This may be a lame question, but if 4G becomes active in my area, is there anything i need to do? or will the 4G notification just turn on when a signal is detected?
decaffviper17 said:
This may be a lame question, but if 4G becomes active in my area, is there anything i need to do? or will the 4G notification just turn on when a signal is detected?
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Its not lame, its how you learn. In theory, no.
There are settings for CDMA and LTE under the mobile networks area so assuming you are set to CDMA / LTE, running stock and you are close enough to a LTE tower you should switch to LTE automatically. If you search there are a number of tweaks and additional settings also available in case you aren't successful.
If you never change your mobile network mode from cdma/lte in your settings then it should automatically connect if you ever get lte in your city.
The above posters answered the question, but if you would like to know more about when LTE might be available in your area head on over to www.s4gru.com
leerage said:
The above posters answered the question, but if you would like to know more about when LTE might be available in your area head on over to www.s4gru.com
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so i don't really know alot about the CDMA/LTE stuff... but on the original Evo the 4G was on the CDMA network correct? The New EVO just has 4G on the LTE network? Meaning if i was able to pick up 4G in my area with the original EVO i won't be able to get 4G with my new EVO LTE until they add LTE in the area?
am I understanding this correct?
Correct, 4g was on the wimax network, now 4g is lte. Wimax is still available, it will eventually be phased out.
That sucks... I live in bumf so doubt I'll have LTE anytime soon... But at least this phone is still awesome
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I am wondering if there is way for me to shut down the 4G service on my amaze and have 3G instead. I know on some android phones it is possible. signal drops on 4G is really pissing me off
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I am wondering if there is way for me to shut down the 4G service on my amaze and have 3G instead. I know on some android phones it is possible. signal drops on 4G is really pissing me off
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if it drops 4g it should automatically switch to 3g, if its not, its either cause you have no data reception at all at the time, or you have a screwed up phone, probably not the latter. There are some toggle apps you can look into on the market though, elixir is really good, and beautiful widgets has a 4g toggle i believe as well... hope this helps ya...
I'm using LTE switch. cuts it down too 4G
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.geoffreybuttercrumbs.lteswitch&feature=search_result
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elixir looks nice, I'm going to play around with it.
TheHeffNerr said:
I'm using LTE switch. cuts it down too 4G
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.geoffreybuttercrumbs.lteswitch&feature=search_result
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GSM Auto (4g)
elixir looks nice, I'm going to play around with it.
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the LTE switch works for HSPA+?
It's kicking my phone down too and showing 2G and after running a speed test it's like 200kbps. I haven't really tried to kick it over to 3G.
vikramdhani said:
I am wondering if there is way for me to shut down the 4G service on my amaze and have 3G instead. I know on some android phones it is possible. signal drops on 4G is really pissing me off
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Your choices are 2G or 3G/4G. The 3G and 4G signals are essentially the same, both WCDMA. This is why you don't see a 3G icon, it is all wrapped into the 4G icon.
If you want to stop 4G data, you can download the widget from the market or go to Settings > Wireless & Networks >Mobile Networks > and change Network Mode to GSM only.
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Your choices are 2G or 3G/4G. The 3G and 4G signals are essentially the same, both WCDMA. This is why you don't see a 3G icon, it is all wrapped into the 4G icon.
If you want to stop 4G data, you can download the widget from the market or go to Settings > Wireless & Networks >Mobile Networks > and change Network Mode to GSM only.
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This.
4G and 3G use the same "part" of the network.
T-Mobile's network is not like Verizon or Sprint, where a completely different communication channel is being used.
The functionality is quite similar to WiFi...With 802.11 B and G, they use they same frequencies and talk on the same channels. However, 802.11 B tops out at 10Mbps, while G is capable of hitting (theoretically) 54mbps. The only caveat being that both the access point and the client, must support the updated protocol.
So yes, although it's doesn't seem logical, your choice is either 4G (HSDPA and HSDPA+) or 2G (EDGE).
