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To get S-Off, has anyone tried rolling back to the old RUU (Prerelease) and using HTC Dev? It probably won't work, but it might be worth a shot...
htc dev wont work,they arent going to give an unlock key,it doesnt matter what firmware we are running.
from what i can gather,zergRush works,we need to be able to disable emmc write protect so that a new hboot can be written. im assuming the usual exploits for this are not working,or it would be out by now.
it may be possible that an older ruu may be more "exploitable" i dont reeally know.
i hope some breakthrus come... i hate to think htc devices are going to become "unlockable" like moto i like the rezound but have got to hold out till it has at least a software s-off.
id also be happy with clip support,since i have one of them
edit: htc dev unlock is a joke anyway. i do appreciate the efforts on their part to satisfy the root community,but it is not an s-off. what you get,is an unlocked s-on hboot that lets you change recovery,boot,and system. no radio or hboot changes,and no backwards RUUs without rewriting the misc image.
its unfortunately far from the freedom from a true unsecured bootloader. it may well be good enuff for most folks,but im not happy with that.
It's a good thought tho. Yeah the htc method for the EVO users sucked. I Mena u could still flash roms and such bit they had to have a stock kernel as a default In order to flashed em thru recovery. But I wouldn't be to happy with that either. So I can't blame ya. But if that all we were offered then I would have to live with it.
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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i would wait. we waited for evo 3d root far longer.
it really is a great phone. read engadgets review. they really explain the screen resolution very well with graphs. its sold as a music phone but at this time it is the best screen res in the world. the nexus and razor are inferior in that area. watching hd video on it is pretty cool
disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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htc has been locking their bootloaders,this is nothing new. in the past,its just been easy to find work arounds to either turn of the radio secure flag off,or to sneek an eng hboot(that pretends the radio is s-off ) onto the device,and its always happend quickly,in most cases before the device even came out.
to my knowledge there is not encription,like there is with moto bootloaders,ist just that we currently have no way to write a new hboot in place of the current one.
if there is not a real engineering hboot for the rezound,its not too difficult to patch a stock hboot to not do radio checks,and to provide fastboot commands,and even protect itself from being overwritten(all these are characteristics of the revolutionary hboot), its just a matter of an exploit to get it in place.
i know i sort of started that ball rolling with my comment, but i wouldnt give up just yet. hopefully someone whose smarter than us will figure it out. or the clip will support it. or both
im not saying i wont get it,but im still happy with my thunderbolt,i dont need a new phone yet,so i will wait untill we have s-off,or possibly until 4 core processors come out next year
disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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C'mon, the phone hasn't even been out a week. It takes time, but the devs almost always find a way in.
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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fernando sor said:
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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That was the rumor. I never got in to see for myself, but heard more than a few actual devs say it was.
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Well if it helps, the RUU didn't work. It aborted midway through and gave an HBOOT error. I might try again, but it's probably not worth losing my data for.
If it can be done xtc clip will do it and if they can do it alpha rev and unrevoked will pull it off as well let's just give them some time.... I'm not worried at all at the moment
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I still have some time before I can get my upgrade so maybe it will be unlocked before then. This phone is on my list of phones I like. Sorry for messing up the thread. Good luck guys
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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Wow that's a great thought. But the hboot would remain the same. Wiether u had 1.30 or 1.40 to begin with. They never released there exploit tho. I know it had to do with the kernel and htc patched it with the 2.08 update. Bastards LOL.
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So its just a way to put different stock software on a phone, lol what a fail.
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pretty much..HTC has gotten better and better plugging there holes. For the EVO 3D we had some of the best DEVs working on it. Def wasnt easy for them, but now if u dont have an older Hboot you cant use AlphaREvs method. WEll hopefully they'll figure ours out as wel
Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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I'm sure they are working on it they are quit to do it.... You can always contact them on twitter
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Do you know what their twitter name is. Probably unrevoked and alpharev?
So after roughly a week and few days my 3vo which I had only two days with before sending in, is coming back with all new front assembly, very excited! Now I'm curious I have not gottena chance to root this phone but I do know it is on 1.5 hboot will that be a serious problem or is there a decent work around?
Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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thizzlemania91 said:
Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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you might throw up during the process though.
But it'll be a good puke! You'll feel refreshed and accomplished.
