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Haven't used maps all day, gps is off, yet maps is in my battery usage and has caused over 30 mins wake time. Why is it even opened? I've killed it a few times now just to see awake time increase. Anyone else having issues. I'm completely stock and ota updated.
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Eat it iPhone said:
Haven't used maps all day, gps is off, yet maps is in my battery usage and has caused over 30 mins wake time. Why is it even opened? I've killed it a few times now just to see awake time increase. Anyone else having issues. I'm completely stock and ota updated.
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I have been having the same exact problebm, stock with ota. I used advanced task killer seems to lower the awake time by alot. But still get the maps awake time way up there, even when not in use
Yeah, it keeps restarting.
Evo3D
Ok so its not just me then. Anyone know why this is, possible fix?
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do you use Latitude, or have you signed into latitude through google maps? I know using latitude it polls your location every hour or few hours (not sure how often) and that runs through the google maps process
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do you use Latitude, or have you signed into latitude through google maps? I know using latitude it polls your location every hour or few hours (not sure how often) and that runs through the google maps process
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I dont really use it, its installed, ill check if its active. Thanks
Greetings!
I've recently bought Samsung Galaxy S3 and am trying to get the most of its battery by disabling things I don't need. The one of these things is Push service. I've managed to disable it for Google Mail and Google Talk, but I can't find how to do this regarding Play Store Push. To see how it works, I visit Play Store via my PC browser and chose anything to download. The next second my phone starts the downloading and installation. To me, there's namely Push service involved.
I'd appreciate if you share your knowledge/thoughts how to make this thing disabled. All settings of Play Store that possibly may have impact to this behavior are turned off. There also was an advice to stop Software Update service that I followed, but to me that didn't work. And yes, I have no root enabled, if that makes any sense.
Thanks in advance,
Eugene
Turned off updates on phone Play app ???
jje
JJEgan said:
Turned off updates on phone Play app ???
jje
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Of course, it was the first thing to do. It has nothing in common with Play Store Push.
That service is not only used for Play Store, but for nearly all Google Apps and several non-Google apps, being called C2DM.
It does not consume any battery in normal conditions since it uses a technology called Comet long polling (aka "push") and thus waits for Google servers to send a notification, the device does not have to actively monitor for changes.
As long as you have data enabled you can safely keep it running since it won't cost you battery in idle.
Dropping your data to 2G is the only method to really save battery (disabling data does not really give you any more advantage over 2G with enabled Sync for all services, ~2-3 days of standby battery)
How about you enjoy your phone instead of trying to manually cripple it down just to get some more juice out of it?
Sound a bit paranoid to try to conserve battery in such manner. Is it necessary?
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d4fseeker said:
How about you enjoy your phone instead of trying to manually cripple it down just to get some more juice out of it?
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These minutes I could save by turning this off may be vital in some cases So, I assume there is no legal way to turn this off? I even can't see this C2DM in my SystemPanel App. Should I?
Ok, no big deal. If you guys insist I can leave it as is
Thanks a lot for the lesson.
I even can't see this C2DM in my SystemPanel App.
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No you can't. I can't even seem to find the toggle 'Background data' responsible for this feature in the current CM10 Jellybean build.
These minutes I could save by turning this off
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As I said, C2DM will not use battery except in 2 cases:
- when a message/notification is being pushed (well duh!)
- when you keep switching network or loosing internet connection (however in this case the C2DM's is neglectable in comparison to the modem's battery drain)
It is technically basically a few bytes in RAM that remind the phone that incoming data on Port X is Push-notifications. The underlying service (Android market framework) will run anyway.
turning this off may be vital in some cases
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I always keep a "mobile power pack" and USB-cable (which is a battery with USB plug) in the car and backpack so that I can easily quickly charge the phone either through the mobile power pack or an available USB port on a computer. In case of emergencies, lots of other people have a mobile phone too which you can borrow - you'll have to remember the phone number though.
Buying a smartphone and then not using it so you have some juice in case of emergency is somewhat ridiculous. Stick with feature phones then =)
Ok, no big deal. If you guys insist I can leave it as is
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There are a lot of other system options you can tweak starting from the modem and ending with the kernel and ROM features which all affect battery life. E.g. Siyah can be tweaked for performance or battery life.
d4fseeker said:
That service is not only used for Play Store, but for nearly all Google Apps and several non-Google apps, being called C2DM.
