Chameleon Launcher for Tablets available in the market for $10.00. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLmNoYW1lbGVvbmxhdW5jaGVyIl0.
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Chameleon Launcher for Tablets available in the market for $10.00. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEwMiwiY29tLmNoYW1lbGVvbmxhdW5jaGVyIl0.
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Man look at some of those reviews...I really want to like/try this app, but not for $10.00 at this stage. Maybe once they've worked out the issues. Definitely has potential.
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Man look at some of those reviews...I really want to like/try this app, but not for $10.00 at this stage. Maybe once they've worked out the issues. Definitely has potential.
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For $10 its way over priced. The amount of widgets is so small that it doesn't justify the cost.
10 bucks, what is that?? All those overpricing comments makes me wonder, who are writing these comments..?
Who that can afford a prime, but not an app with the price of a frozen pizza?
Well I can honestly say that its worth it, yes the app is still going through its teething phase, its just come out of beta, but there's been some huge improvements since the beginning and their support has been top notch. I backed the project via Kick starter, hence I've been playing with it since the first beta release. A whole lot of new widgets are inbound very soon and I particularly like the "Make a widget" widget, it allows you to specify a particular URL to keep track of a particular website, this is excluding the browser specific widget that should be coming soon.
$10 might seem costly for an app, especially one that is still hasn't got all of its features yet, but definitely worth looking at in the near future when they've worked out all the kinks and added some more useful widgets
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10 bucks, what is that?? All those overpricing comments makes me wonder, who are writing these comments..?
Who that can afford a prime, but not an app with the price of a frozen pizza?
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It's not about being able to afford $10 bucks, but what you're getting for that $10 bucks. If an app isn't worth $10 bucks then it's not worth $10 bucks. The reviews speak for themselves about the quality of the experience you're getting for that $10 bucks. Like I said before it has potential to be worth that amount but currently it just isn't at this point. Barely cracking a 3 out of a 5 start rating when I can easily see many of the other launchers are offering a better experience (nova launcher, go launcher, apex launcher, etc) at a much lower price. Granted, none of those launcher are being as ambitious as the chameleon launcher is trying to be, but it's not an excuse to say this launcher is worth $10 at this level. I actually really liked the idea of chameleon launcher and still do. It's just not ready for prime time yet.
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10 bucks, what is that?? All those overpricing comments makes me wonder, who are writing these comments..?
Who that can afford a prime, but not an app with the price of a frozen pizza?
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Feel free to send me $10 then if its nothing to you. But seriously would you spend ten bucks to have all the widgets you already have for free? For my purposes I'm not going to spend 10 bucks for 1. a complete launcher replacement that doesnt have 3/4 of the widgets I currently use. 2. An incomplete product. If this was final and it had all the bells and whistles...fine, 10 bucks...take my money. But its not there yet.
Seriously you'd pay $10 for a frozen pizza? You sir do not know good pizza.
I think that a lot of the bad reviews are from when the app was initially put up on Play. It was available to the public, but it would only authenticate for people who had supported the project on Kickstarter. A lot of other people downloaded it and were pissed that they couldn't get it to work, even though it was clearly stated that it was only for the Kickstarter supporters.
Personally, I think it's got a bit of distance to cover before it is perfect, but it's totally usable at this point. I've been using it as my daily driver launcher for the past few days, and it's working great. The new widgets should be coming soon, and there are several developers working on additional widgets that will be available outside of the normal Chameleon pantheon.
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I think that a lot of the bad reviews are from when the app was initially put up on Play. It was available to the public, but it would only authenticate for people who had supported the project on Kickstarter. A lot of other people downloaded it and were pissed that they couldn't get it to work, even though it was clearly stated that it was only for the Kickstarter supporters.
Personally, I think it's got a bit of distance to cover before it is perfect, but it's totally usable at this point. I've been using it as my daily driver launcher for the past few days, and it's working great. The new widgets should be coming soon, and there are several developers working on additional widgets that will be available outside of the normal Chameleon pantheon.
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If you sort the comments by date, you can see they mostly are from the last couple of days.
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Chameleon for Tablets is on sale in the market for $3.99 today, 60% off.
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As an early backer I am pleased to see someone has finally seen some sense. IMO this is a fine launcher and totally unique in that it fully utilizes the real estate available to tablets like ours. It has big potential too in the way the widgets have been opened up to to community development.
Unfortunately, someone high up in their organization got greedy and launched a semi-finished product at a ridiculous price that was only ever going to generate negative feedback and few sales.
Let's hope it's not too late to rescue what is a very fine project.
PS a myth that really needs knocking on the head is the one that says it only works with its own widgets. This is just not true. For some time now Android widgets work just fine within the Chameleon framework :good:.
Aww..missed the sale
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Aww..missed the sale
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No you haven't. It's at that price indefinitely :good:.
I bought this launcher at the new price to support the project as well.
This launcher does have a long way to go as compared with some of the free launchers available.
I do like the look but hope for more than just twelve chameleon widgets. Android widgets did work but don't always look right.
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It looks great.. Much work to do..
Both the Twitter and Facebook widget should be improved. In the Twitter widget the tweets sometimes doesn't show (some does) before many seconds later. The text sometimes doubble up.
And in both those widgets it should be a option to post a tweet/meesage without starting, for me TweetCaster and the browser. It should also be able to see comments etc.
