[Sprint Reps] Switching Between Evo 3D & Evo 4G LTE Service - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

Every once in a while I go out hiking or to the lake or some dangerous (for my phone) place with friends or family. I haven't gone anywhere yet since I've had my LTE but one trip is coming up soon. Here's the thing though, I don't feel comfortable taking my LTE in case something happens to it but I still have my 3D and would like to take that one instead.
Here's the question:
Can I easily switch between the LTE and 3D using Sprints online "Activate a new phone" feature? Also is there a monthly limit to how many times I can swap devices?
I know it wasn't a problem before (with CDMA devices) I just don't know if LTE devices are activated in a different way and if it would cause problems when switching the activation. I'd rather not call every time because it's more convenient to switch it online.
I would normally try this out but since I haven't had my 3D activated on this account I'd get an activation fee and I don't want that until I know for sure I can use it back and forth. Normally I'd ask a rep but the chat is offline atm and I hate waiting on the phone for one.

Racer Of All said:
Every once in a while I go out hiking or to the lake or some dangerous (for my phone) place with friends or family. I haven't gone anywhere yet since I've had my LTE but one trip is coming up soon. Here's the thing though, I don't feel comfortable taking my LTE in case something happens to it but I still have my 3D and would like to take that one instead.
Here's the question:
Can I easily switch between the LTE and 3D using Sprints online "Activate a new phone" feature? Also is there a monthly limit to how many times I can swap devices?
I know it wasn't a problem before (with CDMA devices) I just don't know if LTE devices are activated in a different way and if it would cause problems when switching the activation. I'd rather not call every time because it's more convenient to switch it online.
I would normally try this out but since I haven't had my 3D activated on this account I'd get an activation fee and I don't want that until I know for sure I can use it back and forth. Normally I'd ask a rep but the chat is offline atm and I hate waiting on the phone for one.
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Well speaking from one who knows...I have done the switching thing too numerous times to count! I always get the upgrades for whatever plan member is up for an upgrade and I keep the new phone and pass down the old one (since I pay the upgrade). Plus, I always have somebody on the plan that has a broken phone and need to switch to backup and then back (there are two accounts and 7 family members).
You will only get the activation fee when opening a new line of service with a new phone or buying a new phone as an upgrade. Switching between phones that you already own has never charged me a dime. And there is no difference in terms of your purposes (4g vs. LTE) in switching those two phones.
Good Luck

greek goddess said:
Well speaking from one who knows...I have done the switching thing too numerous times to count! I always get the upgrades for whatever plan member is up for an upgrade and I keep the new phone and pass down the old one (since I pay the upgrade). Plus, I always have somebody on the plan that has a broken phone and need to switch to backup and then back (there are two accounts and 7 family members).
You will only get the activation fee when opening a new line of service with a new phone or buying a new phone as an upgrade. Switching between phones that you already own has never charged me a dime. And there is no difference in terms of your purposes (4g vs. LTE) in switching those two phones.
Good Luck
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Awesome thanks for the reply at least now I know that I can switch as many times as I want and there will be no activation fee.
The only thing they worries me is that this got brought up once before but we never got an answer as to the whole LTE/Wimax thing. I just remember reading somewhere that they were two different "plans" and swapping lte/Wimax devices wasn't adviced.
Sent from my EVO LTE

Racer Of All said:
Awesome thanks for the reply at least now I know that I can switch as many times as I want and there will be no activation fee.
The only thing they worries me is that this got brought up once before but we never got an answer as to the whole LTE/Wimax thing. I just remember reading somewhere that they were two different "plans" and swapping lte/Wimax devices wasn't adviced.
Sent from my EVO LTE
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Switching from my old Wimax shift, there wasn't any plan change. I couldn't activate it online and I did have to call, but was told that was only because lte/wimax looked different in their system and they had to manually switch it over.
You shouldn't have a problem other than maybe having to give Sprint a call ^^

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[Q] Using Sprint EVO 3D in ROK?

I've got a question here, and I'm hoping someone could help me out. I'm about to get shipped over to South Korea for a year and have an EVO 3D that I just picked up in July. It would be a shame to have my nice new phone become nothing more than a small wifi only tablet, but I am still bringing it overseas with me. If anything I know that when I'm within range of a wifi connection I can still Skype with my wife back home, but being able to use it as a real phone as well would be pretty awesome. So does anyone here know if my phone will work with any carriers over in the ROK? Thanks in advance guys.
I just returned from a trip from Malaysia, Cambodia, and Thailand. I had a laptop with me but I never used it, I would just use my phones Wi-fi for just about everything.
Going to Korea, you will find Wifi everywhere there and the eveo3d will nice to have if you dont have a tablet. I tried google phone and could not get it to work, I kinda knew it would not but tried for the fun of it. I did not try skype, but if you can use it on wifi here then it should work over there, without problem.
GPS works without problems too, as long as you have a cached copy of the area on the phone.
They use different carriers over there that make it hard to use our phone. I almost got this thing to work in Guam, but after a few days I gave up.
Would be awesome if someone has figured it out though. Keep us posted if you find something!
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They use different carriers over there that make it hard to use our phone. I almost got this thing to work in Guam, but after a few days I gave up.
Would be awesome if someone has figured it out though. Keep us posted if you find something!
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I think you would need a SIM card to get it to work and Sprint does not use SIM cards.
roflmywaffle said:
I've got a question here, and I'm hoping someone could help me out. I'm about to get shipped over to South Korea for a year and have an EVO 3D that I just picked up in July. It would be a shame to have my nice new phone become nothing more than a small wifi only tablet, but I am still bringing it overseas with me. If anything I know that when I'm within range of a wifi connection I can still Skype with my wife back home, but being able to use it as a real phone as well would be pretty awesome. So does anyone here know if my phone will work with any carriers over in the ROK? Thanks in advance guys.
