[q] looking for root / cwm - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Hello, I am just browsing the I717 posts here, being familiar with android root and CWM, I can not seem to find much with root and CWM on the boards here. I see a lot of root, that installs TWRP a lot but I am looking to root and have CWM. Perhaps I missed it, however wanted to ask. Thank you.
Is this the most recent ?
CWM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916269
ROOT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2410025
That root method seems to install TWRP, I just want ROOT by itself so perhaps I can install CWM ?

To root this phone you have to flash a kernel that also installs CWR. The only way I can see to get root only without installing a recovery is put the phone in download mode and use odin to flash a rooted rom. But I've never seem an odin version of a rooted rom.
Why don't you want TWRP? Its way better than CWR.

unibombz said:
Hello, I am just browsing the I717 posts here, being familiar with android root and CWM, I can not seem to find much with root and CWM on the boards here. I see a lot of root, that installs TWRP a lot but I am looking to root and have CWM. Perhaps I missed it, however wanted to ask. Thank you.
Is this the most recent ?
CWM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1916269
ROOT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2410025
That root method seems to install TWRP, I just want ROOT by itself so perhaps I can install CWM ?
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Latest CWM is 6.0.4.3
You do not need to install a custom kernel to root your phone. Use Odin to install CWM and then use CWM recovery to install a version of superuser.
Easiest method I know is here: Works for jellybean also.
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/

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[Q] Whats easiest way to switch from twrp to cwm

I went with twrp but want to install Hyperdrive rom.. i read some were having problems due to twrp and the solution appeared to be to install cwm..
so what would be the simplest way.. i researched and only found ways for loki roots i beleive i did the odin method
thanks!
update: nevermind i did it thru rom manager

A little information please ?

