I've looked for weeks and I'm still unsure about this. I can run a custom ROM being unlocked. However, can I flash a radio? or do I need to be S-off? My old EVO allowed me to do an "all in one" zip that would include ROM, radio, PRI, PRL etc. When I got my Sprint EVO LTE a couple of weeks ago, and after reading XDA forums for hours, I was pleased to know my Hboot is 1.12. It seems you can do more with this version than any other.
Thanks for this clarification.
It's easy enough to get s-off if u follow instructions. Be easier if u did, and there are people who would love to be in your shoes to have s-off on this phone.
I'm not sure about radios. I think u need to be s-off to flash just a radio. And if u stay S-ON upgrading thru RUU's will put u on perma-S-ON hboot. Or permanent until someone can come up with an exploit. And that isn't looking too promising atm.
I know 1.12 is more slack than 1.15&1.19, when S-ON, but might as well s-off while u can. Right?
Anthonicia said:
It's easy enough to get s-off if u follow instructions. Be easier if u did, and there are people who would love to be in your shoes to have s-off on this phone.
I'm not sure about radios. I think u need to be s-off to flash just a radio. And if u stay S-ON upgrading thru RUU's will put u on perma-S-ON hboot. Or permanent until someone can come up with an exploit. And that isn't looking too promising atm.
I know 1.12 is more slack than 1.15&1.19, when S-ON, but might as well s-off while u can. Right?
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what he said ^^^^^^
You are correct. You cannot flash radios if you are s-on.
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You can flash radios only in recovery with s-on.
Look in this tread by Captaintrowback.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?13192-RADIOS-Jewel-Radio-Collection-LATEST-1-12-11-0809
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Hi huys, i need to turn back to gingerbread, and then get ota ics, now i have last firmware and hboot. How i can do it? The ruu gb don't work cause hboot version. Thanks.
Are you s-on or s-off? If s-off, flash a lower hboot then try the ruu. If you are s-on, get s-off.
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If i have bootloader unlocked i can't use pgm86img.zip
If you are s-off you can, s-on you can't. Which is why I recommended s-off (actually it might be required to downgrade your hboot).
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If you are s-off you can, s-on you can't. Which is why I recommended s-off (actually it might be required to downgrade your hboot).
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So i need to use junoptobear hboot? unlocked + s-off
i'm s-off unclocked with junoptobear and i can't run ruu -.- i have sayed it...
Working with pgm86img.zip **
Love it! Don't know why it worked. anyway thanks!!!!!
Last question, now i have older hboot, how i can flash ics without using pgm86img.zip of ruu ics? That will upgrade my hboot.
EDIT: cthis topic can be closed
I have Hboot 1.15, Fresh EVO OS. And used the Regaw Autoroot following the OTA Update. I heard you can do this using fastboot or HTCdev, but I'm not sure how to do this... And could not find any answers (My concern is that the new FRESH updates use the new radios, and I updated to it, but can't flash the new radios)
If this has already been answered I apologize, but I couldn't find it.
Thank you for the help!
Dude there's threads all over the forum about this issue. Just spend 2minutes looking and you'll be all set
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You can't update radios if you are s-on hboot 1.15. Your only option to update the radios is to relock and take the ota or install the new ruu. Then unlock again, install twrp, and then install your favorite rom. As many will state, never take the ota because you may loose ability to get s-off in the future. This may be true, but there is no s-off solution for your hboot anyway so you might as well bite the bullet now and live in the present instead of waiting for something that may never happen in the future.
Interesting. All right Thanks for your help. And as for there being threads "all over" I was getting conflicting reports, since I saw on one page where it was possible to flash using HTCdev with S-on, but there was no link or instructions given.
To address ur main concern, there is no need to update your radios. If you want to run a rom that is based off the latest update all u need to do is make sure your kernel matches the kernel in the rom. You can update your kernel with Flash img GUI, found in the app store. Just download the rom u want open flash img GUI select the rom and choose to flash kernel img. Once complete, wipe and flash rom. Njoy!
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eddy0090 said:
To address ur main concern, there is no need to update your radios. If you want to run a rom that is based off the latest update all u need to do is make sure your kernel matches the kernel in the rom. You can update your kernel with Flash img GUI, found in the app store. Just download the rom u want open flash img GUI select the rom and choose to flash kernel img. Once complete, wipe and flash rom. Njoy!
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I would HIGHLY suggest against flash gui if you haven't properly learned to fast boot flash it
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Rxpert said:
I would HIGHLY suggest against flash gui if you haven't properly learned to fast boot flash it
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Then how do i proceed to relock my bootloader if I am 1.5 so i can receive the OTA?
Fastboot OEM lock
This stuff is in my guide, I wish more people would actually read it lol
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Interesting. All right Thanks for your help. And as for there being threads "all over" I was getting conflicting reports, since I saw on one page where it was possible to flash using HTCdev with S-on, but there was no link or instructions given.