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you might throw up during the process though.
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Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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Realize you are excited OP, but did you need another thread for your repair story?
Here is link to downgrade hboot when you do get it back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Wolf Counselor said:
Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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After coming from rooting my LG (press a button in superonclick to root, then running a batch file to put on CWM), the htc is a mega pain to get access.
The common theme I've noticed after being in 3 different sub-forums is that all users complain about the manufacturers not releasing code. I'm not surprised the companies don't but it makes everything so hard. So just realise it isn't just HTC being a pain it's pretty much every company.
Very glad that there is hope for 1.5's Hbooters I do wonder what hboot version HTC will try to enforce on the E3D when ICS comes via OTA.
Not working on this Anymore i gave up on a deoxed rom, but have no FEAR
GO HEAR
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=1342291
much better than plain old stock anyways
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EclipzeRemix said:
Hi
I have been working on this for a while, I am at school now but expect a DL link within the next 24 Hours (Mabey less)
Will upload AFTER I S OFF my amaze and flash the new radio to test it
Cheers
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Nice! Did you get dodexing to work? I gave up on it..
EclipzeRemix said:
Hi
I have been working on this for a while, I am at school now but expect a DL link within the next 24 Hours (Mabey less)
Will upload AFTER I S OFF my amaze and flash the new radio to test it
Cheers
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This will only be useful to the people who have S-OFF or who have already done the official update right? You'd probably save yourself and others some headache by mentioning that. I'm sure you're gonna put in all the details when it's ready, I'm just saying.
superevilllama said:
Nice! Did you get dodexing to work? I gave up on it..
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Thats where I get tripped up too...
craigtut said:
Thats where I get tripped up too...
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Damn it, I need you to theme this like AOSP immediately. I need blue icons in a stock statusbar. BLUE ICONS I tell you! =]
Seriously though. Looking forward to your updated theme heh
superevilllama said:
Damn it, I need you to theme this like AOSP immediately. I need blue icons in a stock statusbar. BLUE ICONS I tell you! =]
Seriously though. Looking forward to your updated theme heh
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I want to theme it so I can use it! Hahaha
I've never done my own Deodexing before so starting with trying to figure it out with Ics isn't working out well so far.
craigtut said:
I want to theme it so I can use it! Hahaha
I've never done my own Deodexing before so starting with trying to figure it out with Ics isn't working out well so far.
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I know. I did read that the kitchen had an issue or used to have an issue with deodexing stock ICS roms. There was a fix or something that needed to be changed/edited that allowed it to work, something about extracting system.img differnetly I thought. Sigh.
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I know. I did read that the kitchen had an issue or used to have an issue with deodexing stock ICS roms. There was a fix or something that needed to be changed/edited that allowed it to work, something about extracting system.img differnetly I thought. Sigh.
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O that could be it! I'll look into it!
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I am very looking forward to downloading this ROM since I did not really
want to re-lock my bootloader.
But i just wanted to ask, is there anyway I could install your upcoming rom
without getting the S-OFF? is it a requirement?
i skimmed thru some of the s-off instructions and became speechless
after seeing sticking the wire on the back of the unit.....too much for me i guess lol
i miss the old days when my mytouch 4g was so easy to s-off.
mspecnur said:
I am very looking forward to downloading this ROM since I did not really
want to re-lock my bootloader.
But i just wanted to ask, is there anyway I could install your upcoming rom
without getting the S-OFF? is it a requirement?
i skimmed thru some of the s-off instructions and became speechless
after seeing sticking the wire on the back of the unit.....too much for me i guess lol
i miss the old days when my mytouch 4g was so easy to s-off.
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Well you have to do one of those two you just mentioned
S OFF or Relock bootloader and apply the update that way
i would recommend do the hboot method if you are scared of S OFF,
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thanks for the prompt response.
so what you are saying is: either way, I would have to update the ph85img with hboot
to install your rom?
would it be impossible to flash a rom from GB to ICS without going thru the hboot process?
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thanks for the prompt response.
so what you are saying is: either way, I would have to update the ph85img with hboot
to install your rom?
would it be impossible to flash a rom from GB to ICS without going thru the hboot process?
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yes if you have S OFF, no otherwise
You have to install the new hboot to install the NFC, people were having problems with it failing or something along those lines.
