A little information please ? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have trued to read and search the forums, but I haven't been able to figure a definitive answer to this...
When I flash CWM on my S2 using Odin, does it root the phone ?
I usually Root (with framaroot), Flash CWM, Flash CM 11 nightly, Re-root using framaroot.
But Can I just do : Flash CWM and Flash the CM 11 nightly ? does it auto root ?

What do you mean, 'usually'? Why is it that you can't just flash each new build of Cm11 from the previous one? Why do you need to re-root in the first place?
When I rooted my phone, rather than using a one-click such as framaroot, I flashed a kernel (siyah in my case) using Odin. That gave me CWM and root. That cuts out the step you're trying to to eliminate, if I've understood your question correctly?
I'm not sure in answer to your direct question, try it and see. Hopefully the alternative method I just gave you makes it a little quicker though
Edit : you could, if flashing CWM only doesn't give you root, just flash SuperSU from there and then continue.
Sent from a galaxy far, far away

Well mate your question is tricky to understand :cyclops:
1. NO installing CWM wont root your device requires another process (such a framaroot)
2. Aftrer installing CM 11 you dont have to re-root the mobile because CM comes prerooted with superuser !!
3. if you had already managed to install CM 11 think that you have already rooted your mobile
just for typing the 3 points my head spins in short no need for rooting after cm 11 ....and NO cwm wont root your device

thuva06 said:
Well mate your question is tricky to understand :cyclops:
1. NO installing CWM wont root your device requires another process (such a framaroot)
2. Aftrer installing CM 11 you dont have to re-root the mobile because CM comes prerooted with superuser !!
3. if you had already managed to install CM 11 think that you have already rooted your mobile
just for typing the 3 points my head spins in short no need for rooting after cm 11 ....and NO cwm wont root your device
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Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Why do I have to install CWM if I'm already rooted ? Can't I just framaroot then install CM 11 ?
Can I do a CWM, Cyanogen install without rooting ? Since CM already comes rooted. So jut CWM using odin, then CM install ROM. ?
Other question, Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?

Gregory48 said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Why do I have to install CWM if I'm already rooted ? Can't I just framaroot then install CM 11 ?
Can I do a CWM, Cyanogen install without rooting ? Since CM already comes rooted. So jut CWM using odin, then CM install ROM. ?
Other question, Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?
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CyanogenMod comes rooted. Also, the default recovery on CyanogenMod is CWM as well, so you can boot into recovery with volume up + home + power and flash a new build from there. You don't even need to use framaroot or flash CWM using Odin...
And yes, most (almost all) custom ROMs should come rooted unless you're flashing stock Samsung ROM through Odin. Besides, if you're flashing something in recovery, I don't think you need to be rooted.

Gregory48 said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Why do I have to install CWM if I'm already rooted ? Can't I just framaroot then install CM 11 ?
Can I do a CWM, Cyanogen install without rooting ? Since CM already comes rooted. So jut CWM using odin, then CM install ROM. ?
Other question, Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?
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Just to make sure that you understand everything i'm segregating your questions
1.Why do i install CWM when i'm already rooted?
Rooting is a process which just gives your overall control to your device, but just rooting wont make you eligible to flash any ROMS. Now when your install CWM (Clock Work Mod) its a unique type of recovery which enables your to flash Custom Roms. Your ordinary stock rom (your samsung firmware) also does have a recovery (stock recovery) which cannot penetrate into system files. So CWM is a must to flash roms !
Can i do a CWM and flash Cyanogenmod?
Absolutely NO!! Just because CM comes prerooted doesn't mean that you can flash CM without rooting.. CWM requires root to flash and change system files. For instance your are in Stock Samsung Firmware not rooted you just install CWM flash Cyanogenmod and you'll end up in a bootloop or softbrick. Since your system didnt allow files inside coz no ROOT!!..In the other hand if your already running Cyanogenmod (any version) you dont have to root nor flash CWM because they come prerooted and preinstalled with CWM.so you can flash on the go
Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?
Well cyanogenmod has an inbuilt function to disable root and most of the Roms comes with it now it can be found in settings >developer options> and root access...but not all roms im assuming. on the other hand yes some roms never come prerooted such as (omni rom 4.4.2) where you have to flash superuser to get root. But as i said incase of all prerooted roms there is an option to disable root
hope this helps you understand about rooting and cwm :good:

Thank you both for your answers, I understand much more now.
BUT
Last two answers are in conflict. They say the opposite.
which one to choose ?

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[Q] How can I use Clockmodework on Xperia mini ST15i?

