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i have installed a Froyo rom on my vibrant and i was wondering how i go back to stock?
It never ceases to amaze me that people don't have a crystal clear understanding of what they are doing before they go flashing custom ROMS. Why would you even think about putting on a specific ROM unless you knew how to revert back if it dorked up?
ikanep said:
i have installed a Froyo rom on my vibrant and i was wondering how i go back to stock?
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Vibrant Android Developement Forum -> Vibrant Directory (Bible) Thread... lots of paths to stock.
WOW!! I'm not going to roast you but come on man. Did you read the OP of the froyo thread? Then you wait till after you flash to worry about how to get back???
I'm going to assume by your post that you didn't do a nandroid so it looks like your only option is to ODIN back to stock. Just search it.
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It is so horrible how anybody asks for help in the android community and no one bothers to give a helpful response just badger new user. How is any noob supposed to learn when all you can find by searching is threads the people get ROASTED in. Stop being jerks.
ikanep said:
i have installed a Froyo rom on my vibrant and i was wondering how i go back to stock?
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Follow steps 2-4 in the link below
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php...pps-*-everything&p=11409&viewfull=1#post11409
keith.randy said:
It is so horrible how anybody asks for help in the android community and no one bothers to give a helpful response just badger new user. How is any noob supposed to learn when all you can find by searching is threads the people get ROASTED in. Stop being jerks.
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Because his is an unneeded question. If he would do a search or read the sickies he would not need to ask this question. Otherwise there wouldn't be stickies.
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keith.randy said:
It is so horrible how anybody asks for help in the android community and no one bothers to give a helpful response just badger new user. How is any noob supposed to learn when all you can find by searching is threads the people get ROASTED in. Stop being jerks.
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Also your response gave no helpful information to the op.
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keith.randy said:
It is so horrible how anybody asks for help in the android community and no one bothers to give a helpful response just badger new user. How is any noob supposed to learn when all you can find by searching is threads the people get ROASTED in. Stop being jerks.
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We help those who first help themselves. 30 seconds in the development forum would get him the answers he needs. Posting a request for help without first attempting to find an answer on your own is extremely lazy. They're just asking the regulars to do all the heavy lifting for them. "Yeah, I flashed a ROM after doing almost no research and I don't like it. It looks like there's 27 different posts with step by step instructions on how to reverse it, but it's so much easier to just start a 28th post and ask for help. Also, could one of y'all take a plane flight to my hovel in Bangkok where I live and work Odin for me? I'll be in the tub eating takeout food. When you're done, it'd be great if you could come on up the stairs and feed me, and perhaps do something with these curtains?"
The reason you have trouble finding useful information is because your search results get clogged up with people starting threads asking questions answered in other threads. Sometimes in threads on the same page as the one their making. Sometimes with titles that are nearly identical to theirs. These people get flamed because they're part of the problem, not the solution, and after the 9,000th time you see a new thread titled "Kies broke my phone" or "How do I get into recovery?" or "What bootloader do I need for CM7?", you start to get a little batty.
Hello all,
i am totally new in the world of roots and roms.
i managed to root and enable sideloading on my atrix! yay!
1) but what can i do now?
i am thinking about installing GreyBlur
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039763)
2) can someone (who is lil patient) explain me what i would get? will my phone be faster? can i damage it since iam still new in this area?
3) anyone knows a good article/post/thread/anything where i can start getting into this root/roms area? so i can learn about it?
thanks for all your help, you are awesome.
Greetz
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I bought an att Atrtix and got version 4.1.83 running
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1) but what can i do now?
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I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
No offense, but you shouldn't be rooting/flashing "roms" if you don't know what your doing.
It's very easy to end up with an unusable device.
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I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
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Thank you for nothing I guess. To answer your question! Irooted This phone because I want side loading enabled.
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No offense, but you shouldn't be rooting/flashing "roms" if you don't know what your doing.
It's very easy to end up with an unusable device.
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Thx. I know that. I managed to get everything working i wanted ;-) and everyone has to start at one ponit, right. That's why I would not do it if I don't want to. I want to learn more about it so can you tell me a good thread or webside to start with?
Can anyone tell means about that rom pls.