It does not consume any battery in normal conditions since it uses a technology called Comet long polling (aka "push") and thus waits for Google servers to send a notification, the device does not have to actively monitor for changes.
As long as you have data enabled you can safely keep it running since it won't cost you battery in idle.
Dropping your data to 2G is the only method to really save battery (disabling data does not really give you any more advantage over 2G with enabled Sync for all services, ~2-3 days of standby battery)
How about you enjoy your phone instead of trying to manually cripple it down just to get some more juice out of it?
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Speaking of nearly all Google apps, I noticed this morning when I turned my rooted S3 back on that two of them, Play Books and Play Movies & TV, which I had frozen with TB, were back and had to be refrozen. Are these coming from Play Store and could I turn off auto updates just for them there? Annoying.
Push not working
Hello guys
I need your help here. So I flashed this new ROM, and the Google Push service seemed to have stopped working completely.
1. Gmail not pushing.
2. Google play store not pushing as well
I have played around (sync on,etc) but I can't seem to find what's wrong with it. So I tried to restore a previous Nandroid backup, but the md5 checksum was mismatched!
I then tried to wipe everything, reflash new ROM etc, and yet the Google Push services aren't working as well.
Can anyone help? I am stuck, I can't go back due to md5 checksum error, and I can't move forward because I don't get Google Push services
I already did my research on this and found that people on older devices had this issue. I had this issue on my DNA today and it was eating up close to 30 percent of my battery. So much so that I was at 70 percent after 3-4 hours off the charger. I disabled everything I could related to location and it was still running. Eventually I cleared cache and reset the settings, still nothing. Uninstalled the most recent update and went back to "factory" and all is good.
Just posting this up for anyone else who has been experiencing the same thing.
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I already did my research on this and found that people on older devices had this issue. I had this issue on my DNA today and it was eating up close to 30 percent of my battery. So much so that I was at 70 percent after 3-4 hours off the charger. I disabled everything I could related to location and it was still running. Eventually I cleared cache and reset the settings, still nothing. Uninstalled the most recent update and went back to "factory" and all is good.
Just posting this up for anyone else who has been experiencing the same thing.
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Yeah, google maps does stay on pretty much all the time. However, according to Gsam, it only eats up about 2% of battery for me. Not sure why yours is chowing down that much battery. Do you use lattitude, I know that is a real battery drainer.
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Yeah, google maps does stay on pretty much all the time. However, according to Gsam, it only eats up about 2% of battery for me. Not sure why yours is chowing down that much battery. Do you use lattitude, I know that is a real battery drainer.
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No sir, havent used latitude. It started when I installed widgetsoids for some reason. Uninstalled, stopped maps and did a reboot and maps was still going. Odd for sure. But it hasnt started back up since I uninstalled the update. I may reinstall them just to see if it was the cause.
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No sir, havent used latitude. It started when I installed widgetsoids for some reason. Uninstalled, stopped maps and did a reboot and maps was still going. Odd for sure. But it hasnt started back up since I uninstalled the update. I may reinstall them just to see if it was the cause.
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That would be interesting to know. You can also use better battery stats (there's a free version posted somewhere on XDA) to help find the offending app causing the drain.
Did you per chance set up traffic on Google now? I had and found it pretty much left maps running all the time. I disabled that and haven't had an issue since
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I already did my research on this and found that people on older devices had this issue. I had this issue on my DNA today and it was eating up close to 30 percent of my battery. So much so that I was at 70 percent after 3-4 hours off the charger. I disabled everything I could related to location and it was still running. Eventually I cleared cache and reset the settings, still nothing. Uninstalled the most recent update and went back to "factory" and all is good.
Just posting this up for anyone else who has been experiencing the same thing.
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Here is what worked for me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35698582
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Here is what worked for me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35698582
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Is there a way to convert the Maps app to downloadable and then uninstall it and then install it directly from the market to see if that fixes any issues? I heard that might be beneficial, too. I'm not sure though. >_<
I use maps and latitude and never have problems with battery consumption
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I was having this issue a while back and was finally able to resolve it after turning off most of the location services in the Maps settings. I read somewhere that there is a bug on some HTC devices where Latitute is constantly pinging for location services (but in a way that causes tons of battery drain). My battery wasn't making it until dinner time and now it goes about 24 hours.
