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Is there really a big difference to speed, battery life etc? Sometimes I think with all the flashing there really is no difference and just pure placebo lol
Can anyone attest to real life performance increase? Does this phone have issues that are resolved with custom roms?
Thinking of getting this phone.
Thanks!
kingofthebraves said:
Is there really a big difference to speed, battery life etc? Sometimes I think with all the flashing there really is no difference and just pure placebo lol
Can anyone attest to real life performance increase? Does this phone have issues that are resolved with custom roms?
Thinking of getting this phone.
Thanks!
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This phone is amazing with a nice custom ROM , OCed & Underclocked .
It reach's +4000 in quadrant .
First you need to ROOT it .
Root aside, I am talking about custom roms and real life day to day performance increase.
Quadrant scores and other benchmarks are not really useful because they can easily be "cheated" or tinkered to give a better score.
The first time I flashed a custom rom was with my N1 and speed and battery was noticeably much better. I was on stock for almost two months and the difference was amazing. I dunno with other users but with my NS i can't really tell a difference with stock and custom, that's why I am curious with the SGS2. I believe some people just flash custom roms or even make custom roms just to satiate their craving to do so Not that it's bad though
I'd say no - you can do all these things, obviously, but I wouldn't say you had to in order to have a good phone in your hand.
Mine is KE7 unbranded out of the box and I'm completely happy with it unrooted & unflashed etc. Getting at least 20 hours per charge and no real issues to report. Yes, some people have niggles they want to solve but not all models/releases/versions of the SGSII seem to have them.
Get one, run it for a bit as it is then decide later on whether to fiddle with it and how much. It's a no-lose deal!
All depends how far you want to push the lump of plastic in your pocket, I guess!
Not a great deal of difference as of yet custom roms only a few weeks old as is the phone .
jje
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Not a great deal of difference as of yet custom roms only a few weeks old as is the phone .
jje
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This is exactly what I was thinking! But if you see the descriptions on the custom roms you'd think this phone would be able to bring you to hell and back! lol
This lifestyle of our's (flashing roms and all) can be really addicting and a waste of time and I really believe there's nothing really different about performance. Features yes but performance no. Maybe on the old SGS and N1 performance was highlighted with custom roms but with these newer phones I doubt.
Well I guess one reason to use a custom rom is to take out the beep whenever the battery is charged lol
I've had a nose for newest member of SE Walkman family, this small phone tweaked turns out to be powerful and perspective yet very affordable phone! Ice-cream sandwich officially announced, great sound, solid camera, and , and... overclockable hardware geek index 10+ No more introduction, lets get to numbers...
1. CM 7.2 ROM with its own kernel, OC-ed at max 1.6 GHZ stable, Quadrant score of 2700!!
2. Stock 4.0.2.A.0.58 ROM vanilla, Quadrant score 1800.
3. Stock 4.0.2.A.0.58 ROM with RAGE KERNEL V2 (OC open to 2.0 GHZ) on my phone goes 1.9 GHZ stable making Quadrant score of 2550 , will try tonight combining Cyanogenmod ROM and RAGE KERNEL V2, it should penetrate 3k barrier , geek's wet dream
No kernel at the moment is UV (undervolting) capable.
Software: Voltage control, tnx to xan http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107468
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, will try tonight combining Cyanogenmod ROM and RAGE KERNEL V2, it should penetrate 3k barrier
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did you tried that?
how do you get that kind of score in quadrant? I already OCed my wt19i to 1.9ghz and got only a score of 1800.. what tweaks did you applied?
Does benchmark score really matter that much to you guys? Its just numbers
Benchmarks are for people, who like to showoff.
These numbers are not important at all, the real performance is what matters.
since my galaxy mini with cm7 oc'd to 800mhz got higher score than my LWW, using quadrant advance, i quit believing those app....
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I did antutu test on CM7 on 2ghz.
Does this mean I have good CPU?
XperianPro said:
I did antutu test on CM7 on 2ghz.
Does this mean I have good CPU?
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Benchmarks do not show that kind of information.
Someguyfromhell said:
Benchmarks are for people, who like to showoff.
These numbers are not important at all, the real performance is what matters.
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Precisely. Benchmark score if bragged publicly is just like saying "my thing is bigger than yours". Just pure pathedic.
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I meant on stability.
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I meant on stability.
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Benchmark doesn't show stability...
Ok, yes, if you completed the test, your phone was stable for those few minutes.
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Benchmark doesn't show stability...
Ok, yes, if you completed the test, your phone was stable for those few minutes.
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Not few minutes,two hours.
oh, then the scores i got from benchmark is not really the true performance of my phone? thanks for the answers guys.
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oh, then the scores i got from benchmark is not really the true performance of my phone? thanks for the answers guys.
