Alright, I am on stock Android ICS 4.0.3 Samsung.
Since the past 3 or 4 days I've noticed that my phone's battery dies overnight. I rarely ever install new apps, rarely even use anything other than chrome, facebook app, Google+ app, gmail, gtalk. thats it.
Been using these for the past year or so, no problem. But since the last 3 days I've noticed that my battery is draining really fast. If I switch off wifi, it drains at the normal rate. Normal rate = 3 days standby.
As soon as I switch on WiFi, the drain starts. 3G data services have been disabled, because I don't have a data plan. All data usage is only over WiFi. I've checked wifi data usage over the past 4 days and It says I have used over 1.8Gb. When infact I don't use this much data even on my home pc to do anything! I am a very passive user. I know I haven't streamed video/audio in the past 7 days. no Youtubing even.
I installed my data manager to see what app was eating all that data. It says "OS Services".
I have rebooted the phone several times. Uninstalled several apps, like Facebook etc.. Did you guys know Google+ cannot be uninstalled? But I really think its some push service that just keeps on pushing. Any advise?
I thought i'd let you guys know that i fixed the issue, i think. I had to reboot my home routers. Ever since the reboot of the routers, things have been very stable.
Google+ cannot be uninstalled because its pretty much android bloatware. Root your phone and you can delete anything you want within reason.
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Hi, just updated to 2.3.3 stock rom, no flash, using the standard LG upgrade software, from v10q (I believe) to v20g.
I installed no new apps, didn't change a thing on my phone, but now my battery drains in 12h of no use, screen off.
Battery information says the phone never goes to sleep anymore, the blue bar is continuous.
I've tried shutting down running apps using both the phone's built in app manager and Advanced Task Killer, doesn't change a thing.
Searching the forums, I've found people with battery drain, but never the same issue or solution so I'm hoping someone might know something more on my specific situation.
Here's how I use my phone and what apps I generally have running:
Audio Manager Console and Advanced Task Killer are always running, I keep data off most of the time, and turn it on when I use it occasionally (usually no more than a few minutes at a time), no wi-fi, most of the phone usage comes from Think Free Office (at least since I upgraded 2 days ago) and a few minutes of calls. Brightness is always on min.
This is mostly how I generally use my phone all the time (throw in a couple of hours a day of Bluetooth music using the default music player, but this hasn't been the case since the update) and I used to recharge every 2-3 days. Now it's 2 times a day.
Before the upgrade my phone would barely burn any battery in idle (maybe 1-2% during the 12 hours, as opposed to 94% as it currently does)
Battery health seems fine, temperature is around 20-25C
What can I do?
cable36wu said:
Hi, just updated to 2.3.3 stock rom, no flash, using the standard LG upgrade software, from v10q (I believe) to v20g.
I installed no new apps, didn't change a thing on my phone, but now my battery drains in 12h of no use, screen off.
Battery information says the phone never goes to sleep anymore, the blue bar is continuous.
I've tried shutting down running apps using both the phone's built in app manager and Advanced Task Killer, doesn't change a thing.
Searching the forums, I've found people with battery drain, but never the same issue or solution so I'm hoping someone might know something more on my specific situation.
Here's how I use my phone and what apps I generally have running:
Audio Manager Console and Advanced Task Killer are always running, I keep data off most of the time, and turn it on when I use it occasionally (usually no more than a few minutes at a time), no wi-fi, most of the phone usage comes from Think Free Office (at least since I upgraded 2 days ago) and a few minutes of calls. Brightness is always on min.
This is mostly how I generally use my phone all the time (throw in a couple of hours a day of Bluetooth music using the default music player, but this hasn't been the case since the update) and I used to recharge every 2-3 days. Now it's 2 times a day.
Before the upgrade my phone would barely burn any battery in idle (maybe 1-2% during the 12 hours, as opposed to 94% as it currently does)
Battery health seems fine, temperature is around 20-25C
What can I do?
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Use apn on off widget to kill ur connection when u don't nees it...its a known issue known as the fastdormancy bug, which when u turn off data it makes ye phone awake. Apn on off is the easiest solution know...
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Thanks, will try, update results
I was pissed off as my phone lost all the juice over the night and didnt have time for filling it in the morning as i have to go to my job. Also i am a privacy freak and from obvious reasons i dont like google apps, same goes for gmail (as i am using exchange server i dont need all the sync stuff there) which was my initial reason for preventing the application to start - i dont use ANYTHING releated to google/market and i dont have any account there, i never used it.