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Did you per chance set up traffic on Google now? I had and found it pretty much left maps running all the time. I disabled that and haven't had an issue since
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I actually did have traffic enabled, I forgot to turn it off when I enabled google now. But this started happening after I had turned off traffic. So far so good, reinstalled the update and it hasn't been running more than 2% today. So what location services do you guys use? Verizon, Google or standalone, I have googles selected and it's only thing related to location that's enabled though so I can get weather.
Try getting a gps lock in maps before you close it. Seems to help me.
I have found that I have less issues with google maps, latitude, and google now, if my GPS has been allowed to turn on and get a GOOD lock. I like to run GPS status to initialize the GPS, and have it create a good GPS database. Seems like once the GPS has had a good lock (after flashing a new rom) then maps etc runs smoother, less wake-locks, and less battery usage.
Yeah If I go into maps, I let it get a lock before exiting, been having good luck so far.
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Yeah If I go into maps, I let it get a lock before exiting, been having good luck so far.
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Could you explain in detail what a "good lock" before exiting means?
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ScreenSpace said:
Could you explain in detail what a "good lock" before exiting means?
Thank You
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Open maps, let it grab your location and show it on the map then leave it. That way its not searching for your location like it would be if you opened it and closed it before the map showed up.
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Open maps, let it grab your location and show it on the map then leave it. That way its not searching for your location like it would be if you opened it and closed it before the map showed up.
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Nice!
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I actually did have traffic enabled, I forgot to turn it off when I enabled google now. But this started happening after I had turned off traffic. So far so good, reinstalled the update and it hasn't been running more than 2% today. So what location services do you guys use? Verizon, Google or standalone, I have googles selected and it's only thing related to location that's enabled though so I can get weather.
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I only leave Google location services on, never use Verizons, and only use stand alone for navigation, etc.
Ok, ever since the new maps update, it constantly turns itself on. It never use to be a problem before. I've been monitoring with GSam. I don't have anything turned on. I don't use google now, latitude or any other thing. When in settings the only thing that is checked is automatic sign in...you cant remove that check. It saves it but when you open back up is checked again. The following services running:
com.google.android.apps.maps:FriendService
com.google.android.apps.maps
com.google.android.apps.maps:GoogleLocationService
com.google.android.apps.maps:LocationFriendService
Anyone experiencing this issue since the updated to the maps in market? I'm going to test it with Location & Google Search off, but you need to turn that on to get a lock on GPS for maps. Annoying to say the least. I'm running stock.
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Ok, ever since the new maps update, it constantly turns itself on. It never use to be a problem before. I've been monitoring with GSam. I don't have anything turned on. I don't use google now, latitude or any other thing. When in settings the only thing that is checked is automatic sign in...you cant remove that check. It saves it but when you open back up is checked again. The following services running:
com.google.android.apps.maps:FriendService
com.google.android.apps.maps
com.google.android.apps.maps:GoogleLocationService
com.google.android.apps.maps:LocationFriendService
Anyone experiencing this issue since the updated to the maps in market? I'm going to test it with Location & Google Search off, but you need to turn that on to get a lock on GPS for maps. Annoying to say the least. I'm running stock.
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I'm having the same issue I just disabled the maps app and everything is okay now
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Having the same issue since I did a wipe. Last time around in was able to resolve it by disabling location settings in maps. Now that doesn't seem to be working. I'll probably enable everything and run it for awhile and then disable again. I use navigation all the time so I can't disable maps.
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I already posted about this in the NRG ROM because that's the ROM I'm using, but I am so impressed with the battery improvement after using this app for a week that I had to cross post to a larger audience. I know the battery is the one major drawback on the Amaze. This is just not a problem for me anymore since I started using Greenify.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
I've been getting over 24 hours regularly with 3-4 hours screen time. I'm using NRG with stock kernel, but I see no reason why this app wouldn't offer improvement for any configuration. It enables effective hibernation of apps without freezing them. They'll run but only in the foreground. It cuts out all background processes of the apps you select.
You have total control over which apps you want running in the background and allows you to keep the aggressive battery hogs at bay. You select which apps should hibernate. For instance, now Google maps will really stay asleep when it's not being used, no constant wake locks, but unlike with freezing it, you can conveniently launch it when needed. However any apps with background processes that are actually useful are free to do their thing, eg, widgets you want to auto update. It's taming the beast that is android.