If 3 and 4g are the same on Tmobile's network, then when you're on 4G, does it use any more battery than it does on 3G?
My user experience says yes. The battery hogging is on par with the EVO and Sprint's wimax. There was a switch to revert to 3G, and all sprint users that I knew never used 4G because it drained the battery in a matter of a few hours.
On an AT&T iPhone 3G, the battery never drained this quickly.
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I am wondering if there is way for me to shut down the 4G service on my amaze and have 3G instead. I know on some android phones it is possible. signal drops on 4G is really pissing me off
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As long as i am not leaving the 3G or 4G area, i set mine on wcdma only. Problem solved. When i travel into 2g areas, i put it back on auto.
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If 3 and 4g are the same on Tmobile's network, then when you're on 4G, does it use any more battery than it does on 3G?
My user experience says yes. The battery hogging is on par with the EVO and Sprint's wimax. There was a switch to revert to 3G, and all sprint users that I knew never used 4G because it drained the battery in a matter of a few hours.
On an AT&T iPhone 3G, the battery never drained this quickly.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong.. But our 3g and 4g has no dependence on our radio. It's dependent on the signal we receive. So to answer your question, no power is saved because 3g and 4g use the same part of the phone. Only on 2g because a lower power radio is receiving the data signal
Over 10000!!! You bet I am.
I have a question if it is possible to flash a radio that will allow the atrix 4g to access the 4g Lte network?? I just heard att is going to be adding their version of the so called 4g lte network to our area and I realize that now that my phone is not a true 4g phone more or less an upgraded version of 3g. Since I was under the impression I could access the lte network and now I know I can't I am wondering if there would be a way to flash a radio that would allow me to access the lte network. Thanks for any information guys and girls!!!
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From my understanding the Atrix is a 4g phone but At&t is just now getting there 4g or lte software up and running in some areas so its not the phone its the network that's not 4g
no, theres no LTE radio inside the atrix.
Before the LTE roll out, HSPA+ was considered 4G. The Atrix has HSPA+ therefore "4G". New bill/law is making carriers changing the ways they're advertising 4g now. LTE is the "new" 4G.
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Welcome to the world of "we made the same technology a bit faster so we are going to call it 4G so we dont get left in the dust". 4G just means 4th Generation. If it is different enough from prior technology, then it is a new generation, but the various "4G" offerings (LTE, HSPA+, wiMax) are no more compatible than the 3G (EVDO, EDGE) are/were.
The idea behind getting everyone to use the name 4G synonymously with LTE is because that is where everyone is evolving to. They wont be able to pick some transitionary technology and pretend that they are caught up.
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Welcome to the world of "we made the same technology a bit faster so we are going to call it 4G so we dont get left in the dust". 4G just means 4th Generation. If it is different enough from prior technology, then it is a new generation, but the various "4G" offerings (LTE, HSPA+, wiMax) are no more compatible than the 3G (EVDO, EDGE) are/were.
The idea behind getting everyone to use the name 4G synonymously with LTE is because that is where everyone is evolving to. They wont be able to pick some transitionary technology and pretend that they are caught up.
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Actually, some speeds need to be reached for the carriers/phone makers to call it 4G. These peek speed limits were set by the international telecommunication union (ITU).
" peak speed requirements for 4G service at 100 Mbit/s for high mobility communication (such as from trains and cars) and 1 Gbit/s for low mobility communication (such as pedestrians and stationary users)"
search for 4G on wikipedia for more information
Yea just a little bummed I wont be able to access 4gLTE speeds in my atrix 4g... I was just misinformed when I bought the phone I guess. Goes to show you how much research you hablve to do in order to find out the truth. Is it possible to flash a 4GLTE radio to the atrix or are we "SOL"? our phones definitely don't lack the speed as the atrix still is up there with the brand new phones.
