Hello there !
As a first time user of Android coming from an iPhone 4 with iOS 5.x I was amazed by the SGS III that I own.
So far, so good.
However I have a huge issue that is really starting to get on my nerve : why the hell I cannot keep my apps running in the background ?
I had friends trying to convince me to go to android, saying how it's rocking, how it's multitasking is awesome ... WHAT MULTITASKING ?
Many of you may know, but iOS finally brought multitasking with iOS 4, something people said that was really lacking to iOS when Android had it for a long time - let me laugh.
Well, let's be honest. Yes there is some sort of multitasking thanks to services that are not killed by the system, but I do not use them, I only need them to perform to do wahtever they are supposed to do.
And also between your recently launched apps as long as you keep switching between them in a very short amount of time.
And that is all.
So iOS 4 brought multitasking on a phone with only 256Mb of RAM (iPhone 4) and with only that much, I managed to keep running three games : Lords & Knights MMO, Wolrd War and iMob. They are not 3D games so they do not use too much RAM as would do a 3D game such as NOVA. And, the cool stuff is that the multitasking on iOS keep the apps as long as there is free RAM (I even managed to go as down as 17Mb, and then the system killed some (not all !) of my apps !)
That was really nice. Before iOS 4, I had to relaunch them each time a notification brought me back to them (they are internet dependant games). And with iOS 4 and then 5 and today 6, I can enjoy switching between them without lag, without relaunching as long there is free RAM.
With android, I CANNOT DO SUCH ACTIONS. Even if ICS is nice, fast on the SGS III, when it comes to multitasking I feel like I have been brought back to iOS3 on my iPhone 3 and 3Gs (thank God, SGS III is fast enough to relaunch the apps in not time, but stil...)
As I said, I launch my game, go back to home screen, lock the phone, unlock it minutes after and the games are gone. ALL OF THEM.
Here is what I found out in order to solve this situation :
- based on the kernel version and model, android will keep killing apps that are not services after a few minutes in the background ;
- my games that I want to keep running do not offer the possibility to keep them alive in the background ;
- I tried many apps (ram manager pro, auto memory etc...) none of them helpt me although they did offer features that would be the answer I as been looking for.
- I heard scripts would solve this situation, but I dot not know any of them.
So what is next ?
It is simple : I would like to have an app, or a tweak or script or anything else, but easy to use, that will help me keeping some of my apps alive in the background.
Thanks to anyone who could help me out with this.
PS: I have an international SGS III wit CM 9 running on it.
CM Version is : 9-20120909-NIGHTLY-i9300
Kernel version is : 3.0.15-CM-g026d5ce [email protected] #1
Build version is : cm:i9300-userdebug 4.04 IMM76L eng. .20120909.083444 test-keys
Android version is : 4.0.4
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Is there anyone who can help ? I am totally lost here ...
Mackovich said:
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Lost and breaking rules by bumping posts .
jje
I am sorry. I did not really know that I was "bumping" my thread when it was on second page.
Who comes check on second page to answer, anyway ? I think most people do not ... unless people here are very generous ! ^^
If it is the rule, I will let go my thread further back in this forum in hope I will get an answer somehow to a matter that has been troubling me for months.
It can not be done as far as I know.
A few hacks/apps try to lower the oom value of apps, but it only last for a limited timeperiod.
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kbkrogs said:
It can not be done as far as I know.
A few hacks/apps try to lower the oom value of apps, but it only last for a limited timeperiod.
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Is this some sort of a joke ? Are you saying that even though I have plenty of free RAM I cannot use them to run apps in the background ?
This is ridiculous to say the least. Where is the multi-tasking ?
Anyway, thanks for replying.
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hi, i just a bought a motorola Photon for my CDMA number .
im a long time user of Blackberry, and iPhone
i still use my Blackberry 9900 for my GSM number
and traded my iPhone for an iPad
anyway, this is my first ever android device.
so can you guys tell me what should i do with it to make my experience with this platform be better ?
eg:
how to upgrade to latest firmware or software
hot to maximize the phone capabilities
and how to install games and apps ?
please pardon me as i never use any android device before so i'm quite "blind" here
but I'm into tweaking the phone that i had
i've jailbreaked my iPhone and my iPad and i've upgraded my Blackberrys several time over the years , so i guess I'm not so novice in this gadgets world.