I have trued to read and search the forums, but I haven't been able to figure a definitive answer to this...
When I flash CWM on my S2 using Odin, does it root the phone ?
I usually Root (with framaroot), Flash CWM, Flash CM 11 nightly, Re-root using framaroot.
But Can I just do : Flash CWM and Flash the CM 11 nightly ? does it auto root ?
What do you mean, 'usually'? Why is it that you can't just flash each new build of Cm11 from the previous one? Why do you need to re-root in the first place?
When I rooted my phone, rather than using a one-click such as framaroot, I flashed a kernel (siyah in my case) using Odin. That gave me CWM and root. That cuts out the step you're trying to to eliminate, if I've understood your question correctly?
I'm not sure in answer to your direct question, try it and see. Hopefully the alternative method I just gave you makes it a little quicker though
Edit : you could, if flashing CWM only doesn't give you root, just flash SuperSU from there and then continue.
Sent from a galaxy far, far away
Well mate your question is tricky to understand :cyclops:
1. NO installing CWM wont root your device requires another process (such a framaroot)
2. Aftrer installing CM 11 you dont have to re-root the mobile because CM comes prerooted with superuser !!
3. if you had already managed to install CM 11 think that you have already rooted your mobile
just for typing the 3 points my head spins in short no need for rooting after cm 11 ....and NO cwm wont root your device
thuva06 said:
Well mate your question is tricky to understand :cyclops:
1. NO installing CWM wont root your device requires another process (such a framaroot)
2. Aftrer installing CM 11 you dont have to re-root the mobile because CM comes prerooted with superuser !!
3. if you had already managed to install CM 11 think that you have already rooted your mobile
just for typing the 3 points my head spins in short no need for rooting after cm 11 ....and NO cwm wont root your device
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Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Why do I have to install CWM if I'm already rooted ? Can't I just framaroot then install CM 11 ?
Can I do a CWM, Cyanogen install without rooting ? Since CM already comes rooted. So jut CWM using odin, then CM install ROM. ?
Other question, Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?
Gregory48 said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Why do I have to install CWM if I'm already rooted ? Can't I just framaroot then install CM 11 ?
Can I do a CWM, Cyanogen install without rooting ? Since CM already comes rooted. So jut CWM using odin, then CM install ROM. ?
Other question, Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?
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CyanogenMod comes rooted. Also, the default recovery on CyanogenMod is CWM as well, so you can boot into recovery with volume up + home + power and flash a new build from there. You don't even need to use framaroot or flash CWM using Odin...
And yes, most (almost all) custom ROMs should come rooted unless you're flashing stock Samsung ROM through Odin. Besides, if you're flashing something in recovery, I don't think you need to be rooted.
Gregory48 said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Why do I have to install CWM if I'm already rooted ? Can't I just framaroot then install CM 11 ?
Can I do a CWM, Cyanogen install without rooting ? Since CM already comes rooted. So jut CWM using odin, then CM install ROM. ?
Other question, Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?
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Just to make sure that you understand everything i'm segregating your questions
1.Why do i install CWM when i'm already rooted?
Rooting is a process which just gives your overall control to your device, but just rooting wont make you eligible to flash any ROMS. Now when your install CWM (Clock Work Mod) its a unique type of recovery which enables your to flash Custom Roms. Your ordinary stock rom (your samsung firmware) also does have a recovery (stock recovery) which cannot penetrate into system files. So CWM is a must to flash roms !
Can i do a CWM and flash Cyanogenmod?
Absolutely NO!! Just because CM comes prerooted doesn't mean that you can flash CM without rooting.. CWM requires root to flash and change system files. For instance your are in Stock Samsung Firmware not rooted you just install CWM flash Cyanogenmod and you'll end up in a bootloop or softbrick. Since your system didnt allow files inside coz no ROOT!!..In the other hand if your already running Cyanogenmod (any version) you dont have to root nor flash CWM because they come prerooted and preinstalled with CWM.so you can flash on the go
Let's say I root, flash CWM, flash a ROM (any rom), can I be unrooted after that and have to reroot again ? Or do ALL roms come pre rooted ?
Well cyanogenmod has an inbuilt function to disable root and most of the Roms comes with it now it can be found in settings >developer options> and root access...but not all roms im assuming. on the other hand yes some roms never come prerooted such as (omni rom 4.4.2) where you have to flash superuser to get root. But as i said incase of all prerooted roms there is an option to disable root
hope this helps you understand about rooting and cwm :good:
Thank you both for your answers, I understand much more now.
BUT
Last two answers are in conflict. They say the opposite.
which one to choose ?

[Q] Rooted - or not

Hello to everyone
I am the proud owner of a galaxy S3 - i9300 since couple of days (got s2 before) and I would like to install a custom rom. Right now it is official JB. So first I tried to follow the guide from here the galaxys3root.com - galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-or-ics
I finished installing, everything said ok but SuperSU said "“There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!”. However I was able to enter recovery mode and see that cwm was installed. I repeated the procedure - same result. I tried using the CF-Auto-Root-m0-m0xx-gti9300.tar.md5, it said ok, finished, all green but again i had no root access (cwm still there, root checker said no root and supersu dissappeared).
The ultimate goal for me is to install CM11 rom with kitkat. So please clear some things for me (almost beginner level):
1. do i really need root from now on?
2. can i just reboot into recovery, wipe data/factory reset and install ROM? (all from the device, no odin)
3. is it a better solution to flash stock firmware through odin and start rooting all over again ?
4. Why don't I have root access since I followed all the indicated steps?
One detail that might matter is that now my cwm is version 5.5.0.4 CF v.1.5
Thank you for any help (and again, beginner+1 language please)
Visit CM and CF autoroot site you will find the answer to your questions.
All you need to install CM is recovery, so if you can get into that you are golden and don't need root on your current rom because its going to be over written with CM anyway
Thank you for your replies!
IOU-1, I did some research over the internet and I still do but I'm looking for some straight-on answers right now.
Darke5tShad0w, thanks for your help - right now I have cwm 5.5.0.4 - can you point me towards how to update to newer one? (I cannot do it through play store since I don't have root access).
Ok, I've found the cwm update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052091 I think this should work.
tt34t34 said:
Thank you for your replies!
IOU-1, I did some research over the internet and I still do but I'm looking for some straight-on answers right now.
Darke5tShad0w, thanks for your help - right now I have cwm 5.5.0.4 - can you point me towards how to update to newer one? (I cannot do it through play store since I don't have root access).
Ok, I've found the cwm update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052091 I think this should work.
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Try this since your goal is to install CM-ROM http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/CyanogenMod_Installer
Sorry I dont have alot of time today to be able to find you a link for the updated version.
Few things you can do here,
Use the link IOU-1 posted, I forgot about this yesterday then update CWM with rom manager
Try to flash cm with current CWM, if it works update it with rom manager
Search the forums and find the correct cwm post and update manually
Ok, thanks to everyone for their answers.
I fixed it and I'll say how so anyone in my position will do the same.
As a reminder, I tried to root but all I succeded to do is get cwm installed but no root (so no rom manager or any other root app installed).
What i did was to update cwm manually from within it, with zip install from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052091
After that I simply installed CM11 - zip install - and now I have root and everything is running smoothly.
Again thanks - and good luck to all.