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The ITU declared AT&T's HSPA+ as 4G along with T-Mobile's HSPA+ and Verizon's LTE network. Prior to that, not even LTE or Wimax were considered 4G.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/hspa-now-officially-4g-according-to-itu/
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Yea just a little bummed I wont be able to access 4gLTE speeds in my atrix 4g... I was just misinformed when I bought the phone I guess. Goes to show you how much research you hablve to do in order to find out the truth. Is it possible to flash a 4GLTE radio to the atrix or are we "SOL"? our phones definitely don't lack the speed as the atrix still is up there with the brand new phones.
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We're SOL. My understanding is the hardware is different.
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Yea just a little bummed I wont be able to access 4gLTE speeds in my atrix 4g... I was just misinformed when I bought the phone I guess. Goes to show you how much research you hablve to do in order to find out the truth. Is it possible to flash a 4GLTE radio to the atrix or are we "SOL"? our phones definitely don't lack the speed as the atrix still is up there with the brand new phones.
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Consider this.............Atrix 4G is a cat 10 device. This means capable of 14.4Mbits/s down and 5.76Mbits/s up. The phone is not holding us back, the networks are. If they delivered enough bandwidth and coverage we would be able to utilize these speeds. Because they don't, we are stuck with what they give/throttle us at. In a nutshell, the Atrix is capable of A LOT more speed than our providers allow.
4G means nothing!!
4G doesn't mean anything anymore. None of these networks give the speeds that 4G was supposed to give. LTE Advanced is going to be the game changer in my eyes. http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/weinschenk/like-lte-you-aint-seen-nothin-yet/?cs=49064
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I have a question if it is possible to flash a radio that will allow the atrix 4g to access the 4g Lte network?? I just heard att is going to be adding their version of the so called 4g lte network to our area and I realize that now that my phone is not a true 4g phone more or less an upgraded version of 3g. Since I was under the impression I could access the lte network and now I know I can't I am wondering if there would be a way to flash a radio that would allow me to access the lte network. Thanks for any information guys and girls!!!
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There is no hardware for 4G LTE in the Atrix , so its a straight no. What u can see as flashing radio are nothing buy different drivers for the wireless radio modem.
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Does anyone know if the Evo 4G LTE will have an LTE toggle like the 4G Wimax button on previous phones (Epic for example)? Or is LTE always enabled, and it just connects to the towers as it sees it...like 3D and 1x is handled now? If it is a toggle button, does LTE use less power than Wimax, so that it is not as much of an issue?
Yes there's a toggle. LTE is not on by default.
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Hopefully it doesn't draw as much power as Wimax, so I can actually leave it toggled on when LTE is brought up in the area. I hate having to toggle between 3G and 4G when I need data, and waiting for 4G to try to connect, obtain an IP address, and then disconnect because I'm right outside the range. Would really prefer it to just use LTE when I am in a covered area without me even having to think about it.
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Yes there's a toggle. LTE is not on by default.
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Hopefully this is wrong, but not according to GoodAndEVO.net.
As far as LTE goes, there's not a widget to turn it on and off quite yet, but that could very well be coming soon in a future software update. For now, it's possible to turn LTE off in the Mobile network settings menu.
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And the chip structure should mean that LTE on the EVO 4G LTE uses less power than the WiMAX implementation on the EVO 4G. WiMAX was added to the EVO 4G independently of the other circuitry, if memory serves, and that is thought to be one of the main reasons it draws so much power.
Verizon's original lte phones didn't have a toggle at all. I think that's what the op was talking about.
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Verizon's original lte phones didn't have a toggle at all. I think that's what the op was talking about.
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Ah. I thought he meant a toggle widget, like in the EVO 4G.
Maybe he did. I'm all over....
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Actually I was curious about both...if LTE can be disabled, and if there is a widget to do it. So it sounds like it can be disabled, and there will eventually be a widget for it. Definitely glad to hear that it should require less power than WiMax. Hopefully once LTE comes up in my area (Nashville), then I will be able to leave it enabled the majority of the time.
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Hopefully this is wrong, but not according to GoodAndEVO.net.
