i'd like to ask how to back up everything.
i misunderstand what titanium shows to me.
can anyone tell me all steps of using titanium back up?
thank ypu very much
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charlie135246 said:
i'd like to ask how to back up everything.
i misunderstand what titanium shows to me.
can anyone tell me all steps of using titanium back up?
thank ypu very much
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Boot in recovery> backup and restore>backup. It will backup everything.
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Boot in recovery> backup and restore>backup. It will backup everything.
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But i heard that installing cwm recovery, i will lose the samsung maintenance...
Is it true?
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Yes that kinda of correct; rooting it voids maintenance
Titanium Backup is pretty simple, press the top right button and you get all the options, just read them carefully.
Rooting voids your warranty but it's ridiculously easy to unroot.
Best do a system backup though. I found normal CWM to be a bit flaky here with data backup, but Touch has been fine (and little reason to avoid using it really). Again, self explanatory, and will save you so much time.
To make life easier, grab an SD card. Not a must but useful for external backups, and transferring from one ROM to another. Otherwise you'll have to copy to a computer, full wipe, then put the backup folder back.
CWM Nandroid does not backup modem nor does it backup the more important EFS folder .
Titanium is used to backup apps .
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Hi everyone,
I'm pretty confused of the difference between a nandroid backup and Titanium backup.
My understanding is:
nandroid = kind of a restore point for the phone with all system, apps and user data.
Titanium backup = same thing, but with options to choose what to back up.
So why do you need 2 of the same thing if they both perform exactly the same thing? Eventually, we'll probably be using the backup to restore those datas in case we want to flash new ROMs.
Am I missing something here?
Thank you for the info!
emigre said:
Hi everyone,
I'm pretty confused of the difference between a nandroid backup and Titanium backup.
My understanding is:
nandroid = kind of a restore point for the phone with all system, apps and user data.
Titanium backup = same thing, but with options to choose what to back up.
So why do you need 2 of the same thing if they both perform exactly the same thing? Eventually, we'll probably be using the backup to restore those datas in case we want to flash new ROMs.
Am I missing something here?
Thank you for the info!
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You don't need two of the same thing. I haven't used titanium but nandroid is a, if you will, what-you-see-is-what-you-get backup....what I mean by this is it will back up your phone in the exact state it is...you can't choose to exclude this or that, etc. I prefer mybackup pro because the one time I used titanium I couldn't figure out what to do cuz the GUI was so scrub. That's just me tho.
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I think the main difference is that nandroid will restore everything back the way it was through recovery. With Titanium Backup, you can backup your apps+data and restore them if you flash a new ROM. So like if you upgrade to the latest version of CM6 or Liberated, you can carry your apps over. If you restore the nandroid, it will restore the old ROM too.
Thanks for the response guys.
@blindfusion: I think you just pointed out the main difference there. I didn't think of it that way, the old ROM would also be flashed!
@zervic: Now I think I'll need to get my hands on a backup app. Will check out backup Pro!
Thanks again!
under nandroid/advanced restore, there's an option to restore data. not sure how it differs from titanium. i think titanium let's you pick the apps to back up. nandroid just backs up everything.
So does nandroid also give us the option to restore data (ie. Saved apps, datas, etc) under advanced without flashing the old ROM back in?
For example if i were to flash a newer ROM (FR007 for instance), then i'd be able to have access and restore ALL the backed up data in nandroid? And have a newer version of the OS?
Am i missing something here? I guess i just want to keep my aria light and avoid installing apps i absoloutely do not need. To keep it zippy and maintain precious internal memory.
Thanks again everyone!
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that's how i've restored apps/data after updating rom.
Thanks for the confirmation Darren!
Just to confirm that means that if I use titanium backup, it can backup the exact same things as Nandroid backup but you can use it for your new ROM?
No titanium backs up app and their data only.nandroid is a full system image.
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Just to confirm that means that if I use titanium backup, it can backup the exact same things as Nandroid backup but you can use it for your new ROM?
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Always make both before flashing a new ROM. If everything goes according to plan, run Titanium to restore all your apps into the new ROM. If something goes wrong, you can use Nandroid to restore your phone to pre-flash state.
Also, you should copy the Nandroid file to your computer. If your phone is ever lost or stolen and you get a new one, you can restore it to your old phone's image.
NANDroid backup is a complete image of your phone: the OS, apps, data, everything. So if you screw up your phone, like making it unbootable, or accidentally wiping it clean, you can restore the image and everything will be back to the way it was when you did the backup.
Titanium Backup is an app in your OS that backs up other apps, their data, and some system data / user settings. It's usually used, for example, for restoring apps and their data after a clean install, where you've wiped everything clean.
The two options are fundamentally different, but do have some overlap.
I've never got nandroid backup to work for me personally. Always comes up, "backup not found".