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I have a sprint EVO 3D which i use on Reliance (carrier) in India. I purchased it from ebay . It was officially flashed to reliance from sprint. Look for it on ebay or Ask any service center for that.
Been a long time since I was in the ROK (1989). You probably wouldn't want to use a cell phone to call the states due to the shear costs, especially when you have Skype at no cost and has video. Or other tools like facebook, instant messenger, etc. Back in the day only had a land line that was super expense to call back to the states.
You might see if you can find yourself strictly an SMS device to keep in touch back home - of course you have to keep track of the time difference too.
Have you contacted your sponser and asked them what facilities are available. Depends where you ultimately end up too.
Well, ill have my phone over there anyways so ill ask sprint about it and also look into it when I get there. I was thinking it would be useful for cabs, coworkers, and friends while over there. Lookin forward to my time over there, though. Maybe ill be able snag some galaxy 3s or something along those lines right before coming back.
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I haven't been there since 2000 but most places over there use sim card get your self a cheap phone to use or buy a gsm EVO 3d and you would be good to go
I've made several trips to the ROK in the past few months... I recommend getting a local cell for your day to day calling and use your 3d to Skype via wifi.
I was able to get a signal but didn't want the crazy chargers spirit would add so I used my 3d w/ wifi Skype thing...
As far as having wifi all over, many of the military bases had it in the food courts... I'm not sure about the local areas...
our govt BB's worked for calls but data was, well, so slow not worth it..
Good luck and enjoy your time there. If you get the chance, have your family visit, definitely a unique experience!
Oh and eat at the maple leaf bbq outside of yongsong, the dhl will have directions... Amazing!
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Been a long time since I was in the ROK (1989). You probably wouldn't want to use a cell phone to call the states due to the shear costs, especially when you have Skype at no cost and has video. Or other tools like facebook, instant messenger, etc. Back in the day only had a land line that was super expense to call back to the states.
You might see if you can find yourself strictly an SMS device to keep in touch back home - of course you have to keep track of the time difference too.
Have you contacted your sponser and asked them what facilities are available. Depends where you ultimately end up too.
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We were in the ROK, at the same time...Left Nov 1989

I love Sprint

Seen so many *****es about Sprint I thought I'd share.
Only company with unlimited data.
Only company with SERO (I have original SERO and SERO Premium).
Even without SERO my daughter and my sister both switched from Verizon and got very close to SERO Premium prices.
So I have one phone on SERO original that is qualified for upgrade.
And by wobbly EVO 3D (due to VM leak, at no fault of Sprints, just mine) that is not qualified for upgrade for some time on SERO Premium.
So I used the chat to ask if I could use Touch PRO 2 upgrade for an EVO 4G LTE to replace the EVO 3D.
She said yes. But I lose the return policy and any mail in rebate.
Turns out it's all instant Rebate.
Then I asked if I upgrade it on the Touch PRO 2 (online) will it force me to upgrade it's plan.
She said no.
I said I was worried it might change it.
And she came back and asked me if it was on SERO.
She knew exactly what I was worried about. I had not given them any account info.
It only changes the plan when you activate. And I will activate it on my EVO 3D line.
She also said if I did it in a store (I think because it's SERO) it would of upgraded the plan.
I forgot to save discussion. But they emailed it to me !!!
I did the online upgrade and it stated exactly what she said that the plan would not upgrade unless activated on that line. Very clearly layed.
It clearly showed no plan change.
Excellent service !!!
Not the fasted network. But good enough for my needs and doesn't break the bank.
And usually offers great phones.
A lot of times you here about the shortcomings of Sprint so its good to hear the opposite side of the coin sometimes. Glad to hear everything worked out for ya.
I dont get the point of this post.
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I dont get the point of this post.
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How could you not, you meant to say this post does not interest you so you're going to add a pointless post.
Glad you had a good experience with them, mine was unsatisfactory
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its good to know everything worked out for you.. i wish i had that sorta of luck
So Sprint did what should be expected and that is commendable? Lol
Look at it this way, if it was T-Mobile, you would have just had to pop in the SIM card. No call (or chat), no activation, no concern for plan changes.
Not saying T-Mobile is great, just saying Sprint shouldn't be commended for doing the bare minimum.
You had a line due for an upgrade, they let you upgrade it, and use the phone on another line. Every carrier out there will do this, and most of them don't require any contact with their CS to make sure it's actually possible.
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So Sprint did what should be expected and that is commendable? Lol
Look at it this way, if it was T-Mobile, you would have just had to pop in the SIM card. No call (or chat), no activation, no concern for plan changes.
Not saying T-Mobile is great, just saying Sprint shouldn't be commended for doing the bare minimum.
You had a line due for an upgrade, they let you upgrade it, and use the phone on another line. Every carrier out there will do this, and most of them don't require any contact with their CS to make sure it's actually possible.
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I truly miss this about gsm phones. Over the years I've collected so many gsm phones that friends usually come to me when they lose their phone, cuz I'd give them one to borrow. Just pop in a sim and it's good to go. This is my first cdma phone. God forbid I lose it, esp. at a time when I need to use a phone really bad or something.
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Sprint SERO was the best plan ever! Wish Sprint had kept on with Sero and not let it go.
cool story bro
Yeah, too bad they no longer offer the SERO plans and have so many restrictions on them now. So you have an EVO on a SERO Premium plan, not a plain vanilla SERO, right?
mcguireslaw dot com/2011/01/18/sero-premium-and-premium-data/
I guess that answers the question.