The Calender widget doesn't work for me??
And Android widget do work, but not properly as mention above..
Apart from this, it works fine. Get more widgets and improve those allready there..
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JUST My opinion
Chameleon videos where shown when they where trying to get people to donate to the project. Man I thought they where the bomb. I was really wanting to get my hands on it. Then we got what we paid for I couldn't believe it was so lamb! I felt like I had been taken! With all the updates that have been sent I have been hopeful every time and every time I have been disappointed. This is still one of the worst launchers on the market. I agree it has potential but now the update and changes have all but stopped. This app takes away the freedom to make the prime what you want and is only allowed to be what the developers want it to be. I know some will not like what I say but I paid the money and feel I have the right to speak on my experiences. So sorry if I offend you with my lame review but fact it they need to do ALLOT of work to make this thing passable. So bottom line don't buy it until you look at ALL reviews of it not just one.
Does the team still plan on updating? If so any hopes that it will live up to it's potential and hype?
for s4 I think I'll give it a go
after aboout two days i came to the realization that i just wasted 10 bucks. I uninstalled it. Hopefully their next project will be better since they have all our money to fund it.
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I believe this belongs in this section because it potentially involves a whole new UI not only for the Vibrant but for Andoid as a whole.. if im mistaken my apologies and please move to the right section..
per AndoidSpin
http://androidspin.com/2010/11/18/full-3d-ui-coming-to-android-sorry-adw-i-might-just-switch/
"We all love eye candy when it comes to how our devices looks and feels when we are using it. HTC Sense UI has been one of the most visually appealing UIs to date in my opinion. Some have loved Motoblur and even Touch Wiz. If none of those appealed to you then you probably moved on to Launcher Pro, ADWLauncher, Home++ or one a few others that do exist. I think any of us with a higher end device are ready to unleash its true graphical power. Why not also make it useful and extremely customizable right?
SPB Mobile Shell 5.0 is on the horizon. If you are unfamiliar with SPB Mobile Shell,then you may not have ever owned a powerful Windows Mobile device. Previous versions of this software were religiously used by users of the HD2. Not only was it a more functional UI for the device but it also solved oodles of freezing and lag issues that people were experiencing.
You may have already seen the demo of the this software. As we all know though, new Android users are added daily and deserve a look into what is coming. Here is a short video of the new SPB Mobile Shell 5.0. I still can’t locate a launch date unfortunately. As soon as I find out I will be sure announce it for everyone. I am really looking forward to this software.
Do you think this will replace your current launcher?"
You can sign up for beta testing here.
http://www.spb.com/beta
Already threw my hat (and my Vibrant) into the ring. Looks fairly interesting. Can't wait to see how its features compare to ADW.
looks cool but no way in hell would i pay freaking 30 bucks for that jesus thats retarded
Thanks for heads up, just signed up for beta. Test yes, buy, no...
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looks cool but no way in hell would i pay freaking 30 bucks for that jesus thats retarded
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Besides the childish references to unfortunate birth defects and Christian divinity; $30. 00 is crazy high for this platform. For $3.99 I get launcher pro, for $1 got SwiftKey after beta. I used SBP on PPC to Win Mo. It was very good.
This better be better than God.
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Besides the childish references to unfortunate birth defects and Christian divinity; $30. 00 is crazy high for this platform. For $3.99 I get launcher pro, for $1 got SwiftKey after beta. I used SBP on PPC to Win Mo. It was very good.
U must not have seen the video of it hands on its worth $100 dollars easy watch the video
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12paq said:
Besides the childish references to unfortunate birth defects and Christian divinity; $30. 00 is crazy high for this platform. For $3.99 I get launcher pro, for $1 got SwiftKey after beta. I used SBP on PPC to Win Mo. It was very good.
U must not have seen the video of it hands on its worth $100 dollars easy watch the video
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are you kidding me?! 30 dollars is too much just for this.
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That is how much I paid for mine when I had windows mobile phone. For their work, it is worth it. They take their time to design the best mobile UI in my opinion. Do we say futuristic??? I love this new UI, can't wait for it.
this UI has always been this price.
I remember back in WinMo.
one of the highest selling apps too.
I would love to test this out, my main concern on it is battery life. I am currently going through issues with Launcher Pro sucking the life out of my phone. I can only imagine what this will do.
Oh and my employee just ask me what was wrong cause I had tears in my eyes. I was laughing so hard at:
Besides the childish references to unfortunate birth defects and Christian divinity
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Thanks for heads up, just signed up for beta. Test yes, buy, no...
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lol agreed..
I had spb 3.5 on my touch pro 2 and loved it can't wait for 5.0 for android I'm all over it me want it lol
I'm in the price is not so high
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I'm in the price is not so high
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Where does it mention price?
SPB 3.5 is listed at $29.95
I don't think this app would go anywhere if they intend to charge more than $4
So finaly got to try the beta SPB Mobile Shell and it looks very very cool. It's going to get some getting used to, as it's quite different from any other launcher... I'm going to test it in more detail tomorrow morning and then email SPB my feedback!
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So finaly got to try the beta SPB Mobile Shell and it looks very very cool. It's going to get some getting used to, as it's quite different from any other launcher... I'm going to test it in more detail tomorrow morning and then email SPB my feedback!
