Does anyone know if the Evo 4G LTE will have an LTE toggle like the 4G Wimax button on previous phones (Epic for example)? Or is LTE always enabled, and it just connects to the towers as it sees it...like 3D and 1x is handled now? If it is a toggle button, does LTE use less power than Wimax, so that it is not as much of an issue?
Yes there's a toggle. LTE is not on by default.
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Hopefully it doesn't draw as much power as Wimax, so I can actually leave it toggled on when LTE is brought up in the area. I hate having to toggle between 3G and 4G when I need data, and waiting for 4G to try to connect, obtain an IP address, and then disconnect because I'm right outside the range. Would really prefer it to just use LTE when I am in a covered area without me even having to think about it.
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Yes there's a toggle. LTE is not on by default.
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Hopefully this is wrong, but not according to GoodAndEVO.net.
As far as LTE goes, there's not a widget to turn it on and off quite yet, but that could very well be coming soon in a future software update. For now, it's possible to turn LTE off in the Mobile network settings menu.
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And the chip structure should mean that LTE on the EVO 4G LTE uses less power than the WiMAX implementation on the EVO 4G. WiMAX was added to the EVO 4G independently of the other circuitry, if memory serves, and that is thought to be one of the main reasons it draws so much power.
Verizon's original lte phones didn't have a toggle at all. I think that's what the op was talking about.
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david279 said:
Verizon's original lte phones didn't have a toggle at all. I think that's what the op was talking about.
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Ah. I thought he meant a toggle widget, like in the EVO 4G.
Maybe he did. I'm all over....
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Actually I was curious about both...if LTE can be disabled, and if there is a widget to do it. So it sounds like it can be disabled, and there will eventually be a widget for it. Definitely glad to hear that it should require less power than WiMax. Hopefully once LTE comes up in my area (Nashville), then I will be able to leave it enabled the majority of the time.
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Hopefully this is wrong, but not according to GoodAndEVO.net.
And the chip structure should mean that LTE on the EVO 4G LTE uses less power than the WiMAX implementation on the EVO 4G. WiMAX was added to the EVO 4G independently of the other circuitry, if memory serves, and that is thought to be one of the main reasons it draws so much power.
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Phil Nickinson @ androidcentral posted a pic or video showing you can turn off LTE.
Sorry I can't find it now. It's in the forums somewhere..
The HTC One X has no toggle. (I've played with it, and LTE is always on)
But considering 99.9% won't have LTE at launch, there's no way Evo LTE has is on by default. It would be too much of a battery hog.
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I have a question if it is possible to flash a radio that will allow the atrix 4g to access the 4g Lte network?? I just heard att is going to be adding their version of the so called 4g lte network to our area and I realize that now that my phone is not a true 4g phone more or less an upgraded version of 3g. Since I was under the impression I could access the lte network and now I know I can't I am wondering if there would be a way to flash a radio that would allow me to access the lte network. Thanks for any information guys and girls!!!
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From my understanding the Atrix is a 4g phone but At&t is just now getting there 4g or lte software up and running in some areas so its not the phone its the network that's not 4g
no, theres no LTE radio inside the atrix.
Before the LTE roll out, HSPA+ was considered 4G. The Atrix has HSPA+ therefore "4G". New bill/law is making carriers changing the ways they're advertising 4g now. LTE is the "new" 4G.
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Welcome to the world of "we made the same technology a bit faster so we are going to call it 4G so we dont get left in the dust". 4G just means 4th Generation. If it is different enough from prior technology, then it is a new generation, but the various "4G" offerings (LTE, HSPA+, wiMax) are no more compatible than the 3G (EVDO, EDGE) are/were.
The idea behind getting everyone to use the name 4G synonymously with LTE is because that is where everyone is evolving to. They wont be able to pick some transitionary technology and pretend that they are caught up.
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Welcome to the world of "we made the same technology a bit faster so we are going to call it 4G so we dont get left in the dust". 4G just means 4th Generation. If it is different enough from prior technology, then it is a new generation, but the various "4G" offerings (LTE, HSPA+, wiMax) are no more compatible than the 3G (EVDO, EDGE) are/were.
The idea behind getting everyone to use the name 4G synonymously with LTE is because that is where everyone is evolving to. They wont be able to pick some transitionary technology and pretend that they are caught up.
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Actually, some speeds need to be reached for the carriers/phone makers to call it 4G. These peek speed limits were set by the international telecommunication union (ITU).
