I've had a nose for newest member of SE Walkman family, this small phone tweaked turns out to be powerful and perspective yet very affordable phone! Ice-cream sandwich officially announced, great sound, solid camera, and , and... overclockable hardware geek index 10+ No more introduction, lets get to numbers...
1. CM 7.2 ROM with its own kernel, OC-ed at max 1.6 GHZ stable, Quadrant score of 2700!!
2. Stock 4.0.2.A.0.58 ROM vanilla, Quadrant score 1800.
3. Stock 4.0.2.A.0.58 ROM with RAGE KERNEL V2 (OC open to 2.0 GHZ) on my phone goes 1.9 GHZ stable making Quadrant score of 2550 , will try tonight combining Cyanogenmod ROM and RAGE KERNEL V2, it should penetrate 3k barrier , geek's wet dream
No kernel at the moment is UV (undervolting) capable.
Software: Voltage control, tnx to xan http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107468
domagoj_zg said:
, will try tonight combining Cyanogenmod ROM and RAGE KERNEL V2, it should penetrate 3k barrier
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did you tried that?
how do you get that kind of score in quadrant? I already OCed my wt19i to 1.9ghz and got only a score of 1800.. what tweaks did you applied?
Does benchmark score really matter that much to you guys? Its just numbers
Benchmarks are for people, who like to showoff.
These numbers are not important at all, the real performance is what matters.
since my galaxy mini with cm7 oc'd to 800mhz got higher score than my LWW, using quadrant advance, i quit believing those app....
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I did antutu test on CM7 on 2ghz.
Does this mean I have good CPU?
XperianPro said:
I did antutu test on CM7 on 2ghz.
Does this mean I have good CPU?
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Benchmarks do not show that kind of information.
Someguyfromhell said:
Benchmarks are for people, who like to showoff.
These numbers are not important at all, the real performance is what matters.
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Precisely. Benchmark score if bragged publicly is just like saying "my thing is bigger than yours". Just pure pathedic.
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Benchmarks do not show that kind of information.
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I meant on stability.
XperianPro said:
I meant on stability.
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Benchmark doesn't show stability...
Ok, yes, if you completed the test, your phone was stable for those few minutes.
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Benchmark doesn't show stability...
Ok, yes, if you completed the test, your phone was stable for those few minutes.
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Not few minutes,two hours.
oh, then the scores i got from benchmark is not really the true performance of my phone? thanks for the answers guys.
rerenznz said:
oh, then the scores i got from benchmark is not really the true performance of my phone? thanks for the answers guys.
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What? People still believe on 'benchmarks'? It's numbers for bragging.
And also if you want to test the stability of your phone, there's this stress-testing tool to see if your oc/uv/uc is stable enough for normal everyday use. Click me.
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What? People still believe on 'benchmarks'? It's numbers for bragging.
And also if you want to test the stability of your phone, there's this stress-testing tool to see if your oc/uv/uc is stable enough for normal everyday use. Click me.
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Stability tests can be dangerous. When your phone can't take that much power(overclocked CPU), it might just kill itself(due to temperature).
Basically, just play a HD game on your phone and you can put fun and stability test to one.
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Stability tests can be dangerous. When your phone can't take that much power(overclocked CPU), it might just kill itself(due to temperature).
Basically, just play a HD game on your phone and you can put fun and stability test to one.
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thanks for the info.. then my way in testing my phone is right.
is there no compatibility between rom and kerner even if they are for the phone model
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Right now the jump between 1ghz to 1.1ghz shows no real world benefit. I have a couple of questions:
1. Does overclocking to 1.1ghz effect the battery enought to see a difference?
2. Does undervolting save battery enough to see a difference?
3. If i have a custom kernal but still running at 1ghz, will the battery be the same/worse/better then runnning 1ghz on stock kernel
4. Does undervolting have any negative effects on performance
Thanks in Advance!! XDA RULES!!
The best type of experience, is 1st hand.
Why not try it out and make this thread a log of your results?