And the chip structure should mean that LTE on the EVO 4G LTE uses less power than the WiMAX implementation on the EVO 4G. WiMAX was added to the EVO 4G independently of the other circuitry, if memory serves, and that is thought to be one of the main reasons it draws so much power.
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Phil Nickinson @ androidcentral posted a pic or video showing you can turn off LTE.
Sorry I can't find it now. It's in the forums somewhere..
The HTC One X has no toggle. (I've played with it, and LTE is always on)
But considering 99.9% won't have LTE at launch, there's no way Evo LTE has is on by default. It would be too much of a battery hog.
I really like this phone but want to make sure that the LTE connection issues are able to be fixed with a software update. I hope Sprint isn't BS'ing on this. I have a couple of days to return the phone and want to make sure this is fixable before deciding to keep it.
Anyone know if the Sprint rep who said it's a software issue is telling the truth or BS?
At heart it is a good radio. No reason it shouldn't work as it's supposed to. So, the majority of the issue is software. And it is fixable. Maybe just as good as S3 and iPhone 5 LTE reception?
The big question here is if Sprint will actually fix it this time. Know that there were fixes for LTE in 2 previous ota's. To what extent they worked on it before, idk. Thinking that this time is make or break it.
So, the answer is wait and see. U can get out of contract if LTE doesn't work for u though. It's apart of your service plan. Gonna require persistence on your part to get out after the 14 days is up, but u can do it.
If I were u and needed a good LTE capable phone, I'd go with the S3. Because at this point, it is up in the air if it will receive LTE like it should in the near future.
Correction first update was wifi, second was lte lol
Hope so. Has to be software related since both this and the s3 have the same radio. And, since the airplane mode on/off trick gets it working, I'm lead to believe its software.
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Hope so. Has to be software related since both this and the s3 have the same radio. And, since the airplane mode on/off trick gets it working, I'm lead to believe its software.
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Airplane mode trick???
I really hope they can fix this. I decided to keep the phone after looking at the S3 screen and build quality I just couldn't switch. I really love the screen on this!! It is just as good as my wife's iPhone 5 in color reproduction. The S3 is nice but don't like PenTile as I can notice it and I don't like it when whites have a blue color to it.
The Evo LTE has the same SoC as the S3. If the Evo was having hardware problems with LTE so would the S3, but that is not the case (according to what I have been able to look up). Therefore it can be concluded that the LTE issues are software and not hardware.
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Airplane mode trick???
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AKA Airplane Mode Dance
If you are in an LTE area and your phone is stuck on 3G, or if your phone is on LTE and it drops back down to 3G, then toggling Airplane Mode ON and back OFF will make the radio scan and re-latch to LTE.
That's the problem with our EVOs, it's an LTE threshold and handoff problem.
I live right on the edge of LTE coverage, so my phone will handoff to 3G because it decides the LTE signal is too weak. The problem is, in my area a "weak" LTE signal is MUCH faster than a strong 3G signal. If I go into my radio options and choose "LTE only" it will hold LTE signal all day long. So the signal is there, albeit weak.
What we need is a software fix that will change our radio's signal threshold so that it will prioritize a weaker LTE signal over 3G.
I'm tired of doing the airplane mode dance. If LTE is available, I want my EVO to latch on and stay on it even if it's weak.
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I use to get spotty LTE here in san Antonio so I thought it was the radio. But now I've been getting it pretty consistantly everywhere. So now I'm starting to think its there towers or something
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If I go into my radio options and choose "LTE only" it will hold LTE signal all day long.
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Any way to do this on sense? I've only got lte/cdma and cdma only options
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Any way to do this on sense? I've only got lte/cdma and cdma only options
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Using a Sense ROM, open your phone dialer and type *#*#4636#*#*
Select "Phone Information" then scroll down to "Preferred Network Type" and that should give you the option you're looking for
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Or download the app "network" from playstore. Let's u do the same thing while less obtrusive and gives u more options.
