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Im good with porting roms, so im not exactly asking anyone to do anything, just asking for some advice/help.
IF i were to port a Rom for the inspire or desire, with gingersense, miui, whatever, would the 4g work? Thats all i want to know. I can replace the icons that make it say 4g rather than 3g no problem but i need to know if porting would be easy while keeping the 4g radio working.
Any help would be appreciated
I bet it would be easy. The 4g capability is just another driver if I'm not mistaken. But we really won't know till someone tries it. Id love to see some ports though its nice to see you here trying to get involved. Thank you and I'm here if you need anything. Oh and id go on Twitter and ask @teamandirc about thunderbolt they know a lot more then most.
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Bump cause I really wanna see this happen. But if I remember correctly it took cyanogen and co some time to get Wimax working on the evo
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I bet it would be easy. The 4g capability is just another driver if I'm not mistaken. But we really won't know till someone tries it. Id love to see some ports though its nice to see you here trying to get involved. Thank you and I'm here if you need anything. Oh and id go on Twitter and ask @teamandirc about thunderbolt they know a lot more then most.
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Thanks for the support i dont have my tbolt yet but i will sometime this week and i just wanted to get down on the whole rooting scene
Wimax is a whole different idea then lte. Cm has lte already partial working. It's just not routing right.
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The only problem with GingerSense is that GB + the newer Sense will be available sometime in the next two months (or less), so we'll be seeing an official release with new features that a mere Sense 2.0 + AOSP GB combo cooked by an independent developer will lack.
I don't think we will see an update till June. HTC usually is a little slow. No harm is trying
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You probably already know this but.....The Sensation has like 1000 roms its ridiculous, but we have the same screen with the same size and resolution, only thing that would be diffrent is BT radio right? Because I just peaked at the Sensation development and I died a little
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You probably already know this but.....The Sensation has like 1000 roms its ridiculous, but we have the same screen with the same size and resolution, only thing that would be diffrent is BT radio right? Because I just peaked at the Sensation development and I died a little
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I have been dying for a while. It must be very hard a lot of the roms want the phone to be S-offed but even then...IDK Its ridiculous the amount of roms i mean i kinda just want a sensation to play with you know?
The only similar parts in both devices are the screens (which are made my different manufactures) but that doesn't matter. its not hard to port a rom just because of screen differences, that's never been a problem. its the internals, the only part that is similar is the cpu/gpu which doesn't really matter either. there is a lot of differences. much different wifi as well
I think there is a thread covering this?
i dont have either of the phones... but i want the amaze because it is better than the sensation 4g, but i want the sensation 4g because of its wide variety or roms.
tough decisions!!!
but yeah roms arent hard to port... theres really only a couple things that you need to make a rom from another device boot on a different device. (i will let the more knowledgeable users take it from here)
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i dont have either of the phones... but i want the amaze because it is better than the sensation 4g, but i want the sensation 4g because of its wide variety or roms.
tough decisions!!!
but yeah roms arent hard to port... theres really only a couple things that you need to make a rom from another device boot on a different device. (i will let the more knowledgeable users take it from here)
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you answered your question yourself "the amaze is a better device". doesn't matter how much better the development is. that's like saying I should get the g1 rather than the amaze because the development is amazing there lol
roms can be really hard to port if you don't have the right information (drivers, radio, etc). yeah, im sure it can be easy to port and boot up but no luck getting it stable so its pointless
Mabey if someone made a tool that was specific for porting sensation roms to the amaze, that would be sexy
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But yea getting it stable is hard, and is the most challenging thing, we have ICS booted and we almost got Sense 4 booted, but they can't be daily drivers so no point in that right now
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But yea getting it stable is hard, and is the most challenging thing, we have ICS booted and we almost got Sense 4 booted, but they can't be daily drivers so no point in that right now
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That depends how desperate you are lol, i just might sacrifice wifi and data gps and everything else that doesn't work for Sense 4 look. Going back to the original days
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That depends how desperate you are lol, i just might sacrifice wifi and data gps and everything else that doesn't work for Sense 4 look. Going back to the original days
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I would sacrifice everything BUT wifi pretty much. that's all I run on
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I would sacrifice everything BUT wifi pretty much. that's all I run on
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True, but I need the camera also if I need to capture something, but BT, and data I could live without
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this has been discussed previously, the sensation is a completely different phone on the inside...EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PHONE is different...porting from sensation to amaze is not even a good ide, they don't use the same hardware at all, ergo they don't use the same drivers, kernel, modules etc....HTC Vivid is the closest phone you will find to the amaze.