" peak speed requirements for 4G service at 100 Mbit/s for high mobility communication (such as from trains and cars) and 1 Gbit/s for low mobility communication (such as pedestrians and stationary users)"
search for 4G on wikipedia for more information
Yea just a little bummed I wont be able to access 4gLTE speeds in my atrix 4g... I was just misinformed when I bought the phone I guess. Goes to show you how much research you hablve to do in order to find out the truth. Is it possible to flash a 4GLTE radio to the atrix or are we "SOL"? our phones definitely don't lack the speed as the atrix still is up there with the brand new phones.
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The ITU declared AT&T's HSPA+ as 4G along with T-Mobile's HSPA+ and Verizon's LTE network. Prior to that, not even LTE or Wimax were considered 4G.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/hspa-now-officially-4g-according-to-itu/
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Yea just a little bummed I wont be able to access 4gLTE speeds in my atrix 4g... I was just misinformed when I bought the phone I guess. Goes to show you how much research you hablve to do in order to find out the truth. Is it possible to flash a 4GLTE radio to the atrix or are we "SOL"? our phones definitely don't lack the speed as the atrix still is up there with the brand new phones.
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We're SOL. My understanding is the hardware is different.
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Yea just a little bummed I wont be able to access 4gLTE speeds in my atrix 4g... I was just misinformed when I bought the phone I guess. Goes to show you how much research you hablve to do in order to find out the truth. Is it possible to flash a 4GLTE radio to the atrix or are we "SOL"? our phones definitely don't lack the speed as the atrix still is up there with the brand new phones.
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Consider this.............Atrix 4G is a cat 10 device. This means capable of 14.4Mbits/s down and 5.76Mbits/s up. The phone is not holding us back, the networks are. If they delivered enough bandwidth and coverage we would be able to utilize these speeds. Because they don't, we are stuck with what they give/throttle us at. In a nutshell, the Atrix is capable of A LOT more speed than our providers allow.
4G means nothing!!
4G doesn't mean anything anymore. None of these networks give the speeds that 4G was supposed to give. LTE Advanced is going to be the game changer in my eyes. http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/weinschenk/like-lte-you-aint-seen-nothin-yet/?cs=49064
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I have a question if it is possible to flash a radio that will allow the atrix 4g to access the 4g Lte network?? I just heard att is going to be adding their version of the so called 4g lte network to our area and I realize that now that my phone is not a true 4g phone more or less an upgraded version of 3g. Since I was under the impression I could access the lte network and now I know I can't I am wondering if there would be a way to flash a radio that would allow me to access the lte network. Thanks for any information guys and girls!!!
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There is no hardware for 4G LTE in the Atrix , so its a straight no. What u can see as flashing radio are nothing buy different drivers for the wireless radio modem.
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My rezound seems to go to 3G a lot! It has absolutely no issues with the hand off, it just seems to use 3G a lot more than it needs too. Anyone else notice this?
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sorry no, mine never goes to 3G period (unless i go somewhere that does not have 4G coverage).
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sorry no, mine never goes to 3G period (unless i go somewhere that does not have 4G coverage).
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Very odd, mine stays on 4g most of the time (houston is absolutely blanketed in 4g) but i do see 3g more than I did with the thunderbolt (this is just a feeling.)
Of course, there could have been network issues as well, who knows.
Mine stays on 4g unless I change to wi-fi.
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LTE 4G Rezound
you might live where there is more extended LTE than true coverage like me.
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My rezound seems to go to 3G a lot! It has absolutely no issues with the hand off, it just seems to use 3G a lot more than it needs too. Anyone else notice this?
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You might already know about it, but there is a free app in the Market called LTE OnOff. The app gives you more options with regards to LTE/3G. By default the phone is set to CDMA(3G) + LTE. With this option, it checks for availability and sets it appropriately. If you are in an area that the LTE is not really strong yet, that might be part of the reason it is switching so much. You could use the app to set it to LTE w/Voice option and see if it sticks with LTE better. I came from the Thunderbolt and had to use the app frequently as I was told having it set to the either/or option also used more battery because of the polling it would do to see what network it should be on. I am not sure if the battery concerns are still an issue with the Rezound. I know when I am trying to get more battery life from the phone, I set my to CDMA auto (PRL) so that it only uses 3G since the LTE can be a battery killer.
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You might already know about it, but there is a free app in the Market called LTE OnOff. The app gives you more options with regards to LTE/3G. By default the phone is set to CDMA(3G) + LTE. With this option, it checks for availability and sets it appropriately. If you are in an area that the LTE is not really strong yet, that might be part of the reason it is switching so much. You could use the app to set it to LTE w/Voice option and see if it sticks with LTE better. I came from the Thunderbolt and had to use the app frequently as I was told having it set to the either/or option also used more battery because of the polling it would do to see what network it should be on. I am not sure if the battery concerns are still an issue with the Rezound. I know when I am trying to get more battery life from the phone, I set my to CDMA auto (PRL) so that it only uses 3G since the LTE can be a battery killer.