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Nice, they deleted my thread ha, spb complained apparently. It is really nice just needs to be sped up and hog less memory imo
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Looks cool, but I wouldn't pay more than ten dollars for it.
I had this on my older phones it was a great UI but still not worth the cash, signed up for the beta just to see how nice it is on Andriod
Ok so I've been running SPB mobile shell over nero3 with black froyo and I like it very much. It'd be nice to discuss it more here with other beta testers but I'm not sure how the devs would take to that so I won't. But I will say that this a great home alt and I am excited to partake in beta testing it.
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I didn't make the cut for the beta apparently. But to be honest, I'm not all that worried about it if it's gonna cost anywhere near $30. That's the biggest mistake they'll make. Not only will their sales be far lower than they could be, but they could pack that .apk full of DRM and defensive measures but it would be cracked in no time. Then everyone will just download it for free. You gotta be realistic in this market, I don't care how innovative your UI is.
Just curious how people feel who have played with them a few days.
If android never comes, are you happy with the device as is? Is the current crop of apps and the OS not sufficient and you bought it only with the hopes of android?
Do you like the existing OS and if android is never ported would you still be happy with your purchase?
I think for 99/149 I don't see many complainers but just curious what people think who've had the device a few days.
I have had it a few hours and I am very happy, the few thins i really want my tablet to do it is do wonderfully, even more happy than my Nook Color on CM7. honeycomb on the NC might be nicer, but until a HC port comes to touchpad i doubt i'll put android on it.
If no android then its ****. I don't like the webos. ANDROID is farrrrrrrrr better.
I agree that android is so much better.. one thing that would make this thing collect dust on my desk is the lack of apps.. I must admit that i did get it mainly for the potential of an android port. I am of no help porting android but if that doesn't happen relatively soon then I think it will be on eBay..
I have a question for those that may be more familiar with webos... when i am listening to music and plug my headphones in, it still plays the music on the speakers and my headphones, which as you know defeats one of the main purposes of headphones.. LOL is it a bug or intended?
I really like it, I think webos makes more sense on a tablet than android currently does, but that's imho. Its a shame they dumbled in the beginning of the os game, it could've been something special. Inductive charging is really cool, I misses that after I got rid of my pre and its cool to have it back. I'm surprised more devices don't have it. The tp isn't great for app happy people, but out of the hundreds of appa I've tried on ansroid I only use 3 or 4 of them regularly ans the tp's internet ia more than capable of replacing some of them.
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For what I paid and what limitations they inherently have, I couldn't justify paying more than $150 with any OS on it. I'd like to see some more games on the WebOS side but at $150 I'm happy with it and it wouldn't be worth any substantial money to have more.
Even if Android doesn't come, I am happy with my purchase. I really like the way a lot of things work in webOS. But I will replace the OS with android if it gets a polished build.
Even if you only use the touchpad as a digital picture frame, you can't get one with this size and quality of screen for $99.
For what I paid and what limitations they inherently have, I couldn't justify paying more than $150 with any OS on it.
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You wouldn't pay more than 150 even if it had android on it? Say it was an official android device and it was 200 bucks. You wouldn't think that was a deal?
Like it so far the audio is great.
Mine is sitting quietly in my office, waiting for someone to work some magic with Android. I've played around with webOS for a few hours but that got boring fast. This is my first tablet purchase and even at the firesale price I'm not impressed. I see little use for tablets beyond being a source of occasional entertainment for people with money to burn.
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i manage to get two 32gb,
i give one to my wife with the intent to keep it stock webos and the other for me to play and maybe flash android one day.
i love android ,but 115 british pounds for a capacitor screen with a browser that support flash,a decent email client,photos and video playing,music sound good(due to the thickness of the tablet i think the speakers take advantage of that),just a bit heavy.
what there is to don't like.??
definitely not a 400pounds worth,but definitely 115.
don't forget the nice 50gb free cloud space that comes with it.
thumb up for me.
So far, I love my decision to purchase it. I picked two up, one for me and one for the girlfriend. WebOS is very smooth and looks amazing but needs some more apps which could come with the huge influx of Touchpads. I will be looking forward to an android port just to mess around with it and decided which to keep.
I've currently applied a few speed patches and have it overclocked to 1.5GHz and it flies.
I feel like the screen clarity sucks. I have never used a tablet before, except a brief use of a ipad during a checkout, but the touchpad screen looks blurry to me. It remind me of the old school color screen nextel phones i95.
I've had it for almost a day now. Very happy after I finally got the patch installed, it's pretty ridiculous to have to click the thing 20 times to get the patch to finish.
When I bought it I had fully intended to flash android when it's ported, but now I think I'm going to stick with webos for quite a while. There's nothing that I really miss from the Nook Color so far, and webos has a far better browser and keyboard than android.
I bought one and ordered another (that I hope will someday arrive). After playing with this one for a few days... I wish I had bought a few more.
Yeah, app catalog is lacking, but as a previous poster said, $100-150 for a 9.7" capacitive, snappy internet slate is awesome. I'd love to permanently mount one in the kitchen for recipes and whatnot, and replace the "family calendar".
Can anyone comment on the readability of PDFs on the Touchpad? That is the primary reason I would be buying this to supplement my nook color.
The NC is perfect for everything except finance/accounting/technical PDFs , for which I'm hoping the 10" screen of Touchpad would be better?