It's really not that hard guys, I'm working on one now actually, here's some information on how to do it, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224311, and theres also dsixda kitchen which make it even easier
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It's really not that hard guys, I'm working on one now actually, here's some information on how to do it, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224311, and theres also dsixda kitchen which make it even easier
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I knew you could do something like this but doing that is never going to result in a stable Rom
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Actually, mines running really smooth so far, and I am no dev, and don't know a thing about code or programming. I have learned everything from google and xda
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Actually, mines running really smooth so far, and I am no dev, and don't know a thing about code or programming. I have learned everything from google and xda
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What Rom Did you port that's running "Really Smooth"?
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What Rom Did you port that's running "Really Smooth"?
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Wow really, you ask a question, then try someone when they give you an answer, I can see why devs are leaving this place. And what makes you an expert, have you tried, I have everything but WiFi working, if I get that working and get rights to post a port of it, I will
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Wow really, you ask a question, then try someone when they give you an answer, I can see why devs are leaving this place
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Wow really? Thin skin? The guy just asked what ROM you have running smooth... A question you couldn't answer apparently.
If no devs were here to begin with, what do you mean devs are leaving? Are you talking about the ONE dev that was BANNED? Lol. Good luck running your ported ROM on the Amaze... Hope u have a good Kernel guy
In the mean time, man up and thicken that skin. It's not that serious
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I long for the MIUI that I had when I had the Sensation
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Wow really? Thin skin? The guy just asked what ROM you have running smooth... A question you couldn't answer apparently.
If no devs were here to begin with, what do you mean devs are leaving? Are you talking about the ONE dev that was BANNED? Lol. Good luck running your ported ROM on the Amaze... Hope u have a good Kernel guy
In the mean time, man up and thicken that skin. It's not that serious
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Thin skin, at least I have the balls to try, which is more than I see from most people here that just want to complain or ask question without doing there home work first. As for our one dev, that's false, we had others, but stupidity ran them off
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Wow really, you ask a question, then try someone when they give you an answer, I can see why devs are leaving this place. And what makes you an expert, have you tried, I have everything but WiFi working, if I get that working and get rights to post a port of it, I will
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dude calm down, i was just asking what rom you ported that's running smooth, no one has really successively ported a rom to the amaze without it missing something
Im Not an expert thats why i asked
If cm9 is on the touch pad which uses the snapdragon just as we do, and we have a ics leak why can't we have cm9 yet? I know when I had my epic 4g touch like a day after the samsung ics leak dropped someone built a cm9 rom... Please don't flame. I'm mearely asking a question in the q & a thread... Thanks!
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I'm guessing it's the lack of kernel source.
But they don't have kernel source for ics on the epic 4g touch either... They built a tweaked Gingerbread kernel to run cm9. And I couldn't tell a difference it ran a amazingly
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http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/2012/04/cm9-alpha3-now-available-for-epic-4g.html?m=1
If you scroll down to the news section it says they're still working on getting a working kernel source... The only problem I had seen from not having one was no over clicking or what not.
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It is going to be awsome when there is CM9+spen support for the Note.
what is cm9
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thats funny stuff.........
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Hmmm this Google thing could answer 90% of the posts in this forum recently. GENIUS!!
So no guessesbon why we don't have one?
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I was thinking that it was the lack of kernel source, but I don't know based on the modified GB kernel post. CM9 would be awesome though. I like to keep things as stock and clean as possible. I don't even put aftermarket parts on my car LOL.
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I was thinking that it was the lack of kernel source, but I don't know based on the modified GB kernel post. CM9 would be awesome though. I like to keep things as stock and clean as possible. I don't even put aftermarket parts on my car LOL.
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Lol you use it how it was meant to be.... I wish we had devs like back on the epic they made everything happen.
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Lol you use it how it was meant to be.... I wish we had devs like back on the epic they made everything happen.
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you know what devs we need here , the devs from the htc leo/hd2 that took a windows mobile phone and turned it into a development phone that could run any 5 OS like a champ, I had CM9 on my hd2 for 2 months before I got my Note and I ran AOSP ICS prior to that for a month and it's smooth as hell. We never had any kind of actual source for anything for it, actually devs were porting everything from the nexus one/nexus s/sensation/evo/incredible/desire hd and made it work , hacking all kinds of kernels , so yeah there were issues when a new port would come out like camera not working(most common issue) but never the less it always came around, now our biggest downfall is the fact that samsung decided to use two different processors with the two versions of the note, if they only would have used the same processor it would have definitely be a different ball game, it would be one forum and all the devs for the n7000 and the i717 would be working together and we would be using cm9 from the great dev imilka from the hd2 forum.
Agreed. I wish I knew how to dev. On the original evo we had great devs also... These devs just rather sit around and wait for the easy way I guess. Idk.
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You think it's so easy then you post some work.
QFT!!!!!
I just stated my opinion ... Oh well!
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well I'm no dev but I'm working at trying to make the necessary changes and hopefully get imilka's cm9 booting up in our notes, but I'm confident that with the help from imilka I can get it to boot and hopefully have a working cm9 soon.