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Thanks, I'm in Houston. It's a big city and we've had very strong 4g for a while now. My thunderbolt stays on 4G all day long.
Just curious, does anyone else's evo not connect to 4g unless they cycle 3g on and off? there is one area a few miles from my house and when i go up there (knowing there is solid 4g) my phone will stay on 3g the whole time im up there. now if im up there and cycle airplane mode or flip my internet on and off then it connects to 4g right away as soon as the radio turns on, no problem. Occasionally if i leave my phone in my pocket it will hop back to 3g but then it will stay there again until i flip off and on my internet and then like magic my 4g is back.
Does this happen to everyone else or is it just me? haha may just be the tower also considering im a little southwest of chicago and they haven't really officially launched per say.
It's a common problem with the EVO and HTC has not fixed it yet.
They better get to work as people are thinking the LTE network sucks. Compare it to a S3 side by side and it has no issues.
I still have my insurance and will keep it as when lte is available in my area I will be bringing my phone into the store over and over until they swap me out.
Love the EVO but if it sucks for using LTE then it has to go bye bye.
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Love the EVO but if it sucks for using LTE then it has to go bye bye.
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im quickly getting to that point. my wifes s3 and daughters iphone5 can hold an lte signal great. but this evo with the current radios just plain sucks.
sitting right next to each other my evo is rocking 1x, the s3 is bouncing between 3g and lte and the iphone is holding lte.
My phone finds LTE in MA but has problems with voice and won't text at all sometimes. Not sure whether that a problem with the network or phone.
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this is happening to me to i knew there was a tower right by me but no LTE connected so i changed the network settings to CDMA/LTE and held LTE until i left the area. I was getting only 1.5mbps which i think sucks for LTE. Its hard to stay what the issue it whether its the phone or actual software settings that maybe OTA can fix. Weird thing i noticed when i updated to the latest firmware is LTE only setting holds LTE and 1X, CDMA/LTE never picks up 3g so i just end up putting it back to stock settings. Really considering taking it back to compare to the store phones.
Having the same problem as well. It will connect to 4G on its own but it would take its sweet time. So the fastest way for me is toggle airplane mode. Hope it gets fixed soon.
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Having the same problem as well. It will connect to 4G on its own but it would take its sweet time. So the fastest way for me is toggle airplane mode. Hope it gets fixed soon.
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Many people think it is just the new network but in fact it is not. You quickly realize it when you have another LTE phone next to the EVO LTE that the EVO has a huge issue. We just all need to band together and stay on top of Sprint and HTC constantly bugging them until this issue is fixed. We done things like this before, but we all need to do it again to get this fixed ASAP!
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Many people think it is just the new network but in fact it is not. You quickly realize it when you have another LTE phone next to the EVO LTE that the EVO has a huge issue. We just all need to band together and stay on top of Sprint and HTC constantly bugging them until this issue is fixed. We done things like this before, but we all need to do it again to get this fixed ASAP!
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im starting to think this too that it might be the phone. OG Evo4g was never this slow on 3g and i had wimax in my house. Now i barely get 3g in my house and no LTE unless i drive down the road. It sucks not being able to pin point this. I tested it with another evo4g lte and they had similiar results as me...need to try another LTE non-evo4g phone next...
I made a thread about this last week-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1898433
I pretty much stuck myself between two towers which I knew were transmitting 4G but refused to cycle through airplane mode or LTE/CDMA and CDMA-only modes. I passed by both and the phone never switched over.
On the plus side, my phone did acquire a fairly weak 4G signal today on its own, so there may be some hope for this thing yet.
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Weird thing i noticed when i updated to the latest firmware is LTE only setting holds LTE and 1X, CDMA/LTE never picks up 3g so i just end up putting it back to stock settings.
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I’m confused, is there an LTE-only setting in the latest firmware, or are you talking about the option in the *#*#INFO#*#* (*#*#4636#*#*) menu? I’m honestly a little wary of using that since I’ve heard it can cause problems that only a factory reset can solve.
yeah the options ##DATA# or when using the elixir app under telephony.
Anyone having this issue needs to call Sprint and HTC and require them to open a ticket for the issue. This is the only way it will get fixed. I hear some are getting told that it is due to the new tower equipment. So you might need another LTE device to compare it to. Others are getting told there is an update coming soon. Others are getting told that the EVO has no issues.
It is obvious though, sprint has stopped pushing this phone. They don't even list it in their lte press releases.
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yeah the options ##DATA# or when using the elixir app under telephony.
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U can also use the network app from the play store. It switches radiobands without any of the ##etc errors.