i just need some guidance
thank you so much
check out thils link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393519
also when i first got started i watched some of qbking77's videos on youtube. they can help you out a lot. he has videos on unlocking the bootloader, rooting, and even rom reviews. check it out
Mm I highly suggest you download these apps and youll love ur phone 10 times more, go to the market download 4shared mobile, tjen open 4shared mobile and register, in 4shared search adw ex and download it, it may be under adw ex launcher. Then in 4shared search chompsms and download that, 4shared is like limewire but for apks on android(make sure is .apk). A launcher is what handles your home screen and app drawer, adw ex is very costumizable, chompsms is my favorite app for costumizing my text messaging app, but you will have to disable your stock text app in the apps settings so you wont get two notifications for every text. Dolphin browser hd is free in google play, good browser. Also in 4shared for better widgets download beautiful widgets, and for costumizable trigger widgets download widgetsoid from 4shared(i use this widget constantly to turn off 3g, gps, wifi, my led flashlight, screen rotation, all from my homescreen. Themes for adw launcher are in google play.
Granted others my suggest a different launcher sms etc, but these are GREAT apps with very few flaws and give you a much more customizable phone and see some of what android is all about
For games, in 4shared download hyperjump or radiant hd or guns n glory theyre all pretty good games to get ya started! this all may seem like a lot to do but its worth it I promise! Hope I helped give you a running start into the android world its a pretty vast one.
PS: widgetlocker is a great app for costumizing your lock screen! (4shared not googleplay)
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My suggestion would be to first get comfortable playing around with settings and apps on the stock (normal, no-root) version of Android.
Then, if you're still "hungry for more" or curious (and not too worried about warranty issues), look at rooting the stock version. What this can add is user-controlled underclocking (power savings), app backup/bloatware removal capabilities, and some other nifty things. It's worth checking out the "All things Photon" rexxxgg posted to get a few ideas.
The next step up the ladder is unlocking the bootloader, installing a custom recovery, and then installing a custom ROM. It's slightly higher risk than rooting, especially if you're not comfortable with RSD-mode/flashing SBFs (if you don't understand what I'm saying, make sure you read about it!), but also high reward. Custom ROMs, like CyanogenMod and MIUI, are designed to really take advantage of everything Android can and should be, IMO. BUT you really need to do some reading to understand the risks of rooting and ROM-ing first. The phone companies definitely do not have your back once you decide to take the plunge (as you may be well aware with from jailbreaking and such)!
Everything I posted is about as much costumizating you can do without root
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okay thx for the advices
I'm thinking to load a ROM
can anyone give me idea which one to load ?
i want the most stable build
should i flash with STOCK rom or Custom ROM ?
and which version ?
thank you.
which roms?
i liked, shadow, rocko rom, homebase, and cm9. none of these are stock, but homebase is very very close, the others offer more customization!
cm9 is a very stable rom i just love it. joker even got the camera working.
Did you just flash cm9? Or have you been on that for a while?
Hi folks,I hope I'm in the right forum for this (otherwise could a moderator move this topic ? thanks).
I was thinking of the well-known build.prop trick to force the home launcher into RAM :
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
I was wondering if the same trick could be used to force other apps into RAM. I'm no expert, but assuming the command is ro.[NAMEOFTHEAPP_APP]_ADJ=1 , we could have for example :
# Messages app :
ro.CONVERSATIONS_APP_ADJ=1
# Phonebook app :
ro.PHONEBOOK_APP_ADJ=1
# Telephone app :
???
I have been told this trick wouldn't be necessary because these 3 apps are auto-reloaded into RAM. Well, all I know is that within my GB Arc S, these 3 apps are fast after a reboot, and become very sluggish some time after. I guess they wouldn't if they were really forced to remain into RAM !
Sure, in case of a lack of RAM, other apps would become slow. But I'd still prefer if the three apps that I use most were fast and the other ones were slow, than the other way around.
Could you please help me with these commands ? Thank you.
no possible in any way... + that "hack" is old and does not work anymore (ICS+)
That "hack" works under GB, which is great since I'm running GB right now and I don't intend to go ICS or JB for the moment. :angel:
This being said, I'd appreciate if you'd explain why under GB it isn't "possible in any way" for the above-mentioned apps, while it's possible for the Home launcher. Just trying to learn something here. Thanks.
(thanks to Sgt. Slaughter for moving the topic to the right section)
Hey folks, would it be possible to get a decent answer ? I think my above question is clear enough and deserves it for those like me who run GB...