I've thought about doing this. My wife's account is eligible for an upgrade. She doesn't want to upgrade because she wants a phone with a physical keyboard (she has the Epic 4G).
Mine is not eligible, as I bought my 3D when it came out. Can I use my wife's upgrade to get the 4G LTE, and then activate the 4G LTE on my line? I mean, I assumed I could do that, and it sounds like you are saying it's possible, but I wasn't sure. Do I need to give Sprint some special instruction not to activate the phone when I order it? Do they automatically activate it when you buy it (before it gets to you?).
Also, I know it will reset the upgrade period for my wife's account, but it won't for my account, correct?
I don't see another phone with a physical keyboard on the horizon, so I don't feel so bad in taking my wife's upgrade, heh.
sparhawk6 said:
I've thought about doing this. My wife's account is eligible for an upgrade. She doesn't want to upgrade because she wants a phone with a physical keyboard (she has the Epic 4G).
Mine is not eligible, as I bought my 3D when it came out. Can I use my wife's upgrade to get the 4G LTE, and then activate the 4G LTE on my line? I mean, I assumed I could do that, and it sounds like you are saying it's possible, but I wasn't sure. Do I need to give Sprint some special instruction not to activate the phone when I order it? Do they automatically activate it when you buy it (before it gets to you?).
Also, I know it will reset the upgrade period for my wife's account, but it won't for my account, correct?
I don't see another phone with a physical keyboard on the horizon, so I don't feel so bad in taking my wife's upgrade, heh.
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Yes, that's exactly what I did.
No special instructions needed you can do it yourself online.
BUT... you might want to read the news on the 4G LTE. Sprint is no longer accepting pre orders and I suspect prior orders might get canceled. No fault of Sprints.
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cool story bro
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Tell it again
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WozniaksOtherPhone said:
Sprint SERO was the best plan ever! Wish Sprint had kept on with Sero and not let it go.
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Some people sell their SERO plans. Or, if you know someone with SERO, you can add a line to theirs and get I think you can break it off to be your own. I'm still on SERO P, myself.
In my opinion Sprint Blows!!!!! I love Verizon!!!!!!
sprint has been great with me so far.. i lost my evo 4g like 8 months ago and they sent me an 3vo 3d.. i was souped!!!!! them i just got a letter saying i can do an early upgrade!!! sweet!! im gonna wait it out for a bit though.. i have not had any problems with sprint so far.. key words.. if my last year go's by good i will be mos deff signin up for another 2 peice
htcjunkie317 said:
In my opinion Sprint Blows!!!!! I love Verizon!!!!!!
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Who cares.......
seriously, cool story bro.
not.
saying u like sprint because of sero is absolutely useless to the vast majority of sprint subscribers because its not available - not to mention, the vast majority doesn't have the plan.
upgrades on a yearly basis are over with, even for those with huge monthly bills.
network sucks - whats the point of unlimited data when you can't use it?
anyways, glad you like em. I don't. Very unhappy and leaving for verizon soon as a decent quad core with a large screen drops over there.
good luck.
aweskelo said:
seriously, cool story bro.
not.
saying u like sprint because of sero is absolutely useless to the vast majority of sprint subscribers because its not available - not to mention, the vast majority doesn't have the plan.
upgrades on a yearly basis are over with, even for those with huge monthly bills.
network sucks - whats the point of unlimited data when you can't use it?
anyways, glad you like em. I don't. Very unhappy and leaving for verizon soon as a decent quad core with a large screen drops over there.
good luck.
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Enjoy your Verizon bills.
Data works fine for me with Sprint, not blazing but good enough, way better than any GSM provider. Calls do too. Verizon is better but not worth the price. Nor do I like how Verizon locks out features that Sprint phones provide.
A co-worker of mine has Verizon and he pays a fortune for his plan. His phone never ran any faster or more reliable than mine.
I have Verizon FIOS and every chance they get they try to rip me off. Oops sorry for the double billing, oops sorry we forgot to cancel that feature. I hate them.
I was excited because Sprint gave me a brand new $400.00 phone for $35 with no insurance and it was completely my fault.
They often do early upgrades where you don't have to wait 2 full years. And in this case they let me mix my upgrade options.
The only reason I mentioned SERO was because I was impressed the Sprint rep knew about it, why I was concerned I might lose it if I mixed and matched my upgrade options and that their flexibilty might be limited on a SERO plan. It was not the reason why I started this thread. SERO is just icing on the cake. And I'd have Sprint even if I didn't have SERO.
mswlogo said:
Enjoy your Verizon bills.
Data works fine for me with Sprint, not blazing but good enough, way better than any GSM provider. Calls do too. Verizon is better but not worth the price. Nor do I like how Verizon locks out features that Sprint phones provide.
A co-worker of mine has Verizon and he pays a fortune for his plan. His phone never ran any faster or more reliable than mine.
I have Verizon FIOS and every chance they get they try to rip me off. Oops sorry for the double billing, oops sorry we forgot to cancel that feature. I hate them.
I was excited because Sprint gave me a brand new $400.00 phone for $35 with no insurance and it was completely my fault.
They often do early upgrades where you don't have to wait 2 full years. And in this case they let me mix my upgrade options.
The only reason I mentioned SERO was because I was impressed the Sprint rep knew about it, why I was concerned I might lose it if I mixed and matched my upgrade options and that their flexibilty might be limited on a SERO plan. It was not the reason why I started this thread. SERO is just icing on the cake. And I'd have Sprint even if I didn't have SERO.