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digiblur said:
Anyone having this issue needs to call Sprint and HTC and require them to open a ticket for the issue. This is the only way it will get fixed. I hear some are getting told that it is due to the new tower equipment. So you might need another LTE device to compare it to. Others are getting told there is an update coming soon. Others are getting told that the EVO has no issues.
It is obvious though, sprint has stopped pushing this phone. They don't even list it in their lte press releases.
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So they just list the S3 and nexus then? Because atm that's the only other phones w LTE.
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U can also use the network app from the play store. It switches radiobands without any of the ##etc errors.
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So they just list the S3 and nexus then? Because atm that's the only other phones w LTE.
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LG viper, google nexus, evolte, iphone5, and the s3 along with that tri network mifi they have
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can someone confirm changing your LTE scan timer to 60 increase speed and connection? changed mine and both increased...where i couldnt pickup or hold a LTE signal before
i tried 10 and 0 setting didnt seem to help
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can someone confirm changing your LTE scan timer to 60 increase speed and connection? changed mine and both increased...where i couldnt pickup or hold a LTE signal before
i tried 10 and 0 setting didnt seem to help
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Do we know what the values mean though? One would assume seconds but if you increased and got better results, it could mean something else.
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Do we know what the values mean though? One would assume seconds but if you increased and got better results, it could mean something else.
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At this point its worth a shot. I would test it but I don't have LTE close enough to me. The option that is just below LTE scan timer, BSR Max timer, I'm curious as to what that is.
roids87 said:
At this point its worth a shot. I would test it but I don't have LTE close enough to me. The option that is just below LTE scan timer, BSR Max timer, I'm curious as to what that is.
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From what I found googling it might mean Better Service Reselection. Just need to figure out what the values mean.
This may be a lame question, but if 4G becomes active in my area, is there anything i need to do? or will the 4G notification just turn on when a signal is detected?
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This may be a lame question, but if 4G becomes active in my area, is there anything i need to do? or will the 4G notification just turn on when a signal is detected?
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Its not lame, its how you learn. In theory, no.
There are settings for CDMA and LTE under the mobile networks area so assuming you are set to CDMA / LTE, running stock and you are close enough to a LTE tower you should switch to LTE automatically. If you search there are a number of tweaks and additional settings also available in case you aren't successful.
If you never change your mobile network mode from cdma/lte in your settings then it should automatically connect if you ever get lte in your city.
The above posters answered the question, but if you would like to know more about when LTE might be available in your area head on over to www.s4gru.com
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The above posters answered the question, but if you would like to know more about when LTE might be available in your area head on over to www.s4gru.com
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so i don't really know alot about the CDMA/LTE stuff... but on the original Evo the 4G was on the CDMA network correct? The New EVO just has 4G on the LTE network? Meaning if i was able to pick up 4G in my area with the original EVO i won't be able to get 4G with my new EVO LTE until they add LTE in the area?
am I understanding this correct?
Correct, 4g was on the wimax network, now 4g is lte. Wimax is still available, it will eventually be phased out.
That sucks... I live in bumf so doubt I'll have LTE anytime soon... But at least this phone is still awesome
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I have gone back and forth a couple times now. I ran the RUU to go to 4.3 Android (Htc official side loaded RUU) and I live in the Los Angeles area. My signal is absolutely ridiculous. Updated radios, current version of HBOOT and other drivers, I hoped that I would pick up 4g LTE in my area because the sprint coverage map shows that my location has it available for the EvoLTE. Going back to my device I am having 2G Edge and the slowest 3G of my life!
Has this been happening to you guys as well?
I made sure to select LTE/CDMA for my antenna options but no change.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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I have gone back and forth a couple times now. I ran the RUU to go to 4.3 Android (Htc official side loaded RUU) and I live in the Los Angeles area. My signal is absolutely ridiculous. Updated radios, current version of HBOOT and other drivers, I hoped that I would pick up 4g LTE in my area because the sprint coverage map shows that my location has it available for the EvoLTE. Going back to my device I am having 2G Edge and the slowest 3G of my life!
Has this been happening to you guys as well?
I made sure to select LTE/CDMA for my antenna options but no change.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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Personally, I'd call Sprint and complain. That being said, it's a kind of well known fact that the EVO LTE's don't always have the best reception. ie two people in the same location with Sprint service, one on the EVO LTE, the other with a different device. The other person gets 4g LTE and the EVO user doesn't.
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Personally, I'd call Sprint and complain. That being said, it's a kind of well known fact that the EVO LTE's don't always have the best reception. ie two people in the same location with Sprint service, one on the EVO LTE, the other with a different device. The other person gets 4g LTE and the EVO user doesn't.
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I can tell you from experience that Sprint doesn't seem to care if your service is crappy. Your best bet is to go with a carrier with better coverage. I was with Sprint for 10+ years.