So, I'm a little confused about the bootloader situation. My tab is locked, and not rooted yet. To root, I flash CWM using Odin, then flash the root files in CWM, correct? And can I still flash roms, kernels, and themes with the locked bootloader?
yes thats correct !
when you flash the ROM you'll lose root but you just have to follow the little Odin + CWM process again to get root back [because the ROMs are not pre rooted (yet)]
So flash CWM, root, flash rom, flash CWM, root again?
Hello everyone. There is one thing that I'd like to know before going ahead and rooting my gs2 (cf kernel).
That kernel installs the CWM recovery. Assume that I'm on stock KI4 now, then root it. If a new fw is released, and I'd like to move to say KJ1 frankenstein from intra, how should I flash that? Should I still use the same procedure that I've always used until now (odin), or should I flash it via CWM?
Also, what are the impacts of moving to the newer fw? Do I lose root and also the CWM recovery?
Thanks,
TD
Anyone?...
Yes, CF-Root installs CWM recovery, Superuser and enables root. So it's a super easy thing to do and very convenient.
If you are rooted and is on KI4, moving to a non-rooted frankenstein build(that's what you wanted), you will definitely lose root because the firmware is stock.
So if you flashed a stock frankenstein build, you will lose root AND CWM(loosing CWM will give you the stock recovery, which doesn't do much). You would need to flash a rooted kernel(e.g. CF-Root) using Odin to regain root. Depending on the firmware also, sometimes your data is wiped.
To preserve root, I recommend you to flash a rooted custom ROM. VillainROM is good to start with because it is close to stock. The closest to stock in my opinion is to root it with CF-Root. Feel free to experiment with custom ROMs.
With rooted custom ROMs, you will stay rooted when you flash them VIA Clockworkmod revovery.
P.S. Be sure to always do a backup in case something goes wrong! Do a full ROM backup via CWM so if anything happens, you can just revert.
Maybe I'm wrong on this but I don't see why people have trouble with root access on a rom. I have just flashed the rom I want be it stock or otherwise and went into recovery and flashed the superuser zip and have root. Am I over simplifying this or is there something I don't get? From my experience if you have a non stock recovery you can get root. Does this not work on all roms?
Yuuuuup
So after scearching thousands of threads i understand everything about kernel, custom roms, stock roms.
Im trying to get all together like a puzzle.
Ony thing i want to know but can't find the answer anywhere on the internet.
I have custom recovery TWRP with root.
Is it possible to temporary unroot the device with OTA rootkeeper app, flash stock recovery and than restore root back with the app.
So i can download future update flawless.
Thanks!
Edit ----------------------------------
Just flashed stock recovery and kept root, no any rootkeep apps needed for this.
Basically i have a Hox+ with:
Stock rom
Stock recovery
Unlocked bootloader
Stock kernel
And root
Win!
I have trued to read and search the forums, but I haven't been able to figure a definitive answer to this...
When I flash CWM on my S2 using Odin, does it root the phone ?
I usually Root (with framaroot), Flash CWM, Flash CM 11 nightly, Re-root using framaroot.
But Can I just do : Flash CWM and Flash the CM 11 nightly ? does it auto root ?
What do you mean, 'usually'? Why is it that you can't just flash each new build of Cm11 from the previous one? Why do you need to re-root in the first place?
When I rooted my phone, rather than using a one-click such as framaroot, I flashed a kernel (siyah in my case) using Odin. That gave me CWM and root. That cuts out the step you're trying to to eliminate, if I've understood your question correctly?
I'm not sure in answer to your direct question, try it and see. Hopefully the alternative method I just gave you makes it a little quicker though
Edit : you could, if flashing CWM only doesn't give you root, just flash SuperSU from there and then continue.
Sent from a galaxy far, far away
Well mate your question is tricky to understand :cyclops:
1. NO installing CWM wont root your device requires another process (such a framaroot)
2. Aftrer installing CM 11 you dont have to re-root the mobile because CM comes prerooted with superuser !!
3. if you had already managed to install CM 11 think that you have already rooted your mobile
just for typing the 3 points my head spins in short no need for rooting after cm 11 ....and NO cwm wont root your device
thuva06 said:
Well mate your question is tricky to understand :cyclops:
1. NO installing CWM wont root your device requires another process (such a framaroot)
2. Aftrer installing CM 11 you dont have to re-root the mobile because CM comes prerooted with superuser !!
3. if you had already managed to install CM 11 think that you have already rooted your mobile
just for typing the 3 points my head spins in short no need for rooting after cm 11 ....and NO cwm wont root your device
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Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Why do I have to install CWM if I'm already rooted ? Can't I just framaroot then install CM 11 ?
Can I do a CWM, Cyanogen install without rooting ? Since CM already comes rooted. So jut CWM using odin, then CM install ROM. ?
Other question, Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?
Gregory48 said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Why do I have to install CWM if I'm already rooted ? Can't I just framaroot then install CM 11 ?
Can I do a CWM, Cyanogen install without rooting ? Since CM already comes rooted. So jut CWM using odin, then CM install ROM. ?
Other question, Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?
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CyanogenMod comes rooted. Also, the default recovery on CyanogenMod is CWM as well, so you can boot into recovery with volume up + home + power and flash a new build from there. You don't even need to use framaroot or flash CWM using Odin...
And yes, most (almost all) custom ROMs should come rooted unless you're flashing stock Samsung ROM through Odin. Besides, if you're flashing something in recovery, I don't think you need to be rooted.
Gregory48 said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Why do I have to install CWM if I'm already rooted ? Can't I just framaroot then install CM 11 ?
Can I do a CWM, Cyanogen install without rooting ? Since CM already comes rooted. So jut CWM using odin, then CM install ROM. ?
Other question, Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?
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Just to make sure that you understand everything i'm segregating your questions
1.Why do i install CWM when i'm already rooted?
Rooting is a process which just gives your overall control to your device, but just rooting wont make you eligible to flash any ROMS. Now when your install CWM (Clock Work Mod) its a unique type of recovery which enables your to flash Custom Roms. Your ordinary stock rom (your samsung firmware) also does have a recovery (stock recovery) which cannot penetrate into system files. So CWM is a must to flash roms !
Can i do a CWM and flash Cyanogenmod?
Absolutely NO!! Just because CM comes prerooted doesn't mean that you can flash CM without rooting.. CWM requires root to flash and change system files. For instance your are in Stock Samsung Firmware not rooted you just install CWM flash Cyanogenmod and you'll end up in a bootloop or softbrick. Since your system didnt allow files inside coz no ROOT!!..In the other hand if your already running Cyanogenmod (any version) you dont have to root nor flash CWM because they come prerooted and preinstalled with CWM.so you can flash on the go
Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?
Well cyanogenmod has an inbuilt function to disable root and most of the Roms comes with it now it can be found in settings >developer options> and root access...but not all roms im assuming. on the other hand yes some roms never come prerooted such as (omni rom 4.4.2) where you have to flash superuser to get root. But as i said incase of all prerooted roms there is an option to disable root
hope this helps you understand about rooting and cwm :good:
Thank you both for your answers, I understand much more now.
BUT
Last two answers are in conflict. They say the opposite.
which one to choose ?