On rooted phone I started to prevent starting everything related to google and DRM, market etc. (autostarts https://market.android.com/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts):
- DRM*
- Factory Test*
- com.google.*
(i think this was all, i'll recheck if there was something else)
And guess what. The battery drain over the night is now around 2% and the phone is quite able to survive 2 days (not completely accurate as i had it connected to computer for 10 minutes in between to pump some files from it), after the second night i still had 12% of battery left.
If someone else is able to repeat that, please report the results and if someone is able to figure out which app exactly is draining the battery even batter.
One thing i dont really understand is what are those apps doing during the night, there is no reason to contact any of google services as i dont have any account entered, so wtf are they doing?!
To ROM cookers, please stop adding google apps by default, make them as package to be installed later if you wish.
I do not have any communication or at least there should be none over 3g (droidwall) and i dont want to kill aplications just to have peacefull sleep. I was searching for final solution and i have found it.
One solution is to switch off wifi and data connection in night and sure you will have better battery drainage.
Not entirely related but just a heads up for people, last night i downloaded that Getjar app and it decimated my battery overnight so i uninstalled it this morning.
I assume most on here know about https://market.android.com/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en this is the best app you can get when it comes to preventing battery drain (tells you exactly what is draining your battery)
seems getjar is eating away at the battery, dont understand why it needs to do that !
Go to the task manager and kill all running tasks, then clear ur RAM before going to sleep @ night.
I loose like 1-2%
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I do not have any communication or at least there should be none over 3g (droidwall) and i dont want to kill aplications just to have peacefull sleep. I was searching for final solution and i have found it.
If it is a night issue, try turning the display ON before unplugging the charging cord. I have used this method and the battery stays at 100% all night long.
Which is better for the batterylife, 3G or Wifi?
At home and at work I'm connected to Wifi, but yesterday I noticed when I turned off Wifi and used 3G instead 3G seems to use less battery. However, this could also be because of several wakelocks I had when I was using Wifi.
I would understand Wifi is better for heavy internet use and 3G for push messages, but I couldn't find an answer anywhere on the forum, sorry if I missed it.
Bommeke said:
Which is better for the batterylife, 3G or Wifi?
At home and at work I'm connected to Wifi, but yesterday I noticed when I turned off Wifi and used 3G instead 3G seems to use less battery. However, this could also be because of several wakelocks I had when I was using Wifi.
I would understand Wifi is better for heavy internet use and 3G for push messages, but I couldn't find an answer anywhere on the forum, sorry if I missed it.
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Hi there!
Wifi uses a lot less battery life, especially if you browse or do anything.
Having wifi ON always uses a certain amount of battery life, now, if you're receiving emails, downloading, browsing, it easily makes up for it. The reason for this is that Wifi is a "local" communication signal. It's for short distances, therefore your phone doesn't have to emit that strong of a signal, nor does it use up that much battery to receive. So Wifi is the way to go if you're just going to use it even a little bit.
3G uses more energy because of the radio spectrum itself and the distance and having to maintain it. It's true while having wifi you also maintain 3G, but you're not emitting constant data, it's just the "I'm still alive" packet to your operator.
Summary:
Use wifi if you're going to use your phone on the internet even a little bit. Turn it off when you don't have wifi near you, otherwise it'll be looking for a new wifi hotspot and that'll drain some battery.
Don't use wifi if you're not home.
Thanks for the clear answer!
Glad to have helped
New problem
The last 2/3 days my batterylife decreased. My phone was awake most of the time even though the screen was off and this hadn't happened before. After installing BetterBatteryStats (BBS) I could see the process wlan_rx_wake was on top (about 6,5 hours of the total 10 hours the phone was on).
My first thought was some app was responsible for this, however when I turned off Wifi and started using 3G again my batterylife seems to be normal again. Checking BBS the wlan_rx_wake seems to be renamed to deleted_wake_locks.
The last things that changed just before the problems started occurring was installing the Facebook and Twitter app, and updated to the latest ICS Vertumes theme (I was on 1.5 and now I'm on 1.6). So I uninstalled the Facebook and Twitter app but this didnt help at all. I already uninstalled Google Maps. The only thing I haven't tried yet is changing to the original theme, but it doesn't make sense this could be the solution.
Any ideas?
I had the same problem with the twitter app, it kept waking my device so i uninstalled it and use Ubersocial now.
I use Juicedefender (Ultimate version if you want to pay)
Juicedefender can turn off your wifi and 3g when your screen is off. It can be set to ping your data/wifi every few minutes if required to check emails tweets.