I find your responses a bit harsh guys.. Are there laws / regulations on who can / should root, profile boxes that have to be ticked before one can decide to have a go at unleashing the full power of their phone?
Nobody was born with the knowledge, we all started from scratch at some stage. There are enough warnings that explain how to apply the root methods that are offered in the threads.
Here you go OP:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oted-user-should-know-about-part-2-apps-9-16/
Have fun, try not to brick your phone!!
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I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
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Ouch.......poor guy is new and gets slammed instantly for wondering what all he can do with his phone. I think we were all in the same boat not too long ago.
Yea, he may be a noob and not know the politics of posting before reading, but I bet each one of us did at one time too. What we should be doing is just politely pointing him in the right direction on how to learn more about all things root.
Such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972423 being a good place to start.
Understand though, if you screw up your phone, there is no one to blame but yourself. Read how to recover from a soft brick and hard brick before jumping in. Read all posts VERY carefully and all the way through. That's how I learned, and many others before me. And first and foremost, before asking questions about anything, do a quick search of the treads to see if it has already been asked and answered before. If you don't find your question, feel free to ask and ignore those that troll the treads.
Good luck my man.
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I find your responses a bit harsh guys.. Are there laws / regulations on who can / should root, profile boxes that have to be ticked before one can decide to have a go at unleashing the full power of their phone?
Nobody was born with the knowledge, we all started from scratch at some stage. There are enough warnings that explain how to apply the root methods that are offered in the threads.
Here you go OP:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oted-user-should-know-about-part-2-apps-9-16/
Have fun, try not to brick your phone!!
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Funny......had to have been writing at the same time......at least we were on the same page.
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Funny......had to have been writing at the same time......at least we were on the same page.
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Indeed!
Smintz said:
Thx. I know that. I managed to get everything working i wanted ;-) and everyone has to start at one ponit, right. That's why I would not do it if I don't want to. I want to learn more about it so can you tell me a good thread or webside to start with?
Can anyone tell means about that rom pls.
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I am running Gingerblur which is very similar. I think it is a great ROM and one of the few so far for the Atrix. If you like some of the Blur stuff such as the gallery and social networking items, you have to understand that you will be losing them with the new ROM and going with the stock Android gallery. However, if you do a backup of your current ROM before flashing, you can always revert back if you don't like it.
Big thing, screen shots help for me. And the ROM developers do a great job at giving the details of their ROMs in their posts or websites.
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Ouch.......poor guy is new and gets slammed instantly for wondering what all he can do with his phone. I think we were all in the same boat not too long ago.
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I agree, we all have to learn, but the vast majority of us started by reading through threads which have all the info about how to flash sbf's, root, sideload, flash themes, what is and is not possible, etc. We then tried things by following the instructions.
I'm not, and was not, trying to be a ****. I am however very blunt! Everything the OP needs is already there if he/she looks. The forums are full of "repeat" threads because people are basically too lazy to read and research for themselves before asking what has already been asked numerous times.
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thanks for all your help. its time to start reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099846
Where in settings is option to set how long capacitive lights stay on?
you have to more specific..There is alot of jelly bean roms floating around..And some are different..Perhaps rephrasing your question, you'll get a quicker response?
Well I thought my question was pretty straight forward, I ask here so as to not cloud the rom thread (they ***** hard about that)
Just like in a normal stock gb/ics rom, in display you have an option to set how long to keep the capacitive buttons lit: 6 seconds, as long as screen on, never, etc
Question is simply where is this option in jelly bean?
How crazy is that people get upset when people post frivolous questions in the "DEVELOPMENT" section? Who would have known? What fascist Nazis!
OP, you still didn't answer the question wish777 asked you. Instead you choose to be arrogant. So in turn I will not answer your question even though I know the answer.
how do you know which jelly bean rom he has? or is that setting in generically the same place?
saywhat10 : please specify which from you have... and someone familiar with that particular rom will answer. thanks
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How crazy is that people get upset when people post frivolous questions in the "DEVELOPMENT" section? Who would have known? What fascist Nazis!
OP, you still didn't answer the question wish777 asked you. Instead you choose to be arrogant. So in turn I will not answer your question even though I know the answer.
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If its a question that somebody doesnt know, and wants answered, how is that frivolous? The problem in the developer section is that they assume everybody is some techy and is supposed to know everything.