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I agree that android is so much better.. one thing that would make this thing collect dust on my desk is the lack of apps.. I must admit that i did get it mainly for the potential of an android port. I am of no help porting android but if that doesn't happen relatively soon then I think it will be on eBay..
I have a question for those that may be more familiar with webos... when i am listening to music and plug my headphones in, it still plays the music on the speakers and my headphones, which as you know defeats one of the main purposes of headphones.. LOL is it a bug or intended?
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Same thing happened to me when I plugged in my beats by Dre solo hds.. did the software update and problem was eliminated..
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Proud owner its still in the unopened box, haven't had time to open it and get into it enjoyably.Plan to keep it stock Web OS, I owned a palm pre and enjoyed it. I still believe Web OS is underrated and some users don't see the brilliance of it. I would have paid more if I had to. But the idea of flashing anything on it talks to the flashing geek in me haha. I would be more interested in flashing window 7 on it (not sure if it's a option) just saying.
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Can anyone comment on the readability of PDFs on the Touchpad? That is the primary reason I would be buying this to supplement my nook color.
The NC is perfect for everything except finance/accounting/technical PDFs , for which I'm hoping the 10" screen of Touchpad would be better?
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the built in app is decent at PDFs
I'm actually surprised by how much I like mine. I have a honeycomb tablet, also, and the hp is actually very enjoyable to use. It definitely lacks in expandability, since the app catalogue is def smaller, but I actually like it a lot.
That being said, definitely not worth the original price. 150$ (32gb) maybe.... we'll see in a few weeks.
after a string of cancelled orders, I decided to just suck it up and buy one from CL. I paid about 40$ over tax+shipping but it's worth not having to deal with shopping around while at work. I'm much more productive and I actually have my toy in my hands.
That being said I'm keeping my eyes open for a 16gb for my daughter to play with, hopefully HP SMB will have some more tomorrow.
well, my order of 4 from cpw came today, and I was going to get rid of spares and keep one if I thought they were no good (compared to all the tablets I have (Ipads,galaxy tabs, transformer, wierd brands etc) for dev purposes btw). But, omg, webOs so far is quite nice, the device aint too bad either. So going to give 3 to friends and family and keep 1 to play with. Downloading SDK as I type and had a quick read.
So, after not minding the hardware at all, and thinking that as a 1st pass young tablet webos is probably better than androids attempt, add to the fact that the SDK from reading (not use) looks to be even better than android......
Some1 remind me again, why did this thing fail? Just price? if thats the case, £299 would have made this and ensuing development a killer? Or am I missing some big point here?
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Cost, immature software, lack of features, small developer ecosphere, late to market, tons of competition...
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Cost, immature software, lack of features, small developer ecosphere, late to market, tons of competition...
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baring the last two, that true of any os that has just come to market
Shame me thinks
It fails because it is one of the most expensive, heaviest, thickest, and has the least features (no back camera, not way to connect USB/SD memory card...) and least tablet apps. Coming late in the game HP should have done a better job...no excuse. HP designed the tablet poorly...consumers are not stupid like them...very disappointed in in HP. Whoever design/engineer/market the Touchpad should be fired....such a waste of resources. Guess it's worth $99, at least they priced it correctly now.
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It the nail right on the head, but I think it's mainly because of the price. Apple has some one figured out a way of brain washing people to buy everything they put out at any price. Other companies haven't figured it out so until they do they need to figure out how to get the cost down on tablets. Could imagine the frenzy over the Galaxy 10.1 if it would have been priced 199 or 299?
The HP tab fire sale proves there is a market for the Tab but just not at the price they are bouncing around.
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baring the last two, that true of any os that has just come to market
Shame me thinks
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Granted, but webOS didn't come to market with the Touchpad - it's been out for several years. It was a very buggy platform from all the reading I've done, and there was still a fair number of issues even after the last patch was released (just go look at PreCentral).
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It the nail right on the head, but I think it's mainly because of the price. Apple has some one figured out a way of brain washing people to buy everything they put out at any price. Other companies haven't figured it out so until they do they need to figure out how to get the cost down on tablets. Could imagine the frenzy over the Galaxy 10.1 if it would have been priced 199 or 299?
The HP tab fire sale proves there is a market for the Tab but just not at the price they are bouncing around.
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Price was probably the biggest factor. It was more expensive than most any other tablet for less capability and less compatibility. For example, licking it down to print only to HP printers or tether to HP/Palm phones? Ridiculous.
It's sort of amazing the position Apple is in now given how bad off they were in the late 80s and 90s. Really sucked being a Mac user back then (haven't been a Mac user since then though).
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Price was probably the biggest factor. It was more expensive than most any other tablet for less capability and less compatibility. For example, licking it down to print only to HP printers or tether to HP/Palm phones? Ridiculous.
It's sort of amazing the position Apple is in now given how bad off they were in the late 80s and 90s. Really sucked being a Mac user back then (haven't been a Mac user since then though).
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well, I agree (Being a 3D artist myself) that the design is a little off, but I do like the form factor of these (and obviously my iPad) and that factor suits my development plans for tablets more than my transformer or indeed any of my 10inch tablets.
I would be in heaven even with the weight and cribb design if this was an android unit with the same UI features etc at a £250 price point.