And not only is my battery improved, but my phone is more responsive too. Highly recommended. Here's the xda thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
thanks a lot for sharing this, will try it out, always wanted an app like this, the maps kill the battery for no good reason.
My pleasure. I hope your experience is as satisfying mine.
dosnt kill maps most apps remain in idle, pending hibernation mode.
EDIT, opened my eyes and read the FAQ. - maps not gonna die :|
Q: Some of my greenified apps (e.g. Google Maps) seems not hibernating.
A: In short, don't worry about frequently awake apps. It will still hibernate in minutes after screen goes off, thus hardly add observable battery consumption. Use battery statistics in settings or "BetterBatteryStats" to confirm that.
While most greenified apps will stay in hibernation quietly, some apps do break hibernation, due to being waken up by others. Some known cases include enabled account sync, backup agent, and explicit launch by other app.
Since version 1.45, Greenify will now automatically turn off directly involved account sync of greenified apps when going to hibernate, to avoid the periodic account sync wake them up. For backup agents, Greenify will NOT disable them, to ensure your backup of app data is always up-to-date. As backup usually does not perform often, they are thus unlikely to be waken up often.
Google Maps is a typical example of explicit launch by other app. Some Google apps, including Google Now (a.k.a Google Search), will start the NetworkLocationProvider of Google Maps for its proprietary implementation instead of the public Android one if Google Maps is installed.
Since Greenify is designed to not break any explicit usage of greenified apps, these behaviors are considered "normal", and will NOT be "fixed". To clear out your unease, Greenify will still put them into hibernation when standby to protect your battery consumption.
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bilaliz said:
dosnt kill maps most apps remain in idle, pending hibernation mode.
EDIT, opened my eyes and read the FAQ. - maps not gonna die :|
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You can manually put them into hibernation mode by selecting them, and hitting the pause button at the top of the screen. To help control maps make sure you don't have Google Now running or have it on in a very limited mode. (Google Now sucker punches battery. Honestly, I just presume that anyone interested in battery preservation has abandoned Google Now.) The other anti-maps tactic I use is to go to System Settings>>Location and disable "GPS satellites" and "Location & Google search." I can easily re-enable these through a widget I have set up when I need Maps capability, but it keeps the program quiet for the most part and Greenify does the rest.
The proof is in the screenshots. I never got any battery life like this before Greenify.
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The proof is in the screenshots. I never got any battery life like this before Greenify.
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but in those pics i also see juice defender running, so that may be playing a part too. also there are no phone calls, phone calls take a lot of juice.
regarless of that i have witnessed significant battery improvement with this app, i think i'll be giving a donation to this guy. he deserves it.
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but in those pics i also see juice defender running, so that may be playing a part too. also there are no phone calls, phone calls take a lot of juice.
regarless of that i have witnessed significant battery improvement with this app, i think i'll be giving a donation to this guy. he deserves it.
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Lol yea juice defender
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I've had Juice Defender going as long as I've had my phone. I use the customization in ultimate, but before Greenify, I was getting around 17 hours battery life. So JD has not been a variable for me in evaluating the app.
I'm not a big phone call maker, but I do use bluetooth for music streaming a lot. I think it was so minor in comparison to the screen usage that day that it probably didn't even register 1% battery usage.
So I'm giving it a try. This a pretty much a light app that kills the app you select when you aren't using it.
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Trying this out now but just thought I'd pass along some info that really helped me with maps. Using Autorun manager (free on playstore) I killed any process under map that had the word friend in it and it has made a big difference even though Latitude has been disabled since day 1. There are lots of other battery saving and wake lock preventing things you can do with this app.
Justin
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Trying this out now but just thought I'd pass along some info that really helped me with maps. Using Autorun manager (free on playstore) I killed any process under map that had the word friend in it and it has made a big difference even though Latitude has been disabled since day 1. There are lots of other battery saving and wake lock preventing things you can do with this app.
Justin
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I did the same and it helped my battery life dramatically.
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mestguy182 said:
Trying this out now but just thought I'd pass along some info that really helped me with maps. Using Autorun manager (free on playstore) I killed any process under map that had the word friend in it and it has made a big difference even though Latitude has been disabled since day 1. There are lots of other battery saving and wake lock preventing things you can do with this app.