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For most people your post will be non applicable.
1: Sprint has the slowest data of all the carriers in most areas (according to several independent national tests). If it's faster in your area, just know that you are a rare case and it will be different if you travel to almost any other area. My Sprint 3G is actually slower than dial up (and slower than T-Mobile's throttled data).
2: Sprint is basically the same price as Verizon or AT&T these days. It might be a few bucks cheaper, but nothing significant.
3: T-Mobile is cheaper than Sprint.
4: Sprint's early upgrade program is dead. I know they used to do this in the past, but they killed that program. Now it's 2 years to upgrade, or pay the etf and then you can upgrade early.

[Q] Want to switch to Sprint & need advice

Hello,
We are long time Verizon customers but have had enough of their capricious attitude, the insane recent price hikes and limited data plans. (although we currently have unlimited data). However, my husband's phone was stolen about a month ago and while we're using an old phone for the moment, we need to upgrade it for him. I like Sprint's current business model of unlimited everything (& we plan to sign up for everything data plus from the employees referral to save a bit and get more minutes). We also like the fact that Sprint is a green company and supports more things that we believe in. Yeah, I know that we're giving up the network for a bit until Sprint's Network Vision is completed but I think we can live with that.
Here's my dilemma. There are no Sprint owned stores in our area, just third party stores and only a couple of those so I can't buy through them &get everything data plus... Which is fine because they don't know much at all. I went there to try to see both the Evo 4G LTE side by side with the Samsung Galaxy S3...both working. Unfortunately, they didn't have a working model of the S3 but they opened up a package so I could at least hold them next to each other.
My concern most of all is with the radio quality and reception. I have some serious medical issues so being able to call for help is a frequent need. I took my current phone (HTC Rezound), my husband's Motorola DROID X, and the Evo LTE, and did side by side comparisons of the radios. My Rezound came in top at -80 give or take a few both directions, the DX, at -86 also give/take & the Evo LTE at -97 to -103. I then tried to load a webpage on my Rezound and the Evo. I picked yahoo because it has mixed media &was a first thing that popped into my head. My Rezound loaded the desktop version in less than 20 seconds... The Evo was still attempting to load the mobile version after several minutes.
So, do I believe the story that the mall kiosk has terrible Sprint reception? Was the demo Evo LTE one of the bad first batch? I know that there will be a step back in service speed but this was unbearable. I'm hoping that this isn't the normal for Sprint service... I mean it can't be, right? Right no one would use them.
What I'm unable to find out is what the Samsung Galaxy S3 radio is like compared to the Evo LTE in similar circumstances. I can't afford to get one of the phones, not have it work, pay the restocking fee and a second activation fee. With two lines that's over $200 just to switch away from a defective phone. Is there any leeway given for phones that won't hold a signal... Like allowing us to switch to another phone if the first is defective? I know that the base chipset is the same between the two phones but from what I've read the radios themselves can be different based on the manufacturer. So, I don't know what either the HTC Evo LTE or galaxy S3 would be like on any specific phone and it sounds like there are differences in the batches. What do I do or what would you do? I know we're taking a risk switching to carriers but we want to live authentically and put money into companies that are supporting the things we believe in and shaping their company based upon similar values. We will be having to do a transfer of our Vzw account (assumption of liability) once we're settled into Sprint but not until we're positive it works for us. Then we'll give up our Vzw contract so we don't owe an ETF. It also gives my DH the phone upgrade he needs since his was stolen during one of my medical emergencies. Vzw refused to help us at all through the whole process.
But I digress.
What do you think phone wise? Bad reception? Bad Evo LTE? Would you take a chance on the S3 with Samsung's past radio issues... Do you think that they've improved them? Would you take a chance on getting a bad Evo LTE since HTC /Sprint have admitted to a problem there? Since I can't compare them side by side working or compare radio strengths I really need advice!
Thanks so much in advance!
All the best,
Rae
I just loaded up the yahoo desktop Site on my LTE in about 18 seconds and I have 1 bar and very bad 3G reception in my house.
Radios seem to be just fine on the Evo and from the GSIII. Sure Samsung had issues in the past but I think they have gotten them all squared away. Sprints network is just down right awful but as you said they are working to improve a large coverage area over the next 18 months.
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Wow the was a beating to read but imo the radio is pretty good and I'm sure its getter than the gs3 also overall build quality is getter than the gs3 but if I were you I'd get a gs3 to play with for a little bit and compare side to side. I'm die hard HTC so there was no question for me
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Speeds will differ from city to city. I get 25kbps in my city where the towers are clogged and undergoing maintenance. I was on a road trip this weekend and got 2mbps a few hours from my hometown.
WiFi is your friend
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I tend to agree. I'd get the GSIII too if I were them. I just have a thing for Evo's and HTC.
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Also, if you have high speed internet at home you can get an adaptor for your house to allow a mini like sprint tower for your house. My buddy did it and its only a few dollars a month for taxes. Something to consider if poor signal around the house.
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I just picked up the EVO for me and the wife. The radios are fine. You really can't go wrong either way, with the SG3 or the EVO. I had an SG1 before this. I would say you have to try it out at your house. If sprint doesn't fit the bill then you just stuck with Verizon.
There are some other differences between the SG3 and the EVO, I found that the Evo had the things that I really wanted like camera button. I really did think that I would have the SG3 about 2 months ago, just saying really look at them closely if that is the way you go.