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glad i read this thread. it clear up a lot of questions i have.
the only other question i want to ask is what is difference between ClockWorkMod and Nandroid backup?
I heard CWM is an Nandroid backup so does this mean Nandroid backup is a general term for system back up ? or is it an actual program?
silentsigma said:
glad i read this thread. it clear up a lot of questions i have.
the only other question i want to ask is what is difference between ClockWorkMod and Nandroid backup?
I heard CWM is an Nandroid backup so does this mean Nandroid backup is a general term for system back up ? or is it an actual program?
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You heard wrong about ClockworkMod. ClockworkMod is a recovery. Nandroid backup is not an actual program, but a backup of your entire system which can be done through ClockworkMod (it's an option).
thanks. that answer all of my backup questions.
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You heard wrong about ClockworkMod. ClockworkMod is a recovery. Nandroid backup is not an actual program, but a backup of your entire system which can be done through ClockworkMod (it's an option).
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Sorry still unclear for me, so if i have CWM i will go to recovery and there i can performe the backup right?
that copies the nandroid to my Sd card? and that image is flasheable image? is that correct? sorry if any of those is a stupid question :S
Edit: Nevermind, i found a guide here that is good for newbies like me, but thanks anyway
Sorry for necro'ing this thread, but at least it's better than making a new one!
From what I've read in this thread, I understand a bit better about the difference.
I've also read that it's important to save nandroid back up on PC in case you lose your phone.
Therein lies my next 2 questions.
1. If I want to use a nandroid backup on the replacement, it should be exactly the same phone, otherwise there might be a problem with the compatibility of the ROM stored in the nandroid and the phone. Right?
2. If I want to use a titanium backup on the replacement, I can use it on any phone, except I should not restore the SYSTEM apps. Right?
If (2) is correct, then we should also keep a titanium backup on the PC?
Part of my reason is also, I plan to switch from Desire HD to SGS3 and I hope to keep both pretty similar with slightly different interface. I plan to root my SGS3 and use titanium to restore some things from my DHD to SGS3. Using a nandroid on the new SGS3 will be a FATAL mistake right?
I know this is not a DHD forum, but the technicalities are the same, so I hope it's no offense asking these questions here!
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Oops forgot to add!
I'm using 4ext instead of CWM. In a brief reading, I've found that 4ext has it's own backup which is not nandroid. But backing up from 4ext is the same as doing a nandroid backup? In which case, every "nandroid" in the earlier post can just be replaced with "4ext backup" accordingly.
If this is a stupid question, just scold me, I'm still learning and asking as I'm reading. Just trying not to create new threads.
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Sorry for necro'ing this thread, but at least it's better than making a new one!
From what I've read in this thread, I understand a bit better about the difference.
I've also read that it's important to save nandroid back up on PC in case you lose your phone.
Therein lies my next 2 questions.
1. If I want to use a nandroid backup on the replacement, it should be exactly the same phone, otherwise there might be a problem with the compatibility of the ROM stored in the nandroid and the phone. Right?
2. If I want to use a titanium backup on the replacement, I can use it on any phone, except I should not restore the SYSTEM apps. Right?
If (2) is correct, then we should also keep a titanium backup on the PC?
Part of my reason is also, I plan to switch from Desire HD to SGS3 and I hope to keep both pretty similar with slightly different interface. I plan to root my SGS3 and use titanium to restore some things from my DHD to SGS3. Using a nandroid on the new SGS3 will be a FATAL mistake right?
I know this is not a DHD forum, but the technicalities are the same, so I hope it's no offense asking these questions here!
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Oops forgot to add!
I'm using 4ext instead of CWM. In a brief reading, I've found that 4ext has it's own backup which is not nandroid. But backing up from 4ext is the same as doing a nandroid backup? In which case, every "nandroid" in the earlier post can just be replaced with "4ext backup" accordingly.
If this is a stupid question, just scold me, I'm still learning and asking as I'm reading. Just trying not to create new threads.
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1. Correct. Its highly likely that there will be issues (device won't boot) on almost every occasion.
2. Yes. You may also want to exclude "app data," since it may cause a bootloop or system instability (on some occasions). You could keep a Tb backup if you wish.
It won't be a fatal mistake, but the device will just not boot up (soft-brick). You would have to boot into recovery mode a restore/flash a rom made for the device.
Yes, that's correct.
I have unnamed ROM on my phone now. I want to jump into ICS, but I had a question regarding backups.
I have a nandroid backup, I have a MyBackup backup of all my contacts, sms, mms, apps and data, that kind of thing. I have plugged the phone into the PC and physically copied and pasted the entirety of the internal and external memory to my PC.
Is there ANYTHING else I can do to make this as painless as possible? The new ROM will undoubtedly call for a complete wipe and reinstall.