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How was I arrogant, i simply rephrased it like he requested. A 2 year old could understand my question I asked. Plus he didnt actually ASK me a question or ASK which rom I was on if you can read. You simply implied he did, but he didnt directly. He simply asked me to rephrase which is incredibly VAGUE. So i chose what to rephrase, was totally in the scope of his request
But i can be arrogant: Only kids play games like responding saying you know the answer but wont give it. Can beleive you took a simply question i asked and just ran with it for no reason
But Jimbomb, i'm on slimbean, but was on the impression that its a stock option,generically in the same place, independant of which jelly bean version. All the ICS roms they used they were all in the same place
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I'm currently using slim rom as well..I don't even see that option within this rom...?..thats strange...
No one is trying to play games bud....its just easier to know what jelly bean rom your on...There is no default jelly bean rom.....if you want to be specific your on jelly bean/cm10 to be honest...all the roms are using jelly bean as a base,with or without cm10...I'm not trying to be mean,Am only trying to help you?..if I knew more info, It would be allitle easier..but I can't or anybody else,because we don't know what rom you were on...
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I'm currently using slim rom as well..I don't even see that option within this rom...?..thats strange...
No one is trying to play games bud....its just easier to know what jelly bean rom your on...There is no default jelly bean rom.....if you want to be specific your on jelly bean/cm10 to be honest...all the roms are using jelly bean as a base,with or without cm10...I'm not trying to be mean,Am only trying to help you?..if I knew more info, It would be allitle easier..but I can't or anybody else,because we don't know what rom you were on...
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I didnt say you were playing game, i said the other guy was (simply replying to say he knows the answer but wont give it)
And again, the light settings is in the same place for all the GB and ICS roms,so going with that i assumed the actual rom name was irrelevant,since its a basic feature of all roms.
Now I'm definitely not giving you the answer.
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Now I'm definitely not giving you the answer.
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you already told me that, nothing new here
this post isnt for kid games
if you dont have an answer, why reply?
LOL wow everyone is so uptight...
Check here
Settings - Advanced - Sensors(tab up top) - Enable keys backlight checkmark
lmike6453 said:
LOL wow everyone is so uptight...
Check here
Settings - Advanced - Sensors(tab up top) - Enable keys backlight checkmark
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thanks, but on this jelly bean, theres no "advanced" after going to settings
First, its pretty standard procedure when asking a question to provide as much detail as possible such as what ROM you're on and what mods you're using, not just JB. That you did not.
Second, the development section does not require you to be a techie, it simply requires you to be observant and able to learn by reading, experimenting, and drawing your own conclusions.
Third, you basically answered your own question, which goes back to drawing your own conclusions from reading and experimenting. You stated that its available on stock ROMs. The duration setting is available only on TW based ROMs AFAIK, which you seemed to have observed. Since CM9/10 aren't TW based, they don't have the duration settings. The option to turn on or off is available on CM9 ROMs and CM10 ROMs that include the advanced menu under settings. If your ROM doesn't have the advanced menu, then the developer hasn't included it.
Remember, developers build these ROMs for themselves first, then generously share them with us. The answer to every 'why isn't this included?' question is that the developer simply hasn't included it. Just keep in mind that the developer built it for themselves on their own free time, and that you aren't entitled to anything, and you can politely suggest to the developer that a feature be included. Expecting and demanding won't get you anywhere. You were expecting this feature. If you're not happy use something else.
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First, its pretty standard procedure when asking a question to provide as much detail as possible such as what ROM you're on and what mods you're using, not just JB. That you did not.
Second, the development section does not require you to be a techie, it simply requires you to be observant and able to learn by reading, experimenting, and drawing your own conclusions.
Third, you basically answered your own question, which goes back to drawing your own conclusions from reading and experimenting. You stated that its available on stock ROMs. The duration setting is available only on TW based ROMs AFAIK, which you seemed to have observed. Since CM9/10 aren't TW based, they don't have the duration settings. The option to turn on or off is available on CM9 ROMs and CM10 ROMs that include the advanced menu under settings. If your ROM doesn't have the advanced menu, then the developer hasn't included it.