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mspecnur said:
I am very looking forward to downloading this ROM since I did not really
want to re-lock my bootloader.
But i just wanted to ask, is there anyway I could install your upcoming rom
without getting the S-OFF? is it a requirement?
i skimmed thru some of the s-off instructions and became speechless
after seeing sticking the wire on the back of the unit.....too much for me i guess lol
i miss the old days when my mytouch 4g was so easy to s-off.
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S-off is required because there is a new radio , and s-off is needed for that, don't worry about the wire thing, just be careful and follow the instructions and you should be fine, so far I've seen only one person that has bricked the phone
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eggydrums said:
S-off is required because there is a new radio , and s-off is needed for that, don't worry about the wire thing, just be careful and follow the instructions and you should be fine, so far I've seen only one person that has bricked the phone
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S-OFF is not required , you could just flash the RUU and you will get the new Radio i have no reason for S-OFF, im learning and dont want to brick my phone
EclipzeRemix said:
S-OFF is not required , you could just flash the RUU and you will get the new Radio i have no reason for S-OFF, im learning and dont want to brick my phone
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If no s=off, can they still unlock bootloader with ics ROM? I heard that was causing issues. And people were unable to get s=off since drunkenbear was designed for GB. I could always be wrong
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glacierguy said:
If no s=off, can they still unlock bootloader with ics ROM? I heard that was causing issues. And people were unable to get s=off since drunkenbear was designed for GB. I could always be wrong
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Yes I'm rooted with a custom recovery and with ics S ON, they will make it for ics soon
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EclipzeRemix said:
Yes I'm rooted with a custom recovery and with ics S ON, they will make it for ics soon
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Hope they will have an update to the
Heart In Mouth - Heart Stopping - Sweating Palms wire trick, I too am still chicken so far.
Got my insulated paper clip on standby just incase I strike up the nerve to do it.
CalicoJeb said:
Hope they will have an update to the
Heart In Mouth - Heart Stopping - Sweating Palms wire trick, I too am still chicken so far.
Got my insulated paper clip on standby just incase I strike up the nerve to do it.
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Too funny! Because that's what literally was happening..but it actually was pretty easy if you read what NOT to do...lol watch the video someone posted. And remember you don't wait 17 secs you wait 1.75 secs. So ALMOST 2 seconds to tap the ground side again after the first tap.
Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
So I'm trying to do the ics update and when I tell it to check for updates, it says "your phone is up to date, there are no updates availabe"
Why won't it give me the update? I tried restarting the phone. Also tried turning off WiFi and doing it on 4g.
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Now or never
Update for "HTC Watch" but no ICS...it worked before dammit! I just didn't know I was rooted so it didn't work. Now I'm back to STOCK unrooted/locked and it won't get the OTA. Going to try manually...
just to add, I got the phone 9 days and its bone stock never rooted.
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Update for "HTC Watch" but no ICS...it worked before dammit! I just didn't know I was rooted so it didn't work. Now I'm back to STOCK unrooted/locked and it won't get the OTA. Going to try manually...
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This seems to be happening to a lot of people including me. Can't find a clear answer, all anyone says is to flash the leaked Rom. I dont wanna flash the leak Damn it! Lol. And the thread will probably get deletes like all the others...
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Keep checking for software updates, it'll tell you there is no update when the server load is high, after all, everyone is updating. If you're s-on just make sure you're on complete stock, if not flash the stock ruu via hboot, if you used the leaked ICS, well your chances are nada unless you s-off.
what is s-on and s-off?
Had to manually update from hboot. Got a little scared as the phone turned off when I was updating. Pressed the power button and it came back to hboot then it updated from there.
Security ON or Security OFF, if you're off, you can downgrade and flash the official ICS or upgrade to any of the leaked or official files, while on the other hand if you're on, well you have to do everything officially and there's no downgrading allowed.
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Keep checking for software updates, it'll tell you there is no update when the server load is high, after all, everyone is updating. If you're s-on just make sure you're on complete stock, if not flash the stock ruu via hboot, if you used the leaked ICS, well your chances are nada unless you s-off.
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Hey Dark, remember you said yesterday about flashing the stock recovery and relocking my BL via Hasoon? Will it all went as planned last night, dies that mean I'm back to stock, or will I still have to flash the GB RUU?
