I already did my research on this and found that people on older devices had this issue. I had this issue on my DNA today and it was eating up close to 30 percent of my battery. So much so that I was at 70 percent after 3-4 hours off the charger. I disabled everything I could related to location and it was still running. Eventually I cleared cache and reset the settings, still nothing. Uninstalled the most recent update and went back to "factory" and all is good.
Just posting this up for anyone else who has been experiencing the same thing.
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I already did my research on this and found that people on older devices had this issue. I had this issue on my DNA today and it was eating up close to 30 percent of my battery. So much so that I was at 70 percent after 3-4 hours off the charger. I disabled everything I could related to location and it was still running. Eventually I cleared cache and reset the settings, still nothing. Uninstalled the most recent update and went back to "factory" and all is good.
Just posting this up for anyone else who has been experiencing the same thing.
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Yeah, google maps does stay on pretty much all the time. However, according to Gsam, it only eats up about 2% of battery for me. Not sure why yours is chowing down that much battery. Do you use lattitude, I know that is a real battery drainer.
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Yeah, google maps does stay on pretty much all the time. However, according to Gsam, it only eats up about 2% of battery for me. Not sure why yours is chowing down that much battery. Do you use lattitude, I know that is a real battery drainer.
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No sir, havent used latitude. It started when I installed widgetsoids for some reason. Uninstalled, stopped maps and did a reboot and maps was still going. Odd for sure. But it hasnt started back up since I uninstalled the update. I may reinstall them just to see if it was the cause.
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No sir, havent used latitude. It started when I installed widgetsoids for some reason. Uninstalled, stopped maps and did a reboot and maps was still going. Odd for sure. But it hasnt started back up since I uninstalled the update. I may reinstall them just to see if it was the cause.
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That would be interesting to know. You can also use better battery stats (there's a free version posted somewhere on XDA) to help find the offending app causing the drain.
Did you per chance set up traffic on Google now? I had and found it pretty much left maps running all the time. I disabled that and haven't had an issue since
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croppz said:
I already did my research on this and found that people on older devices had this issue. I had this issue on my DNA today and it was eating up close to 30 percent of my battery. So much so that I was at 70 percent after 3-4 hours off the charger. I disabled everything I could related to location and it was still running. Eventually I cleared cache and reset the settings, still nothing. Uninstalled the most recent update and went back to "factory" and all is good.
Just posting this up for anyone else who has been experiencing the same thing.
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Here is what worked for me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35698582
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Here is what worked for me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35698582
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Is there a way to convert the Maps app to downloadable and then uninstall it and then install it directly from the market to see if that fixes any issues? I heard that might be beneficial, too. I'm not sure though. >_<
I use maps and latitude and never have problems with battery consumption
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I was having this issue a while back and was finally able to resolve it after turning off most of the location services in the Maps settings. I read somewhere that there is a bug on some HTC devices where Latitute is constantly pinging for location services (but in a way that causes tons of battery drain). My battery wasn't making it until dinner time and now it goes about 24 hours.
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Did you per chance set up traffic on Google now? I had and found it pretty much left maps running all the time. I disabled that and haven't had an issue since
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I actually did have traffic enabled, I forgot to turn it off when I enabled google now. But this started happening after I had turned off traffic. So far so good, reinstalled the update and it hasn't been running more than 2% today. So what location services do you guys use? Verizon, Google or standalone, I have googles selected and it's only thing related to location that's enabled though so I can get weather.
Try getting a gps lock in maps before you close it. Seems to help me.
I have found that I have less issues with google maps, latitude, and google now, if my GPS has been allowed to turn on and get a GOOD lock. I like to run GPS status to initialize the GPS, and have it create a good GPS database. Seems like once the GPS has had a good lock (after flashing a new rom) then maps etc runs smoother, less wake-locks, and less battery usage.
Yeah If I go into maps, I let it get a lock before exiting, been having good luck so far.
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Yeah If I go into maps, I let it get a lock before exiting, been having good luck so far.
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Could you explain in detail what a "good lock" before exiting means?
Thank You
ScreenSpace said:
Could you explain in detail what a "good lock" before exiting means?
Thank You
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Open maps, let it grab your location and show it on the map then leave it. That way its not searching for your location like it would be if you opened it and closed it before the map showed up.
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Open maps, let it grab your location and show it on the map then leave it. That way its not searching for your location like it would be if you opened it and closed it before the map showed up.
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Nice!
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I actually did have traffic enabled, I forgot to turn it off when I enabled google now. But this started happening after I had turned off traffic. So far so good, reinstalled the update and it hasn't been running more than 2% today. So what location services do you guys use? Verizon, Google or standalone, I have googles selected and it's only thing related to location that's enabled though so I can get weather.