Thanks again !
hi all! İts my frist thread i have some troubles whit my s3 multi tasking when i press home button after 5-6 sc apps restarts it self i dont get it. İt have multiwindow but its not enough simple homebutton multi tasking is more importent when i close the screen or background the navigation app it stops giving me directions couz its closed help me please i found some people having this problem but i coudnt find any solutions
these are my settings
limit background option standard
limit background activities not selected
check out some multitasking scripts in development
Glebun said:
check out some multitasking scripts in development
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i did flash multitaskingfix 7 but it didnt solve my problem why no1 helps me?my friends nexus 4 have way better multitasking what kind of smartphone is this?u are telling me to look dev section but no1 mentioned from this problem in the internet thx for nothing guyz
you're welcome.
zulfikars3 said:
i did flash multitaskingfix 7 but it didnt solve my problem why no1 helps me?my friends nexus 4 have way better multitasking what kind of smartphone is this?u are telling me to look dev section but no1 mentioned from this problem in the internet thx for nothing guyz
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With that attitude you won't get anywhere, you can't just come here, click your fingers, and people jump to your service.
For a start your initial post is virtually incomprehensible, so maybe start by trying to clarify what your problem is
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With that attitude you won't get anywhere, you can't just come here, click your fingers, and people jump to your service.
For a start your initial post is virtually incomprehensible, so maybe start by trying to clarify what your problem is
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maybe i m newbie here but when i see some1 i can help i help them first i did open in the wrong section people say nothin but go to help section and in here nothin usefull i m not angry couz i m not responded i m angry couz people make responses that doesnt help my problem is simple apps are restating after a while they are not crashing they just restarts and i m thinking its couz of ram-rom management.
the reason nexus 4 will have better multitasking will be because its vanilla so has no bloatware and also it has 2 gb of ram where sgs3 has 1. most roms have some sort of multitasking fix and scripts to help free ram if thats what your asking. for example on the rom i use i have 200mb free most of the time.
Ryanscobberwash said:
the reason nexus 4 will have better multitasking will be because its vanilla so has no bloatware and also it has 2 gb of ram where sgs3 has 1. most roms have some sort of multitasking fix and scripts to help free ram if thats what your asking. for example on the rom i use i have 200mb free most of the time.
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its so bad that simple multi tasking is not doing its job. i m using ultimarom 10 i allwayz have 250 mb free but its never enuogh
First of all greetings XDA community. I am new here but ever since I got my android and found this website I've been checking and searching for needed information, up until now I never had the need to register or post. So thanks for the help and information I've already found in other threads and other topics
The reason I needed to make an actual post here, is because I don't exactly have a precise question. I understand this may be a subject of discussion, so I wanted to hear the opinion of people with more experience and knowledge.
I have a Samsung Galaxy W, for probably less than a year. I understood that at the time of purchase the phone itself was already "outdated".
However this didn't concern me, I wanted a phone just so I could access the Internet anytime needed just to read some stuff or google something I may need as well as checking fb and twitter. For larger and more resource-consuming apps I would use my tablet (a Sony S).
In a nutshell: I want my android for browsing the Internet and checking fb and twitter. I would use it as an mp3 and to play some casual games to burn some time (angry birds, solitare, bejwelled, Jetpack Joyride and so forth).
By the way, I would like to (at the risk of getting sidetracked) ask you for some recommendations on browsers for android. I know Chrome is probably by far the best, but sadly the Galaxy W can't run Chrome. I've tried Dolphin, Opera, Ninesky... but nothing that would fully satisfy me (like Chrome).
The issue: As of late my phone as been slowing down and dragging itself a bit too much. Something as simple as opening the messages, something you'd expect to be instantaneous, takes some painful seconds under a black screen.
I couldn't deal with the keyboard (this is my first touchscreen phone) so I tested and bought SwiftKey which made typing a lot easier, but sometimes it also takes a while to see the keyboard appear.
Some of my apps (might be relevant): Juice Defender, 3G Watchdog, Facebook, Twitter, TweetDeck, tomtom Places, and some apps that are forced by the carrier.
I use Clean Master and I even try to, sometimes, kill iddle tasks of things I don't need, but it feels pointless since the phone just drags and slows even more as he restarts the closed apps again.
I think that using a different ROM might help my issue, and I have some questions:
1- Do you think using a Jelly Bean (or ICS) Cyanogen mod might improve the speed on my phone (pardon if I'm saying some barbarity in here)
2- If I install a Jelly Bean or ICS ROM will I be able to downolad and install Chrome from the store?
3- The phone is unlocked (meaning I can use other SIM cards from any carriers in it). Will the ROM undo this and force the phone back to it's original carrier?