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Please keep that attitude to yourself, so as to not annoy the devs who do things for everyone, INCLUDING YOU for ....
A wise man once said: "Don't defecate where you masticate."
I'm genuinely curious if this big kernel source drop is going to be beneficial to us or not. I've heard two sides to the story:
1. "HTC b trollin' man, they drop source and release a new kernel..."
2. Devs can use the old kernel and fix the issues that HTC fixed, along with the other issues AOSP ROMs were having like sound and MMS.
I have no idea what's going on, and I'm curious whether I should expect things to blow up here soon, or if this kernel source has been essentially useless. I'm generally unaware of how long it takes devs to pick apart the kernel code and utilize it. Any input from those with knowledge on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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PsiPhiDan said:
I'm genuinely curious if this big kernel source drop is going to be beneficial to us or not. I've heard two sides to the story:
1. "HTC b trollin' man, they drop source and release a new kernel..."
2. Devs can use the old kernel and fix the issues that HTC fixed, along with the other issues AOSP ROMs were having like sound and MMS.
I have no idea what's going on, and I'm curious whether I should expect things to blow up here soon, or if this kernel source has been essentially useless. I'm generally unaware of how long it takes devs to pick apart the kernel code and utilize it. Any input from those with knowledge on this topic would be greatly appreciated.
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+1
Both are correct. It doesn't really help sense based Roms because sense kernels are going to be newer than source.
However, aosp roms can now be fully functional. Aosp is what many people on here care about and are waiting for.
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It's not useless for aosp, the problem is nobody is really working too much on aosp roms. There is a cm and MIUI port but they are a ways off and only so much one person can do..
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It's not useless for aosp, the problem is nobody is really working too much on aosp roms. There is a cm and MIUI port but they are a ways off and only so much one person can do..
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This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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It still might, but I think I'm still somewhat jaded by the og evo and the support it had. The 3D never really had much, and it's looking like the lte is gonna be around the same.
I do think we'll eventually get some aosp goodness, just isn't hopping like I hoped it would be. I don't mean this as a slight to the devs we do have because they are great, all of them.
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PsiPhiDan said:
This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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It's only been a little over a month since the phone first came out. Give more people time to transition and we should start to see more activity. It isn't that bad so far, but most development is based around Sense because no one wants to wrestle with AOSP. Once they get AOSP stuff finished though, we'll be golden.
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It's only been a little over a month since the phone first came out. Give more people time to transition and we should start to see more activity. It isn't that bad so far, but most development is based around Sense because no one wants to wrestle with AOSP. Once they get AOSP stuff finished though, we'll be golden.
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Yeah, I'm sure that's true. In my head, I figured everyone would be working to get to that point as quick as possible once kernel source was released. Like a giant team project, haha. Instead, it appears that only a select few are tackling it. Even custom kernels seem to be a rare mention. Oh well, I'll continue to enjoy the Sense ROMs as much as I can until someone cracks the AOSP code.
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Yeah, I'm sure that's true. In my head, I figured everyone would be working to get to that point as quick as possible once kernel source was released. Like a giant team project, haha. Instead, it appears that only a select few are tackling it. Even custom kernels seem to be a rare mention. Oh well, I'll continue to enjoy the Sense ROMs as much as I can until someone cracks the AOSP code.
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We just need the support of the big guys. For some reason it feels like most of the big time devs haven't moved on to this phone yet, or went with Samsung instead. I know that Preludedrew is working on JB for our phone, I talked to him about it yesterday on Gtalk. Deck mentioned in IRC that he was working on it as well, I believe.
The kernel developers are hiding so far, probably because we don't have the big guys working for us yet. I'd love to see a Tiamat kernel, even if I'm personally not a fan of custom kernels.
Kernel.org is also down, so that's slowing things up for everyone.
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Kernel.org is also down, so that's slowing things up for everyone.
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I've been seeing this all over, but I can access the site and perform downloads just fine.
There's is (are) custom kernels out
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I'm actually happy with the stock kernel. It has a great balance of performance and battery life.Then again I prefer my kernels to be rock solid, as opposed to cutting edge with random reboots.
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I'm actually happy with the stock kernel. It has a great balance of performance and battery life.Then again I prefer my kernels to be rock solid, as opposed to cutting edge with random reboots.
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I always used custom kernels with EVO 4G and remember zero reboots due to kernel issues . Easy overclocking and underclocking, volume mods, performance increases while still improving battery life... Yes please!
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PsiPhiDan said:
This makes me sad. Maybe the EVO won't have the development I pictured it having after all. I'm not giving up hope for the future, but if you're correct in your assertion, that is saddening.