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I only leave Google location services on, never use Verizons, and only use stand alone for navigation, etc.
Ok, ever since the new maps update, it constantly turns itself on. It never use to be a problem before. I've been monitoring with GSam. I don't have anything turned on. I don't use google now, latitude or any other thing. When in settings the only thing that is checked is automatic sign in...you cant remove that check. It saves it but when you open back up is checked again. The following services running:
com.google.android.apps.maps:FriendService
com.google.android.apps.maps
com.google.android.apps.maps:GoogleLocationService
com.google.android.apps.maps:LocationFriendService
Anyone experiencing this issue since the updated to the maps in market? I'm going to test it with Location & Google Search off, but you need to turn that on to get a lock on GPS for maps. Annoying to say the least. I'm running stock.
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Ok, ever since the new maps update, it constantly turns itself on. It never use to be a problem before. I've been monitoring with GSam. I don't have anything turned on. I don't use google now, latitude or any other thing. When in settings the only thing that is checked is automatic sign in...you cant remove that check. It saves it but when you open back up is checked again. The following services running:
com.google.android.apps.maps:FriendService
com.google.android.apps.maps
com.google.android.apps.maps:GoogleLocationService
com.google.android.apps.maps:LocationFriendService
Anyone experiencing this issue since the updated to the maps in market? I'm going to test it with Location & Google Search off, but you need to turn that on to get a lock on GPS for maps. Annoying to say the least. I'm running stock.
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I'm having the same issue I just disabled the maps app and everything is okay now
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Having the same issue since I did a wipe. Last time around in was able to resolve it by disabling location settings in maps. Now that doesn't seem to be working. I'll probably enable everything and run it for awhile and then disable again. I use navigation all the time so I can't disable maps.
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Haven't used maps all day, gps is off, yet maps is in my battery usage and has caused over 30 mins wake time. Why is it even opened? I've killed it a few times now just to see awake time increase. Anyone else having issues. I'm completely stock and ota updated.
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Eat it iPhone said:
Haven't used maps all day, gps is off, yet maps is in my battery usage and has caused over 30 mins wake time. Why is it even opened? I've killed it a few times now just to see awake time increase. Anyone else having issues. I'm completely stock and ota updated.
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I have been having the same exact problebm, stock with ota. I used advanced task killer seems to lower the awake time by alot. But still get the maps awake time way up there, even when not in use
Yeah, it keeps restarting.
Evo3D
Ok so its not just me then. Anyone know why this is, possible fix?
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do you use Latitude, or have you signed into latitude through google maps? I know using latitude it polls your location every hour or few hours (not sure how often) and that runs through the google maps process
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do you use Latitude, or have you signed into latitude through google maps? I know using latitude it polls your location every hour or few hours (not sure how often) and that runs through the google maps process
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I dont really use it, its installed, ill check if its active. Thanks
As soon as I've started Google Maps once it keeps running even after I close Google Maps. As a result the LocationManagerService is often chewing up my battery in the background. Only solution is to reboot the phone or force quit with Titanium Backup. Has anyone experienced a similar issue?
I'm running:
Google Maps 6.0.1
Phenomenal 1.1 kernel
UltraToxic 8.0.1 Rom
I noticed the same after using Navigation soon after updating to KK5. Freezing the NetworkLocation apk (com.google.android.location) resolved it for me, while leaving GPS working correctly.
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As soon as I've started Google Maps once it keeps running even after I close Google Maps. As a result the LocationManagerService is often chewing up my battery in the background. Only solution is to reboot the phone or force quit with Titanium Backup. Has anyone experienced a similar issue?
I'm running:
Google Maps 6.0.1
Phenomenal 1.1 kernel
UltraToxic 8.0.1 Rom
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Freeze it with Titanium,while your at it freeze all Samsung bloatware and no more excessive batter drainage.
oinkylicious said:
I noticed the same after using Navigation soon after updating to KK5. Freezing the NetworkLocation apk (com.google.android.location) resolved it for me, while leaving GPS working correctly.
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Thanks for your reply!
I froze Network Location 1.1.08 with Titanium Backup Pro. However Google Maps still keeps running in the background after closing it. Did I freeze it incorrectly?
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Thanks for your reply!
I froze Network Location 1.1.08 with Titanium Backup Pro. However Google Maps still keeps running in the background after closing it. Did I freeze it incorrectly?
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Are you logged into Latitude? That manifests itself as Google Maps activity and is a real battery killer.
Might be worth checking - log out and stay out if it is active.
