Hello folks,
new here, but no new to Android, although I am not expert, thus please be patient
I have a 2-yr old Aria, which I rooted as soon as the warranty expired and it also has ClockworkMod Recovery on it, version 2.5.0.1. It is still running the stock 2.1 Eclair ROM, the really old one, with no OTA option.
Few days ago I became a victim of the infamous "download unsuccessful" issue with Market (running on 2.1 my Aria does not have Google Market). It just happened out of the blue, I had not installed any new application or done anything weird as root. After having tried all imaginable fixes, referring to the many Google search hit on the subject, but with no effect, I contacted Google support. Their suggestion: do a FDR....
Now, if I have to wipe my phone and rebuild the system, I'd rather take the plunge and upgrade to Froyo.I am getting a new phone soon, which will have ICS, therefore I am not interested at this time in any alternate ROM, the stock 2.2 from AT&T will do. I downloaded it a while ago but never upgraded.
My questions is: what is the correct procedure to upgrade to stock 2.2 Froyo with no danger of bricking the phone, since I have ClockworkMod on it? Do I just run the upgrade following the instructions on HTC web site because it will wipe CWM anyway or should I use the "apply sdcard:update.zip" or "install zip from sdcard" options in CWM Recovery main menu?
Also, should I decide to just do a FDR and go back to the original 2.1 ROM as Google suggested, the right way of doing it is through the "wipe data/factory reset" option in ClockworkMod Recovery, NOT through the "Factory Data Reset" option under "Settings -> Privacy", correct?
For many of you the answers will be obvious, but as much as I have searched over the internet, I have not found a straight answer, especially to my first question (how to upgrade to stock Froyo if you have ClockworkMod installed)
Thanks in advance for any guidance you may provide.
Batman66 said:
run the upgrade following the instructions on HTC web site because it will wipe CWM anyway
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This
And factory reset in Android or recovery - doesn't really matter. Might be faster through recovery
WinSuk,
thanks for the speedy reply!! I suppose you mean doing a Factory Data Reset AFTER I run the HTC upgrade to 2.2, right?
And one more question, if I may: I believe I will lose root once I upgrade to stock Froyo, correct? At this time I do not mind, as Froyo should add a couple of missing features in Eclair that made me root in the first place, namely moving apps to SD and clearing the apps Data.
Thanks again! :good:
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WinSuk,
thanks for the speedy reply!! I suppose you mean doing a Factory Data Reset AFTER I run the HTC upgrade to 2.2, right?
And one more question, if I may: I believe I will lose root once I upgrade to stock Froyo, correct? At this time I do not mind, as Froyo should add a couple of missing features in Eclair that made me root in the first place, namely moving apps to SD and clearing the apps Data.
Thanks again! :good:
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I meant about your second question..
It will wipe data automatically when updating. And yes, no more root
Oh, I get it now. I misinterpreted the "And" at the beginning of your second sentence. Reading on other forums about people who had upgraded their phones from Ginger Bread to Ice Scream Sandwich, I noticed that many of them had to do a FDR after upgrading to get everything working right. I thought you were referring to something similar, although in this case I see how it wouldn't make much sense, since everything that has to do with Eclair 2.1 will be completely wiped off the phone by the 2.2 install.
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Good evening,
I recently decided to root my Eris and flash a recovery image (via unlockr.com). After that, I installed Grdlock's VanillaDroid 1.0. So far, it seems very good. However, when I look at the software information now, i notice it no longer says "test keys". It now says "release keys". Does this mean I no longer have a ROOTED 2.1 eris? If it's still rooted, what can I do to go back to 2.1 root? And is there a way to keep my contact's list from disappearing everytime I flash something?
TIA,
David Fernandez
You're still rooted. Made my heart skip a beat the first time i read it too. You're just using a ROM based on a more stable version of 2.1 (one the leaks) but since you already have root and your recovery image you're just fine. I believe the leak with test keys was a prior version and only required really for establishing root.
As far as how to go back, simply flash a new rom after wiping the phone and dalvik cache. Your contacts should be backed up with your main gmail account so its only a matter of logging into your account when setting up the phone with a new rom.
Thanks a lot for your help, sir. It worked like a charm. Are you familiar with the custom recovery image for the Eris on theunlockr.com? I was curious because I wanted to know if i could use that to do a backup image of my phone.
I switched over to the Evil Eris rom and am much happier with that setup. As for the previous custom rom....can I delete that off my phone via my computer?
Thanks again for all your help, sir. I really appreciate it.
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You're still rooted. Made my heart skip a beat the first time i read it too....
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my heart skipped a beat too when reading!