4- The phone is rooted. This is kinda silly but I'd like to be sure. Will a new ROM un-root my phone?
I think that's it. Sorry for the long post. I wanted to make sure I wrote all the relevant information to make sure I get the right answer :fingers-crossed:
Thank you, looking forward to read your replies :highfive:
I forgot to mention, for some time i used the ex go launcher. It worked the same as the default theme. It takes sometime to load at first but after loading the transitions are smooth and everything works fine... until i open an app or do something big.
Lately (read, today) the call button was a bit laggy and i did not like it one bit.
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Thaenor said:
First of all greetings XDA community. I am new here but ever since I got my android and found this website I've been checking and searching for needed information, up until now I never had the need to register or post. So thanks for the help and information I've already found in other threads and other topics
The reason I needed to make an actual post here, is because I don't exactly have a precise question. I understand this may be a subject of discussion, so I wanted to hear the opinion of people with more experience and knowledge.
I have a Samsung Galaxy W, for probably less than a year. I understood that at the time of purchase the phone itself was already "outdated".
However this didn't concern me, I wanted a phone just so I could access the Internet anytime needed just to read some stuff or google something I may need as well as checking fb and twitter. For larger and more resource-consuming apps I would use my tablet (a Sony S).
In a nutshell: I want my android for browsing the Internet and checking fb and twitter. I would use it as an mp3 and to play some casual games to burn some time (angry birds, solitare, bejwelled, Jetpack Joyride and so forth).
By the way, I would like to (at the risk of getting sidetracked) ask you for some recommendations on browsers for android. I know Chrome is probably by far the best, but sadly the Galaxy W can't run Chrome. I've tried Dolphin, Opera, Ninesky... but nothing that would fully satisfy me (like Chrome).
The issue: As of late my phone as been slowing down and dragging itself a bit too much. Something as simple as opening the messages, something you'd expect to be instantaneous, takes some painful seconds under a black screen.
I couldn't deal with the keyboard (this is my first touchscreen phone) so I tested and bought SwiftKey which made typing a lot easier, but sometimes it also takes a while to see the keyboard appear.
Some of my apps (might be relevant): Juice Defender, 3G Watchdog, Facebook, Twitter, TweetDeck, tomtom Places, and some apps that are forced by the carrier.
I use Clean Master and I even try to, sometimes, kill iddle tasks of things I don't need, but it feels pointless since the phone just drags and slows even more as he restarts the closed apps again.
I think that using a different ROM might help my issue, and I have some questions:
1- Do you think using a Jelly Bean (or ICS) Cyanogen mod might improve the speed on my phone (pardon if I'm saying some barbarity in here)
2- If I install a Jelly Bean or ICS ROM will I be able to downolad and install Chrome from the store?
3- The phone is unlocked (meaning I can use other SIM cards from any carriers in it). Will the ROM undo this and force the phone back to it's original carrier?
4- The phone is rooted. This is kinda silly but I'd like to be sure. Will a new ROM un-root my phone?
I think that's it. Sorry for the long post. I wanted to make sure I wrote all the relevant information to make sure I get the right answer :fingers-crossed:
Thank you, looking forward to read your replies :highfive:
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Hi .
I just saw this forum. and came across a topic related to upgrading Galaxy W to kitkat unofficially. How about your 'quest? lol.
Hey guys going to make a ROM for the LG Optimus Zone what do ypu think i should add to it
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What's the general idea?
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Hey guys going to make a ROM for the LG Optimus Zone what do ypu think i should add to it
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What's your general idea? Is it gonna be based on a certain Android Platform? I'd like to see a Kit-Kat ROM since Kit-Kat is under development by Android.
Good idea actually im trying to make roms for avrage and below avrage android phones
13yr old dev
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What's your general idea? Is it gonna be based on a certain Android Platform? I'd like to see a Kit-Kat ROM since Kit-Kat is under development by Android.
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I know I am waiting for release...
What is really needed is better multitasking, especially as the number of tablets running Android grows. I mean have it so that apps can run on a portion of the screen at half third or quarter size, so they can be used simultaneously. Maybe it needs to be more like an extension of the widget functionality, where each widget is basically a full app running. So you could have a word processor, pdf reader, and browser window open at once. Or phone and sms, or youtube and file explorer, music and a simple game. I think Windows Mobile can do this in some limited way.
It feels like people obsess over minor changes to the appearance of the OS or arrangement of a particular app, and forget that you need to rethink some of the most basic aspects of the UI from time to time to stay competitive as an OS.