1username4thisforum said:
The best type of experience, is 1st hand.
Why not try it out and make this thread a log of your results?
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Not trying to be rude, but does not answer my question. Why go through the procedure when someone who has already done it or has experience with it is kind enough to post answers.
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Right now the jump between 1ghz to 1.1ghz shows no real world benefit. I have a couple of questions:
1. Does overclocking to 1.1ghz effect the battery enought to see a difference?
2. Does undervolting save battery enough to see a difference?
3. If i have a custom kernal but still running at 1ghz, will the battery be the same/worse/better then runnning 1ghz on stock kernel
4. Does undervolting have any negative effects on performance
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1 Yes it does, but the phone only uses that frequency when pushed to limits, so not much.
2 Yes, i believe it does.
3 I found faux kernel to drink my battery like water even oj stock clock. Edgan's didnt have that problem.
4 it may cause random reboots if ur UV lvls are beyond the phone's capabilities.
Ps1: hes got a point, all impressions are too personal, they dont translate to universal experience.
Ps2: the greatest use of OC on the atrix right now is the webtop, that really pushes all possible processing power.
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Viamonte said:
1 Yes it does, but the phone only uses that frequency when pushed to limits, so not much.
2 Yes, i believe it does.
3 I found faux kernel to drink my battery like water even oj stock clock. Edgan's didnt have that problem.
4 it may cause random reboots if ur UV lvls are beyond the phone's capabilities.
Ps1: hes got a point, all impressions are too personal, they dont translate to universal experience.
Ps2: the greatest use of OC on the atrix right now is the webtop, that really pushes all possible processing power.
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Thank You!
Hello,
I've had the phone rooted and the new cm7 (bad***), it all runs great I just wonder how some people are getting 5k Quad score while I am at the same 3.2 as it was on stock. I do have the same Kernel and everything when rooting and flashing went so smooth. Is there something I am missing.......
Thanks in advance.
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Hello,
I've had the phone rooted and the new cm7 (bad***), it all runs great I just wonder how some people are getting 5k Quad score while I am at the same 3.2 as it was on stock. I do have the same Kernel and everything when rooting and flashing went so smooth. Is there something I am missing.......
Thanks in advance.
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You can overclock it to 1.6 ghz in the CM settings.
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You can overclock it to 1.6 ghz in the CM settings.
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I did, than quadrant freezes while I'm running it. As in when I click submit score, it automatically goes back to the 1st 2d test and than force closes.
"sorry I left that out" :/
call me ignorant but do people STILL think that quadrant scores mean soemthing? why are people still comparing them???
Some people just want to stroke their epeen on the net.
And as to overclocking - not everyone will be able to overclock. There's a reason the device is only sold as 1.2 GHz - that's all it was tested to. Some might hit 1.4, some might hit 1.6, some might be right at the edge and only be able to do 1.2.
its not the quadrant score that matters. Its the idea of why it is different. All the devices have the same cpu have the same kernel and are rooted/flashed as stated in the forum (the same way). So why is mine doing so when clocked and running. I don't care what the score is. even 1200 score is enough for a phone. I didn't want to stroke anything. Its the matter of where the problem/case/scenario is coming from. As in, will it cause other problems and is it a problem at all. having had 5 android rooted/flashed devices I've never experienced it........... Why do people have to be ignorant and troll a forum is an issue I cant understand?
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Cm7 rooted love it
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its not the quadrant score that matters. Its the idea of why it is different.
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if you're asking why your quad score differs from other ppl's phone with the same setup, then you need to research more.
Not all phones are built the same. Just because they all have the same hardware and software, doesnt mean they'll all operate the same.