Gustopher said:
Are you logged into Latitude? That manifests itself as Google Maps activity and is a real battery killer.
Might be worth checking - log out and stay out if it is active.
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I wish that was it! I've never used Latitude though.
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I wish that was it! I've never used Latitude though.
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I assume you probably have checked, but if not, just double check that you definitely aren't logged in. Can't remember now the sequence of events, but in answering a relatively innocent question shortly after getting the phone I inadvertently found myself to be a Latitude user! I had never knowingly opened it or logged in.
Soon as I killed it my battery life improved immeasurably.
downgrade to 5.x solved the problem
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downgrade to 5.x solved the problem
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Thanks for the tip! I downgraded to 5.8 but it's still not fixed.
OK, if it isn't Latitude, the next most likely culprit would be an app or a widget that is somehow using mapping. A weather widget? Shopping? Anything else that thinks it needs to know where you are right now?
If you have the stomach for it, I have read various threads that talk about removing one widget at a time (and then one app at a time) until the culprit is identified.
Equally you could install a clean ROM and then start installing apps and widgets until you get the issue back.
No precise science, just lots of trial and error...
Clear cache from maps.
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OK, if it isn't Latitude, the next most likely culprit would be an app or a widget that is somehow using mapping. A weather widget? Shopping? Anything else that thinks it needs to know where you are right now?
If you have the stomach for it, I have read various threads that talk about removing one widget at a time (and then one app at a time) until the culprit is identified.
Equally you could install a clean ROM and then start installing apps and widgets until you get the issue back.
No precise science, just lots of trial and error...
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Thanks! I don't have any widgets running. I've also tried the Simple & Clean v2.4.3 ROM (and various kernels) and it produced the same result. It's just that as soon as I start anything related to google maps it will just keep google maps running until I kill it or reboot.
I wonder if it is a common bug and only few people notice it or if it's a rare bug. Sure eats up that battery though!
I read they'll be releasing ICS beta next week so I'm going to hope that fixes this issue.
So can you boot the clean ROM, start Google Maps and Google Maps alone, close it down and have it close cleanly? That is to say, no battery drain?
I must admit I fight a little shy of Maps since my Latitude experience but I have used it and I'm not aware of the behaviour you are seeing.
If you run the clean ROM for a while without anything else running I assume all is well?
Gustopher said:
So can you boot the clean ROM, start Google Maps and Google Maps alone, close it down and have it close cleanly? That is to say, no battery drain?
I must admit I fight a little shy of Maps since my Latitude experience but I have used it and I'm not aware of the behaviour you are seeing.
If you run the clean ROM for a while without anything else running I assume all is well?
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As soon as I start Google Maps it will run indefinitely in the background. But as long as I don't run anything Google Maps related then there's no problem (it doesn't autostart or anything).
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As soon as I start Google Maps it will run indefinitely in the background. But as long as I don't run anything Google Maps related then there's no problem (it doesn't autostart or anything).
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It's the 'Google Maps related' bit that I'm interested in. What are you counting as Google Maps related?
If you only open Google Maps what happens? Same thing?
What (if any) other apps are causing this to happen? Can you list everything that triggers this behaviour.
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It's the 'Google Maps related' bit that I'm interested in. What are you counting as Google Maps related?
If you only open Google Maps what happens? Same thing?
What (if any) other apps are causing this to happen? Can you list everything that triggers this behaviour.
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So far I've tested with Google Maps, Latitude and Navigation and they are all affected by the same issue.
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So far I've tested with Google Maps, Latitude and Navigation and they are all affected by the same issue.
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...and if you don't start any of these you don't get the issue, correct? Just want to eliminate something else logging you onto Maps as Latitude is prone to do.
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...and if you don't start any of these you don't get the issue, correct? Just want to eliminate something else logging you onto Maps as Latitude is prone to do.
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Exactly. If I never start any of these there's zero issues.
Hmmmn, that is odd then.
I'm not aware of issues with Maps but I'll have a play with it on my own phone and see if I can replicate.
I had this on KK5.
On KJ3 and previous ones, there are no problems.
Hello,
I see google maps show up in the battery info stats when I haven't touched it. For example, I power off my phone in the evening, charge it and then power it back on before bed. When I wake up 7hrs later, I see google maps has used 7-8% of battery and the phone has lost 15% battery.
I have all location services turned on. I don't have any location-based weather, and I've logged into and turned off lattitude.
I do have yahoo news ticker on the home screen but as far as I know, it isn't location-aware...
Does anyone have any advice on what to try next?
google map is always running in the background , you can disable it when not in use
See if you are logged on to latitude. If yes sign out. It will save you a lot of battery life.
