
I decided to buy Titanium Pro after getting tired of having to click through the accept for every app. So after flashing a new rom (after backing up Spotify) and opening up Titanium, it asked me to enable dev options and debug mode. So I did that. When I went back into titanium to restore my apps it notified me that my device id had changed and that it may cause problems with backing up or something along those lines. Titanium offered to change it back, and I did. I restored my apps, opened Spotify and was greeted by the playlist screen with the same offline playlist that I had before.
Long story short, use titanium to backup. After flashing, make sure to enable debug/dev options and restore your device id back to what it was on the previous rom and it SHOULD work. I take no responsibility of any issues caused by this.
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Spotify said that the Music is DRM secured. Therefore this post is a few(!) years old. I only want to make sure that this is working well yet with the newest version of Spotify Installed. Mine is 1.0.0.82
~JP
Junpei_Shibayama said:
Spotify said that the Music is DRM secured. Therefore this post is a few(!) years old. I only want to make sure that this is working well yet with the newest version of Spotify Installed. Mine is 1.0.0.82
~JP
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Did not work for me and i tried this method yesterday.
Bit of an old thread, but I did a nandroid of my new LG G3 and tried out a ROM that didnt work right, so I restored my back up and Spotify lost all of its cache even with the proper ID in place already. So no luck here in restoring my cache which was easy by just restoring the proper ID of the phone before, but obviously that isnt the case and I usually have a bunch of playlists actually downloaded for offline play and nothing after restoring my nandroid
I wonder, isn't there a way that works the opposite way?
Let me explain:
Instead of backing up and restoring the Android ID with TB, can't we edit some file in the Spotify offline folder on the phone to make it match a new Android ID?
Any experts out there?
enviii said:
So I've done an extensive search on Google (and this forum) without any reliable answers. My issue is that after flashing a new rom (after wiping data/factory reset) Spotify will automatically delete my offline playlist. Using Titanium or any other backup solution WILL not work with spotify. After restoring it will restore default settings of the app and log you out.
I have tried copying the Spotify folder from my phone to my computer, than pasting after flashing the rom, but this does not work.
Has anyone figured out a way to NOT have to re-download spotify playlist after flashing roms?
EDIT: See my 2nd post for info on solution.
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Lol sorry to be such a gravedigger but this still appears to be an issue and I don't want to pay for Titanium Pro. Anyone found a solution yet? It's 2016. XD
Kutzki said:
Lol sorry to be such a gravedigger but this still appears to be an issue and I don't want to pay for Titanium Pro. Anyone found a solution yet? It's 2016. XD
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I have try using titanium non pro. Its work with this metod (enable user debug)
Next week wil try after flash cm
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enviii said:
I FIGURED IT OUT! Atleast by accident, I think.
I decided to buy Titanium Pro after getting tired of having to click through the accept for every app. So after flashing a new rom (after backing up Spotify) and opening up Titanium, it asked me to enable dev options and debug mode. So I did that. When I went back into titanium to restore my apps it notified me that my device id had changed and that it may cause problems with backing up or something along those lines. Titanium offered to change it back, and I did. I restored my apps, opened Spotify and was greeted by the playlist screen with the same offline playlist that I had before.
Long story short, use titanium to backup. After flashing, make sure to enable debug/dev options and restore your device id back to what it was on the previous rom and it SHOULD work. I take no responsibility of any issues caused by this.
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Much appreciated.
enviii said:
I FIGURED IT OUT! Atleast by accident, I think.
I decided to buy Titanium Pro after getting tired of having to click through the accept for every app. So after flashing a new rom (after backing up Spotify) and opening up Titanium, it asked me to enable dev options and debug mode. So I did that. When I went back into titanium to restore my apps it notified me that my device id had changed and that it may cause problems with backing up or something along those lines. Titanium offered to change it back, and I did. I restored my apps, opened Spotify and was greeted by the playlist screen with the same offline playlist that I had before.
Long story short, use titanium to backup. After flashing, make sure to enable debug/dev options and restore your device id back to what it was on the previous rom and it SHOULD work. I take no responsibility of any issues caused by this.
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I appreciate your "mistake" very very much, cheers to you!. :highfive:
This absolutely works
Did it last night for a firend who unfortunately uses spotify, 1,700 offline tracks successfulyl restoreed after i had to wipe his device and flash it back to stock after he corrupted his external sdcard, running in adopted storage mode....damn, ive never used that and no i know why...what a mess when that goes wrong...i hope the days of low memory devices like the Moto G 4 Play are truly behind us, utter crap out of the box for usable app storage, no choice but to use adopted storage....
And why not throw in a rant....
Let me start by saying i dont do streaming media, for several reasons:
* Bandwidth - in some countries its a nightmare to do streaming without drama, even in 1st world Australia, we have issues with our (Liberal Party hobbled) NBN...
* Proprietary formats and encryption - youre locked to that provider. I dont get why you would let any company lead you down that garden path and pay for your media to be restricted, and especially in spotifies case, locked to the Android ID iof the device - meaning if you want to move it to another device, and dont want ot have to download it all again (11Gb in my friends case), you have to void your warranty on your new phone for one goddamn app, to root it to set the Android ID back the previous devices... Fricking American companies need ot realise that we dont all have fiber fricking network access...
* Utter wastefulness of resources in streaming overall, i do not get how people think its normal to watch something once, and if they want to watch it again, have to stream it all over again. Think of the absolute utter wastefulness of bandwidth globally, the electricity and other resources used in doing this. Humanity is doomed if this doenst register with you. Those for whom is doesnt register as indulgent wasteage should be the first ones made into Soylent Green....
We should be stamping this sh%t out, not embracing it
So while it does work, it raised more questions for me than it answered, and very decidedly cemented my hatred of streaming media.
I like to buy things once, download it once, and use it again as many times as i want. Every track i own came from a legitimate source, either ripped from a physical medium, or purchased in open format, and resides on my PC or an external drive that i can use across any device i own.
I will never give a damn cent to Netflix, Spotify or their kind
Death to streaming media....