I have xperia mini ST15i rooted with stock kernel and ROM ICS. Now I want to use some custom ROM like CM10 JB for it but there is no way to install the clockworkmode recovery on it I tried a tutorial which let me install the tool on my device ad I installed the ROM manger but it is reporting that CWM is not compatible with my device. When I press the Backup current ROM it just reboot and nothing happens, while in article they recommend the CWM to use a custom ROM.
I tried to install the CWM from http://mobilecon.info/install-sony-xperia-clockworkmod-for-ics-and-gingerbread.html
It is installing it but no way to use it.
I'm looking on this article to install the JB on my device.
http://www.teamandroid.com/2012/09/21/update-xperia-mini-st15i-st15a-android-411-jelly-bean-cm10-custom-firmware/
Now I want to know how can I use CWM to use make a recovery of stock ROM and use custom ROM, also how can I go back to stock ROM if custom ROM doesn't work.
avirk said:
I have xperia mini ST15i rooted with stock kernel and ROM ICS. Now I want to use some custom ROM like CM10 JB for it but there is no way to install the clockworkmode recovery on it I tried a tutorial which let me install the tool on my device ad I installed the ROM manger but it is reporting that CWM is not compatible with my device. When I press the Backup current ROM it just reboot and nothing happens, while in article they recommend the CWM to use a custom ROM.
I tried to install the CWM from http://mobilecon.info/install-sony-xperia-clockworkmod-for-ics-and-gingerbread.html
It is installing it but no way to use it.
I'm looking on this article to install the JB on my device.
http://www.teamandroid.com/2012/09/...-android-411-jelly-bean-cm10-custom-firmware/
Now I want to know how can I use CWM to use make a recovery of stock ROM and use custom ROM, also how can I go back to stock ROM if custom ROM doesn't work.
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Try downloading xparts/xperia parts from playstore and install it. Hope your device is rooted when you try it
Btw for cyanogenmod you have to unlock the bootloader which voids warranty. If you want to unlock look in my signature there's a guide!
mihahn said:
Try downloading xparts/xperia parts from playstore and install it. Hope your device is rooted when you try it
Btw for cyanogenmod you have to unlock the bootloader which voids warranty. If you want to unlock look in my signature there's a guide!
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I have already tried xparts but it also say that its not compatible with my device while I have rooted my phone already.
Check the command prompt log. is it saying successful installation?if then pressing the correct key after sony logo appears on start-up will put it on the CWM
avirk said:
I have xperia mini ST15i rooted with stock kernel and ROM ICS. Now I want to use some custom ROM like CM10 JB for it but there is no way to install the clockworkmode recovery on it I tried a tutorial which let me install the tool on my device ad I installed the ROM manger but it is reporting that CWM is not compatible with my device. When I press the Backup current ROM it just reboot and nothing happens, while in article they recommend the CWM to use a custom ROM.
I tried to install the CWM from http://mobilecon.info/install-sony-xperia-clockworkmod-for-ics-and-gingerbread.html
It is installing it but no way to use it.
I'm looking on this article to install the JB on my device.
http://www.teamandroid.com/2012/09/...-android-411-jelly-bean-cm10-custom-firmware/
Now I want to know how can I use CWM to use make a recovery of stock ROM and use custom ROM, also how can I go back to stock ROM if custom ROM doesn't work.
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First of all,download the stock firmware from here: http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/35239?start=0&tstart=0 (For security,if anytime,anything goes wrong..you can revert back to your stock)
Flashtool for flashing custom rom and kernel: http://androxyde.github.com/index.html?1350887833000
You can flash a custom kernel with CWM. I am using kernel Panic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861905
Firmware Flashing tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695514
You have to unlock bootloader for flashing custom kernel.I think for flshing JB,sooner or later,you have to flash custom kernel anyway.Decide about unlocking bootloader.Searc google for "Official bootloader unlocking method"
Note: Installed CWM sometimes doesn't work if your phone gets stuck at sony logo after flashing custom roms.But custom kernel's CWM stays allways active.So,it is better.Just take a backup before flashing custom rom
alone_in_dark said:
First of all,download the stock firmware from here: http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/35239?start=0&tstart=0 (For security,if anytime,anything goes wrong..you can revert back to your stock)
Flashtool for flashing custom rom and kernel: http://androxyde.github.com/index.html?1350887833000
You can flash a custom kernel with CWM. I am using kernel Panic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861905
Firmware Flashing tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695514
You have to unlock bootloader for flashing custom kernel.I think for flshing JB,sooner or later,you have to flash custom kernel anyway.Decide about unlocking bootloader.Searc google for "Official bootloader unlocking method"
Note: Installed CWM sometimes doesn't work if your phone gets stuck at sony logo after flashing custom roms.But custom kernel's CWM stays allways active.So,it is better.Just take a backup before flashing custom rom
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But why should he unlock bootloader if he only wants to install cwm?
@OP: Please make some screenshots of the installation progress in cmd and in the app. This error message could maybe help us :good:
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773227 it should work with locked bl too
then you need to reboot your phone and try to press volume down for multiple times when kernel logo (sony) appears