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What? People still believe on 'benchmarks'? It's numbers for bragging.
And also if you want to test the stability of your phone, there's this stress-testing tool to see if your oc/uv/uc is stable enough for normal everyday use. Click me.
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What? People still believe on 'benchmarks'? It's numbers for bragging.
And also if you want to test the stability of your phone, there's this stress-testing tool to see if your oc/uv/uc is stable enough for normal everyday use. Click me.
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Stability tests can be dangerous. When your phone can't take that much power(overclocked CPU), it might just kill itself(due to temperature).
Basically, just play a HD game on your phone and you can put fun and stability test to one.
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Stability tests can be dangerous. When your phone can't take that much power(overclocked CPU), it might just kill itself(due to temperature).
Basically, just play a HD game on your phone and you can put fun and stability test to one.
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thanks for the info.. then my way in testing my phone is right.
is there no compatibility between rom and kerner even if they are for the phone model
Hello everybody, I'm opening the thread just to read opinions from you all about the kernels that are currently available.
The one I've been using is void #echo, which in my humble opinion with the combination of a tweaked deadline scheduler and a lionheart governor provides great performance, battery life and minimum lag whatsoever.
I do understand that it depends on needs which shall be used, however, I would like to know which one to you guys works smoother and provides better performance / battery life.
I always aim for performance over battery life (I didn't buy a SGSII to get poor performance )
In terms of battery life, I can get it up to 22~23 hours on battery, using WCDMA only / HSPA+ during day and enabling airplane mode during night.
Fast Dormancy disabled and deep sleep working correctly (XXKL1).
I don't like the complexity of siyah and to be good on batt you have to tweak it more with UV and thing like that ,wish is not my style to make trying/errors on my brand new 600$phone !
I tried speed mod wish is very great actually with great overall perform
void echo is the one Im trying right now ! since 2 days its feel very strong and good on battery with good performance on games without getting the phone very hot
neak is good but its more a copy/past of the overall coders over wish is good in one sense but its a bit laggy in game with lucrative mod but defenatly one of my favorite kernel out there ! Im waiting for 1.3 to let simone correct some bugs
Siyah is the tweakers' heaven. You can fine tune every last bit of your phone.
I personally love void, it feels very fast and has good battery life.
I tried NEAK for a short time and it seemed fine but quite many report lag in games(using on demand governor seems to fix it though).
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
siyah 2.6.4.
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
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Great feedback bro, I tried Siyah in the past but honestly when I used it I didn't know there were parameters to tweak (didn't check the REF documentation LOL).
Do you get smoother behavior / better performance / higher benchmark scores tweaking the parameters? In quadrant I get around 4604 with void.echo.
as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
Phyxsyus said:
as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
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WoW that sounds nice, if you turn off RAWR what's the score?
kimitza said:
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
100% agree most of the battery better and greater speed for these kernels is actually unproven and just advertising bumf .
I have used the kernels listed in the topic and in each case stock kernel has benchmarked better using multiple tests .
jje
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kimitza said:
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
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I agree with your opinion, and that's the reason why I use only Sammy Stock ROMs
I've flashed a number of roms and kernels in the past few months since May, best combination for me is usually a near stock rom, plus a stable kernel like Speedmod, they just work without needing any tweaking apart from custom set up that's it.
I don't generally like the number of tweaks in some roms but each to their own.
I find stock fine and fluid and stable enough without much problems.
Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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kimitza said:
Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
Best kernel so far for me is hardcore's speedmod.
Fast, first time I broke the 6000 barrier on Antutu benchmark without overclock. And great battery life, one full day + charging only by the end of day two, with normal use.
Normal use for me is making phone calls, surfing web and playing games sometimes, not more than 20min per "session". Turning wifi and 3g off when phone on standby. And switching to airplane mode overnight.
And yes I tried other kernels....
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with. high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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Don't get me wrong, I do prefer all that, I just wanted to know what things are changed in those roms to get that performance.
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
rhai said:
I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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= high CPU usage .
jje
Can any one post some bencharks of roms? for example Stock Samsung ICS Rom and CM9? Really want to know if roms compared to stock Samsung and CM9 make diference in speed? Please
1) Benchmarks are meaningless. The only people who think benchmarks are useful are normally the people who fap off over their benchmark scores. They're simply not any indication of real world performance of the phone.
2) Why not flash each rom & run benchmarks yourself ? Easy to do.
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1) Benchmarks are meaningless. The only people who think benchmarks are useful are normally the people who fap off over their benchmark scores. They're simply not any indication of real world performance of the phone.
2) Why not flash each rom & run benchmarks yourself ? Easy to do.