I personally think this device and OS had great potential for a tablet, but like you say, if the palm devices showed lots of buggs, maybe hp could have never sorted it with the team they had. Still say shame though
Pretty much failed because the general populations definition of a tablet is the iPad. Like others said, price and too many competitors. After a couple of days with my Touchpad, and some tweaking, I like it. I am impressed with webOS.
But I feel bad for the poor souls who bought this thing from the get-go for 500 bucks because performance wise it has it's hiccups for no reason. Notice some lag sometimes for no reason and delays when trying to do simple things. I feel like the auto rotate is too sensitive as well.
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Pretty much failed because the general populations definition of a tablet is the iPad. Like others said, price and too many competitors. After a couple of days with my Touchpad, and some tweaking, I like it. I am impressed with webOS.
But I feel bad for the poor souls who bought this thing from the get-go for 500 bucks because performance wise it has it's hiccups for no reason. Notice some lag sometimes for no reason and delays when trying to do simple things. I feel like the auto rotate is too sensitive as well.
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Have you installed preware and in turn the log diable stuff, speed stuff and the OMG it's now way too loud sound mod!
what.....I'm deff!
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well, my order of 4 from cpw came today, and I was going to get rid of spares and keep one if I thought they were no good (compared to all the tablets I have (Ipads,galaxy tabs, transformer, wierd brands etc) for dev purposes btw). But, omg, webOs so far is quite nice, the device aint too bad either. So going to give 3 to friends and family and keep 1 to play with. Downloading SDK as I type and had a quick read.
So, after not minding the hardware at all, and thinking that as a 1st pass young tablet webos is probably better than androids attempt, add to the fact that the SDK from reading (not use) looks to be even better than android......
Some1 remind me again, why did this thing fail? Just price? if thats the case, £299 would have made this and ensuing development a killer? Or am I missing some big point here?
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so to say it just sucks is not what the op is looking for.
The unit itself is amazing. I have been a die hard android fan with my hd2 but the ui of this tablet is extremely functional. Having multiple frames for apps makes this an amazing item for me. The keyboard is very easy to use and the quality of the item is A+. Like many others I would like the android market but webOS. Two big things for me is the memory expansion and no hdmi out but I will live. If I were to release this product I would say 299 and 399 would be fair.
I think the price is the only reason it failed. From using the xoom and iPad I find this, minus the features listed above, to be the better unit. $99 is an amazing deal for this great piece of machinary.
Here's one reason:
"Rubinstein wasn't exactly thrilled about the timing of the TouchPad's release, saying CEO Leo Apotheker had failed to make good on a public promise to ship the tablet only when it was "perfect."
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I think a bigger issue deals with consumer education about a new OS. The transition from an android phone to an android tablet or an iphone to an iPad is seamless WebOS phones had a miniscule market share. WebOS came to market late in the game. It took an incredible price on the TP to get consumers to take the leap to a new platform. Now that they are here they may like what they see.
It failed for one simple reason. The OS and apps weren't ready and weren't polished. I think the hardware is amazing, save for the volume rocker and the super thin "home" button and maybe the screen which apparently generates its own fingerprints and smudges out of thin air. The OS on the other hand has so much potential but they completely screwed it. If I had purchased this at anything over 150, which is what I paid for the 32gb, I would return it or sell it.
Take this one example. The browser doesn't load pages in the background. If you load a new card like you would a tab and return to the original browser card, the new one just sits there and does . . . nothing. Doesn't load or render the webpage. It just sits there like a bookmark to the site you wanted to load. I mean seriously? This is like iPad1 crap, which was solved in like a couple weeks with third party browsers. With 4 times the ram, for some reason WebOS doesn't find it necessary even without a single other app loaded on a fresh boot to actually load the card in the background. The way I browse the web is to load a trillion tabs and then go through them and read. That would be absolutely excruciating on the Touchpad.
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It failed for one simple reason. The OS and apps weren't ready and weren't polished.
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About the same as the 1st Galaxy Tab P1000 android version
The OS on the other hand has so much potential but they completely screwed it. If I had purchased this at anything over 150, which is what I paid for the 32gb, I would return it or sell it.
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over 150 ? Bit harsh I think. From a development perspective, software is never finished, you just get to a point where you either HAVE to release or it's ACCEPTABLE to release.
Take this one example. The browser doesn't load pages in the background. If you load a new card like you would a tab and return to the original browser card, the new one just sits there and does . . . nothing. Doesn't load or render the webpage. It just sits there like a bookmark to the site you wanted to load. I mean seriously? This is like iPad1 crap, which was solved in like a couple weeks with third party browsers. With 4 times the ram, for some reason WebOS doesn't find it necessary even without a single other app loaded on a fresh boot to actually load the card in the background.
The way I browse the web is to load a trillion tabs and then go through them and read. That would be absolutely excruciating on the Touchpad.
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I dont actually think thats a representation of the average user. I maybe open 7 tabs on a pc, I sure they would have put in background loading eventually.
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Pretty much failed because the general populations definition of a tablet is the iPad. Like others said, price and too many competitors. After a couple of days with my Touchpad, and some tweaking, I like it. I am impressed with webOS.
But I feel bad for the poor souls who bought this thing from the get-go for 500 bucks because performance wise it has it's hiccups for no reason. Notice some lag sometimes for no reason and delays when trying to do simple things. I feel like the auto rotate is too sensitive as well.