Justin
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Thanks for the tip. I am trying this out as well and after 2 days, my battery life has doubled. :good: Even works very well on my wife's GNex, where the battery life is worse than the Amaze
I have not used the maps app at all today, and my usage shows its been used for an hour and a half. Other than Google now, what should be using maps that often?
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I have not used the maps app at all today, and my usage shows its been used for an hour and a half. Other than Google now, what should be using maps that often?
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It's not like that. Just like whatsapp which stays always on to keep you connected, Google maps also stays on even though you don't open it as a system background process although you don't need it. The best way to remove this is to root your phone and uninstall this 'bloatware'
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It's not like that. Just like whatsapp which stays always on to keep you connected, Google maps also stays on even though you don't open it as a system background process although you don't need it. The best way to remove this is to root your phone and uninstall this 'bloatware'
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There's no need to delete Google Maps. You just need to regain some control from the app. By default it sends location data to Google. This periodic data 'seepage' also seems to have the affect of 'waking' the phone from deep sleep. Silly, especially since Google wrote the damn OS.
Anyway, this issue has been covered in other threads; you should search, there are more precise instructions out there
...or you can rely on my questionable memory; as I recall-
- Go into Google Maps
- Choose Settings
- Choose Location Settings
- Un-check "Report From This Device"
Also, make sure (on same screen) that Enable Location Sharing is NOT checked and that any of the other location-specific items on the same screen are un-checked.
If you're wondering about 'Location Reporting' under Background Location Reporting, mine is set to 'Detect your location' (thus I think this setting is OK).
Try this out. For me, Gmaps no longer uses data (or wakes the phone) unless I'm explicitly using it.
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There's no need to delete Google Maps. You just need to regain some control from the app. By default it sends location data to Google. This periodic data 'seepage' also seems to have the affect of 'waking' the phone from deep sleep. Silly, especially since Google wrote the damn OS.
Anyway, this issue has been covered in other threads; you should search, there are more precise instructions out there
...or you can rely on my questionable memory; as I recall-
- Go into Google Maps
- Choose Settings
- Choose Location Settings
- Un-check "Report From This Device"
Also, make sure (on same screen) that Enable Location Sharing is NOT checked and that any of the other location-specific items on the same screen are un-checked.
If you're wondering about 'Location Reporting' under Background Location Reporting, mine is set to 'Detect your location' (thus I think this setting is OK).
Try this out. For me, Gmaps no longer uses data (or wakes the phone) unless I'm explicitly using it.
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Awesome. Thanks for the help. I set it up the way you suggested and I'll see how it works over the next day or so.
You could the free app Greenify as well. Anything that runs in the background without your permission will get shut down by it.
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You could the free app Greenify as well. Anything that runs in the background without your permission will get shut down by it.
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Excellent app, but it does require root privileges.
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You could the free app Greenify as well. Anything that runs in the background without your permission will get shut down by it.
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It's desirable (to many) to have at least some background apps able to run/consume data. Yes, you can disable all (or ration out when they're 'allowed' to run, but then you lose out on the full capabilities of the device.
Trust me, having come from Sprint and a GS2, I am well versed in shutting down and restricting apps. What I LOVE about my GS4 is that I can let virtually all apps run (within reason, and w/exception of Gmaps as noted above) and I still have 28-40 hour battery cycles.
Just be wary of 'out of control' apps. Tame them, freeze them, or delete them, but only as a last resort would I disable all background apps.
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It's desirable (to many) to have at least some background apps able to run/consume data. Yes, you can disable all (or ration out when they're 'allowed' to run, but then you lose out on the full capabilities of the device.
Trust me, having come from Sprint and a GS2, I am well versed in shutting down and restricting apps. What I LOVE about my GS4 is that I can let virtually all apps run (within reason, and w/exception of Gmaps as noted above) and I still have 28-40 hour battery cycles.
Just be wary of 'out of control' apps. Tame them, freeze them, or delete them, but only as a last resort would I disable all background apps.
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I agree. Just saying. Those apps that you don't want to run, you can tell Greenify which ones to disallow access. A one stop shop, as it were.
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I agree. Just saying. Those apps that you don't want to run, you can tell Greenify which ones to disallow access. A one stop shop, as it were.
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My bad. For some reason I thought your response said "disable all background apps". Thx for the app tip.