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This ^
I can easily manipulate the same ROM and Kernel to get whatever Benchmark scores I want without too much difficulty, it would also likely be impossible for anyone to tell I did it other than the fact that my scores would be unbelievably high/low.
Also, some ROMs run better than others on a ROM/kernel combo depending on their ability to handle OC/UV and GPU tweaks, not every handset can handle these things in the same way (I have 2 GT-I9100Ms, one can handle heavy UV while the other doesn't seem to be able to handle any, based on the serial numbers they were manufactured at roughly the same time, possibly the same batch) so what benchmarks well for one person may show awful results for another.
Thank you for your replies. the thing is i dont have S2 any more and waiting for S3. but curious about ROM well samsung rom should have better optimisation of drivers and so on because it's their rom well thats what i think but thats why i posted this to find out. ok so in real life what do you think witch is faster on browsing gaming and so on?
You mean between S2 and S3? Its obvious..
Bout benchmarks, always get higher quadrant on stock, and low on cm9/ aosp. But aosp runs as fast or faster in real life.
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atifsh said:
You mean between S2 and S3? Its obvious..
Bout benchmarks, always get higher quadrant on stock, and low on cm9/ aosp. But aosp runs as fast or faster in real life.
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I agree here, Touchwiz based ROMs seem to benchmark higher, while AOSP seems smoother in real world situations, I'm sure there are people out there who have the opposite results, so you aren't likely to get a consensus on whether one is better/faster/smoother than the other.
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1) Benchmarks are meaningless. The only people who think benchmarks are useful are normally the people who fap off over their benchmark scores. They're simply not any indication of real world performance of the phone.
2) Why not flash each rom & run benchmarks yourself ? Easy to do.
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That's actually not true. Period.
fenjen said:
That's actually not true. Period.
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Did you write that one-handed? Question mark. (why are we writing punctuation?)
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Did you write that one-handed? Question mark. (why are we writing punctuation?)
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You do know it's to emphasise my point and it's a pretty common way to do it right?
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Yeah it is true. You bumped a two month old thread simply to say "That's actually not true. Period.", so let's hear it champ. Tell us why that's the case. Or are you just another benchmark fapper who's FOS ?
I gave up porn a long time ago to masturbate furiously over benchmarks. This has actually had numerous positive effects on both my social life and my sex life.
First, using benchmarks instead of porn allows me to tailor exactly the intensity of fapping I want at that time in a easy, quick and efficient way. No longer do I have to wade through numerous porn videos trying to find that one attractive girl or that one interesting concept to fap to - now I can simply tweak my ROM and Kernel a little bit and get a score which reflects my horniness. Say I'd been camping with my trio of male friends for a week and having to share a tent the entire time, naturally fapping in such a situation would be frowned upon. When I finally get home I would be ready for a really special fap, so maybe I'd tune the scores upto a good 9000 and really crank one out. For everyday use, I use a steady 6000 score. This allows me to really optimize the amount of time I spend fapping per day.
Secondly, exchanging porn for benchmarks has had an extremely positive effect on my Sex life. No more am I staring at Pornstar's penises amazed at their size and wishing I had a similar prowess in bed. No longer am I insecure about sex or constantly wondering whether women actually like getting slapped. Now, when I have sex, I'm thinking one thing and one thing only - a score of 12000 in Quadrant. I am 12000, I am that score, I embody that score, that score is me and it drives me to hump like a God. Indeed, I can attest to the fact that fapping over benchmarks is far better than porn. So I say go OP go, I understand your plight, don't let these meth head unemployed porn addicts ever talk you out of your love of benchmarks, stay strong OP, stay fapping.
Hahahahahaha ;-) That could be the greatest post on XDA. Ever.
I used stock indian rom which was way more scoring than galaxy nexus f1 rom.
Mostly the difference was in i/o score.
Still will show you the stock score with speedmod kernel. :thumbup:
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I am a hard gamer.
I dont really have time to try each rom which is the best, so I need your experience guys about which ROM that have the most stability and performance for gaming?
I dont need features, beautify the UI or etc.
All I care is super slim, simple, stability and performance.
I think this question will be frequently asked with Mido user who bought this phone because of its performance for gaming. We all know this is the most budget phone but very good performance both cpu and graphics.
And if anyone using tweaks like Ultimate Performance, Govtuner, or L Speed or even GLtools to improve the performance. Tell us here.
Thank you.
I am also waiting for custom kernel coz me also a hard gamer
maybe this is not the right phone being a hardcore gamer?
try slim rom
Faizaan M said:
I am also waiting for custom kernel coz me also a hard gamer
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Ok, lets we all wait.
endrancer said:
maybe this is not the right phone being a hardcore gamer?
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But this the best budget phone in term of performance.
dredremon said:
try slim rom
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I guess you haven't tried slim rom?