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this is exactly why it failed. Why do you have to tweak it for it to work smoothly. It should be like that out the box
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this is exactly why it failed. Why do you have to tweak it for it to work smoothly. It should be like that out the box
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name a tablet product other than ipad (ios) that at release was like what you wanted, smooth out of the box, cause I cant think of one?
Honestly I don't think it failed because of the OS the majority of people out there are absolutely clueless as to what the difference android/ios and web OS brings when I recommend android phones to people nearly all of them haven't got a clue what I'm on about there more interested in if it can download apps. I personally think its more to do with marketing and more important price(why pay 399 for a unknown hp tablet when you can pay 399 for a apple ipad) people have to understand that the majority of consumers are near clueless about tech,ive gad so many people pick up android tabs asking if this is the ipad lol
I think you have to go way back to the palm pre for the answer. Great OS. Not a bad spec phone for the time. But Sprint was the exclusive carrier and didn't do jack to promote it. So everyone was seeing iPhone this and Droid that. No one was hearing about webOS until it was in the news that they were broke and hp was buying them. That's my opinion anyway. I have a palm pre(in a desk) have an evo (daily driver) and I hands down would take webOS on the evo hardware any day.
Everyone thinks this tablet has failed, if that's the case then why did a million people buy it? I know it's cheap compared to the iPad but with over a millions users this tablet should take off and be a big competitor with Apple. Maybe that was the intention all along, think how much HP saved on marketing, plus all the revenue they could get from some many users.
Give it a few months, Webos will be rocking the tablet world!
I saw this on pulse in an android section. I thought it was ridiculous. shows how ignorant isheep are. I guess $500 for a tablet plus 150 for a dock is cheap. Also there are android phones that cost way more than the iphone.
http://www.cultofmac.com/158610/che...elitists-making-fun-of-android-instagrammers/
Does this surprise you?
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I saw those articles. lmfao just goes to show how childish alot of IOS users are. they are hating the fact that Android has Instagram now. Android flood of instagram users will overtake apple users in a short period of time. Android has way larger user base. I got it on my Atrix. haven't really tried it out yet. seems like a bunch of b.s. really. so i want to see what the hype is over. I hope its not just some dumb filters as I've had those and more alot longer on android in general. seems like some kind of picture sharing thing mostly between users. overrated IMO.
also funny is how the most popular iPhone model is the free 3gs iPhone offered by at&t. lol. how can we be poor if they using a free phone..lol
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I saw this on pulse in an android section. I thought it was ridiculous. shows how ignorant isheep are. I guess $500 for a tablet plus 150 for a dock is cheap. Also there are android phones that cost way more than the iphone.
http://www.cultofmac.com/158610/che...elitists-making-fun-of-android-instagrammers/
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lol...what a fun read. Thanks for the link.
I'll not get too worried due to this. Only hipsters use Instagram and think they are "real" photographers. Yeah right.
In fact, no self respecting Android user will and should use Instagram. Camera360 beats it any day, anyway. Instagram is for spoiled brats and hipsters who think android owners live in a ghetto and live on food stamps.
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I'll not get too worried due to this. Only hipsters use Instagram and think they are "real" photographers. Yeah right.
In fact, no self respecting Android user will and should use Instagram. Camera360 beats it any day, anyway. Instagram is for spoiled brats and hipsters who think android owners live in a ghetto and live on food stamps.
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never knew "real photographers" use iphones insead on full DLSR cameras. going to have to get rid on my sony a55 now. And maybe with that money i will be able to buy diner tonight because i am out a food stamps. lol
This is horrible. What pisses me off the most about Apple is that they outsource their manufacturing and claim that it is to keep the cost of their product down, yet I believe they have the highest priced devices. Secondly they create a standard for the outrageously priced devices when they could EASILY shave 30 to 40 percent of the price on ALL of their mobile products if not ALL of them products. And, what's the worst part of all is that the mobile market is exponentially growing, meaning the two grand you dropped on your current phone/tablet setup will be obsolete in 3 to 6 months. Rather than really fine tune a product, they continually shell out new devices with "better" specs. Kinda ridiculous the way they produce products, even Android is guilty of this. It's bad for the consumer, but great for the companies. I mean why create a solid product that stays current for at least a year when you can make devices obsolete after three months which in turn will guarantee that at least a greater percentage of consumers will repurchase the newest devices at a quicker pace. Whatever happened to companies providing what is best for the consumer and not what makes the most amount of money in the shorted amount of time!
Oh well, it is what it is. Before you know it there will be an entirely new type of gadget out that replaces the smart phone/tablet all together and then the cycle repeats but with higher prices and shorter device life spans. Actually, to be honest, I am suprised that we aren't forced into purchasing firmware upgrades... Hmm, maybe I shouldn't of said that, I could totally see a CEO reading this post and going ZOMG GREAT IDEA $50 to update your device!
In any event, kudos to Cult of Mac for reporting on this, given that they're describing a large part of their own audience.
Ever jealous of being behind I see.
even if the iPad3 would cost half of the prime i wouldnt buy it.
man i hate the apple ecosystem and its hipster fanboys!
and whats up with the 'professional' photo-editing lol..
buy a real cam for that !