My wife has a stock unrooted Vibrant running 2.1, and recently she's started having speed issues and the Youtube app has stopped working, so she's asked me to fix it. I was thinking I'd just root and flash her phone with a 2.2 ROM so she could get some tweaks, rather than just update to stock 2.2. I just had a few questions on the flashing process.
1) When I flash a ROM, do I have to go into CWM and wipe data, cache, and Dalvik, or can I just flash over a stock 2.1 install?
2) Whenever I want to flash a new ROM, do I have to return to stock 2.1, and then re-root?
3) Does returning to stock 2.1 delete the phone's user data?
4) Does flashing a new ROM delete user data?
5) Would updating to stock unrooted 2.2 using the Samsung tool delete the user data?
Also, does anyone have any suggestions on a ROM to flash? I'd probably go to a 2.2 ROM, and I was looking at Trigger 3.2, but I'm open to suggestions.
1) Always do all 3 + fix permissions total of 4 options in CmRecovery
2) Flashing FROYO ROMs is easy and can be done with out the need to ODIN. Its just when flashing 2.3 GB ROMs initially that will require ODIN.
3) Wiping of SD cards is known to have different results, for different users, in different situations, at different times, during different moon phases. LOL. jkjk, but to be honest ALWAYS make a backup! Move the backup from the phone to ur PC or else.
4) Same answer as 3
5) Not sure
6) Its gawd awful hott here!!!
7) Good luck!
Thanks for the quick reply
Also, I agree with 6). I burned myself getting into my car yesterday. Stupid Texas weather....
The AC went out at my werk yesterday, ugh. Back up now but still sittin at 79* even tho I got the thermostat down to 65*
*Tip*
My sisters Vibrant started to crap out last week and I almost shot myself trying to find a ROM with her that she'd like. Eventually I gave up and we went with @Whitehawkx stock 2.2. BOOM! EPIC win/win
It looks like Bionix has a 2.2 ROM that removes the Touchwiz Launcher. My wife currently uses ADW anyways, so that might help speed up her phone a bit and free up some memory for her apps.
After updating my O1 to Gingerbread two friends complained about receiving just half of the message right and the rest of it with squares/boxes, (at) or Chinese characters, this just happens after x characters, since they get short messages without problems. I think this just happened to them, I'm not sure. Others receive the whole message without any problem. I'm not sure if the problem is the Stock ROM, their cellphones or if I configured my cellphone wrong. Any ideas about what's wrong?
Ps: I'm so sorry about my English, it isn't so good.
hi Phoenix232,
there are seldom any problems like this in a newly updated firmware.
still try master reset.
If that doesn't helps i would recommend updating again.
Good luck.
I'm so sorry to ask this but what are the button combinations I need to press to do the master reset?(It's the same as hard reset I think?) I've been searching but I can't find the right buttons for the P500.
EDIT: Actually, I think I found out how to do it, it's HOME+Vol. Down+Power, but if I do this I get in Recovery Mode.
EDIT 2: Yep, it looks like I need to do this without any recovery installed. I'll try it later. Thanks.
Hello Phoenix232,
I have an O1 myself and I think that I can help you. Please answer my following questions:
1) Did you update to Stock firmware or are you using an CFW?
2) Wich version did you happen to have installed before gingerbread?
3) Which version came pre-installed in your device?
I guess that since you can boot to Recovery mode you are using a CFW, am I right? But if you remove the Recovery, did the Master Reset help?
BR
1) Stock
2)Stock Froyo ROM with Franco Kernel
3) Stock Froyo ROM
I just rooted it, installed recovery and installed franco's kernel. I removed the recovery, did the reset, but it's happening the same thing.
Im currently facing a similar issue, people telling me they simply didnt get my SMS.
Having this issue after installing a new rom.
With me they get half of the message and the other half is just squares or chinese characters.
Dear Phoenix232,
I think that that the best procedure for you is to first go back to original O1 Froyo ROM without mods or root, master reset, them perform the upgrade to official O1 GB and master reset again if you want to use a stock ROM with no mods. Please be warned that this procedure can kill your handset, and since you already rooted and changed kernels you probably voided your warranty so be extra careful with all that.
I haven't already upgraded my O1 since it is my primary work handset, can't risk loosing all my info, but I've done a very similar procedure with a Motorola Milestone and it was all OK (2.1 stock, 2.2 shadowmod, them back to stock 2.1 and finally stock 2.2). You just can't root and change kernels then try to upgrade directly to GB stock without first going 100% back to Froyo stock. (no root, stock kernel etc...). Manufacturers tend to taylor their Android OS upgrades based in the previous version so everything must be exactly the same as it was when you first purchased it for the upgrade to work correctly in the end.
Good Luck!
That makes sense. I'll try it right now and post the result asap. Thanks.
I got back to Fryo and the SMSs are working fine. I'm upgrading to gingerbread now.