But Twitter nor Facebook is the problem. When uninstalled the problem still exists. Dont want to turn off wifi or 3G when the screen is off as then my mail or whatsapp wont sync.
Read something that it could be the type of router, but this isn't it as well. I've got the problem at home, work and at my parents house. All different routers.
Think I might just do a full-wipe and hope that solves it..
Before you do a full wipe try freezing Wifi Sharing and Wifi Sharing Manager with Titanium or Bloat Freezer Free to see if that makes a difference.
Sorry I recognize twitter was not an issue for you, it was the app that first alerted me to my issues about the wakelocks
LocationManagerService
Hmm... LocationManagerService is active over more than 4 hours. What could that be? GPS and the Google location stuff is already disabled..
logout of maps and check if that helped.
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wakelocks by apps that needs to sync can still be left even if u have deleted the actual apps that's requesting on-line data.residuals i would say.but try to check each and every apps that you have installed and see if they have sync or update requests and prolly modify them to manual.see also if ICS has a push notification request like "send errors to" or "check updates"
3G ofcourse
Maybe it's the kernel. Currently using Speedmod K2-18-test12. Lost 50% battery during the night. The phone wasnt awake but didnt enter deep sleep either.
Will try Speedmod K2-18-test16 next. If that doesnt solve it I'll try a whole different kernel.
My Samsung S3 battery goes from fully charged to "low battery" often before I get home from work. I just put up with it because troubleshooting Android is such a pain even with Better Battery Stats.
But by exceeding my data quota this month I see exactly what the problem is. Android 4.3 disabled data last night because I went over my quota.
It is now 6:02PM and my battery is at 82% when it would usually be at 5% by now. I still used my phone almost exactly the same amount as I have a desktop at work. My battery usually goes down to 5% just doing nothing in my pocket and making a few calls and texts and some music listening.
My poor battery life is due to all the data transfer bull Google is doing in the background every day.
Better battery stats can identify the process like Bam_dmux or fast dormancy, but it doesn't tell you which apps are actually calling the wakelock.
If Android did keep proper track of this I am sure many apps would be deleted (including Google Apps) from phone in a instant.
But it is too much trouble to try to figure out which one it is so we just put up with 6 hour standby battery life when the manufacturer claims 72 hours.
What a mess ..... I am going to have to research "restrict background data" now to waste more of my time.
Looking at Data Usage in setting doesn't help much because it only tells how much not how often
HaHaHaHa: Google Search on = android "restrict background data" gives 192,000 hits
Does anyone know a good site or method to do this?
Fixed Battery Issue
Well I managed to solve my battery problems at least until the next round of updates.
Previously ..... Galaxy S3 goes from full battery to empty by about 4:00PM in the workday ... mostly phone is sitting in my pocket. No surfing, occasional call.
Then I blocked background data for:
1) Play Store (I am tired of useless updates anyway)
2) Medscape
3) MPR
4) EMAIL ( confirmed this does not affect Gmail notifications )
Then Removed Accounts:
1) All associated with Samsung
2) WeChat and program
So only Accounts for Dropbox, Google, Scribd and Whatsup are left
Nothing else changed
It's 10:00PM and I still have 60% battery ..... sometimes getting pissed helps as I have been putting up with this for a month.
Unfortunately I don't know which were the offenders.
Sirandar said:
My Samsung S3 battery goes from fully charged to "low battery" often before I get home from work. I just put up with it because troubleshooting Android is such a pain even with Better Battery Stats.
But by exceeding my data quota this month I see exactly what the problem is. Android 4.3 disabled data last night because I went over my quota.
It is now 6:02PM and my battery is at 82% when it would usually be at 5% by now. I still used my phone almost exactly the same amount as I have a desktop at work. My battery usually goes down to 5% just doing nothing in my pocket and making a few calls and texts and some music listening.
My poor battery life is due to all the data transfer bull Google is doing in the background every day.
Better battery stats can identify the process like Bam_dmux or fast dormancy, but it doesn't tell you which apps are actually calling the wakelock.
If Android did keep proper track of this I am sure many apps would be deleted (including Google Apps) from phone in a instant.
But it is too much trouble to try to figure out which one it is so we just put up with 6 hour standby battery life when the manufacturer claims 72 hours.
What a mess ..... I am going to have to research "restrict background data" now to waste more of my time.
Looking at Data Usage in setting doesn't help much because it only tells how much not how often
HaHaHaHa: Google Search on = android "restrict background data" gives 192,000 hits
Does anyone know a good site or method to do this?
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Day5
Since I made these changes my battery life has been greater than 60% every single night no matter how much I use the phone. Maybe it was WeChat.....
Play Store Issues from the OP
My battery life bliss was cut short by issues with my gmail account and sync probably caused my "restrict background data" on the play store.
Previously restricting background data on Play Store and WeChat improved my battery life from 100%-0 in 8 hours to 100% to 90% in 8 hours
BUT
This seems to cause issues with gmail and Google sync. Neither would work and I had to uninstall and clear data for both to get them working again. It said the sync was "experiencing difficulties".
Uninstalling and reinstalling gmail and play seems to have fixed my battery issues .... even without background data restrictions.
Sirandar said:
My Samsung S3 battery goes from fully charged to "low battery" often before I get home from work. I just put up with it because troubleshooting Android is such a pain even with Better Battery Stats.
But by exceeding my data quota this month I see exactly what the problem is. Android 4.3 disabled data last night because I went over my quota.
It is now 6:02PM and my battery is at 82% when it would usually be at 5% by now. I still used my phone almost exactly the same amount as I have a desktop at work. My battery usually goes down to 5% just doing nothing in my pocket and making a few calls and texts and some music listening.
My poor battery life is due to all the data transfer bull Google is doing in the background every day.
Better battery stats can identify the process like Bam_dmux or fast dormancy, but it doesn't tell you which apps are actually calling the wakelock.
If Android did keep proper track of this I am sure many apps would be deleted (including Google Apps) from phone in a instant.
But it is too much trouble to try to figure out which one it is so we just put up with 6 hour standby battery life when the manufacturer claims 72 hours.
What a mess ..... I am going to have to research "restrict background data" now to waste more of my time.
Looking at Data Usage in setting doesn't help much because it only tells how much not how often
HaHaHaHa: Google Search on = android "restrict background data" gives 192,000 hits
Does anyone know a good site or method to do this?
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The problems started today.
-When I push the power button sometimes the screen will not turn on. When I hold the power button I can hear the sound of the power menu pop up so I know the device is receiving the signal from the power button.
-I am receiving texts very late or not at all. I just got a message my friend sent like 8 hours ago.
-The device is also a little laggy sometimes, and certain things, like the play store will not load.
-I can't turn on airplane mode
I re-flashed it with the original firmware (while keeping my data intact) and this made no change. I have installed some new apps recently, but this was several days before the issues started. I have since installed those apps and no change
Tomorrow I plan to get a new sim card, but does anyone have any other ideas?
I recently had a similar problem with my z3v. I had a wakelock from Google services that was making my processor use almost 70% constantly and would drain battery in like 3 hours. Mine turned out to be Google calendar sync. My phone would lag so hard it couldn't run widgets or anything. Check your battery in settings and see if something has a high percentage. The screen should be the highest usage by a large margin.
krenogin said:
I recently had a similar problem with my z3v. I had a wakelock from Google services that was making my processor use almost 70% constantly and would drain battery in like 3 hours. Mine turned out to be Google calendar sync. My phone would lag so hard it couldn't run widgets or anything. Check your battery in settings and see if something has a high percentage. The screen should be the highest usage by a large margin.
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I turned off auto-sync and no change. The screen was the largest use followed by the playstore which had be trying to start since I tried to open it.
My playstore was messed up and would not open while this was going on. It just stayed white and if I locked the screen it took 5 mins to unlock. I also have root and used wakelock detector. I used cpu z to see if I had high processor usage.
You can try ur phone in ultra stamina and see how it acts as well for troubleshooting.
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My playstore was messed up and would not open while this was going on. It just stayed white and if I locked the screen it took 5 mins to unlock. I also have root and used wakelock detector. I used cpu z to see if I had high processor usage.
You can try ur phone in ultra stamina and see how it acts as well for troubleshooting.
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Turns out the verizon cloud backs up text messages as well so that's what I needed. I ended up just doing a factory reset of the phone, seems like all is good now. I didn't think it was going to work since I put new firmware on it and nothing changed. It seems we had the same type of problem though. I did run the phone in safe mode with no improvement, but not ultra stamina. How did you end up fixing the problem?
My husband's phone started having basically the same issues out of the blue yesterday as well. It's not rooted or anything and he hasn't downloaded any apps or anything in weeks. Folks at Verizon store have no idea what's going on. We're about to try a factory reset. We also noticed the play store was burning a lot of battery even though he hadn't tried to open it or use it for several days at least, and can't get it to open now.
Try clearing play store "data" and "cache" through app manager.
This is a disaster, I've been trying forever to restore my text messages from the verizon cloud. Keeps failing after transferring less than 20 percent (different amount each time)