We didn't get Instagram, we got an emulator for the magical phone. Now we can carry all that smug self-importance in our pocket whenever we want to feel rich. 2 stars though because the voice recognition sucked and the photo filters made me feel ironic.
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I am not going to read that article...
But I do have to say that when people buy an iPhone, they don't just buy a phone. They buy into a highly proprietary culture that promotes thoughtless spending.
Android? Well just comparing how easy it is to get refunds for purchases on Play vs App Store should give us all a good idea.
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We didn't get Instagram, we got an emulator for the magical phone. Now we can carry all that smug self-importance in our pocket whenever we want to feel rich. 2 stars though because the voice recognition sucked and the photo filters made me feel ironic.
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LOL! That is funny!
Social media really brings out the stupid in people. We used to think about something before sharing it with the world but now people share it with the world before thinking about it. It is because there always seems to be an audience (the internet) available. This is not the only case. (Incoming Hunger Games Spoiler) A while ago when the Grammys were on there was the whole "I would let Chris Brown beat me any day" tweets. Then when the Hunger Games movie came out there was the whole "I don't feel so bad about Rue anymore after finding out she was black".
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even if the iPad3 would cost half of the prime i wouldnt buy it.
man i hate the apple ecosystem and its hipster fanboys!
and whats up with the 'professional' photo-editing lol..
buy a real cam for that !
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Same here couldn't have said it better!
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Who cares what a bunch of iDiots think?
I'm sure you'll all enjoy my comment on the article.
Master race transformer prime/htc one x owner reporting in. What's it like still using a dual core device guys? I mean I have pictures from 2006 but I'm sure you all could refresh my memory with your pictures from your lower resolution cameras on your redundant 'retina' displays?
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lol all their rage right now.
What I get from this is Apple users blindly buy apps and hope they work for what they want it to do (As there is no refund). With Android I'm going to look for the free app if i'm looking for a specific function. If it does it well, then It might entice me to look into the paid version to see what extras you get if you pay for it. There are a lot of crap apps, and you kinda have to test them all to find the best one that works for you. It's annoying when there are no free apps on Apple to test what you want to do, and if the app you bought isn't what you thought it was or has problems, you can't refund. Sucks!
I really hate waking up, reading a thread and finding out Im poor.
I really need to talk to the IRS and get my 30 sum thousand dollars I sent them last year back.. do they not know Im poor?!?
What else can the Apple gods tell me??
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This is horrible. What pisses me off the most about Apple is that they outsource their manufacturing and claim that it is to keep the cost of their product down, yet I believe they have the highest priced devices. Secondly they create a standard for the outrageously priced devices when they could EASILY shave 30 to 40 percent of the price on ALL of their mobile products if not ALL of them products. And, what's the worst part of all is that the mobile market is exponentially growing, meaning the two grand you dropped on your current phone/tablet setup will be obsolete in 3 to 6 months. Rather than really fine tune a product, they continually shell out new devices with "better" specs. Kinda ridiculous the way they produce products, even Android is guilty of this. It's bad for the consumer, but great for the companies. I mean why create a solid product that stays current for at least a year when you can make devices obsolete after three months which in turn will guarantee that at least a greater percentage of consumers will repurchase the newest devices at a quicker pace. Whatever happened to companies providing what is best for the consumer and not what makes the most amount of money in the shorted amount of time!
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Apple has kept a pretty consistent 1 year release schedule. Also why would you expect a company to lower their prices when they are selling their products as fast as they can? They arn't charities.
I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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You can attach a keyboard. Buy a bluetooth keyboard. It'll hook right up in less than a minute.
I can't guarantee the quality of this thing, but bluetooth keyboard cases exist.
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Keyboard-Tablet-Leather-Function/dp/B009Z3OY6Y/ref=pd_sbs_pc_12
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I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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http://amzn.com/B0054L8N7M
1 example. Search "Bluetooth Tablet Keyboard" on Amazon or whatever your site of preference is for others.
Nice...I hope by DEC 26 I'll be able to get it in Toronto.
Let's say I have a document open is it easy to highlight with my fingers ? Nexus 7 is attractive but with 1gb of Ram I just can't ponder it. And battery life ? Decent ?
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e Nexus 7 is a powerful enough device with 1gb RAM which only sounds insufficient due to the 2gb devices that have come out(nexus 10). You could also consider the Asus Transformer series as you can get a keyboard dock with a built in battery and a full sized USB port, also a micro SD card slot but you won't get the vanilla android experience and timely updates like you will on the Nexus. It depends on what you prefer. Hope that helped.
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I am a uni student and I need a nice tablet to make notes, record lectures, and read documents with. I am into games too but barely have time to play. I want something that will be useful two years from now. I am big on performance and graphics.
With no potential to attach a keyboard, is it really worth the money for a student ? How long will it take before this becomes out dated ?
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Most tablets don't have specific keyboard attachments made by the manufacturer; Asus is the exception, if you think you need a keyboard, check out the Transformer series of tablets. I owned an Asus Tf700 tablet w/ the keyboard dock and IMO found the keyboard too small for accurate/quick typing. Instead, I use a Wacom Bamboo stylus and digitally "handwrite" my notes using two apps; 7Notes & Evernote. 7Notes is a keyboard replacement for handwriting text and actively converts your writing to typed text; in combo w/ Evernote, I love it. At the end of the day I have clean, organized & typed notes saved in the cloud on my Evernote account.