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Yup. Sorry about my response. I reread it and it does sound a harsh to me now. Anyways you got the info you need so good luck with your phone and sorry again
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Fastboot OEM lock
This stuff is in my guide, I wish more people would actually read it lol
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LOL - I've never seen you guide before, I will definetly open it print it/ and read it. It is appreciated.:highfive::good:
I'd also suggest against taking the ota, but that's just me.
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S-on hboot 1.12
Ok, so I'm rooted, s-on with hboot 1.12. I was able to do the firmware update and update the radios. I've read like crazy and I'm not seeing anywhere I can update the PRI without s-off. Is this correct? One thread said I can flash anything since I'm hboot 1.12 so I'm confused.
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Ok, so I'm rooted, s-on with hboot 1.12. I was able to do the firmware update and update the radios. I've read like crazy and I'm not seeing anywhere I can update the PRI without s-off. Is this correct? One thread said I can flash anything since I'm hboot 1.12 so I'm confused.
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If you're on hboot 1.12, I suggest using lazypanda to get s-off right away before doing anything else.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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If you're on hboot 1.12, I suggest using lazypanda to get s-off right away before doing anything else.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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I'm a little bit hesitant to do that since I've read it can go crazy wrong and I'm not as savvy with the phones as the folks on the forums. Do I have to though in order to update my PRI?
I'm not sure, I've been s-off since I got the phone.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
I am S-ON HBoot 1.15. Is it possible to flash HTC Stock recovery, go to stock rooted rom, use OTA root Keeper and take the new OTA?
You don't need OTA root keeper because your going to have to do HTC dev to unlock the device again.
With that being said I wouldnt recommend taking the OTA or running the ruu to update because you'll be on the new hboot
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Not to mention the new base for stock has introduced a few of its own issues that the new firmware/hboot can not fix. Several people have attempted to downgrade thinking its the best alternative and brick their phones in doing so. The new firmware doesn't change much anyway
Hello.
I used the wire Trick.
My hboot Version is 1.53.0007
S-off.
I would like to downgrade my hboot to 1.49. And use revolutionary to unlock.
Can i downgrade to that hboot and flash newest Radio/ Firmware without Problems?
Why do i want to do that?
Becouse it is the only way to flash cm Roms.
After i do that can i flash ics custom Roms without Problems?
Does someone has a Download Link for 1
.49. Hboot ?
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I think you can do that (I'm CDMA so ours is a little different). You could do the write trick and then downgrade your hboot after you get s-off. I think that would be easier.
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I think you can do that (I'm CDMA so ours is a little different). You could do the write trick and then downgrade your hboot after you get s-off. I think that would be easier.
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I have allready done the wire Trick.
S off too.
The question is when i downgrade the hboot are there eny Problems with that hboot and ics custom roms or do i only need to flash ics Firmware and no Problems?
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Runlevel5 said:
I have allready done the wire Trick.
S off too.
The question is when i downgrade the hboot are there eny Problems with that hboot and ics custom roms or do i only need to flash ics Firmware and no Problems?
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Duh. I misread your OP. Afaik, that hboot will allow you to install the ICS custom roms too, but you may want to wait for a GSM user to confirm. Or try it and if not, you can always revert back. The beauty of being s-off.
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Duh. I misread your OP. Afaik, that hboot will allow you to install the ICS custom roms too, but you may want to wait for a GSM user to confirm. Or try it and if not, you can always revert back. The beauty of being s-off.
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For that i need to Download hboot 1.49 and hboot 1.53 so if something goes wrong i can flash 1.53 and dont need to install RUU.
Hope someone has this 2 hboots so i can try it.
My only hope is that hboot 1.49 works with newest Firmware and i can flash ics custom Roms without reboots and Problems.
What i want to Do is.
Downgrade to 1.49
Unlock with recolutionary
Flash newest Firmware and flash and use eny custom Rom i want
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I have a gsm evo my hboot is 1.49 and I can flash ics sense 3.6 and sense 4 roms without any issue, hope that helps
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flashallthetime said:
I have a gsm evo my hboot is 1.49 and I can flash ics sense 3.6 and sense 4 roms without any issue, hope that helps
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Offcourse it helps.
Thx for that.
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It appears that HBOOT 1.15 will not get s-off any time soon...Is it O.K. to upgrade to HBOOT 1.19 and wait then for s-off capabilities, or is 1.19 taboo also.
I am rooted, can I stall HBOOT 1.19 with abd, or would I have to root the phone again, and install a recovery...