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omeryounos said:
See if you are logged on to latitude. If yes sign out. It will save you a lot of battery life.
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Yeah, I already tried that. Twice. It seems to take maps off the battery stats for 7-8hrs but it pops right back. The only apps I'd use in that time frame are:
exchange mail+ calendar
gmail + google calendar
yahoo news ticker
google music (on-device music only)
fancy widget (clock + weather). location disabled
None of those are location-aware and yet maps pops right back on the battery.
Aimara said:
google map is always running in the background , you can disable it when not in use
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Are you seeing the same on your phone? Why would you think that it is constantly running? There must be some reason why it insists on doing some work in the background and I'm trying to figure what that is.
anyone know where I can get a the STOCK Maps app? THe one i'm using with the ROM its on keeps saying the same road name even when I drive it never changes and its very annoying.
I have been having a problem that has been plaguing me through 2 roms and 5 or 6 wipes now. I am on the latest firmware, profile, and prl. It gets quite hot, and can drain a battery (with the screen off!) in four to five hours.
I think the screenshots speak for themselves, but I am having trouble narrowing down the real reason.
I'm running superjelly m4. The only apps I use a lot are chrome and Facebook with notifications off). (Though I had Facebook completely uninstalled for a month, and this still happened during that time).
Any ideas on which part of Google services might be keeping this thing awake?
Thanks...
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Using widgets or location based services? Like weather. Either way get titanium backup pro and make Google play store and services a user app. The get the app Greenify and add them to its list. Hope it helps
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If you are using Google now that should be the "offender", if not get better battery stats app and find what's keeping awake your phone... Good luck!
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I've also noticed that Google hangouts is pretty rough on the old battery life. I always made sure I was signed out of Google talk because I rarely used it. Hangouts seems to drain battery even if you aren't signed in, so I ended up removing it, and battery life has been much better since.
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I have been having a problem that has been plaguing me through 2 roms and 5 or 6 wipes now. I am on the latest firmware, profile, and prl. It gets quite hot, and can drain a battery (with the screen off!) in four to five hours.
I think the screenshots speak for themselves, but I am having trouble narrowing down the real reason.
I'm running superjelly m4. The only apps I use a lot are chrome and Facebook with notifications off). (Though I had Facebook completely uninstalled for a month, and this still happened during that time).
Any ideas on which part of Google services might be keeping this thing awake?
Thanks...
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Although I am not having Battery Drain from Google Services. ( I usually can go 14-16 hours) I have noticed that Google Services is up to about 50% of battery usage. I am using Google Now, but on a Friends phone with all the same settings selected his is only about 20%.
Turn off GPS unless your using it. Google seems like its constantly checking in for location
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sladehawke said:
I have been having a problem that has been plaguing me through 2 roms and 5 or 6 wipes now. I am on the latest firmware, profile, and prl. It gets quite hot, and can drain a battery (with the screen off!) in four to five hours.
I think the screenshots speak for themselves, but I am having trouble narrowing down the real reason.
I'm running superjelly m4. The only apps I use a lot are chrome and Facebook with notifications off). (Though I had Facebook completely uninstalled for a month, and this still happened during that time).
Any ideas on which part of Google services might be keeping this thing awake?
Thanks...
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I once read that its Google Backup Transport thats draining the battery? Try deleting that and rebooting?
Bear with me. If you are an expert on android maybe you can help me out here. First off, I have researched the crap out of this problem and still been unable to fix it, so YES, I did search before making this thread.
I am on a stock, rooted Verizon Galaxy S4. I have been watching my battery consumption carefully via the integrated battery settings menu, battery stats plus and wakelock detector apps. Mainly, there is a program or set of programs that typically is called "Google Services" that according to the integrated battery menu is consuming anywhere between 20-45% of my battery, sometimes more than the screen on time! My battery life is around 48hrs with 10hrs screen time but that is on the massive zerolemon 7500mah battery which I just bought, so I am not sure if that is above, below or just average (i.e. I have no real standard by which to judge).
Like I said I have read probably every thread about this problem with remedies such as; disable location, turn off google now, turn off google maps reporting, uninstall updates for google play/google play services/google framework settings, turn off google sync etc. I have tried them ALL, none seem to work. I have a feeling the issue is perhaps more in depth and above my head.
It gets more complicated. Although the stock android integrated battery menu reports it as using a massive amount of battery, the other two apps I mentioned above do not even report it, or at least not under a name that I regonize (perhaps that categorize it under a different process?). Under them screen time is by far the highest consumer.