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Or download the app "network" from playstore. Let's u do the same thing while less obtrusive and gives u more options.
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Can you link it? I'm finding various apps named "network" something or another but none with just that solely as the title
The icon changed so I had a bit of trouble finding it but here you go Network app
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Using a Sense ROM, open your phone dialer and type *#*#4636#*#*
Select "Phone Information" then scroll down to "Preferred Network Type" and that should give you the option you're looking for
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Anthonicia said:
Or download the app "network" from playstore. Let's u do the same thing while less obtrusive and gives u more options.
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The icon changed so I had a bit of trouble finding it but here you go Network app
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Thanks guys! Installing app now and have the data code saved for a rainy day as well
Edit : after switching to lte only, I get no data (voice or sms) but im able to run a speed test using 4g. I live in L.A. but I connect to an Albuquerque, New Mexico server I'm not sure what else I'm to do to enable lte only and keep data
It's NOT true for me that switching it to LTE only will keep it connected. I still only keep the connection for about 10 seconds and then it goes back to 3G. My understanding is that option in both *#*#4634#*#* and ##DATA# is "preferred mode." It will drop back to 3G.
And I know for sure that Sprint and HTC have an open ticket on this issue of aquiring and keeping an LTE signal. They will eventually get a fix out for it.
I used the network tool post earlier and set mine to cdma/lte... So I get 4g and voice/text.. no evdo. Which is fine by me because evdo sucks anyway lol.
Works great I now can keep 4g in my house like my gfs gs3 and not switch back to crap-do
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Someone try the 10/21 build of cm10 from deck.
I'm holding lte and seeing it places I couldn't get it before even when set to lte only.
This has completely corrected the issue for me.
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I'm in a decent LTE area (DFW). Why can I have crappy 4G data and can't load anything. Then I dial *#*#4636#*#* and change to LTE ONLY and it loads LTE and extremely fast, but obviously can't accept calls. Why does the LTE/GSM not just stick on LTE instead of going 4G -_-
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Do you have the Google edition one?
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Yes, more info about the device please.
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I'm in a decent LTE area (DFW). Why can I have crappy 4G data and can't load anything. Then I dial *#*#4636#*#* and change to LTE ONLY and it loads LTE and extremely fast, but obviously can't accept calls. Why does the LTE/GSM not just stick on LTE instead of going 4G -_-
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No I have the official T-Mobile version, it is running the latest firmware and radio as of last week. Running AOSP ROM AICP.
I mean it could possibly be due to them working on towers but it still seems weird that the phone wouldn't try to connect to LTE when ever it is possibly available. It might be a placaebo effect, but it just seems like the phone has been having way more delays loading things, even if the ping is low in Speed Test.
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I'm in a decent LTE area (DFW). Why can I have crappy 4G data and can't load anything. Then I dial *#*#4636#*#* and change to LTE ONLY and it loads LTE and extremely fast, but obviously can't accept calls. Why does the LTE/GSM not just stick on LTE instead of going 4G -_-
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When the phone is set to LTE/GSM it will monitor signal thresholds to try and keep you from having a poor experience on LTE at the fringe. So that if it detects your LTE signal is low it will move over to 4G or even 2G to try and provide you a better experience. When you set it to LTE only then it stays on LTE as long as you have usable signal.
T-Mobile probably has the threshold set too conservative, but that doesn't explain your poor experience on 4g (HSPA). I live in DFW and my HSPA service is fast.
Im in Dallas. Main travel area is old east dallas and north central / north east dallas..
I can tell you that im happy with both HSDPA+ and LTE with them.
on the rare occasion i have had a reception / speed issue i find that power cycling my phone fixed it. Also make sure if you do that you have FastBoot disabled.
Thats under power settings, make sure its not checked.
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Also make sure if you do that you have FastBoot disabled.
Thats under power settings, make sure its not checked.
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What's wrong with using Fast Boot?
it doesnt shut down apps properly..
its similar to hibernation.
Good to know, thanks.