I, too, am an HTC fan. Love Sense and I don't care for Touchwiz. I'm sure either phone would suit your needs. I would think Sprint would trade out your phone if there was a defect issue. I got mine through Best Buy but have bought from Sprint before and had issues with my 3D after I had it for about 6months and they traded it out for me. Also, just wanted to mention, in case you didn't already know, that any phone call made to any mobile number with Sprint does not come off your minutes. I barely touch my minutes because most of my calls are made mobile to mobile. And the nights and weekends start at 7pm instead of 9pm. You may not need the unlimited calling plan if you don't do a lot of land line calling.
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Let us know what you decide. I don't know what sprints return policy is. Think you should just go to Best Buy & see what there return policy is.
As far as price, sprint really is great. The network can vary greatly from horrible to average on 3g depending on if your tower has gotten the network Vision upgrade. (there are places online that you can check if it's gotten the upgrade, but I don't know the link)
As someone mentioned, you can get the airwave femtocell to improve service in your home and sometimes you can get that for free.
I too am a fan of Sprints green policies. And I love the screen on the this (evo) compared to gs3. But they are both great phones.
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I love the sprint pricing/plan practice, but the network is terrible. It's usually been pretty good but lately it has been garbage, I'm hoping it's due to the upgrades and tower converting..
I wouldn't recommend Sprint at this time with someone who has health issues, but you can try them and see. I think they have a decent return policy
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in my area the NV upgrades are causing lots of dropped calls for me and my wife... the 3g speeds have always been abysmal with sprint... the unlimited data sounds great, but do you really need more than the 2gb caps that most other companys have in place? I don't think I've ever used more than 1gb of data in a month.
If I were you, I'd wait a bit before switching to sprint, make sure NV actually does what is promised, before you commit to them for 24 months
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I like Sprint's current business model of unlimited everything (& we plan to sign up for everything data plus from the employees referral to save a bit and get more minutes).
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Keep in mind that Sprint does free mobile to mobile. My family plan has only 700 minutes, and we usually end up with 500 minutes unused every month. That's free *any* mobile to any mobile. If you get a call from a verizon user, for example, you're still not using your minutes. Lots of minutes is nice, just make sure you don't end up paying more for a plan you don't really need
My concern most of all is with the radio quality and reception. I have some serious medical issues so being able to call for help is a frequent need. I took my current phone (HTC Rezound), my husband's Motorola DROID X, and the Evo LTE, and did side by side comparisons of the radios. My Rezound came in top at -80 give or take a few both directions, the DX, at -86 also give/take & the Evo LTE at -97 to -103. I then tried to load a webpage on my Rezound and the Evo. I picked yahoo because it has mixed media &was a first thing that popped into my head. My Rezound loaded the desktop version in less than 20 seconds... The Evo was still attempting to load the mobile version after several minutes.
So, do I believe the story that the mall kiosk has terrible Sprint reception? Was the demo Evo LTE one of the bad first batch? I know that there will be a step back in service speed but this was unbearable. I'm hoping that this isn't the normal for Sprint service... I mean it can't be, right? Right no one would use them.
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Sprint has very similar coverage to Verizon, since they rent towers from each other. The difference is that Verizon uses different frequency signal, which penetrates some hard objects (like walls) better than Sprint. So yes, your reception indoors is likely to be worse with any Sprint phone.
Sprint can give you a minitower for your house though (they call them Airave). If you tell them you don't have reception in your house, they will give it to you for free. It plugs into your network router and gives you about 100' radius of very good reception.
As far as Galaxy vs Evo, I can't really say, since I don't have a Galaxy. Evo's reception seems to me to be very good, compared to my old Moment, Transform, and Epic. Similar to slightly better than my wife's iPhone4.
I'll let you know. Mostly I want to know that Sprint will stand behind either phone if the radios aren't up to par without the restocking fees and a second activation fee... I can't afford $210 of activation, restocking and another reactivation fee for phones that are defective. I'm not talking about just changing my mind and wanting a different phone but needing to trust that one way or another I'll get two phones with no radio issues.
It's not as simple as just staying with VZW, my husband's phone was stolen during one of my medical emergencies... He's currently using an old phone but it's not working very well. So, we either pony up for a new phone (even if it's via Craigslist) or we get a new provider (who hopefully gives a care bc Vzw certainly didn't!), both get new phones and sell our current ones to cover most of the upfront cost of the new phones. We could wait until Network Vision is completed or moreso but will they still be able to offer unlimited data plan at that point. Since we feel that we want to switch, now feels like a good time to do so. Does that make sense?
No we're not out of contract with Verizon but have people lined up to do an AOL (assumption of liability or contract takeover) so we'd be out of it with no fees. However, we won't complete the AOL until we're sure that Sprint will work for us now.
Does anyone know if the everything data plus (we'd be looking at the 1600min family plan) has free activation? I'd have to order online and it would be via employee referral? Also, do you get any numbers you can pick that are unlimited to those numbers? Verizon had friends and family where you got to pick a handful of numbers that you call the most that don't count against our minutes. My only concern is my in laws as they have a VERY limited cell plan and use their land line almost exclusively. If we could add that one number that would help a ton. I'd read somewhere online that Sprint had something similar but now, of course, can't find it again.
I appreciate all of your help and advice so very much. I hope this explains more why we're considering the switch and why we need good phone reception... At least as good as is currently possible on their network.
BTW, when we informed Vzw about the phone theft we were tracking the phone on Google latitude and the refused to help or advise us as to what to do in any way. Super disappointed with their lack of help. If the customer service had been better, we might have gotten our phone back. I've heard good things about Sprint's customer service.
Any other thoughts or suggestions or advice... Please share! And many thanks to all of you who have shared!