There are 2 ways, ruu or revert to stock for ota. You must relock bootloader before ruu or ota. For the ota you need stock recovery as well. There's a few misconceptions floating around. First is that you need to update to run the latest base, this is simply not true, I'm running mikeys latest without issue. The second is basically the same but involving the aroma installer, flashes fine but sometimes kernel will not flash and you boot to bootloader. This does not mean you need to update only that the kernel did not like the new base, fastboot kernel and you'll be fine. Some people still have WiFi issues and others have LTE issues, both should have been addressed in the last 2 updates and people with the latest firmware are still having problems. To me this does not warrant relocking upgrading and going through the unlock again.
A lot of people including myself don't consider 1.19 an upgrade and like om said you don't nerf to update
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Always best waiting
In my experiences, it is almost ALWAYS best to wait. If for some reason 1.19 gets s-off before 1.15 then u can update. But for now, just wait. I got lucky and I'm 1.12 s-off either way warranty is gone so always get s-off whenever possible.
I keep seeing threads about s-off. I'll like people to be more specific as to what they're trying to achieve that they can't while being s-on?
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Just the ability to directly flash software to partitions normally inaccessible, Firmware basically. Those of us s-on would have to flash back to stock, lock hboot, and accept an ota or relock and run the ruu
Also, don't know the details of any of it, but in the s-off bounty thread guy is donating a 1.15 hboot. U can flip a coin better than I can say what they will do with it then. Either update it to 1.19 or try and find the exploit on 1.15.
Personally, if I was a badass at finding exploits in HTC coding then I'd crack both like yesterday. But if I was that badass I'd have better stuff to do as well... Hoping for 1.19 s-off just for future development.
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Also, don't know the details of any of it, but in the s-off bounty thread guy is donating a 1.15 hboot. U can flip a coin better than I can say what they will do with it then. Either update it to 1.19 or try and find the exploit on 1.15.
Personally, if I was a badass at finding exploits in HTC coding then I'd crack both like yesterday. But if I was that badass I'd have better stuff to do as well... Hoping for 1.19 s-off just for future development.
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there is a guy in the s-off thread saying he will give up his phone and i saw fuses sent him a PM reply about it hang in there guys
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There are 2 ways, ruu or revert to stock for ota. You must relock bootloader before ruu or ota. For the ota you need stock recovery as well. There's a few misconceptions floating around. First is that you need to update to run the latest base, this is simply not true, I'm running mikeys latest without issue.
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Quick question: Are you saying that if I wanted to run Mean ROM that I do not need to be in the latest OTA? I'm confused because I was under the understanding that we needed to be on 2.13. Please clarify for me.
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No you don't, I ran meanrom a few days ago and today I switched to viper 2.02. Meanroms kernel installer worked fine, viper required fastboot but both run fine
Thanks for the quick response. Wow, I feel like a dumb *ss now. I've been holding out trying any new roms because I didn't want to come off of hboot 1.15.
Which rom do you like better so far between viper and mikey's?
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The level of customization on viper is crazy, meanrom runs great with evilz kernel and is closer to stock. I'm still sifting through the different mods for viper and I've yet to check out any themes but so far but I'm still digging through it all
Hello!
Is flashing a JB ROM on :
- S-ON
- 1.53.0007 HBOOT
safe?
I guess that after flashing I gonna have a different hboot (correct me if I'm wrong).
And how about flashing from JB to ICS?
Thanks for advices, I'm really new into android roms and can't afford a new phone if this one would be bricked.
m1nty said:
Hello!
Is flashing a JB ROM on :
- S-ON
- 1.53.0007 HBOOT
safe?
I guess that after flashing I gonna have a different hboot (correct me if I'm wrong).
And how about flashing from JB to ICS?
Thanks for advices, I'm really new into android roms and can't afford a new phone if this one would be bricked.
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You need to read the OP for the ROM. Usually they say what HBOOT is needed.
I can tell you that in order to go to JB you will need to S-Off first.
raptoro07 said:
You need to read the OP for the ROM. Usually they say what HBOOT is needed.
I can tell you that in order to go to JB you will need to S-Off first.
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Sadly dev haven't mentioned Hboot nor s-off or s-on. That's why I'm asking
Btw. Isn't only difference between S-ON and S-OFF that you have to flash boot.img via fastboot usb if you're S-ON?
m1nty said:
Sadly dev haven't mentioned Hboot nor s-off or s-on. That's why I'm asking
Btw. Isn't only difference between S-ON and S-OFF that you have to flash boot.img via fastboot usb if you're S-ON?
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No. Look here for an explantion of s-on versus s-off.
At quick search in the thread you linked yieled people saying you need 1.39.
If your phone is the gsm version, you will have to downgrade your hboot to 1.49. Now in order to downgrade, you're going to need to be s-off
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You're most likely going to end up bootlooping and confused. Go ahead and stay on stock rooted, and get S-Off, it's almost no risk, as failing to do the procedure right just means you have to keep trying.
you need non-ics bootloader so you need s-off first (wiretrick) then downgrade BL and then update radio.