So what to make of this? Is it a false report that the stock integrated android battery menu is reporting, and thus something to disregard? I doubt that because there are many other threads out there of people with the same problem and questions I have. But It's also not like my battery drains within hours. For instance, today I have been off the charge for 12.5hrs, with 3hrs and 40min of screen time and have 63% remaining on the 7500mah zerolemon extended battery.
If you can help, please do. If this is indeed a major drain I would really like to fix it.
EDIT: Maybe I should have posted this in the general S4 forum?
Make sure you're running the most recent version of the Play Store, version 4.1.10. There was an issue with the previous version that was causing battery drain. Just do a search for the most recent play store .apk file and install it with the package installer.
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Make sure you're running the most recent version of the Play Store, version 4.1.10. There was an issue with the previous version that was causing battery drain. Just do a search for the most recent play store .apk file and install it with the package installer.
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Yes! I saw this recommendation a million times. I was runing 4.1.6, which without much thought I assumed was newer than 4.1.10 (I interpreted the .10 to be a one instead of ten). But after your post it "clicked" for me, so I manually updated the play store and will see after the next charge whether it worked. Thanks again.
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Yes! I saw this recommendation a million times. I was runing 4.1.6, which without much thought I assumed was newer than 4.1.10 (I interpreted the .10 to be a one instead of ten). But after your post it "clicked" for me, so I manually updated the play store and will see after the next charge whether it worked. Thanks again.
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Make sure you're running the most recent version of the Play Store, version 4.1.10. There was an issue with the previous version that was causing battery drain. Just do a search for the most recent play store .apk file and install it with the package installer.
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So it looks like this did NOT work for me. Google services is still draining my battery.
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So it looks like this did NOT work for me. Google services is still draining my battery.
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If it were me, I would next try flashing the no-wipe stock image from open1your1eyes0. I'm pretty sure that will fix your issue while leaving your apps & settings intact. It'll save you a lot of time and aggrevation as well.
I've been having a similar problem as well where every day google services seem to take up about 40% of my battery... I just updated to 4.1.10 play store and unchecked the Wifi & Mobile Network location in location setting yesterday evening. let see if this helps... today 3 hrs with no Google Services in my battery reading yet...
DA717 said:
I've been having a similar problem as well where every day google services seem to take up about 40% of my battery... I just updated to 4.1.10 play store and unchecked the Wifi & Mobile Network location in location setting yesterday evening. let see if this helps... today 3 hrs with no Google Services in my battery reading yet...
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Well, I may have spoken too soon with my above post. As soon as I unplugged my phone earlier today I saw google services eating up the majority of my battery. But of course that only accounted for 1 or 2 minutes as I had just unplugged it. As the day progressed the amount used by google services did go up but not by as much as it previously had. So perhaps the update of google play store to 4.1.10 did work.
Currently, after being off the charger for 8hrs with about 1hr of screentime google services has used up 9% of the battery, which although not where I'd hoped is still much better than before.
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Well, I may have spoken too soon with my above post. As soon as I unplugged my phone earlier today I saw google services eating up the majority of my battery. But of course that only accounted for 1 or 2 minutes as I had just unplugged it. As the day progressed the amount used by google services did go up but not by as much as it previously had. So perhaps the update of google play store to 4.1.10 did work.
Currently, after being off the charger for 8hrs with about 1hr of screentime google services has used up 9% of the battery, which although not where I'd hoped is still much better than before.
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well thats progress. As for myself, 1hr 27m screentime and 1 hr 40m voice call and off the charger for 10hrs 30mins. currently the battery is at 65% with no Google Services usage in sight. This is with Wifi, bt, and gps all enabled.
Go to data usage and tap on EACH program you do not need to have running background data and disable the background data. I only leave things unchecked like google play and services, email, just only a couple of things needed to get your messages. I freeze maps untill i need them and only have google location service on and gps and VZW off obviously. I only have email sync once an hour and only work email as i manually check for personal email.
Do that and your google services will behave. Android System never goes above 2% and Android OS is never above 5% unless im using wifi and such then it might creep up to about 9% after a few hours. Nothing else is ever above 9% unless its screen or device idle or cell standby.
Well, according to the stock battery report google services is still eating up my battery at 34% usage at 2h 19m. I unplugged 13h ago and used 2h 42m of screen time and am down to 28%.
BatteryStatsPlus reports google services as "Google Account Management", and although it says it has used the same time (2h 19m), it reports it as having used 6.42%. So I wonder if this is an issue of the stock battery report being too high, or whether google services really does consume 34%?
I'd really prefer to not start flashing things or wiping the phone. I hate messing with it and although I rooted it that is as far as I'd like to go. But that google play store 4.1.10 update didn't work.