Is there any way to make a bit-by-bit image of the phone before I start, so that if I don't like it or it doesn't work, I can just go back to exactly the way it was before I started? Or am I asking too much?
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Is there any way to make a bit-by-bit image of the phone before I start, so that if I don't like it or it doesn't work, I can just go back to exactly the way it was before I started? Or am I asking too much?
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That's pretty much what a NANDROID backup is as long as it doesn't get corrupted.
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That's pretty much what a NANDROID backup is as long as it doesn't get corrupted.
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that's kind of what I thought, I ran it twice (one to internal one to external) just in case.
Once the phone's charged I'm off to the races I guess.
Might I suggest that you save your NANDROID backups to your computer? That would be a good precautionary step. They are under /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup or something like that.
Have you ever heard of Titanium Backup?
NVM you need nandroid haha
Careful about replacing system data from one rom to another with MyBackup! That stuff doesn't end well.
k4zyn said:
I have unnamed ROM on my phone now. I want to jump into ICS, but I had a question regarding backups.
I have a nandroid backup, I have a MyBackup backup of all my contacts, sms, mms, apps and data, that kind of thing. I have plugged the phone into the PC and physically copied and pasted the entirety of the internal and external memory to my PC.
Is there ANYTHING else I can do to make this as painless as possible? The new ROM will undoubtedly call for a complete wipe and reinstall.
Is there any way to make a bit-by-bit image of the phone before I start, so that if I don't like it or it doesn't work, I can just go back to exactly the way it was before I started? Or am I asking too much?
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From what ur saying if all u want to do is go back to exactly what u were then nandroid is the way to go
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Quadra_Slam said:
Careful about replacing system data from one rom to another with MyBackup! That stuff doesn't end well.
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And also take care. Some Rom like CM9 advise not use Titanium to recover/restore your backup. I dont know exactly why.
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And also take care. Some Rom like CM9 advise not use Titanium to recover/restore your backup. I dont know exactly why.
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No they only say that if you want support. It's perfectly fine to use it
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k4zyn said:
that's kind of what I thought, I ran it twice (one to internal one to external) just in case.
Once the phone's charged I'm off to the races I guess.
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1.) Copy Nandroid back to your PC along with your Titanium Backup files.
2.) Run the MD5 file through a checker (I use QuickPar) to confirm the backup is not corrupted
3.) Backup your SMS with a market tool of your choosing
4.) Remember your settings and whatnot
5.) Make sure you have any flashable scripts you use availaable to reflash if you're using them on the new ROM.
6.) FLASH new ROM, then use Titanium Backup to install your APPS (not system stuff). Restore your texts, then flash whatever other junk you want back.
7.) ENJOY
Hi there, I'm kinda new to android and was wondering: is there a way to back up the S3 like the iPhone? Where everything gets backed up into a file and if i were to reformat my phone I can just restore it and everything will be there. Thanks. :angel:
I really like Go Backup. Never had an issue with it, even from going to stock firmware to CM9 or 10, which usually ruins titanium backups.
But the one file backup would be a nandroid, which is done through recovery.
FlyingPizza said:
Hi there, I'm kinda new to android and was wondering: is there a way to back up the S3 like the iPhone? Where everything gets backed up into a file and if i were to reformat my phone I can just restore it and everything will be there. Thanks. :angel:
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I prefer titanium backup and twrp. Of course you need to be rooted for these to be installed
How do u restore things using titanium backup? Can i restore data like settings when going from stock to other aosp roms?
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gyromuff said:
I prefer titanium backup and twrp. Of course you need to be rooted for these to be installed
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Do yo ureally have TWRP for i9300 ?
rsxsniper said:
How do u restore things using titanium backup? Can i restore data like settings when going from stock to other aosp roms?
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Yes you can restore but it is not advisable..will create conflicts and FCs..Best bet is to restore all the apps with data from TB..all the apps will have their settings intact..only problem is TW launcher but if you are going to AOSP then that is not a problem...otherwise backup TWlauncher also and restore it with Data..force closes may come though..
Titanium Backup works great for me, but be careful restoring system aps.
Make a nandroid backup just in case you mess something up
With both nandroid backup and titanium backup, I feel like immortal
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With both nandroid backup and titanium backup, I feel like immortal
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But you would be proven as not with no backed up EFS folder .
jje
JJEgan said:
But you would be proven as not with no backed up EFS folder .
jje
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+1.......the most overlooked, but most important backup of all, everything else is just a matter of data loss, but losing efs= goodbye precious!
how about Ultimate Backup Tool?
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Hello all,
I am kind of new to rooting. I've owned my S3 for like 4 months but only just now did I decide to root it... I've already installed a custom rom and i couldn't be happier, it's Wanamlite 5.3.