Me? I have a laptop w/ normal sized keyboard for typing; I bought my tablet for just that..a tablet lol.
My reasons for getting the N10:
- Pure Google/Android experience & almost instant updates. (2 yrs use is absolutely achievable w/ a Nexus device)
- Great specs & design doesn't look anything like an iPad + the display is gorgeous.
- And of course school; this includes taking notes as I'm also a college student.
Also, Highlighting text is pretty straight forward & easy for copy/paste actions.
I said to 1gb referring to the nexus 7. And using Bluetooth as a keyboard would kill battery. I'm on my phone will get to my desktop soon and research. I love the bonus power from the Asus tho.
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I have the exact same requirement too. I plan on reading docs, books, making notes and watch movies/tv shows occasionally. I plan on getting the nexus 10 seeing as it has the best screen res amongst all android tablets, thereby making reading books like harrisons medicine more convenient.
That being said, I will probably sell the N10 and order a Note 10.1 2 with a full HD display the moment it becomes available(at some point in the future). From what I've seen, the productivity on a note is unparallelled amongst android tabs.
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I have the exact same requirement too. I plan on reading docs, books, making notes and watch movies/tv shows occasionally. I plan on getting the nexus 10 seeing as it has the best screen res amongst all android tablets, thereby making reading books like harrisons medicine more convenient.
That being said, I will probably sell the N10 and order a Note 10.1 2 with a full HD display the moment it becomes available(at some point in the future). From what I've seen, the productivity on a note is unparallelled amongst android tabs.
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True ... Hopefully I can get $320 when I sell it.
Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Waiting game is hard, but be strong and wait till CES comes around. For a student, having a Wacom stylus is a must and N10 simply doesn't fit the bill. Like a previous poster said, lets hope they release higher-res followup to the Note.
May be just may be ASUS will wake up and add stylus to the Transformer line (TF1000 ?
The jury is out on Windows 8 RT - it is DOA ... darn shame, as MS Note is the best note taking app ever, period. Sammy has 2 Windows 8 tablet out (Ativs) out, but too many folx are complaining about quirky stylus, battery life doesn't even come close to android tablets or Ipad ... Surface Pro will suffer from the same short @ss battery life.
It is sad state of affairs in the tablet market, as far as students are concerned ... will probably take another year for the ultimate tablet to emerge.
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Waiting game is hard, but be strong and wait till CES comes around. For a student, having a Wacom stylus is a must and N10 simply doesn't fit the bill. Like a previous poster said, lets hope they release higher-res followup to the Note.
May be just may be ASUS will wake up and add stylus to the Transformer line (TF1000 ?
The jury is out on Windows 8 RT - it is DOA ... darn shame, as MS Note is the best note taking app ever, period. Sammy has 2 Windows 8 tablet out (Ativs) out, but too many folx are complaining about quirky stylus, battery life doesn't even come close to android tablets or Ipad ... Surface Pro will suffer from the same short @ss battery life.
It is sad state of affairs in the tablet market, as far as students are concerned ... will probably take another year for the ultimate tablet to emerge.
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Exactly..I plan on buying the N10 when I go to the US in Janary. I won't be taking it if there is an announcement of a new Note at CES(which is unlikely, considering its only been a couple of months since they brought out the Note).
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Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Battery life is fantastic. And in regards to "not enough apps for tablets", there's really nothing Google can do about that. That's up to app developers, not Google.
Not to mention, that Android tablets never reeall had the issues other tablets had.. most scale perfectly, and you wouldn't know they aren't for tablets (this goes for things like many games, web browsers, office aps, etc) . Those that do have problems are normally quick to get updates... frankly, the the issue is really overrated ..
I'm a student and I have been using it to study, although not take notes. I would not recommend this for taking notes because of the lack of the palm guard. Makes it very difficult and awkward to take notes on. As other posters have said, get the Galaxy Note 10.1 if you would like to take notes seriously. However, the Note 10.1 I ultimately decided against because the screen resolution got terrible reviews and I am huge on that, also the vanilla Android experience was too much for me to say no to. I really enjoy my Nexus 10 so far, and can get over the fact that there is no palm guard. Its a great device for the price overall
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Guys there are talks of not enough apps meant for tablets... What is Google doing about this ? And battery life.. how is it ?
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Google has been doing its best to try and motivate and encourage the developers to create more tablet optimized apps. Read this...
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-wants-to-see-better-tablet-apps/
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I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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If you don't think the N10 is worth $400, you have a rude awakening coming when you see how much comparable tablets are in the marketplace, especially ones with stylus support out of the box!
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I think I'm going to wait then.. since its only good for studying. No network connectivity is an issue too since most of the apps I use need the net. No stylus.. Sucks the N7 only has 1gb of Ram which means lag. No tab for me then.. at least for now. Screen reviews are amazing tho ...speed and screen size suggest longevity. Bluetooth keyboard is attractive but I'm not sold. No SD, and No Network. Hard to spend $400 plus on it.
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Is definitely hard to beat for many aspects but this tablet just isn't right for you, I can respect that although you may ultimately be displeased with other tablets for reasons that the nexus 10 excels in. I do think you ought to look into the note 10.1 if you are most concerned about note taking. Good luck finding the right gadget sir or madam
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