[Q] Rooting with new method

Dear brothers, two days before I saw a new method for rooting for I9300 via Odin install cwm recovery and flash SuperSU, device will be now successfully rooted.I just want to know is this method will work.I am new to rooting and need to root.Please help.
sashila said:
Dear brothers, two days before I saw a new method for rooting for I9300 via Odin install cwm recovery and flash SuperSU, device will be now successfully rooted.I just want to know is this method will work.I am new to rooting and need to root.Please help.
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A new methode is to download this apk from here: https://towelroot.com
And after that install supersu, you should have root access now
sashila said:
Dear brothers, two days before I saw a new method for rooting for I9300 via Odin install cwm recovery and flash SuperSU, device will be now successfully rooted.I just want to know is this method will work.I am new to rooting and need to root.Please help.
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Use cyanogen installer
Thanks for reply but i only want to root stock rom at present i am in cm11 via installer.After go back to stock i need to root that i don't know how to do that is why .2 days before i saw the above mentioned rooting method just install clockworkmod recovery through odin and after that flash supersu,phone is rooted this says the author. this is easy method that is why i want to know anybody tried this method
sashila said:
Thanks for reply but i only want to root stock rom at present i am in cm11 via installer.After go back to stock i need to root that i don't know how to do that is why .2 days before i saw the above mentioned rooting method just install clockworkmod recovery through odin and after that flash supersu,phone is rooted this says the author. this is easy method that is why i want to know anybody tried this method
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Sometimes after installing a rom i loose root flashing super su from recovery always fixed this problem
you should get recovery on you phone via odin then backup your stock rom then install super su zip from recovery
If you faced any problems then restore.
If you are asking if anybody tried i guess most s3 i9300 users rooted years ago on this site with old method.
You might have to be the 1st one or wait until somebody else does.

cwm recovery requirement root?

Hi i want just install cwm on my s3, and be with stock firmware , i dont wanna install Custom Roms or same like that, just be with CWM and stock rom. so still root required when CWM INSTALLED FROM ODIN? SORRY FOR DUMP QUESTION
No need to root before installing a custom recovery with Odin.
I recommend TWRP over CWM as CWM has not been updated for a very long time.
audit13 said:
No need to root before installing a custom recovery with Odin.
I recommend TWRP over CWM as CWM has not been updated for a very long time.
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Neither has the s3 and twrp is known for borking your nand, so much so that they have a section on it on twrp website.
My opinion, use the last official cwmr for your device.
@shivadow, I didn't know that twrp affected the s3. The last version I recall using on the last few sgh-i747m phones I had was 2.87.
Do you have a link to the twrp section regarding this issue? Might be good to have it stickied?
Thank you.
Twrp buggers all devices in the end, not just the s3. It's like there's a bug that can't be solved.
Quick Google found this https://github.com/TeamWin/Team-Win-Recovery-Project/issues/773

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