Remember, developers build these ROMs for themselves first, then generously share them with us. The answer to every 'why isn't this included?' question is that the developer simply hasn't included it. Just keep in mind that the developer built it for themselves on their own free time, and that you aren't entitled to anything, and you can politely suggest to the developer that a feature be included. Expecting and demanding won't get you anywhere. You were expecting this feature. If you're not happy use something else.
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Who the hell demanded anything? I simply asked a simple question in the correct Q & A forum
If you read I said I thought the answer was rom independent, do you know what that means? Then you are harping on me not saying which rom I was on but looks like it didn't even matter which one im on because the option doesn't exist on any dag on note jelly bean rom!
And if I knew the answer why the hell would I even ask the question in the first place? Use common sense please
And then you say we don't have to be a techie, but make a techie answer! Very funny math my man!
Only a techie knows how each stock cm9 cm10 aosp aokp works, I don't! So i asked a freakin question here!
Stop being so pressed to come on to flame people just because they are not a know it all like you!Either you wanted to give me an answer to my question or not, all that other stuff is totally unnecessary!!! This is what blows this whole community
I was trying to help you out man. This whole blowing up at people doesn't help anything, which I've consistently seen you do in the past. I was trying to tell you not that you knew the answer, but that you had already observed everything you needed to draw a reasonable conclusion that CM9/10 ROMs don't have the ability to set duration. My answer wasn't very techie, and I don't consider myself very techie, I just was trying to give you advice on how to better solve your own problems. You don't need to be a techie to try out the ROMs available and see what each one does/doesn't include.
Sorry about the last couple sentences, I realize they were harsher than they needed to be. But the rest really wasn't aimed at you, it was general advice about drawing your own conclusions and whatnot, which everybody can use.
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I was trying to help you out man. This whole blowing up at people doesn't help anything, which I've consistently seen you do in the past. I was trying to tell you not that you knew the answer, but that you had already observed everything you needed to draw a reasonable conclusion that CM9/10 ROMs don't have the ability to set duration. My answer wasn't very techie, and I don't consider myself very techie, I just was trying to give you advice on how to better solve your own problems. You don't need to be a techie to try out the ROMs available and see what each one does/doesn't include.
Sorry about the last couple sentences, I realize they were harsher than they needed to be. But the rest really wasn't aimed at you, it was general advice about drawing your own conclusions and whatnot, which everybody can use.
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This is a Q & A forum! We are allowed to post here instead of concluding. I did that and didn't appreciate getting attacked
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This is a Q & A forum! We are allowed to post here instead of concluding. I did that and didn't appreciate getting attacked
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I'm inclined to side with the OP on this one. I've noticed that a lot of active members here can be dickish towards new members with valid, albeit naive questions.
The whole community reeks of elitism, but I can look past that myself cause it's such a useful site. I'm not trying to fuel the flames, just pointing out what I have observed. None of the antagonism has been aimed at me, as I like to do a good job of supplying as much detail as possible when I post.... but still.
Ok guys. wuuussssaaaa. I can see both sides of the argument. Some older users can be a bit touch (which welch was not.) He gave you the answer to your question and explained why you did not find it.
As for being a techy know it all. There is no such thing. With the way the mobile OS is evolving, you are always learning something new. Now for your question, A search would have given you the answers you were looking for. As per the rules you agreed to when you joined. You did read them right jk lol.
You have to remember this is not just a Development forum but one of the biggest in the world. You will find techies, techie jargoon, and other things you dont understand. Take the time to learn, it will save you tons of frustration.
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Ok guys. wuuussssaaaa. I can see both sides of the argument. Some older users can be a bit touch (which welch was not.) He gave you the answer to your question and explained why you did not find it.
As for being a techy know it all. There is no such thing. With the way the mobile OS is evolving, you are always learning something new. Now for your question, A search would have given you the answers you were looking for. As per the rules you agreed to when you joined. You did read them right jk lol.
You have to remember this is not just a Development forum but one of the biggest in the world. You will find techies, techie jargoon, and other things you dont understand. Take the time to learn, it will save you tons of frustration.
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Ok so the answer is to use the search button to find my answers? Really? So why the hell does this forum exist? Technically all answers can be found by searching right? So Answer me that
BUT I did search whether you believe me or not, if I had found my answer common sense should tell you I wouldn't have made this post!