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papeshfoo said:
Hey Dark, remember you said yesterday about flashing the stock recovery and relocking my BL via Hasoon? Will it all went as planned last night, dies that mean I'm back to stock, or will I still have to flash the GB RUU?
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Everything is stock, so you should be clear. Just make sure your software version corresponds with one of tmo's stock software id's for GB.
You don't have to relock the BL by the way, you just have to be on stock recovery/software.
Dark Nightmare said:
Everything is stock, so you should be clear. Just make sure your software version corresponds with one of tmo's stock software id's for GB.
You don't have to relock the BL by the way, you just have to be on stock recovery/software.
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Ok good, mine is the same as the OPs...thanks for all the help.
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papeshfoo said:
Ok good, mine is the same as the OPs...thanks for all the help.
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No prob buddy, just keep spamming that software check button now lol.
papeshfoo said:
This seems to be happening to a lot of people including me. Can't find a clear answer, all anyone says is to flash the leaked Rom. I dont wanna flash the leak Damn it! Lol. And the thread will probably get deletes like all the others...
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[Rant]It gets deleted because there are like 50 threads opened up every time a noob has an issue. This site is not www.noobsupportRus.com. It's a site for development. If u screw up your phone because you didn't read or know what you're doing, its not worthy of opening a new thread begging for help.
Now, if someone were to get the Amaze, they wouldn't know where to start because of all the clutter yapping about the same **** over and over.
If you're a noob unwilling to read, then leave ur phone stock or pay someone. Moderators have been asking for this over and over and over... It gets old.
Has anyone wondered where most of the regular senior members went lately? I've never seen any forum like the Amaze forum... Where noobs actually run people away from xda with stupidity. [/Rant]
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For the record, it was proven by mrmako earlier that the leak and official updates are the very same version, etc.
papeshfoo said:
I dont wanna flash the leak Damn it!
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this is odd to me. why wouldnt you flash the leak? do you think t-mobile magically cooks up ota's to send out to its subscribers? ota's come from the manufacturer (with the exception of GED's) and are sent to carriers for testing. the carrier then decides whether it will accept the ota or reject it. this is why you saw a revision in the build number from .1 to .3. .3 was accepted and pushed out to amaze owners, over-the-air.
the leak is just an earlier release of the final product. im not sure whats so hard to understand about that? you guys that were waiting, couldve been running the ota ics like 2 weeks ago...
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this is odd to me. why wouldnt you flash the leak? do you think t-mobile magically cooks up ota's to send out to its subscribers? ota's come from the manufacturer (with the exception of GED's) and are sent to carriers for testing. the carrier then decides whether it will accept the ota or reject it. this is why you saw a revision in the build number from .1 to .3. .3 was accepted and pushed out to amaze owners, over-the-air.
the leak is just an earlier release of the final product. im not sure whats so hard to understand about that? you guys that were waiting, couldve been running the ota ics like 2 weeks ago...
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Just give up... I'm starting to think we are the only ones whobread each other's posts. People are gonna be their own "experts."
Good luck waiting for ICS. When mt4g got ota gingerbread, my stock unrooted glacier never got the update. I had to flash it in bootloader (which nobody here will do since its not ota... Amh)
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so i assume the way everything has been going we will get it in 2 months
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-deliver-jelly-bean-and-sense-4-upgrade-one-s-x-and-xl-month
Idk about "we" as in evo lte, but yes, one x and one s will...sprints probably going to be late, but I'm sure we can depend on the developers to pull something when its released
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Even if we get it, I'm still not not updating. Not until I have S-OFF...
Rocklee99 said:
Idk about "we" as in evo lte, but yes, one x and one s will...sprints probably going to be late, but I'm sure we can depend on the developers to pull something when its released
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Well from the history of this phone and one x we have been getting the updates about a month after...one can hope
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Very cool! Can't wait for JB! Sad how the OneX+ doesn't have 2gb Ram and 1080p screen....
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Well from the history of this phone and one x we have been getting the updates about a month after...one can hope
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Yeah, but only fixes to problems. Nothing like this yet. We'll see if they pull through. Like I said though, either way, I'll be waiting for S-OFF.
I hope the focus on fixing the LTE issue with these phones before worrying about JB.