I'll add my 2 cents. I have bought phones from Sprint local stores, employee referral that you mentioned (I have the 1600 employee referral plan). I have had similar service from all places. And yes, Sprint does have an add-on for call any number for free. It is called pick 3. After you sign up for service, call customer service, and tell them you came from Verizon which had that feature and you really miss it. Ask them about pick 3 and they should be able to give it to you for free. 3 numbers that don't use your anytime minutes. Can be different numbers for each line.
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[Q] switching phones on a corporate account

So I have an EVO LTE, and have a couple questions.
Okay, so my question is, if I'm on a corporate/business account, how do a switch phones if said business is closed? Like, say, I drop my phone on the weekend or something? Here's a bit of back story:
My university offers their own wireless program (sprint, vzw, att) and I picked sprint. I pay a discounted rate, and I get corporate PRL's, which makes me assume they have one massive corporate account and they sell phones from it to students. Seems semi-not-legal, but meh, my phone plan is like $60 a month so I can't complain at all.
I'm wondering how I can switch phones on my own. Before noob-flaming me, keep in mind I've had GSM phones my entire phone-life and just swapped out sims. This is my first CDMA phone. If my phone were to break, let's say, during spring break when my university is closed down, what could I do? Am I still able to call sprint and activate a backup phone? Or am I totally SOL? I'm not sure of Sprint's corporate limitations. Anybody have any idea of whether or not I could actually switch phones without going through my university? If so, how would I do that?
Thanks in advance for any help!
shiftylock said:
So I have an EVO LTE, and have a couple questions.
Okay, so my question is, if I'm on a corporate/business account, how do a switch phones if said business is closed? Like, say, I drop my phone on the weekend or something? Here's a bit of back story:
My university offers their own wireless program (sprint, vzw, att) and I picked sprint. I pay a discounted rate, and I get corporate PRL's, which makes me assume they have one massive corporate account and they sell phones from it to students. Seems semi-not-legal, but meh, my phone plan is like $60 a month so I can't complain at all.
I'm wondering how I can switch phones on my own. Before noob-flaming me, keep in mind I've had GSM phones my entire phone-life and just swapped out sims. This is my first CDMA phone. If my phone were to break, let's say, during spring break when my university is closed down, what could I do? Am I still able to call sprint and activate a backup phone? Or am I totally SOL? I'm not sure of Sprint's corporate limitations. Anybody have any idea of whether or not I could actually switch phones without going through my university? If so, how would I do that?
Thanks in advance for any help!
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Regardless of what kind of account it is, you need to do an esn swap on it. This has to be done at Sprint's end, via an online tool, chat, customer care, store, etc. I have dealt with business accounts before, they are similar to personal accounts. The chat on business accounts is way better they don't treat you like a newb & it's way quicker. I'm not sure on a corporate account, I would have to think if you have a corporate account you would not be responsible for the bill at which point you would have to contact whoever is in charge of the phone program. If you have a login/pass to sprint to pay your bill you can just do the esn swap yourself. I use the online tool and if it's down I use chat. I can't stand calling or going to the store so I use other methods. Another tip the online esn swap tool works best if you are swapping for similar phones. Example, Evo LTE to Samsung GSIII. These are both LTE phones so they are provisioned similarly. Now if you are going from say evo LTE to an older evo 3D or wimax phone I would just skip the tool and use chat. It will prompt you to change your plan because technically you are changing your plan even though your really not. I wish sprint would fix this but they haven't at least last time I checked. So as long as you pay your own bill you can do the ESN swap yourself via the methods described above. Keep in mind if it's 3 in the morning on Sat you are at the mercy of the online tool which a lot of times Sprint takes the site down at night for maintenance or you will run into issues if you are swapping LTE to Wimax or non-4g phone since they provision these phones differently.
Sim-X said:
Regardless of what kind of account it is, you need to do an esn swap on it. This has to be done at Sprint's end, via an online tool, chat, customer care, store, etc. I have dealt with business accounts before, they are similar to personal accounts. The chat on business accounts is way better they don't treat you like a newb & it's way quicker. I'm not sure on a corporate account, I would have to think if you have a corporate account you would not be responsible for the bill at which point you would have to contact whoever is in charge of the phone program. If you have a login/pass to sprint to pay your bill you can just do the esn swap yourself. I use the online tool and if it's down I use chat. I can't stand calling or going to the store so I use other methods. Another tip the online esn swap tool works best if you are swapping for similar phones. Example, Evo LTE to Samsung GSIII. These are both LTE phones so they are provisioned similarly. Now if you are going from say evo LTE to an older evo 3D or wimax phone I would just skip the tool and use chat. It will prompt you to change your plan because technically you are changing your plan even though your really not. I wish sprint would fix this but they haven't at least last time I checked. So as long as you pay your own bill you can do the ESN swap yourself via the methods described above. Keep in mind if it's 3 in the morning on Sat you are at the mercy of the online tool which a lot of times Sprint takes the site down at night for maintenance or you will run into issues if you are swapping LTE to Wimax or non-4g phone since they provision these phones differently.
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Thank you for the information! I heard that there was an online tool thing, I pay my own bill and get one monthly, so I'm assuming I'm considered "responsible" for my own account. I may test this out by switching to my roommate's S3 via online, and if that doesn't work, via chat. I just don't want to be SOL this spring break, especially since I'll be traveling haha

[Q] Data call failure error code 89 on Verizon Prepaid

My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
Verizon Wireless send new A-Key and AAA Password to combat flashing
So you know im in a wireless family.
I work at T-Mobile Corporate in Redmond, And my brother in New Jersey at verizon.
I personally use an optimus G SPRINT on Verizon Prepaid, Not that I dont like the T-Mobile speed, But lets be honest coverage sucks.