So again, if we can find answers by searching, why should anyone post a question in this forum?
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Ok so the answer is to use the search button to find my answers? Really? So why the hell does this forum exist? Technically all answers can be found by searching right? Answer me that
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Well considering that there are over 4 million members, then yes. The question. Has a good chance of already being asked at some point or another. Do you really think your the first to notice the missing option?
So you search first. And then on the off chance you can't find anything even remotely related to your question, then you open a new thread
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Hello there. Basically, I was on the newest (I think) Alliance Rom with Dorimanx kernel for s2. however, it began to get quite buggy, and I tried to flash a new kernel onto it. Siyah. then I tried to flash Cyanogenmod onto it. Restarted, phone won't load past the siyah logo. But I get the siyah recovery menu thing still. But when I try to install the cyanogenmod zip, it fails. I have no other roms on my sd card, or kernels, for that matter.
Please can somebody advise me what to do. I need my phone for work in 5 hours! I was thinking a fix possibly with Odin? Although, I'm guessing if I wiped the phone, kies will no longer be on there. Not sure what it means for it.
thanks.
It's Jellybean by the way
1) Use a more descriptive title than 'HELP !'. Many people will ignore your thread/not read it for that alone (which means you might miss out on help).
2) If you've still got CWRecovery, you still should be able to flash something without resorting to Odin. I would suggest perhaps you're not following the instructions on the first page of the CM thread to the letter. Try it again.
If you really can't flash anything in recovery & still have bootloop (I.E recovery seems broken), get a stock rom from Samfirmware, flash it with Odin = clean slate & you can then re-root your phone & have another go at flashing whatever rom/kernel you want to use.
Thanks, and thanks for telling me about the title, I guess, my apologies, but urgency is urgency.
I can't get any zip files onto my phone or the SD card. so flashing from the phone is pretty much a no.
I can try Odin, however, I barely know what it is. Is anybody willing to just tell me what to click?
No spoon feeding allowed mate. No one will hold your hand and tell you what button to click. I may as well fly over there and do it myself.
If you want to know about Odin flashing click the link in my signature and look at the section on how to flash.
But, I still don't think you need to use Odin. In CWM recovery, Mount usb storage, connect to pc, transfer rom.zip onto phone sd from pc, unmount usb & then flash rom. Done.
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Okay.. Seems a bit odd, being a help section, in a forum. I just figured since I'm dealing with something that could potentially break/brick my phone, I would rather do it right as opposed to wrong, considering I have never done it myself before.
Thanks though, I didn't actually know I could mount it without actually booting the phone. I'll try that.
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Thanks, and thanks for telling me about the title, I guess, my apologies, but urgency is urgency.
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Yet you still haven't changed it. Urgency may well be urgency, but you either want to make that small change & potentially get the help you need if you get stuck further, or you don't. No skin off any of our noses either way *shrugs*.
P.S - Forum rules are forum rules.
Edit - And the reason Hopper said what he said - this may well be a Q&A forum, but that doesn't mean we regurgitate stuff that's been asked/answered thousands of times over the past two years for any n00b who thinks they deserve same.
I'm not even being harsh with what I say. I didn't write out the steps, but I did give you a direct link to a place which lists the steps. That's a legitimate A to your Q.
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Yet you still haven't changed it. Urgency may well be urgency, but you either want to make that small change & potentially get the help you need if you get stuck further, or you don't. No skin off any of our noses either way *shrugs*.
P.S - Forum rules are forum rules.
Edit - And the reason Hopper said what he said - this may well be a Q&A forum, but that doesn't mean we regurgitate stuff that's been asked/answered thousands of times over the past two years for any n00b who thinks they deserve same.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418262
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2416096
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2413627
Just a few more that just say "help". I can see that it is not posing a ****ing problem. Not to mention (may be my fault) but I don't see any way to change the title.
As far as I'm concerned mate, I wanted help with something, went to the HELP section of a FORUM, and got help, so you can go **** yourself if you have a problem with that. I don't go to forums to just chat about my day. If what I did ask was too much for you, then just let someone help who is more helpful than you. I didn't ask anybody to troll the net for files, or anything of the sort, I asked for legitimate help with something I didn't know how to do.