Now I would like to try different roms, such as UltimaRom, as it has a far better Aroma installer with much more customization.
But I've got a question... ¿Do i need to wipe all my data in order to flash the other rom on top of Wanamlite?
Cheers.
You might get lucky and be just fine flashing it on top, but there's a very good chance you'll get a lot of problems. In fact, it probably won't boot at all. So it's always good to do a wipe before switching ROMs. Backup your data and apps in Titanium
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You might get lucky and be just fine flashing it on top, but there's a very good chance you'll get a lot of problems. In fact, it probably won't boot at all. So it's always good to do a wipe before switching ROMs. Backup your data and apps in Titanium
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Yeah... I'll most likely end up doing that.
Anyway, I was reading the instructions in the UltimaRom post and they mention that you should make a NANDroid Backup using CWM. What is the purpose of this backup? I mean, with Titatanium you can restore your apps, but what kind of data does NANDroid Backup save and restore?
Cheers.
Alphadan said:
Yeah... I'll most likely end up doing that.
Anyway, I was reading the instructions in the UltimaRom post and they mention that you should make a NANDroid Backup using CWM. What is the purpose of this backup? I mean, with Titatanium you can restore your apps, but what kind of data does NANDroid Backup save and restore?
Cheers.
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Nandroid backup if i am right is like a boot image of your phone when you do the backup, so if things go wrong it will restore the phone with everything you had at the point of backup
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Nandroid backup if i am right is like a boot image of your phone when you do the backup, so if things go wrong it will restore the phone with everything you had at the point of backup
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Learned that from my wii flashing days lol
Cool guys, thanks for your help )
Can anyone advice me on what can be done if anything?. I have a S3 LTE Gt-I9305 I installed Titanium Pro and CWM. Did back ups on both and then decided to only keep CWM and promply went on to flash my ROM. It looks like the Ripper ROM has loaded but the touch screen won’t work visually it works fine but to unlock the screen, nothing happens. What could be the cause?. Secondly is there any way to re install titanium back on the phone as I have titanium backup files and hope that will restore the phone back to normal. Any advice???.
CWM & Titanium Back backups are two different things. CWM does a nandroid backup which includes your complete phone setup at the time of backing up. Titanium only backs up apps (user & system) & data.
Hence if you want to return to your old phone's setup you have to use your CWM backup.
Maybe read some of the guides in the FAQ thread to get up to speed on flashing, backups etc. first before you move on!
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CWM & Titanium Back backups are two different things. CWM does a nandroid backup which includes your complete phone setup at the time of backing up. Titanium only backs up apps (user & system) & data.
Hence if you want to return to your old phone's setup you have to use your CWM backup.
Maybe read some of the guides in the FAQ thread to get up to speed on flashing, backups etc. first before you move on!
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Thanks!. I know they two different thngs, hence me asking if there is any way of restoring Titanium back onto the phone, as I think the reason the touch screen on my phone may not be working because there could be a system file missing which CWM has not backed up. And CWM won't restore Titanium files or not that I am aware of.
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Thanks!. I know they two different thngs, hence me asking if there is any way of restoring Titanium back onto the phone, as I think the reason the touch screen on my phone may not be working because there could be a system file missing which CWM has not backed up. And CWM won't restore Titanium files or not that I am aware of.
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Sure you can restore from Titanium, but I guess a safer bet in your case would be to do a factory wipe and flash a stock ROM. Easier and cleaner way as CWM usually backups any file, would be strange if it misses a few.
anyone know how to restore just the SMS data history from Nandroid backup?
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Sure you can restore from Titanium, but I guess a safer bet in your case would be to do a factory wipe and flash a stock ROM. Easier and cleaner way as CWM usually backups any file, would be strange if it misses a few.
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Mmm.... Thats the problem I have done a factroy wipe and flashed a stock ROM didn't seem to help. Not even too sure i might have even accsedentally deleted a file from the phone when it was connected to my pc. and without the screen working I don't know that I can re load Titanium as the screen touch pad won't work.
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Mmm.... Thats the problem I have done a factroy wipe and flashed a stock ROM didn't seem to help. Not even too sure i might have even accsedentally deleted a file from the phone when it was connected to my pc. and without the screen working I don't know that I can re load Titanium as the screen touch pad won't work.
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even if you deleted a file, you should be able to flash a stock ROM via Odin in Download Mode (as far as the hardware buttons still work).
If you really flashed a stock ROM already, you could still try to flash your nandroid via CWM (should also support navigation via hardware buttons or not?), and if this doesn't work I am out of options :-/
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anyone know how to restore just the SMS data history from Nandroid backup?
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Nandroid manager
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Nandroid manager
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Yes, I already installed Nandroid manager but i don't know where to look for it.
Is this the right one /data/data/com.android.mms
IIRC it has the option to restore SMS