How do I know whether or not I can use it? Can I only use "stock-like" roms? or can I use a more advanced rom and mod it and change everything and zip it up as my own?
I think you need permission of the dev of whatever rom you want to base yours off of. Or at least it's polite. :beer:
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Can't_Live_Without_My_Evo said:
How do I know whether or not I can use it? Can I only use "stock-like" roms? or can I use a more advanced rom and mod it and change everything and zip it up as my own?
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you can't just modify someones work and post it as your own, that's called "kanging" and people get banned for it.
there are "rules" in our forum, they explain this fairly well here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726334
I don't mean to be "That guy"
That's why i'm asking these things, i'm trying to get a better understanding of whats going on here, I don't mean to seem like a pest, Or ever worse a troll, And I'm trying to not break rules, That's not what I'm here for, i'm here to learn.
And the only way to learn is through questions.
Edit: I read the rules, And pretty much, As long as he says it's cool it's cool. I'm clearly not uploading anything at this time, I do not wanna do anyone wrong or be on anyone's bad side, in fact I don't even have a flashable zip.
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you can't just modify someones work and post it as your own, that's called "kanging" and people get banned for it.
there are "rules" in our forum, they explain this fairly well here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726334
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Do you feel that i'm out of line for asking questions out of ignorance?
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Do you feel that i'm out of line for asking questions out of ignorance?
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Nope, just letting you know.
Kanging is taboo brother. It is frowned upon amongst the forum community. It's like stealing somebodies idea or story or quote. Your basically a theif.
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Just as the title says...Can we now?
Which problems? This build is the same ED01 build we found a few days ago.
Doubt it will make a huge difference. Its nearly the same as EC01.
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Check out evil fascination rom. Pretty nice, based on what I believe to be the same build sent ota tonight. Thats as good as it gets right now imo.
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How about you fix them yourself Or be a little less impatient and a little more grateful of how much work these dudes do for us.
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How about you fix them yourself Or be a little less impatient and a little more grateful of how much work these dudes do for us.
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He's just asking a simple question. No need to answer that way.
Yes, it IS true that there probably isn't MUCH of a difference between this and EC01...
However, this is what I was waiting on to update my ROM, personally, so I will be doing this in the next few days. As for what other developers would like to do, that is a personal choice, they may simply not see any reason to and won't.
So besides those like me who make the choice to do anything with it, you probably won't see anything happen. Just keep in mind that just because it is official doesn't really make it any better than what we have at this moment. I haven't explored it yet, but that is my opinion on the matter.
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He's just asking a simple question. No need to answer that way.
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When the OP cannot understand simple forum rules I see no reason to censor comments made towards him *edit* unless the intention is to "flame" said user.
This is a question, not a ROM or anything being DEVELOPED and it has no place here.
Now say if this were asked in Q and A I would see your reasoning at being a little harsh.
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When the OP cannot understand simple forum rules I see no reason to censor comments made towards him.
This is a question, not a ROM or anything being DEVELOPED and it has no place here.
Now say if this were asked in Q and A I would see no reason to be slightly harsh .
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also most people want aosp,cm fixes and this will not help them, the stuff they want fixed is tied to tw which had been stated hundreds of times.
SC2.9.2 Voodoo Eclipse
Something to that effect (Touchwiz source doesn't help AOSP so much) should honestly be stickied to the top of the development forum, although I doubt that would help that much anyway with the type of people who post these threads...
People don't remember how long it took for JT to even get a good Eclair AOSP build working. I think it's somewhat clear that Samsung's releases are not terribly useful for AOSP ROMs.
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When the OP cannot understand simple forum rules I see no reason to censor comments made towards him *edit* unless the intention is to "flame" said user.
This is a question, not a ROM or anything being DEVELOPED and it has no place here.
Now say if this were asked in Q and A I would see your reasoning at being a little harsh.
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I really think that mods should temp-ban these people who just post wherever they want.
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We don't have everything we need from Samsung. Stop asking. It's been said already.
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We don't have everything we need from Samsung. Stop asking. It's been said already.
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Thats all folks!
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Sorry I just think it's a little rude to post this in the Development forum is exclamation points and CAPS!!! It came off very "ugh why do these dev roms have so many problems can we just get them fixed? GAWD!"...to me. I am not a developer but I am very aware that it is not nearly as simple to do what they do as some people seem to think. Maybe I over reacted a little, but that type of attitude pisses me off.
I am putting this up in favor of the devs. I am not a dev myself, but I certainly respect what they are doing! What I can't stand are the people who keep asking dumb questions, like: when will this be fully working? Or: What is the status of android on touch pro 2? Look at the threads! If you took the time to look, you would know that there is still work to be done. Again, thank you devs!
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Noobs will be noobs and there will never be a shortage of them lol, not much you can do about it. That's what I've learned with forums.
Noobs will be Noobs is right. I actually think the status updates have been very frequent and easy to navigate. (even for people like me that haven't been around much lately! :O )
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I already wrote a comprehensive guide/introduction for them. The link is in my signature, check the date on it and bump it.
I am willing to add anything if anyone suggests anything that needs adding.
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I already wrote a comprehensive guide/introduction for them. The link is in my signature, check the date on it and bump it.
I am willing to add anything if anyone suggests anything that needs adding.
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Pretty sure a guide like that should be stickied with the rest of those threads at the top... that would be veryy helpful. I would be very confused too coming into the android threads for the first time.
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Pretty sure a guide like that should be stickied with the rest of those threads at the top... that would be veryy helpful. I would be very confused too coming into the android threads for the first time.
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Agree ^^
If it needs any more work I would be happy to do so.
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Agree ^^
If it needs any more work I would be happy to do so.
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Maybe at the "download your files here" section, say that the users don't necesarily need to know how those files work and what exactly they do, just that they are needed parts for android to work. Just trying to think if I was a beginner and what might confuse or overwhelm me. Just a suggestion but it probably wouldn't make a difference. Other than that I just wonder who needs to be told in order to get this thing stickied. This is kind of the equivelant of the thread in the WinMo section on flashing ROMs for noobs.
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Maybe at the "download your files here" section, say that the users don't necesarily need to know how those files work and what exactly they do, just that they are needed parts for android to work. Just trying to think if I was a beginner and what might confuse or overwhelm me. Just a suggestion but it probably wouldn't make a difference. Other than that I just wonder who needs to be told in order to get this thing stickied. This is kind of the equivelant of the thread in the WinMo section on flashing ROMs for noobs.
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mm yeah, i will tidy it up when i get home.
Tidy and stickied.
I have a bootable cm7 port, and I need a experienced porter/kernel dev to take it over or help me get working. Right now there is no usb, sound or network. So please pm me for the download link. We need to get cm7 up and running.
its already in the works.
Just leave it alone and let the devs get it working.
So do you have touch input working? As far as I know none of the others have that working.
You might want to post it up with the download link in the dev section. You might also want to pm some of the dev's making senseless roms they have been taking out sense stuff and adding aosp stuff lately, so they might know what needs to be in there to make it work.
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So do you have touch input working? As far as I know none of the others have that working.
You might want to post it up with the download link in the dev section. You might also want to pm some of the dev's making senseless roms they have been taking out sense stuff and adding aosp stuff lately, so they might know what needs to be in there to make it work.
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No you DO NOT want to do this.
This doesn't belong in the Development section and to tell you the truth shouldn't even be in this section. You should of done a search and seen there's already a thread on this. You don't even have the newest version. There's already one with touchscreen and Sound working and it boots.
JUST LET THE REAL DEVS DO WHAT THERE SUPPOSED TO AND WAIT
i love all the thread police here. it makes my day.
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No you DO NOT want to do this.
This doesn't belong in the Development section and to tell you the truth shouldn't even be in this section. You should of done a search and seen there's already a thread on this. You don't even have the newest version. There's already one with touchscreen and Sound working and it boots.
JUST LET THE REAL DEVS DO WHAT THERE SUPPOSED TO AND WAIT
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Is this tone really necessary?
The guy is trying to help dude... wtf is wrong with you?
He is simply stating not to post again bc many have attempted to get help here and toast is already working on it, one of thee most respected developers on xda, don't post on on the dev section bc we all know he is working on it and he'll get it done all we need is patience
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No you DO NOT want to do this.