[q] looking for root / cwm

Hello, I am just browsing the I717 posts here, being familiar with android root and CWM, I can not seem to find much with root and CWM on the boards here. I see a lot of root, that installs TWRP a lot but I am looking to root and have CWM. Perhaps I missed it, however wanted to ask. Thank you.
Is this the most recent ?
CWM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916269
ROOT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2410025
That root method seems to install TWRP, I just want ROOT by itself so perhaps I can install CWM ?
To root this phone you have to flash a kernel that also installs CWR. The only way I can see to get root only without installing a recovery is put the phone in download mode and use odin to flash a rooted rom. But I've never seem an odin version of a rooted rom.
Why don't you want TWRP? Its way better than CWR.
unibombz said:
Hello, I am just browsing the I717 posts here, being familiar with android root and CWM, I can not seem to find much with root and CWM on the boards here. I see a lot of root, that installs TWRP a lot but I am looking to root and have CWM. Perhaps I missed it, however wanted to ask. Thank you.
Is this the most recent ?
CWM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916269
ROOT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2410025
That root method seems to install TWRP, I just want ROOT by itself so perhaps I can install CWM ?
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Latest CWM is 6.0.4.3
You do not need to install a custom kernel to root your phone. Use Odin to install CWM and then use CWM recovery to install a version of superuser.
Easiest method I know is here: Works for jellybean also.
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/

[Q] Rooting with new method

Dear brothers, two days before I saw a new method for rooting for I9300 via Odin install cwm recovery and flash SuperSU, device will be now successfully rooted.I just want to know is this method will work.I am new to rooting and need to root.Please help.
sashila said:
Dear brothers, two days before I saw a new method for rooting for I9300 via Odin install cwm recovery and flash SuperSU, device will be now successfully rooted.I just want to know is this method will work.I am new to rooting and need to root.Please help.
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A new methode is to download this apk from here: https://towelroot.com
And after that install supersu, you should have root access now
sashila said:
Dear brothers, two days before I saw a new method for rooting for I9300 via Odin install cwm recovery and flash SuperSU, device will be now successfully rooted.I just want to know is this method will work.I am new to rooting and need to root.Please help.
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Use cyanogen installer
Thanks for reply but i only want to root stock rom at present i am in cm11 via installer.After go back to stock i need to root that i don't know how to do that is why .2 days before i saw the above mentioned rooting method just install clockworkmod recovery through odin and after that flash supersu,phone is rooted this says the author. this is easy method that is why i want to know anybody tried this method
sashila said:
Thanks for reply but i only want to root stock rom at present i am in cm11 via installer.After go back to stock i need to root that i don't know how to do that is why .2 days before i saw the above mentioned rooting method just install clockworkmod recovery through odin and after that flash supersu,phone is rooted this says the author. this is easy method that is why i want to know anybody tried this method
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Sometimes after installing a rom i loose root flashing super su from recovery always fixed this problem
you should get recovery on you phone via odin then backup your stock rom then install super su zip from recovery
If you faced any problems then restore.
If you are asking if anybody tried i guess most s3 i9300 users rooted years ago on this site with old method.
You might have to be the 1st one or wait until somebody else does.

Confused about rooting, recovery and custom roms

Could someone provide me with an easy guide to rooting, installing recovery and installing a custom rom on my S2? I1900 version.
I'm wanting to put a KK rom on it but I'm confused about which recovery to use and the best method for rooting.
WastedJoker said:
Could someone provide me with an easy guide to rooting, installing recovery and installing a custom rom on my S2? I1900 version.
I'm wanting to put a KK rom on it but I'm confused about which recovery to use and the best method for rooting.
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I read your post on another thread you said you have flashed siyah kernel, so you are already rooted. You just need to use a "kitkat compatible" recovery such as CWM 6.0.4.5+ or TWRP 2.7+ to flash kitkat roms
Just a quick google search for "kitkat compatible recovery" gave me this one. Just download the CWM .zip, flash it from siyah recovery, then reboot to recovery(not system), then do your wipes/backups and flash the rom and gapps you want and reboot to system. Done
will give this a go!

cwm recovery requirement root?

Hi i want just install cwm on my s3, and be with stock firmware , i dont wanna install Custom Roms or same like that, just be with CWM and stock rom. so still root required when CWM INSTALLED FROM ODIN? SORRY FOR DUMP QUESTION
No need to root before installing a custom recovery with Odin.
I recommend TWRP over CWM as CWM has not been updated for a very long time.
audit13 said:
No need to root before installing a custom recovery with Odin.
I recommend TWRP over CWM as CWM has not been updated for a very long time.
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Neither has the s3 and twrp is known for borking your nand, so much so that they have a section on it on twrp website.
My opinion, use the last official cwmr for your device.
@shivadow, I didn't know that twrp affected the s3. The last version I recall using on the last few sgh-i747m phones I had was 2.87.
Do you have a link to the twrp section regarding this issue? Might be good to have it stickied?
Thank you.
Twrp buggers all devices in the end, not just the s3. It's like there's a bug that can't be solved.
Quick Google found this https://github.com/TeamWin/Team-Win-Recovery-Project/issues/773

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