So the 1.5 to 2.5 MBPS nationwide I get on verizon is better. OK Back on point.
So my brother tells me Verizon is actively trying to combat the MIFI flashed to verizon prepaid, On mulitple fronts.
They have contacted ebay, and ebay sellers have been suspended.
And here is the one that sucks for all of us that use verizon prepaid.... They renew and send a new AAA Key every 4 to 7 days.....
And may also resend or renew the A-Key.
What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
Sadly my brother said they are not doing this targeting phone users, Verizon is not stupid they know people flash phones.
But they are targeting JETPACK and MIFI users.
He says in recent weeks they have seen Prepaid accounts that are using over 80GB of data a month on these supposed GUSTO's
So naturally verizon is now cracking down, This is similar to what Sprint and Boost Mobile did with ERROR 16.
Just giving you a heads up, And to flashers who flash the MiFi devices, Verizon is actively searching Craigslist and eBay, One eBay seller is now being sued by verizon and they found him on Craigslist in Salem, Oregon.
Just be careful, I use about 15GB a month on my Optimus and dont have any issues, Beyond having to reflash the info using the guide above once a week or so.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
Hope this helps.
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass for sure...I have, let's say, X Amount of flashed phones around the country...and have been racking my brain trying to make sense out of it...and there's definitely theories all over the place but as this gentleman has described, the phones losing 3g is just collateral damage. I will say that less than 20% of my phones seem to be affected...I have found certain areas to be more troublesome than others, but if flashed correctly the data use doesn't even show up on Verizons side...but that's a different discussion all together. I've seen phones that had to have the data reprogrammed only once about 2 months ago & have not been bothered since, some that have only lasted a few hours each time it was done...it's completely up to Verizon at this point - I think they're rolling the keys based off tower output more than on a schedule though...if a particular tower seems to be sucking up a lot of data (because they can see it from an infastructure level) then they roll the keys on everything connected to that tower. I'm sure they're doing it on some sort of schedule as well, but the truth is, out of all of the devices that I have access to and have been logging behavior on, there is no real pattern at this point.
I honestly don't think they'll keep it up though after they find the heavy duty data abusers. Fiscally it will hurt them badly. As an example, in the past month I've moved about 30 customers from VZPP to an alternate carrier...I'm certain it's a safe assumption that I'm probably one of 10,000 (at least) in the US that do this type of thing on the same scale. If each of us move 30 accounts per month, that's 1.5 million per month in lost revenue per month that they're going to sustain just based off my estimate. That's not counting the 5 here, 5 there, couple over there, etc that are DIYers, etc. I'm guessing my estimate is probably very low...but for the sake of argument it's 1.5 Million in revenue a month that they don't have to advertise for, they don't have to provide tech support for, no customer service, no out of pocket cost except maintenance that they already do anyway. The network is still super fast & reliable, so they're nowhere near capacity obviously, so the beancounters at some point are going to have to evaluate which is the lesser of the two evils and I think the key rolling is going to be the greater. If my estimate is correct, that's 18 million per year in recurring revenue that they get on a total "no sweat" deal - I don't care how big a company is, you can't afford that loss.
It's also a safe assumption that they don't care much about the phones...I know, with my own infastructure knowledge, that given a month with their internal network and I could easily identify 80% or more of the flashed phones operating on it and remove them...considering they have a huge team of IT people and endless resources if they wanted them gone, they would be gone.
I honestly believe that this will eventually blow over as long as the flagrant abusers aren't shoving it in their faces and neener neener neenering them to death with the MiFi's which I've even seen for sale "No Bill" style on Amazon...
and people wonder why it's getting harder & harder to get answers, guides, etc from people that frontline this type of thing....hell I've seen laptops for sale on eBay with downloaded software & guides from this very site as well as others on how to flash "Item X" in a complete do it yourself bundle...then people that selfishly made a couple hundred bucks doing it cry because their stuff don't work anymore.
I figured out a couple of alternate ways to combat it very quickly, and some other solutions to keep people in the unlimited plans cheap but am afraid if I share it openly then it's just going to go viral and cause the same problems again...it wouldn't upset me at all if there were a more advanced "pay section" of this site for the serious people to share with each other & keep this type of thing under control. Just a thought.
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Yeah, it's a pain in the ass for sure...I have, let's say, X Amount of flashed phones around the country...and have been racking my brain trying to make sense out of it...and there's definitely theories all over the place but as this gentleman has described, the phones losing 3g is just collateral damage. I will say that less than 20% of my phones seem to be affected...I have found certain areas to be more troublesome than others, but if flashed correctly the data use doesn't even show up on Verizons side...but that's a different discussion all together. I've seen phones that had to have the data reprogrammed only once about 2 months ago & have not been bothered since, some that have only lasted a few hours each time it was done...it's completely up to Verizon at this point - I think they're rolling the keys based off tower output more than on a schedule though...if a particular tower seems to be sucking up a lot of data (because they can see it from an infastructure level) then they roll the keys on everything connected to that tower. I'm sure they're doing it on some sort of schedule as well, but the truth is, out of all of the devices that I have access to and have been logging behavior on, there is no real pattern at this point.