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So far my experience with HTC phones have been a very disappointing one. Coming from the OG Epic, all I've kept hearing was how awesome the development for the OG EVO was. So of course when the EVO 3d came out it was my phone of choice over the Epic Touch. That was disappointment number one. Then when the LTE came out, I've noticed all the OG EVO developers and owners was all excited about this phone, so i decided to give HTC another chance. So for I've been more disappointed then at any point. The lack of ROMS, the pitifully performance of sense 4 and HTC's new stance on locking bootloader and sneaky updates with new Hboots was the last straw. What phone will I get next? Im not sure, but it won't be a HTC.
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So far my experience with HTC phones have been a very disappointing one. Coming from the OG Epic, all I've kept hearing was how awesome the development for the OG EVO was. So of course when the EVO 3d came out it was my phone of choice over the Epic Touch. That was disappointment number one. Then when the LTE came out, I've noticed all the OG EVO developers and owners was all excited about this phone, so i decided to give HTC another chance. So for I've been more disappointed then at any point. The lack of ROMS, the pitifully performance of sense 4 and HTC's new stance on locking bootloader and sneaky updates with new Hboots was the last straw. What phone will I get next? Im not sure, but it won't be a HTC.
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We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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I know what he means about ROMs... They're all more or less the same so far. Modified stock is great, but not what many are after when they think of development being great.
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We've had plenty of roms for this phone. Development has flown. Idk what your complaining about.
HTC has always locked the bootloader and always updated hboot to close root loopholes. This is nothing new.
This is all par for the course. You should know this having owned the 3d. Settle down my man
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+1 on that. Seems like the other guy isn't to bright seeing as this phone is only a little over a month old
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I know what he means about ROMs... They're all more or less the same so far. Modified stock is great, but not what many are after when they think of development being great.
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And aosp is in the works and has been since shortly after launch. These things take time.
If you check out the aosp threads, they all mention ongoing development.
We JUST got kernel source. Devs have day jobs, they do this in their free time
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And aosp is in the works and has been since shortly after launch. These things take time.
If you check out the aosp threads, they all mention ongoing development.
We JUST got kernel source. Devs have day jobs, they do this in their free time
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Oh I know that, and I no way meant to say the devs aren't doing great work. I just wanted to explain why he said there were not a lot of ROMs right now. I understand that statement, although there is plenty of reason for why that is.
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To all the viper team (Vin [yes we had a rough start but my ignorance got the best of me] and viperboy), you two have gone above and beyond what anyone probably thought was possible on the evo 4g lte.
Many others are there as well (bigdaddy, CPT TB, ThickLizard, and many others and I'll modify this after some sleep, but dam, you guys are the bomb and I know we will lose you in the future.
So thank you for this golden rom!
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That's weird, I was thinking of doing something similar. Viperboys zeal for developing and sharing was never more evident than the first week the One was released, and the development forum was thread after thread by viperboy.
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That's weird, I was thinking of doing something similar. Viperboys zeal for developing and sharing was never more evident than the first week the One was released, and the development forum was thread after thread by viperboy.
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Team Venom (aa well as many others on this forum, I apologize for anyone whom I'm sure I excluded, there's just too many great developers and contributors here) should be called Team Android. IMO, they are better than Google, and get paid primarily by donations.
I wish there was a list of main contributors.
If you are one, please list yourself here. Even the smallest contributions you make are the difference between content and awesome!
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Yes, I am. Vince, viper, zarboz, deck etc. But I think that's already reflected in the respective threads (I mean, anybodys donations).
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Yes, I am. Vince, viper, zarboz, deck etc. But I think that's already reflected in the respective threads (I mean, anybodys donations).
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See I haven't heard of a few of these people. And I personally don't have much free time to get on the computer so this primarily is my computer.
Anyway, we need a developer's list and donation thread.
On an off note, sure wish Vin and Viper boy would get together and put up a sense 5 viper rom, even if it was just beta. I know they got their plate full though.
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See I haven't heard of a few of these people. And I personally don't have much free time to get on the computer so this primarily is my computer.
Anyway, we need a developer's list and donation thread.
On an off note, sure wish Vin and Viper boy would get together and put up a sense 5 viper rom, even if it was just beta. I know they got their plate full though.
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Let me begin with a thanks for the message behind this thread.
As for the sense 5 rom... I will begin working on the sense 5 version of viper4g, when sprint/htc gives us an official update (or when it's leaked). This is due to not wanting to spend hours modifying the code to work with an inherently flawed port as my base, just to have to scrap it when the time comes to work with official files for this device.
I know it's tough to choose between the latest and greatest (sense 5) or your favorite rom that is still based on sense 4+, but I'd assume that most other devs feel the same in regards to building from an ruu, or at least from a rom base that is a product of an official ruu for this (or their respective) device.
Only reason I am anxious I am hoping sense 5 will free up some ram
Thanks!
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