Question: Can I root it after doing everything you wrote? Or it'll bug again?
Hi, This topic should have been a reply to the AiO one on the development board but since the board software thinks I'm too new to post to developments forums I'm forced to create a new topic here on General, So I'm really sorry if I did something wrong (Guess what, I'm new!)
So, I wanted to upgrade my Tablet S to a pre-rooted ICS while I had a 3.2.1r2.
I rooted it, did all the steps to have a working custom_update.zip,while flashing the custom_update thing, text warned me that I was flashing the pre-rooted, init.d'ed, whatever custom rom, so I though it was all going to be fine..
Then I discovered that Superuser wasn't there, neither was busybox and basically root in general was gone, while the "rescure-backdoor" wasn't.
Checking the topics I discovered that my best solution was to downgrade to 3.2.1r2 and do the whole thing again.
So that's what I did, I wiped the whole system and Honeycomb started without problem, except that it turns back to not-really-pre-rooted ICS the next time I reboot.
This wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the fact that I need to reboot the tablet some times to get root, and I need root to decrypt and prepare the custom update.
So, what am I doing wrong? I searched here and there and didn't find a solution yet .
Sometimes you need to do a factory reset or else it flips back to ICS from HC. I haven't always had to do it; I'm not sure what the contributing factor is there. Essentially there are two system partitions (system0 and system1) and the bootloader makes a decision on which one to boot based on unknown criteria. It can be a bit quirky after downgrading, but a factory reset seems to clear it up.
SOLVED.. but how?
I knew that, I wiped everything each time I reverted to 3.2.1, maybe I forgot to mention that.
But it didn't directly boot to ICS, it did boot to Honeycomb, THEN the next time I boot I'm back to ICS again.
I did manage to stop this, however.. how? I don't know, something like the 4/5th time I re-flashed it worked.
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I knew that, I wiped everything each time I reverted to 3.2.1, maybe I forgot to mention that.
But it didn't directly boot to ICS, it did boot to Honeycomb, THEN the next time I boot I'm back to ICS again.
I did manage to stop this, however.. how? I don't know, something like the 4/5th time I re-flashed it worked.
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Wipe before first boot of 3.2.1 is VERY IMPORTANT.
Downgrade step-by-step is described in AiO thread in FAQ section.
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Hello - I didn't like the updates I heard about in the factory 2.3.6 ROM update, so I skipped it. And, I'm rooted.
So, a few questions:
Can I upgrade directly from 2.3.4 to ICS from a rooted phone? Or do I need to step-up to 2.3.6 first?
Do I need to actually unroot before I do any of this?
Can I re-root once I go ICS?
I've heard that the best bet is to do a factory reset after upgrading to ICS. If I do this, is the best bet to do a Titanium Backup app & data backup/restore process? Are there any better solutions to capture all my data that I'd lose with a reset?
Any info/insights greatly appreciated. Note: I have searched far and wide on XDA for answers to these questions, but I could not find any direct answers that made me feel confident enough to move forward. So, any direct response appreciated.
Thx.
Jon
JonDeutsch said:
Hello - I didn't like the updates I heard about in the factory 2.3.6 ROM update, so I skipped it. And, I'm rooted.
So, a few questions:
Can I upgrade directly from 2.3.4 to ICS from a rooted phone? Or do I need to step-up to 2.3.6 first?
Do I need to actually unroot before I do any of this?
Can I re-root once I go ICS?
I've heard that the best bet is to do a factory reset after upgrading to ICS. If I do this, is the best bet to do a Titanium Backup app & data backup/restore process? Are there any better solutions to capture all my data that I'd lose with a reset?
Any info/insights greatly appreciated. Note: I have searched far and wide on XDA for answers to these questions, but I could not find any direct answers that made me feel confident enough to move forward. So, any direct response appreciated.
Thx.
Jon
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1. yes, you can upgrade straight from 2.3.4 I've done it.
2. you don't need to unroot before - the upgrade will unroot you.
3. your best bet is NOT TO FACTORY RESET AFTER UPGRADE - IT COULD BRICK YOU BECAUSE OF A KNOWN BUG IN FACTORY KERNEL
4. If you want rooted version of upgrade look for the odin.heimdall version the Creepyncrawly put in the development section.
or you could try Semi UCLE5 that i have linked in the signature. It looks like the stock upgrade but it is smoother, among other things.
Good luck!
Jon first of all, you can always upgrade to any new update regardless of your Android version so it's a Yes to your first question. Secondly, whenever you update to a stock ROM your device gets unrooted itself so you'll have to root it again.
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Jack Man & uetfreak - thanks! Great feedback.