Alright so: found the fastest sensless ROM was slimrom. With quadrant I scored about 4k on funky kernel. Mostly all sense based ROM scored around that that's with funky. Now that I installed rage ROM aosp I'm getting laggier performance in games and about a 2- 3k quadrant benchmark score. Same with antutu benchmark. Lower scores then on sense. This dosnt make sense. I thought aosp ROMs (cm9) were so pose to be godly and around faster then she sense based. But lower benchmark and lower fps and lag in games this sucks. Still running funky. I noticed that system tuner was acting up and making it do all weird things so I cleared data and uninstalled rebooted and still got same scores. Force GPU was checked in all ROMs and kernel versions. And all benchmarks were dine with ball the same CPU setting. Maybe an app is acting up and robing performance? I'm not get any abnormal heat or batter drain.
Did you check the built in cpu manager within the settings? If you have an app to govern it, they will battle over control causing lag.
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Did you check the built in cpu manager within the settings? If you have an app to govern it, they will battle over control causing lag.
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Yes and I only use the built in one to control. I was reading that this is a common problem with cm9 and going from android v 4.0.4 to 4.0.3 might fix it. As in different cm9 ROM.
Told you this before and hate to sound like a broken record. Don't use System Tuner with my kernel, use Android Tuner or CPU Tweaker (these replaced System Tuner for a reason) on Sense roms.
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Told you this before and hate to sound like a broken record. Don't use System Tuner with my kernel, use Android Tuner or CPU Tweaker (these replaced System Tuner for a reason) on Sense roms.
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I don't touch any CPU settings with ST. None. Its pretty much installed for freezing apps task manager to see what's running and the widget. That's it. All CPU settings are dine through CM in the performance section.
NEVER NEVER NEVER turn force GPU rendering on (breaks MANY apps), thats the BIGGEST mistake MANY people do on these forums along with those so-called universal "build.prop" tweaks which do absolutely nothing. Try using the stock kernel first to see if its kernel related.
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NEVER NEVER NEVER turn force GPU rendering on (breaks MANY apps), thats the BIGGEST mistake MANY people do on these forums along with those so-called universal "build.prop" tweaks which do absolutely nothing. Try using the stock kernel first to see if its kernel related.
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I've tested both games mc3 and nova 3 and both run better with it enabled. I've also tried multiple versions of kernel. Found 1.4 gives good performance and battery I've read tho that it is is a cm9 problem and that its "known"??r idk how true that is tho. Its mainly just games that I'm lagging on.
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I've tested both games mc3 and nova 3 and both run better with it enabled. I've also tried multiple versions of kernel. Found 1.4 gives good performance and battery I've read tho that it is is a cm9 problem and that its "known"??r idk how true that is tho. Its mainly just games that I'm lagging on.
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I do not have GPU rendering enabled, on stock kernel and my games run smooth.
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I don't touch any CPU settings with ST. None. Its pretty much installed for freezing apps task manager to see what's running and the widget. That's it. All CPU settings are dine through CM in the performance section.
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You should probably uninstall ST reboot and see if that fixes your issues.
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You should probably uninstall ST reboot and see if that fixes your issues.
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Tried. Nothing.
Any ;new when Neo is gonna push out his CM10 build? I think aims just wait for that see if that dolv s the problem if not them back to slimrom.
It won't be released until the CM10 devs give the go ahead. But I don't think you'll like it any more than what you've been running.
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whens that gonna be?
cm10 is based off of JB though and from what i read, jb is crqzy smooth because vsync was disabled? idk but i read that its insanely smooth
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whens that gonna be?
cm10 is based off of JB though and from what i read, jb is crqzy smooth because vsync was disabled? idk but i read that its insanely smooth
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Triple buffering. You're thinking about triple buffering. We'll only get all those benefits with a full implementation of Project Butter, which is not automatic with jellybean. Right now, what we have is very uneven. Some things are smooth, some things are choppier. Getting a full ION implementation should smooth things out, but it still won't be Project Butter.
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Triple buffering. You're thinking about triple buffering. We'll only get all those benefits with a full implementation of Project Butter, which is not automatic with jellybean. Right now, what we have is very uneven. Some things are smooth, some things are choppier. Getting a full ION implementation should smooth things out, but it still won't be Project Butter.
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ohhh i see.... but like is that lag and fps drop just a problem with cm9, or is it just my phone?
what auntutu benchmark and quadrant scores do you get?
Quadrider10 said:
ohhh i see.... but like is that lag and fps drop just a problem with cm9, or is it just my phone?
what auntutu benchmark and quadrant scores do you get?
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8860 - Antutu
3030 - Quadrant
nolimit78 said:
8860 - Antutu
3030 - Quadrant
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what was your fps on both tests?
my antutu score was 8094 cpu and everything set to max speed.
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what was your fps on both tests?
my antutu score was 8094 cpu and everything set to max speed.
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Which part on each test? I'll have to do it again to check.. the test results don't tell me that info.
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Which part on each test? I'll have to do it again to check.. the test results don't tell me that info.
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in the knights test it tells you on bottom.... in sense roms i got about 59 in cm9 i get about 45-50. in both tests. somehting has to be wrong your getting a score of 800 better then me and running close to the same kernel and rom ish....
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in the knights test it tells you on bottom.... in sense roms i got about 59 in cm9 i get about 45-50. in both tests. somehting has to be wrong your getting a score of 800 better then me and running close to the same kernel and rom ish....
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56.74 FPS
hey have look at this screenshot..!
The person that provided me this screenshot said that he is developing a new kernel.
But then i saw the score not validated as it was red but then he said would release the kernel to select users and also he said he will be making a video on the kernel highlights.
But how did he attain such high scores???
Holy crap how is that even possible ? Who is this magician ? It doesn't look like overclock , CPU score is less important than our actual values (24000 for 1804 + 1440 MHz)
Need some explanation but wow , wait &see
ol I got almost 100k once on old guyver kernel + eu miui dev with kernel tweaks and heavy debloat on my 2GB ram model k3nzo
but thats the reason I dont trust this benchmark...
Ok so i contacted the guy named Riju and he said his work would take another week to compare before releasing it to the public.
He also mentions the support for nougat rooms and mm miui roms, quick charge 3.0,improved battery performance and better graphics with vulkan api stork
I got higher scores in 3D, CPU and RAM, BUT...UX? Wtf?
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I got higher scores in 3D, CPU and RAM, BUT...UX? Wtf?
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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I got ~88k with AICP Nougat + Radon (stock settings) + F2FS. Nothing more.
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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I am using new LineageOS unofficial (7.1.1), nothing special, stock radon settings(3.4), only set the governor to Impulse.
This totally insane!!
Antutu 6.0.1 could be easily used to have a good score I don't know how, but it's in link with the kernel... I could go to 120K with guyver kernel ... but it's bug is just with antutu 6.0.1
https://youtu.be/uOlOSbLp-J8?list=PLyjrOYSiemcuTICj-NBeqHHXqXuukSoIa
antutu is not a good way to judge device performance.
this score is complete bs... this version of antutu can be manipulated to have this high of a score. tell this kernel creator to run a new benchmark using the latest antutu version and see how it fares.
I flash Vulkan API and android N blobs for SD650, got 86k, if overclock might near 100k, but that's too high in the image.
AIDA screenshot for Vulkan API proof.
Lol no updates yet
Kernel release?
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does numbers really matter? i highly doubt there's a noticeable difference in performance between this guy's score and the typical benchmark score of our phones.
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does numbers really matter? i highly doubt there's a noticeable difference in performance between this guy's score and the typical benchmark score of our phones.
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Performance will feel better for sure. Battery life, system stability, product life and thermals will suffer though. Which do you find more important is the real question I guess.
but why do u want this score overclocking means higher risk of damage an just getting 20000 more wont do any wonders, apps incompatible will stay like that. It is a great phone which in my opinion dosent need overclocking atleast for now.
i only root unistall not usefull apps and i install the xtreme kernel for Pocophone
I love my phone after see your antutu result
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i only root unistall not usefull apps and i install the xtreme kernel for Pocophone
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If those devices use overclocked kernel, you can't even guess what will be their benchmark scores. So, let's not compare our device with the might of Mate 20 Pro or Rog Phone. They are way more powerful and advanced.
We are already happy of what we have in this price range and who cares what the benchmark score is.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
If those devices use overclocked kernel, you can't even guess what will be their benchmark scores. So, let's not compare our device with the might of Mate 20 Pro or Rog Phone. They are way more powerful and advanced.
We are already happy of what we have in this price range and who cares what the benchmark score is.
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It will be approximately the same because there's a hard limit on what the sd845 is capable of. Both those phones have the same processor at the end of the day.
Lol idk what the point is benchmarking an unstable kernel on a phone.
likely with fsync off and zram off going to ruin your phone
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Lol idk what the point is benchmarking an unstable kernel on a phone.
likely with fsync off and zram off going to ruin your phone
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In the benchmark of the OP has fsync on and zram doesn't ruin your phone if you disable it, until I know.
Antutu means nothing.
Smoothness and stability is the deal.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
If those devices use overclocked kernel, you can't even guess what will be their benchmark scores. So, let's not compare our device with the might of Mate 20 Pro or Rog Phone. They are way more powerful and advanced.
We are already happy of what we have in this price range and who cares what the benchmark score is.
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Get your facts straight before posting misinformation on this forum: Rog phone is also using the same 845 soc but have a little bit better thermal cooling system. maybe it will perform 4-7% better than poco f1 in best case.
Soc 845 soc is still fastest soc availble on market currently and the poco has 1 included
What can You do with this Tutu score? Does it feeds You? Or it's enlarger for Your tiny ..... ?
Can't quite understand those human beings trying to achieve some virtual score - it is only one side of coin. More important is general every day usability. Don't You think so?
Already getting 300084 Antutu Score on Miui 10 8.12.27. No root, nothing custom. Everything stock.
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Get your facts straight before posting misinformation on this forum: Rog phone is also using the same 845 soc but have a little bit better thermal cooling system. maybe it will perform 4-7% better than poco f1 in best case.
Soc 845 soc is still fastest soc availble on market currently and the poco has 1 included
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Are you blind or what? The OP showing screenshot of Poco with Extreme kernel that has overclocked CPU of 3.2GHz compared to ROG phone that has 2.8GHz CPU without overclocking. That's what I said. If ROG phone also uses an overclocked CPU with 3.2GHz or something like that, it will destroy his overclocked Poco.
Is it really necessary to jump on commenting (rather indulging others into a fight) without even reading properly? And you are nobody to instruct me what I should do or what I shouldn't. If you have written your comment in a friendly manner, I would have taken it easy.
It would be interesting to see custom ROMs scores too
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... Extreme kernel that has overclocked CPU of 3.2GHz ...
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Where it is written that this kernel can and applies overclock to the sdm845 cpu capable of reaching that frequency?
martinsskutans said:
What can You do with this Tutu score? Does it feeds You? Or it's enlarger for Your tiny ..... ?
Can't quite understand those human beings trying to achieve some virtual score - it is only one side of coin. More important is general every day usability. Don't You think so?
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It is a psychological effect where it increases the intrinsic value of the item thereby creating greater product satisfaction.
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Are you blind or what? The OP showing screenshot of Poco with Extreme kernel that has overclocked CPU of 3.2GHz compared to ROG phone that has 2.8GHz CPU without overclocking. That's what I said. If ROG phone also uses an overclocked CPU with 3.2GHz or something like that, it will destroy his overclocked Poco.
Is it really necessary to jump on commenting (rather indulging others into a fight) without even reading properly? And you are nobody to instruct me what I should do or what I shouldn't. If you have written your comment in a friendly manner, I would have taken it easy.
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Hey, 3.2ghz overclock by extreme kernal show some proof not just talk please,be rational not emotional ???
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Well said bro... Maturity shines
I'm on aosp since early days, around 220k antutu, and still happy with the roms around xda than memeUI. Trust me, antutu is almost meaningless now.