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I hope the focus on fixing the LTE issue with these phones before worrying about JB.
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That was supposed to be addressed in the last update. What problems are you having?
eXplicit815 said:
Yeah, but only fixes to problems. Nothing like this yet. We'll see if they pull through. Like I said though, either way, I'll be waiting for S-OFF.
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people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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Tell me about it. People have a fascination with S-off, thinking their phones will magically start doing something they haven't already been doing.
People listen and wake up, we can do the same thing as people with s-off do. We just have to go about it a different way.
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I heard that if you have soff your phone can make you pb&j sandwiches.
eXplicit815 said:
That was supposed to be addressed in the last update. What problems are you having?
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The LTE threshold issue on the EVO LTE.
om4 said:
I heard that if you have soff your phone can make you pb&j sandwiches.
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So that is why I wake up every morning with a sandwich next to my bed!
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shook187 said:
Tell me about it. People have a fascination with S-off, thinking their phones will magically start doing something they haven't already been doing.
People listen and wake up, we can do the same thing people as people with s-off do. We just have to go about it a different way.
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bog3nator said:
people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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Look, it's not that I'm stuck in some mindset that S-OFF is the key to everything. I understand that I can go through the HTCdev method, but I choose not to. My preference is S-OFF.
eXplicit815 said:
Look, it's not that I'm stuck in some mindset that S-OFF is the key to everything. I understand that I can go through the HTCdev method, but I choose not to. My preference is S-OFF.
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So you will just not root your phone till you get s-off? Bc when the phone first came out all there was, was HTC dev unlock. Sitting with stock Rom is no fun...
And if you are not rooted or rooted it maybe a few version of android before soff comes out (if it does) which will keep you on old software and really not take advantage of new goodies
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bog3nator said:
So you will just not root your phone till you get s-off? Bc when the phone first came out all there was, was HTC dev unlock. Sitting with stock Rom is no fun...
And if you are not rooted or rooted it maybe a few version of android before soff comes out (if it does) which will keep you on old software and really not take advantage of new goodies
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I get what you're saying. But my preference is to have S-OFF. I don't have to update right now. I'm sitting on 1.15, and just waiting. Granted, there are features that I'm looking for from Jelly Bean that I want to have, which is why I want to root my phone. But, if Jelly Bean comes before we get an S-OFF method, then I may just update and let it go to whatever is there. I'd prefer to have S-OFF though. That's how I've gone with my EVO 3D, so I'm accustomed to that method.
I understand, it is "easier" but there are a lot of people on xda now thinking it us the end if the world ... All I want people to understand is that there are work arounds. To each their own
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I can understand people not wanting to update due to S-on. I mean, OTA update or running RUU to update firmware will also update hboot, which someone who's been hanging in there praying 1.15 is almost cracked,..well the last thing they're gonna wanna do is update hboot.
Hell, accepting S-on and the workarounds may be the only thing to do. With the amount of hboot updates HTC is releasing, I have to imagine anyone working on S-off has probably already just thrown up their hands.
I'm S-off, but still haven't updated radio or firmware due to the fact that at this point, downgrading bricks.
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scottspa74 said:
I can understand people not wanting to update due to S-on. I mean, OTA update or running RUU to update firmware will also update hboot, which someone who's been hanging in there praying 1.15 is almost cracked,..well the last thing they're gonna wanna do is update hboot.
Hell, accepting S-on and the workarounds may be the only thing to do. With the amount of hboot updates HTC is releasing, I have to imagine anyone working on S-off has probably already just thrown up their hands.
I'm S-off, but still haven't updated radio or firmware due to the fact that at this point, downgrading bricks.
Sorry for OT
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The fact that HTC has updated the HBoot 3 times since the release of the phone doesn't make things difficult. If anything, it would indicate that HTC is finding holes in their HBoot, and just patching them as they update the software. There are a lot of people sitting on 1.15 right now waiting for something to happen. I'm sure there's someone working on cracking it, it's just a matter of time, and how many people are possibly working on it. I'd like to think that there is someone working on it, but it's still not being put out there that it actually is by anyone. That's what people are all up in arms about.
Not necessarily, they may be adding extra support for in-house development, adding support for extra hardware, or they could be just cleaning up the code from the last update