This doesn't belong in the Development section and to tell you the truth shouldn't even be in this section. You should of done a search and seen there's already a thread on this. You don't even have the newest version. There's already one with touchscreen and Sound working and it boots.
JUST LET THE REAL DEVS DO WHAT THERE SUPPOSED TO AND WAIT
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Dude what do you think the development section is for? Maybe developing a rom possibly? Look at the op's join date 2007, I highly doubt he is noob, which would make me assume this is a real trying to recruit people to work on this.
Also it is better to have more people working on something than just one. If only one person had worked on our root we might still only have temp root now. revolutionary didn't just stop because they heard somebody else was working on root.
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Dude what do you think the development section is for? Maybe developing a rom possibly? Look at the op's join date 2007, I highly doubt he is noob, which would make me assume this is a real trying to recruit people to work on this.
Also it is better to have more people working on something than just one. If only one person had worked on our root we might still only have temp root now. revolutionary didn't just stop because they heard somebody else was working on root.
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The OP is actually smart and not listened to whoever it was that suggested it.
I agree with JOEY_UFC. it does not belong in development.
yes touch is working. I posted in the right section and im not going to leave it alone. So if you dont want the help get out of my post.
If everyone stopped working on something because someone else was working on it, where would we be?
Joey_UFC said:
No you DO NOT want to do this.
This doesn't belong in the Development section and to tell you the truth shouldn't even be in this section. You should of done a search and seen there's already a thread on this. You don't even have the newest version. There's already one with touchscreen and Sound working and it boots.
JUST LET THE REAL DEVS DO WHAT THERE SUPPOSED TO AND WAIT
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Why are you knocking him for trying it on his own? Every Dev has to start somewhere. If he wants to attempt to learn, people should be encouraging him not telling him to leave it alone for the "real" devs. When I ported clockwork recovery to the dell streak 7 I knew nothing about Linux or android development , but the community helped me learn the ropes and encouraged me to get it done, Not discouraged me telling me to leave it alone and wait for a more experienced Dev to get it working.
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He is simply stating not to post again bc many have attempted to get help here and toast is already working on it, one of thee most respected developers on xda, don't post on on the dev section bc we all know he is working on it and he'll get it done all we need is patience
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Um, so what if somewhat is already working on it? For all we know this guy may be more talented than Toastcfh. Perhaps he can find the solution to something that Toast cannot figure out... Bottom line, Android development is a collaboration and we shouldn't scold people for trying to help, develop, and contribute.
krunkymonkey said:
yes touch is working. I posted in the right section and im not going to leave it alone. So if you dont want the help get out of my post.
If everyone stopped working on something because someone else was working on it, where would we be?
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Right on! Just ignore these no talent clowns.
Joey_UFC said:
No you DO NOT want to do this.
This doesn't belong in the Development section and to tell you the truth shouldn't even be in this section. You should of done a search and seen there's already a thread on this. You don't even have the newest version. There's already one with touchscreen and Sound working and it boots.
JUST LET THE REAL DEVS DO WHAT THERE SUPPOSED TO AND WAIT
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SMH. No wonder we have the worst forum on xda.
i think the OP should keep up the good work. since when was it a rule that a specific dev can work on CM7 and no one else. XDA is supposed to be about helping others when help is needed, not scolding people and trying to break their spirits. all the OP is doing is asking for a little help, and like someone previously stated, he may have found/fixed something that the other devs working on CM7 missed
This forum should just get rid of post counts. People feel the need to talk when they don't have to, leading to a few spamming power users that are dicks/trolls that run the show.
Why do dudes in this forum act the way they do. Makes people not want to ask for help. Dude keep doing what your doing man. Knowledge and Fadakar I'm with you. Knowledge your so right man never seen this going on in the hero forum.
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Yeahuhhh!
krunkymonkey said:
yes touch is working. I posted in the right section and im not going to leave it alone. So if you dont want the help get out of my post.
If everyone stopped working on something because someone else was working on it, where would we be?
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right on bro!!keep going at it!!the more people working on this the better!!
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SMH. No wonder we have the worst forum on xda.
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Anyone know by chance? Thanks!!
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no and this thread is pointless because its been brought up a few times in the unnamed thread
Nick281051 said:
no and this thread is pointless because its been brought up a few times in the unnamed thread
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youre pointless for responding to it then
mmtrago said:
youre pointless for responding to it then
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I answered the question didn't I? I also gave some advice so no it wasn't pointless.
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youre pointless for responding to it then
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No, his response has a point cause it will inform people who don't know( like yourself).
theres only three people i like around here..gtg..jivy and entropy..the rest of you just answer questions like jerks cause you think you contribute so much but you really dont and you just **** on the new people...this includes the people that run this site as well
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I see and impending closing of this thread. XD.
Let's keep it alive by spreading more hate (Now that was a pointless post)
I don't try to make it seem like I contribute a lot. I just answer questions to the best of my ability because I don't know how to theme/dev I'm not ****ting on new guys
This explains why I said what I said in my first statement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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mmtrago said:
theres only three people i like around here..gtg..jivy and entropy..the rest of you just answer questions like jerks cause you think you contribute so much but you really dont and you just **** on the new people...this includes the people that run this site as well
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this meaningless derp supposed to be a "contribution????" if all that is "contributed is peace of mind for a few, than its far more than any of your posts good sir. this is not a bashing / flaming board. please check your disposition towards our fellow members
what? the only people you like here are ROM devs? you make me laugh at you
You all sound like a bunch of nagging women.... Just saying
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what? the only people you like here are ROM devs? you make me laugh at you
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I've always known Entropy more for his Kernel.
Gotta thank Zedomax too, he contributed quite a bit with his root walk-through.
I don't understand how this thread is still open.
My understanding was it was [Q] "Does JKay mod work on UnNamed 2.0.0?" [A] "No, its been answered, search before asking"
Based on that layout this belongs in Q/A anyway
How did it all turn into a **** storm??
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I've always known Entropy more for his Kernel.
Gotta thank Zedomax too, he contributed quite a bit with his root walk-through.
I don't understand how this thread is still open.
My understanding was it was [Q] "Does JKay mod work on UnNamed 2.0.0?" [A] "No, its been answered, search before asking"
Based on that layout this belongs in Q/A anyway
How did it all turn into a **** storm??
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People get offended when you tell them to look before creating threads
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theres only three people i like around here..gtg..jivy and entropy..the rest of you just answer questions like jerks cause you think you contribute so much but you really dont and you just **** on the new people...this includes the people that run this site as well
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Says the master of all contributors on this site, with your 59 posts. Get a life and go back to reading instead of posting. Obviously you have no clue what goes on here.
What is jaykay?
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mmtrago said:
theres only three people i like around here..gtg..jivy and entropy..the rest of you just answer questions like jerks cause you think you contribute so much but you really dont and you just **** on the new people...this includes the people that run this site as well
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Cool, infraction given for flaming.
Thread also closed due to... well a number of things, but most importantly we dont need another one of these threads since this topic has been brought up several times in the UnNamed thread in the Development forum.
Hey guys I just made a port using a guide from Supermaster34 and I need yall to see if it works thank you.
http://www.mediafire.com/?0rtc2gz11j6v28h
Sorry for not posting enough info.
This rom is for the galaxy player 4.0. Thanks to htcclay for actually building the rom, and sorry i couldn't answer your pm i've been out for a while
And the only reason i wasnt able to test it out is because i currently do not have my player.(sent it to samsung.)
:laugh: Sorry if I offended anyone
For which devices?
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Erm usually some info is nice like which device, screen shots and you forgot to credit the original devs of the ROM you ported. Also you should be the first person to test your ROM to make sure it works. Its your responsibility to make sure it boots and works correctly
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that's what i was concerned about after Supermaster34 posted his guide, that many noobs would create a lot of assed together hardly working roms and fill this forum with them.. just what we need!
baladev said:
that's what i was concerned about after Supermaster34 posted his guide, that many noobs would create a lot of assed together hardly working roms and fill this forum with them.. just what we need!
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Really? We all make mistakes from time to time, and quite honestly, this community needs all the dev work it gets, even if it's "half-assed" like you claim. We all have to start somewhere, so please keep your demotivational comments to yourself. I agree, this does need some work, but it's better to correct and forget than to spam the thread with complaints about mistakes.
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Really? We all make mistakes from time to time, and quite honestly, this community needs all the dev work it gets, even if it's "half-assed" like you claim. We all have to start somewhere, so please keep your demotivational comments to yourself. I agree, this does need some work, but it's better to correct and forget than to spam the thread with complaints about mistakes.
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in this case you stop spamming with complaints about the complaints. fyi, i didn't complain about anything, in my opinion there's difference between someone being a noob and making mistakes because of it and someone being obviously careless. How can you post a rom without even mentioning what device that rom is for and ignoring guidelines from the guide you are following? I'm sorry if it came a bit harsh, didn't want to hurt anyones egos, was talking in general terms.
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in this case you stop spamming with complaints about the complaints. fyi, i didn't complain about anything, in my opinion there's difference between someone being a noob and making mistakes because of it and someone being obviously careless. How can you post a rom without even mentioning what device that rom is for and ignoring guidelines from the guide you are following? I'm sorry if it came a bit harsh, didn't want to hurt anyones egos, was talking in general terms.
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Its the guys first rom. Everyone makes mistake even the smartest of devs sometimes forget these stuff. You have to fail to succeed sometimes. Any rom for the galaxy players is accepted as long as they work. It does not matter if built by a noob or a recognized dev, it is welcomed.
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in this case you stop spamming with complaints about the complaints. fyi, i didn't complain about anything, in my opinion there's difference between someone being a noob and making mistakes because of it and someone being obviously careless. How can you post a rom without even mentioning what device that rom is for and ignoring guidelines from the guide you are following? I'm sorry if it came a bit harsh, didn't want to hurt anyones egos, was talking in general terms.
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What noteworthy developmental contributions have you made to the SGP forum? If you think you can do a better job developing something, then you do it. You're not always right. Yet, you try to defend yourself, but the harsh truth is you were being downright rude.
I'm sorry, but there's no sense in you discouraging newly established developers from trying new things, when you have not even contributed any sort of development to the community.
Remember that this is the dev forum guys. Please take the arguments elsewhere. If I finish all my work soon I'll test this ROM to see if it works although I need to find my player first XD.
It turns out that it is a rom for the Player 4.0 so I can't test it
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Remember that this is the dev forum guys. Please take the arguments elsewhere. If I finish all my work soon I'll test this ROM to see if it works although I need to find my player first XD.
It turns out that it is a rom for the Player 4.0 so I can't test it
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This is true, sorry for cluttering up this thread, I just felt like I needed to intervene . As has been said, while soultaker did NOT follow directions, merely a simple correction is needed, not a full-blown reprimand, especially since this is his FIRST dev contribution to the community. Clocking in at under 12 posts, I would say that that's pretty darn impressive, even if his format leaves a bit to be desired.
Good luck!
Actually i cant test it out right now since i dont have my player with me.
How do i flash?
The same way you flash regular cm9
i just wanted to point out that it says it is for the 4.0 in the description although not in the title. lol before making comments people should read and sorry ik this is development just wanted to point it out... sorry...
heet1 said:
i just wanted to point out that it says it is for the 4.0 in the description although not in the title. lol before making comments people should read and sorry ik this is development just wanted to point it out... sorry...
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No, sorry. You're wrong.
I think it is YOU who should do the reading around here. The OP was originally devoid of all technical information. After establishing that fact, and a few arguments on the side, Soultaker went and edited the OP.
You can see where it says he edited the OP on 9/21. The debacle regarding the OP took place before 9/21. So, I believe I'll paraphrase you. This is development, so act like it. Use your brains and look at the information posted first.
You're asserting yourself in an argument that has long been finished; so, before you tell everyone to do something, I suggest you do it first.
The OP has now been updated to include the relevant information so I guess we can stop arguing about it now. Also arguments do not belong in dev so use pm or something else and don't clutter up this thread. People make mistakes all the time and the best thing we can do is help them learn from their mistakes rather than criticising them at every opportunity
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How do I flash this? Do I need Odin/Heimdall?