A couple follow-on questions for Jack Man:
I've read about the kernel bug, but THANK YOU for reminding me that it would affect a simple factory reset. Yeesh, that's a pretty serious bug when a standard reset could brick a phone. So, one remedy, as you say, is to go with UCLE5. Smoother sounds ideal to me (I've heard that ICS on GS2 is a bit jittery on the homescreens, which totally stinks). But if I go with OCLE5, that's a custom ROM so that means I'll lose the ability to do the OEM upgrade to keep all my apps & data intact, correct?
If that's correct, what's the best way to ensure all my settings, contacts, apps, data can be easily restored on a wiped phone? I have Titanium Backup + Root. I assume I'd keep root with OCLE5? And would I just run a TB restore on apps & data (and not system settings)? Are there any system settings I can backup/restore safely between ROMs/OS versions?
I've never flashed a custom ROM so I don't know how y'all keep all your stuff intact as you switch around!
Thx.
Jon
JonDeutsch said:
Jack Man & uetfreak - thanks! Great feedback.
A couple follow-on questions for Jack Man:
I've read about the kernel bug, but THANK YOU for reminding me that it would affect a simple factory reset. Yeesh, that's a pretty serious bug when a standard reset could brick a phone. So, one remedy, as you say, is to go with UCLE5. Smoother sounds ideal to me (I've heard that ICS on GS2 is a bit jittery on the homescreens, which totally stinks). But if I go with OCLE5, that's a custom ROM so that means I'll lose the ability to do the OEM upgrade to keep all my apps & data intact, correct?
If that's correct, what's the best way to ensure all my settings, contacts, apps, data can be easily restored on a wiped phone? I have Titanium Backup + Root. I assume I'd keep root with OCLE5? And would I just run a TB restore on apps & data (and not system settings)? Are there any system settings I can backup/restore safely between ROMs/OS versions?
I've never flashed a custom ROM so I don't know how y'all keep all your stuff intact as you switch around!
Thx.
Jon
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Well, first, since you have never flashed a custom rom I would suggest reading until you're sick of reading before flashing. It will pay off in the long run. Regarding flashing from 2.3.4 up to Custom UCLE5 and keeping all of your apps and contacts - I'm not sure how that would go, honestly. For me, my contacts and calendar are saved on my computer through MSOutlook and I sync them with MyPhoneExplorer without any problems. Most of the apps I use (which is not a lot at all) I don't bother backing up when I flash roms and wipe data clean. I have backed up some in the past with Titanium Backup (pro version is worth it), but only if I know absolutely that I need the data from them. Otherwise, I have just done fresh installs of apps because I have read so much about people having ROM issues from restoring apps with titanium.
About losing the ability to do the OEM upgrade - If you ever want to you can, it'll just take time, and yes, you would have to wipe data anyway to go back to 2.3.4 then use KIES. Kind of a pain if you ask me. Plus, ask anyone here on custom stuff - once you go with a custom ROM, you won't want to go back to stock - EVER.
Hope this helps. feel free to pm me if you need. I'll be on the road for the next few days. remember - READ as much as you can. start with the "stickies" in the top of the main thread with a little pin on the left.
p.s. one more thing. Get yourself a usb jig. it's only a few buck online. once you start flashing roms you may want to try other ones. If you make a mistake somewhere, a jig can get you out of a jam quick.
Make sure to factory reset after. Ive read many problems with notifications messing up until the reset was done. I've done it no problems. On two seperate s2 i777s. Its always best to do this after a big update to the next version
j510 said:
Make sure to factory reset after. Ive read many problems with notifications messing up until the reset was done. I've done it no problems. On two seperate s2 i777s. Its always best to do this after a big update to the next version
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Good idea. I do resets if I come from gingerbread too. But I know with this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948) you have to make sure you have the kernel that is based off of the stock kernel - AJ's kernel to safely factory reset. I think you will get a boot loop if you factory reset with the Siyah installed. I could be wrong, but I remember getting a boot loop on mine when I had siyah installed. Maybe it was because i did a reset from settings/back up and reset/factory reset and then formatted the sd card (since I had so much useless crap on there, luckily backed up on my pc).
j510 said:
Make sure to factory reset after. Ive read many problems with notifications messing up until the reset was done. I've done it no problems. On two seperate s2 i777s. Its always best to do this after a big update to the next version
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You're kidding right? No do not tell him to factory reset with the stock kernel. If his phone has the big he could burn out his emmc chip. Then he would need to pay mobile tech videos to jtag it.
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you have to flash iOS on your phone first before you can upgrade to cupcake, immediately update to donut before rebooting, then you have to go through eclair, froyo, and you will find yourself at gingerbread. DO NOT REBOOT AFTER FLASHING GINGERBREAD!! you have to flash ICS during the shutdown process....if you miss your cue, you will have to start all over