Either way, I've managed to fix the problem, so no more needs to be done.
Thank you to those who gave me advice.
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Not to mention (may be my fault) but I don't see any way to change the title.
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jotty1993 said:
As far as I'm concerned mate, I wanted help with something, went to the HELP section of a FORUM, and got help, so you can go **** yourself if you have a problem with that. I don't go to forums to just chat about my day. If what I did ask was too much for you, then just let someone who is more helpful than you.
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Please show respect to senior members. They have been here longer than you, obviously dealt with problems much similar to your and want you to search for yourself, that is why the search buttons are there. Did you watch 'I am a noob in XDA Developers' video?
And you obviosuly have no idea why they say this, but it's because you will learn for yourself. In near future you will search and find answers yourself if you start now (which they are trying to make you do) other than just relying on other people to do your work for you. That's not the way XDA developers work.
So rather then being disrespectful and throwing insults at them, you should thank them
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I didn't ask anybody to troll the net for files, or anything of the sort, I asked for legitimate help with something I didn't know how to do.
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They gave you good guidance mate :-/
PS. Kies is crap - get rid of it.
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Please show respect to senior members. They have been here longer than you, obviously dealt with problems much similar to your and want you to search for yourself, that is why the search buttons are there. Did you watch 'I am a noob in XDA Developers' video?
And you obviosuly have no idea why they say this, but it's because you will learn for yourself. In near future you will search and find answers yourself if you start now (which they are trying to make you do) other than just relying on other people to do your work for you. That's not the way XDA developers work.
So rather then being disrespectful and throwing insults at them, you should thank them
They gave you good guidance mate :-/
PS. Kies is crap - get rid of it.
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Yes - I appreciate the fact that I was helped the amount I was, but I could say the same. Is that the best way to treat new members? I have already apologized twice for my mistakes, at least, and I STILL have people telling me I'm doing things wrong. Also, it's not like I haven't thanked them. I think I thanked them at the end of nearly every post. Anything else to pick at?
I'm not trying to disrespect - just trying to prove my point. If you didn't want to help me, don't, just don't ***** about the fact that I wanted help. :/
My problem is fixed, that's all that matters.
thanks again.
jotty1993 said:
Yes - I appreciate the fact that I was helped the amount I was, but I could say the same. Is that the best way to treat new members? I have already apologized twice for my mistakes, at least, and I STILL have people telling me I'm doing things wrong. Also, it's not like I haven't thanked them. I think I thanked them at the end of nearly every post. Anything else to pick at?
I'm not trying to disrespect - just trying to prove my point. If you didn't want to help me, don't, just don't ***** about the fact that I wanted help. :/
My problem is fixed, that's all that matters.
thanks again.
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Yes it's the right way to treat new members.
You are doing things wrong, respecting other members is a rule of XDA and you're not doing it - so you're doing it wrong.
Good you thanked. But was i necessary to disrespect. Yes you were disrespecting.
Prove your point? That it's okay to spoonfeed newbies and making them think that they wont have to do anything, just ask and wait?! No that's not right, as already stated.
You wanted to help how exactly? To tell us that we should do it 'the way you like it'? No that's wrong, accept it!
Dont come here and try to flame, there's a rule against that. Take you crap elsewhere, cause with that attitude you probably wont get much help around here or anywhere else for that matter.
This is my last post and visit here, so dont even bother commenting if there anything about me.
This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. I read many posts with members stating that the thread is just too long to read. Then using that as an excuse for not reading at all. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
RayMcGrath said:
This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
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Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
Bobbaloo said:
Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
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Great to have you. You're a big help to many folk.
5.1 said:
Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
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You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
RayMcGrath said:
You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
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Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
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Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
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From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
Bobbaloo said:
From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
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Yeah I know how you feel! At least for me having no real technical knowledge, I'm always glad to find the solutions by myself. Since it's around and just needs a search it's even faster than waiting for an answer. Also, since I only need to search when my phone is broken, I simply can't wait for someone to answer. Imagine no one replied during two days...
Bobbaloo said:
Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
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This is the first place I found when I started to flash my HTC vision back in 2008. I started reading guides and development and was like: WTF these guys are cracking bootloader, carrier unlocking, etc... And all can be found so easily... :good: