hey have look at this screenshot..!
The person that provided me this screenshot said that he is developing a new kernel.
But then i saw the score not validated as it was red but then he said would release the kernel to select users and also he said he will be making a video on the kernel highlights.
But how did he attain such high scores???
Holy crap how is that even possible ? Who is this magician ? It doesn't look like overclock , CPU score is less important than our actual values (24000 for 1804 + 1440 MHz)
Need some explanation but wow , wait &see
ol I got almost 100k once on old guyver kernel + eu miui dev with kernel tweaks and heavy debloat on my 2GB ram model k3nzo
but thats the reason I dont trust this benchmark...
Ok so i contacted the guy named Riju and he said his work would take another week to compare before releasing it to the public.
He also mentions the support for nougat rooms and mm miui roms, quick charge 3.0,improved battery performance and better graphics with vulkan api stork
I got higher scores in 3D, CPU and RAM, BUT...UX? Wtf?
Sebaskyclad said:
I got higher scores in 3D, CPU and RAM, BUT...UX? Wtf?
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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I got ~88k with AICP Nougat + Radon (stock settings) + F2FS. Nothing more.
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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I am using new LineageOS unofficial (7.1.1), nothing special, stock radon settings(3.4), only set the governor to Impulse.
This totally insane!!
Antutu 6.0.1 could be easily used to have a good score I don't know how, but it's in link with the kernel... I could go to 120K with guyver kernel ... but it's bug is just with antutu 6.0.1
https://youtu.be/uOlOSbLp-J8?list=PLyjrOYSiemcuTICj-NBeqHHXqXuukSoIa
antutu is not a good way to judge device performance.
this score is complete bs... this version of antutu can be manipulated to have this high of a score. tell this kernel creator to run a new benchmark using the latest antutu version and see how it fares.
I flash Vulkan API and android N blobs for SD650, got 86k, if overclock might near 100k, but that's too high in the image.
AIDA screenshot for Vulkan API proof.
Lol no updates yet
Kernel release?
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does numbers really matter? i highly doubt there's a noticeable difference in performance between this guy's score and the typical benchmark score of our phones.
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does numbers really matter? i highly doubt there's a noticeable difference in performance between this guy's score and the typical benchmark score of our phones.
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Performance will feel better for sure. Battery life, system stability, product life and thermals will suffer though. Which do you find more important is the real question I guess.
but why do u want this score overclocking means higher risk of damage an just getting 20000 more wont do any wonders, apps incompatible will stay like that. It is a great phone which in my opinion dosent need overclocking atleast for now.
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I've had a nose for newest member of SE Walkman family, this small phone tweaked turns out to be powerful and perspective yet very affordable phone! Ice-cream sandwich officially announced, great sound, solid camera, and , and... overclockable hardware geek index 10+ No more introduction, lets get to numbers...
1. CM 7.2 ROM with its own kernel, OC-ed at max 1.6 GHZ stable, Quadrant score of 2700!!
2. Stock 4.0.2.A.0.58 ROM vanilla, Quadrant score 1800.
3. Stock 4.0.2.A.0.58 ROM with RAGE KERNEL V2 (OC open to 2.0 GHZ) on my phone goes 1.9 GHZ stable making Quadrant score of 2550 , will try tonight combining Cyanogenmod ROM and RAGE KERNEL V2, it should penetrate 3k barrier , geek's wet dream
No kernel at the moment is UV (undervolting) capable.
Software: Voltage control, tnx to xan http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1107468
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, will try tonight combining Cyanogenmod ROM and RAGE KERNEL V2, it should penetrate 3k barrier
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did you tried that?
how do you get that kind of score in quadrant? I already OCed my wt19i to 1.9ghz and got only a score of 1800.. what tweaks did you applied?
Does benchmark score really matter that much to you guys? Its just numbers
Benchmarks are for people, who like to showoff.
These numbers are not important at all, the real performance is what matters.
since my galaxy mini with cm7 oc'd to 800mhz got higher score than my LWW, using quadrant advance, i quit believing those app....
sent from my Walkman
I did antutu test on CM7 on 2ghz.
Does this mean I have good CPU?
XperianPro said:
I did antutu test on CM7 on 2ghz.
Does this mean I have good CPU?
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Benchmarks do not show that kind of information.
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Benchmarks are for people, who like to showoff.
These numbers are not important at all, the real performance is what matters.
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Precisely. Benchmark score if bragged publicly is just like saying "my thing is bigger than yours". Just pure pathedic.
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Benchmarks do not show that kind of information.
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I meant on stability.
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I meant on stability.
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Benchmark doesn't show stability...
Ok, yes, if you completed the test, your phone was stable for those few minutes.
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Benchmark doesn't show stability...
Ok, yes, if you completed the test, your phone was stable for those few minutes.
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Not few minutes,two hours.
oh, then the scores i got from benchmark is not really the true performance of my phone? thanks for the answers guys.
rerenznz said:
oh, then the scores i got from benchmark is not really the true performance of my phone? thanks for the answers guys.
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What? People still believe on 'benchmarks'? It's numbers for bragging.
And also if you want to test the stability of your phone, there's this stress-testing tool to see if your oc/uv/uc is stable enough for normal everyday use. Click me.
Kira.Lawliet said:
What? People still believe on 'benchmarks'? It's numbers for bragging.
And also if you want to test the stability of your phone, there's this stress-testing tool to see if your oc/uv/uc is stable enough for normal everyday use. Click me.
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Stability tests can be dangerous. When your phone can't take that much power(overclocked CPU), it might just kill itself(due to temperature).
Basically, just play a HD game on your phone and you can put fun and stability test to one.
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Stability tests can be dangerous. When your phone can't take that much power(overclocked CPU), it might just kill itself(due to temperature).
Basically, just play a HD game on your phone and you can put fun and stability test to one.
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thanks for the info.. then my way in testing my phone is right.
is there no compatibility between rom and kerner even if they are for the phone model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Das_lYSODo
This is how Oneplus X performs on low-light conditions, is this software related?
Update: It seems to be hardware related, Oneplus X uses the AA version of the SD 801 which is the weakest version with a GPU performance that loses to phones 2-3 years old. I don't know if this is related to the camera but I already feel cheated as this CPU was marketed as "very similar" to the OPO, this explains why it stays miles away from the OPO and is beaten by phones like the Xiaomi mi 4 which is in the same prince range.
Bummer. I shoot useful video like that all the time.
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Bummer. I shoot useful video like that all the time.
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It's not only in low-light conditions, people complain that the phone has major lags when it's correcting the light mid-video on bright days.
rylark said:
It's not only in low-light conditions, people complain that the phone has major lags when it's correcting the light mid-video on bright days.
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I'm waiting to see what the professional reviews say before drawing conclusions. Even so, I still won't care because I normally don't use my phone to record meaningful HD video.
Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
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Oneplus X uses the AA version of the SD 801 which is the weakest version with a GPU performance that loses to phones 2-3 years old.
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Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
Znamir81 said:
Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
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I second this.
Znamir81 said:
Nonsense.
Like someone already said it's AA Pro version which is really good. Game performance and video lagging is software related for sure. Probably due to poor default governor.
OP works on fix already, but wait for some custom roms. This phone is going to fly.
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I second this.
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3rd!
People that blame the CPU for the current performance state of this device clearly don't know very much.
With the kernel blu_spark r25 I have way better performances on Fallout Shelter than with the stock kernel!
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With the kernel blu_spark r25 I have way better performances on Fallout Shelter than with the stock kernel!
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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I rooted my device without unlocking bootloader.
I than tampered a little bit with the cpu and got way better performance in games as well
I considered flashing that kernel, too, but didn't want the hassle of resetting my device for it (unlocking bootloader). I'll do that when more custom roms are available.
CPU GOVENOR: ONDEMAND
I/O Scheduler: Scheduler: cfq & Read-ahead: 2048kb
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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you wont get ota if you mess with system partition = rooting
but it doesnt matter if you unlock -> backup boot -> flash blu_spark
and if ota is available you restore boot and flash ota
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Yeah but you have to be rooted an unlocked which means you won't get any OTA.
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True, but by the time they fix with OTA we will probably have several custom ROMs.
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True, but by the time they fix with OTA we will probably have several custom ROMs.
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Hopefully the OTA will come next week.
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Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
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PRO just defines that its a SD801 and not SD800
since they both are MSM8974
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PRO just defines that its a SD801 and not SD800
since they both are MSM8974
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Not really sure. In all the charts I've seen online the "AA" model of the 801 has a 450mhz gpu. I've benched the X and it has the 578mhz and a clear PROAA designation. Did some tests with gaming too. Even running riptide gp2 with all the graphics settings on off/minimum, it stutters. That just shouldn't happen on ANY 800 series. Just hoping people don't underestimate what this phone "should" be capable of
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Not really sure. In all the charts I've seen online the "AA" model of the 801 has a 450mhz gpu. I've benched the X and it has the 578mhz and a clear PROAA designation. Did some tests with gaming too. Even running riptide gp2 with all the graphics settings on off/minimum, it stutters. That just shouldn't happen on ANY 800 series. Just hoping people don't underestimate what this phone "should" be capable of
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just because it displays the frequency doesnt mean the gpu will ever reach it
indeed the soc should have a better performance. i still guess its really bad software and they will fix it in future ota
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just because it displays the frequency doesnt mean the gpu will ever reach it
indeed the soc should have a better performance. i still guess its really bad software and they will fix it in future ota
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I this iteration of the 801 has the talent to be an absolute beast. Just need to have decent firmware to run it.
Apparently the Oxygen kernel code is so messy.
Comments on MSM8974ProAA gaming performance
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Just so you're aware, the SOC isn't simply the AA model. It's the MSM8974PROAA. The PRO means that it still has the high end 578mhz gpu. It should dominate current games, yet it doesnt. It's most definitely software related, and oneplus need to get this sorted. Stop misleading people, the phone is technically very powerful. It's Oxygen OS that's letting it down.
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I far as i know the MSM8974PROAA has indeed the high GPU freq. (578 MHz) but compared to AB and AC variants it has much lower ISP freq. and RAM Memory Interface freq. I've an OPX E1003 with Antutu 5.7 3D score of ~11000, whereas the Galaxy S5 scores ~13500, so 22 percent better in gaming according to Antutu. The total antutu score is sligtly lower than of the Galaxy S5, but it seems largely to have to do with 3D performance.
But I noticed using a Usage Monitor app that Asphalt 8 really doesn't push this phone to the max (CPU and GPU wise) ánd has a low framerate (might be app specific issue). With the same Usage Monitor I found out Antutu 5.7 3D pushes the GPU freq. to the max (578 MHz) but still scores significantly below Galaxy S5. Gaming NFS Most Wanted is okey, but GTA San Andreas has lower framerates than expected. I didn't expect the differences between 2 SnapDragon 801 variants to be this big!
i only root unistall not usefull apps and i install the xtreme kernel for Pocophone
I love my phone after see your antutu result
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i only root unistall not usefull apps and i install the xtreme kernel for Pocophone
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If those devices use overclocked kernel, you can't even guess what will be their benchmark scores. So, let's not compare our device with the might of Mate 20 Pro or Rog Phone. They are way more powerful and advanced.
We are already happy of what we have in this price range and who cares what the benchmark score is.
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If those devices use overclocked kernel, you can't even guess what will be their benchmark scores. So, let's not compare our device with the might of Mate 20 Pro or Rog Phone. They are way more powerful and advanced.
We are already happy of what we have in this price range and who cares what the benchmark score is.
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It will be approximately the same because there's a hard limit on what the sd845 is capable of. Both those phones have the same processor at the end of the day.
Lol idk what the point is benchmarking an unstable kernel on a phone.
likely with fsync off and zram off going to ruin your phone
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Lol idk what the point is benchmarking an unstable kernel on a phone.
likely with fsync off and zram off going to ruin your phone
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In the benchmark of the OP has fsync on and zram doesn't ruin your phone if you disable it, until I know.
Antutu means nothing.
Smoothness and stability is the deal.
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If those devices use overclocked kernel, you can't even guess what will be their benchmark scores. So, let's not compare our device with the might of Mate 20 Pro or Rog Phone. They are way more powerful and advanced.
We are already happy of what we have in this price range and who cares what the benchmark score is.
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Get your facts straight before posting misinformation on this forum: Rog phone is also using the same 845 soc but have a little bit better thermal cooling system. maybe it will perform 4-7% better than poco f1 in best case.
Soc 845 soc is still fastest soc availble on market currently and the poco has 1 included
What can You do with this Tutu score? Does it feeds You? Or it's enlarger for Your tiny ..... ?
Can't quite understand those human beings trying to achieve some virtual score - it is only one side of coin. More important is general every day usability. Don't You think so?
Already getting 300084 Antutu Score on Miui 10 8.12.27. No root, nothing custom. Everything stock.
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Get your facts straight before posting misinformation on this forum: Rog phone is also using the same 845 soc but have a little bit better thermal cooling system. maybe it will perform 4-7% better than poco f1 in best case.
Soc 845 soc is still fastest soc availble on market currently and the poco has 1 included
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Are you blind or what? The OP showing screenshot of Poco with Extreme kernel that has overclocked CPU of 3.2GHz compared to ROG phone that has 2.8GHz CPU without overclocking. That's what I said. If ROG phone also uses an overclocked CPU with 3.2GHz or something like that, it will destroy his overclocked Poco.
Is it really necessary to jump on commenting (rather indulging others into a fight) without even reading properly? And you are nobody to instruct me what I should do or what I shouldn't. If you have written your comment in a friendly manner, I would have taken it easy.
It would be interesting to see custom ROMs scores too
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... Extreme kernel that has overclocked CPU of 3.2GHz ...
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Where it is written that this kernel can and applies overclock to the sdm845 cpu capable of reaching that frequency?
martinsskutans said:
What can You do with this Tutu score? Does it feeds You? Or it's enlarger for Your tiny ..... ?
Can't quite understand those human beings trying to achieve some virtual score - it is only one side of coin. More important is general every day usability. Don't You think so?
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It is a psychological effect where it increases the intrinsic value of the item thereby creating greater product satisfaction.
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Are you blind or what? The OP showing screenshot of Poco with Extreme kernel that has overclocked CPU of 3.2GHz compared to ROG phone that has 2.8GHz CPU without overclocking. That's what I said. If ROG phone also uses an overclocked CPU with 3.2GHz or something like that, it will destroy his overclocked Poco.
Is it really necessary to jump on commenting (rather indulging others into a fight) without even reading properly? And you are nobody to instruct me what I should do or what I shouldn't. If you have written your comment in a friendly manner, I would have taken it easy.
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Hey, 3.2ghz overclock by extreme kernal show some proof not just talk please,be rational not emotional ???
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Well said bro... Maturity shines
I'm on aosp since early days, around 220k antutu, and still happy with the roms around xda than memeUI. Trust me, antutu is almost meaningless now.
Can anyone port blackshark miui rom ( stable / beta ) for Poco f1
Reason - Blackshark is highly optimised for gaming and there must be some serious optimisations in terms of performance too on the software side
Poco scores like 300K on Antutu
But i have seen many a times its 3Dmark scores are way beyond low
Links provided below -
Xiaomi Black Shark Review
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Xiaomi+Black+Shark+review
Xiaomi Pocophone F1 Review
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Xiaomi+Pocophone+F1+review
No matter what tweak you do yours scores never gonna reach that level
Why ? I know benchmarks are just numbers it doesn't matter when you have fluidity performance
But the 3D scores test are really low and i have noticed some serious frame drops in games like mc5 ( MODERN COMBAT 5 )
I hope someone will look into it and make available for such
I been searching for the same thing. Hope someone comes up with it
I wonder how the note 9 performs so high in 3d mark? Have you seen the scores?
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
Shinichi Kudo said:
I wonder how the note 9 performs so high in 3d mark? Have you seen the scores?
https://benchmarks.ul.com/hardware/phone/Samsung+Galaxy+Note+9+(SDM845)+review
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M curious too
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M curious too
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Not just note9, all the flagships from samsung this year show extraordinary performance on 3dmark which is a more renowned benchmark in the gaming world for both mobile and desktops.
Although these are way bad in Antutu where the Chinese devices have taken up the top spots.
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Not just note9, all the flagships from samsung this year show extraordinary performance on 3dmark which is a more renowned benchmark in the gaming world for both mobile and desktops.
Although these are way bad in Antutu where the Chinese devices have taken up the top spots.
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Maybe they are being paid AFUC gpu used in Exynos is not that powerful compared to Adreno by a huge margin
This could be a nice ideea, a rom made ONLY for gaming performance (with the best gaming optimisations, latest GPU drivers, mods etc)
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Maybe they are being paid AFUC gpu used in Exynos is not that powerful compared to Adreno by a huge margin
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Exactly!!! That's why the Exynos variants have about 1k less scores as compared to the 845 variants.
I honestly don't see the point. It will still share the same drivers and that's where the problem lays. Let's take the GameCube/Wii emulator called Dolphin, it runs better on the Nvidia Shield TV than it does on any phone even though the SOC is older on the Nvidia Shield TV because the drivers are far better than what you find on a Snapdragon device
Stock Rom Score Update...
Nope...guess what scores I have got on stock EU rom 8.12.27...
No need to guess see the screenshot...
Completely in sync with the other phones... including the Black Shark...and I repeat I am on stock Rom with the stock kenel.
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Nope...guess what scores I have got on stock EU rom 8.12.27...
No need to guess see the screenshot...
Completely in sync with the other phones... including the Black Shark...and I repeat I am on stock Rom with the stock kenel.
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Thats with los latest
Shinichi Kudo said:
Not just note9, all the flagships from samsung this year show extraordinary performance on 3dmark which is a more renowned benchmark in the gaming world for both mobile and desktops.
Although these are way bad in Antutu where the Chinese devices have taken up the top spots.
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We all know how benchmark score works. If I pay some handsome amount for my 5 years old Lumia 1320, Antutu will show insane score for that device as well.:laugh:
Why does every kermal I flash slow the CPU down I've tried at least six with miui and linegae all of them do the same thing. The geekbench scores are rediculous on all of them. I'd their anyway to set them to maximum clock speeds on the GPU and CPU. I don't care about battery draining etc.
I've also tried kermal auditor and fk manager both dot he same thing slower clock speeds.
Hm... I guess its because most users wanted a stable usage.. optimal performance, with a bit more longer usage..
And according to sir Francisco Franco.. with his franco kernel.. he explained that underclocking to some specific points.. doesnt affect performance.. only the app starting.. he mentioned apps dont really need to run at max speed..
Anyways.. if you want more power.
Try using MALAKAS KERNEL, INSTALL all of the tweaks mentioned together, in his post..
Or download EXTREME KERNEL..
BUT I GUESS.. MALAKAS KERNEL WILL suite you..
It even got me a wooping above 300k in antutu.. on par with my kirin 980 mate 20 x..??
And dont forget to install
Unthermal, lkt and force gpu render magisk modules.. and build prop VULKAN tweaks .. all present in MALAKAS KERNEL THREAD
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Hm... I guess its because most users wanted a stable usage.. optimal performance, with a bit more longer usage..
And according to sir Francisco Franco.. with his franco kernel.. he explained that underclocking to some specific points.. doesnt affect performance.. only the app starting.. he mentioned apps dont really need to run at max speed..
Anyways.. if you want more power.
Try using MALAKAS KERNEL, INSTALL all of the tweaks mentioned together, in his post..
Or download EXTREME KERNEL..
BUT I GUESS.. MALAKAS KERNEL WILL suite you..
It even got me a wooping above 300k in antutu.. on par with my kirin 980 mate 20 x..
And dont forget to install
Unthermal, lkt and force gpu render magisk modules.. and build prop VULKAN tweaks .. all present in MALAKAS KERNEL THREAD
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That Antutu Score actually bothers me. I just installed a custom pixel rom. When I tried going for Antutu score like 2 days ago, it was at 334,485 (CPU 98.2K, GPU 138.5K, MEM 54K, UX 43.6K). Does it mean my rig is being 'overclocked'? Or rooting the device means tampering with the score result?
No gravity kernal overclocks 3.03ghz cpu