I honestly don't think they'll keep it up though after they find the heavy duty data abusers. Fiscally it will hurt them badly. As an example, in the past month I've moved about 30 customers from VZPP to an alternate carrier...I'm certain it's a safe assumption that I'm probably one of 10,000 (at least) in the US that do this type of thing on the same scale. If each of us move 30 accounts per month, that's 1.5 million per month in lost revenue per month that they're going to sustain just based off my estimate. That's not counting the 5 here, 5 there, couple over there, etc that are DIYers, etc. I'm guessing my estimate is probably very low...but for the sake of argument it's 1.5 Million in revenue a month that they don't have to advertise for, they don't have to provide tech support for, no customer service, no out of pocket cost except maintenance that they already do anyway. The network is still super fast & reliable, so they're nowhere near capacity obviously, so the beancounters at some point are going to have to evaluate which is the lesser of the two evils and I think the key rolling is going to be the greater. If my estimate is correct, that's 18 million per year in recurring revenue that they get on a total "no sweat" deal - I don't care how big a company is, you can't afford that loss.
It's also a safe assumption that they don't care much about the phones...I know, with my own infastructure knowledge, that given a month with their internal network and I could easily identify 80% or more of the flashed phones operating on it and remove them...considering they have a huge team of IT people and endless resources if they wanted them gone, they would be gone.
I honestly believe that this will eventually blow over as long as the flagrant abusers aren't shoving it in their faces and neener neener neenering them to death with the MiFi's which I've even seen for sale "No Bill" style on Amazon...
and people wonder why it's getting harder & harder to get answers, guides, etc from people that frontline this type of thing....hell I've seen laptops for sale on eBay with downloaded software & guides from this very site as well as others on how to flash "Item X" in a complete do it yourself bundle...then people that selfishly made a couple hundred bucks doing it cry because their stuff don't work anymore.
I figured out a couple of alternate ways to combat it very quickly, and some other solutions to keep people in the unlimited plans cheap but am afraid if I share it openly then it's just going to go viral and cause the same problems again...it wouldn't upset me at all if there were a more advanced "pay section" of this site for the serious people to share with each other & keep this type of thing under control. Just a thought.
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And your whole point is? This poor individual is trying to find some help and apparently he is not getting anything. Instead you should write a guide on how to extract more data from the Gusto in order to receive the new keys properly. It has happened to me before but speed increased after unlocking the phone. I was on the 35/plan before and it gave me the same error, it lasts for about 2 days and then error 89 shows up, sometimes a day, that was before. I'm unsure why they keep doing this and why isn't the flashed phone getting the new key automatically like the Gusto 2. There must be a way to make this work.
I'm still trying to figure out why Verizon is cracking down on flashed phones when that's clearly more customers.
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Sprint code
I gota the error 16 code when I obtained s-off. Everything worked but text an call it took me to sprint. I just told the lady I did a hard reset to clear all my data. She said ok you r all set now have a good day. RT away text starting coming thru. I did read the due security with radio firmware. Someone else said it's just a way to log users. Idk myself I due know she ask no questions She already knew why I was calling.
so..mmm, where is the easy fix???
TechSoft said:
What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
hope this helps.
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i have a vzw 3g phone wich i used to pull the data settings and i have the gusto in its package.
so what can I do... how does the easy fix works??
error 8998 unknown fix!
I USED A VERIZON 3G PHONE (a galaxy 1) I changed the esn/meid using dfs .
It went to the activation process.. no data
did factory reset.
Once rebooted I got 3g.
put it on the computer again and using DFS i looked and there was like 6 new PASSWORDS!!!
PAP, PPP, HDR AN, HDR AN LONG , HDR AN PPP AND The ones where the profile is edited.
i simply reflashed my d710 with the new info and got go sms for the mms.
Working good as usual
gigaferz said:
I USED A VERIZON 3G PHONE (a galaxy 1) I changed the esn/meid using dfs .
It went to the activation process.. no data
did factory reset.
Once rebooted I got 3g.
put it on the computer again and using DFS i looked and there was like 6 new PASSWORDS!!!
PAP, PPP, HDR AN, HDR AN LONG , HDR AN PPP AND The ones where the profile is edited.
i simply reflashed my d710 with the new info and got go sms for the mms.
Working good as usual
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Verizon changed again the passwords.... thanks to my fascinate i got everything again... but the flash doesnt work anymore with my d710 sprint phone... looks like verizon added more security..
im stuck using my old i500...
susy1990 said:
My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
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I'm on the same boot, i keep getting error 89 and my phone is on roaming, unfortunately i don't have the donor
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susy1990 said:
My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
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TechSoft said:
So you know im in a wireless family.
I work at T-Mobile Corporate in Redmond, And my brother in New Jersey at verizon.
I personally use an optimus G SPRINT on Verizon Prepaid, Not that I dont like the T-Mobile speed, But lets be honest coverage sucks.
So the 1.5 to 2.5 MBPS nationwide I get on verizon is better. OK Back on point.
So my brother tells me Verizon is actively trying to combat the MIFI flashed to verizon prepaid, On mulitple fronts.
They have contacted ebay, and ebay sellers have been suspended.
And here is the one that sucks for all of us that use verizon prepaid.... They renew and send a new AAA Key every 4 to 7 days.....
And may also resend or renew the A-Key.
What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
Sadly my brother said they are not doing this targeting phone users, Verizon is not stupid they know people flash phones.
But they are targeting JETPACK and MIFI users.
He says in recent weeks they have seen Prepaid accounts that are using over 80GB of data a month on these supposed GUSTO's
So naturally verizon is now cracking down, This is similar to what Sprint and Boost Mobile did with ERROR 16.
Just giving you a heads up, And to flashers who flash the MiFi devices, Verizon is actively searching Craigslist and eBay, One eBay seller is now being sued by verizon and they found him on Craigslist in Salem, Oregon.
Just be careful, I use about 15GB a month on my Optimus and dont have any issues, Beyond having to reflash the info using the guide above once a week or so.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
Hope this helps.
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that's not what the OP asked

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