does anyone know of any roms out there designed to turn an outdated or lowend android phone into a PMP/MP3 player? i know they already have the capacity to play media, but i can't help but wonder if battery/performance would be better if you trashed all the cellphone parts of android and designed a UI just for media playback.
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pyro42 said:
does anyone know of any roms out there designed to turn an outdated or lowend android phone into a PMP/MP3 player? i know they already have the capacity to play media, but i can't help but wonder if battery/performance would be better if you trashed all the cellphone parts of android and designed a UI just for media playback.
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For starters, you could put the phone in airplane mode.
A little bit more work: root and freeze or remove all the Apps you don't want/need. Particularly bloatware and other apps that include a service, things that auto-run on start.
electricpete1 said:
For starters, you could put the phone in airplane mode.
A little bit more work: root and freeze or remove all the Apps you don't want/need. Particularly bloatware and other apps that include a service, things that auto-run on start.
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well airplane mode would knock out wifi as well, but yes, some ROM's allow you to just turn off the data connection. you'd obviously do well to start with a clean rom is possible instead of stock. but i was hoping someone'd started a little more of a complete solution.
pyro42 said:
well airplane mode would knock out wifi as well, but yes, some ROM's allow you to just turn off the data connection. you'd obviously do well to start with a clean rom is possible instead of stock. but i was hoping someone'd started a little more of a complete solution.
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Can't you disable 3g data under settings?
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pyro42 said:
well airplane mode would knock out wifi as well
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I can see why you might want wifi for downloads or data transfer, but of course that’s not what you asked for (“just for media playback”)
I'm pretty sure there are easy ways to turn off data and phone radios without turning off wifi.
I think you just turn airplane mode on first and then turn wifi on after that.
I just tried it and it seems to work on my phone (afterwards I could access internet via wifi but my phone dialer wouldn't dial out)
If for some reason that doesn't work for you, google airplane mode wifi tool
pyro42 said:
i was hoping someone'd started a little more of a complete solution.
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I haven’t heard of custom roms designed to reduce the capabilities of the phone.
But if that's what you've got your mind set on, go for it. It doesn't hurt to ask.
Good luck
pyro42 said:
does anyone know of any roms out there designed to turn an outdated or lowend android phone into a PMP/MP3 player? i know they already have the capacity to play media, but i can't help but wonder if battery/performance would be better if you trashed all the cellphone parts of android and designed a UI just for media playback.
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I am wondering the same thing. I have AT&T's first Android, the Backflip.... that I use as an mp3 player (an expensive one.. lol) and it is running the CM7 rom. I would love to wipe it and have a simple interface that is purely an mp3 player as you said. Putting it in airplane mode, shutting off 3g, deleting bloatware (if ur running stock) are all great ideas.... but I have CM7 stripped down to the bare (no Gapps, no accounts ,etc) and I STILL would like to turn it into a pure stand alone mp3 player with ext memory and amazing battery life. The phone is small (unless you flip it open) so it would be great for it! Was hoping maybe someone got bored since the last reply on here and came up with something. It "seems" like it would be fairly easy since there isn't much to create.... but to have the phone "boot" into just an mp3 UI does actually sound kind of complicated from my small knowledge of Android.
P.S. I have upgraded 5 or 6 times for myself and everyone in my group, so this Backflip serves no "phone" purpose. Would be perfect..
Very interesting idea. Would like to know info on this as well. I've been thinking how to repurpose my old cell phones and this could work.
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Optimus v would be great
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Not a ROM, But a good solution,
Hey guys. So, It's not a specific ROM for mp3 player-ness, But here's what I did with CM7 on my HTC Evo 4G
- Downloaded a media player app with a full screen widget (PlayerPro or WinAmp should od the trick)
- Set the 4x4 widget as my homescreen, and eliminate the rest of the screens.
- Remove lockscreen and security (or you can use WidgetLocker and put a smaller widget as your lock screen)
- I remapped my 4 Froyo Android buttons (Home, Back, Menu, Search) as MP3 player centric buttons. (pause, play, forward, backward, mute, etc... you can do whatever you want) using ButtonRemapper.
- To top it all off, I use Juice Defender to kill network connectivity, cell connectivity, etc... I purchased the Ultimate version for complete root access features. I keep wifi and bluetooth available for stuff (like connecting to by bluetooth stereo)
So, yeah. Battery still isn't amazing, but it is better. And I don't think there's a ton that can be done about that, the screen is, and will always be, the juice hog. even though it's not a dedicated rom, it works pretty well. I'm lucky that the EVO has such a huge developement community. If you have a less popular phone, you might be SOL with some of these features.
Hope this helps a little. I'm not really a developer, I just love finding new, interesting ways of customizing my phones
I started a how to on this ..
check out my forum post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2644588 it's pretty much what your original question was about.
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Hi there,
Up until a few weeks ago, I was an iPhone user, but never really enjoyed it that much. I got myself a SGS2 with Telstra, so far network and phone have been alright. Downloads at around 8.6MB consistently.
My phone specs are as follows:
Model: GT-I8100T
Version: 2.3.3
Baseband: I9100TDVKF2
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-I9100TDVKF4-CL301812 [email protected] #2
Build number: Gingerbread.DVKF4
1)
I am new to all this and would like to understand more about what all the above actually means. Does anyone have a tutorial or link explaining it all?
2)
I have heard about "rooting" your phone. Can someone either tell me or direct me to somewhere that can outline what rooting is, why someone would do it and what are its advantages and disadvantages?
3)
There are things about this phone I cannot stand:
The browser always crashes (so I have replaced with with Dolphin HD).
You cant turn of Camera snapshot sound.
When ever i unplug earphones and plug them back in the media volume automatically decreases.
The stock media player does a terrible job at being good, moved to winamp (are there any better ones, perhaps a rip of the iphone music player?).
Battery Life is terrible (if I use GPS guidance, phone would be lucky to last a day).
I find that the phone takes a long time to "load media from sd card" is that normal? (I have a class 4 mini sd 32gb).
Last of all, Facebook for android runs terribly on this phone. Can't upload photos, or even view my own. I can't work out why. Tried reinstalling.
I thank you in advance for any help or links you can provide me with.
Cheers.
have a read of this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
it was a sticky thread on the same page..
Anything you actually like about the phone?? All your hatreds are solvable, search away.
I'd lose the supertorrents invite sharpish if I were you, or the mods may move you... check the forum rules.
SamsungS2Tal said:
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There are things about this phone I cannot stand:
The browser always crashes (so I have replaced with with Dolphin HD).
You cant turn of Camera snapshot sound.
When ever i unplug earphones and plug them back in the media volume automatically decreases.
The stock media player does a terrible job at being good, moved to winamp (are there any better ones, perhaps a rip of the iphone music player?).
Battery Life is terrible (if I use GPS guidance, phone would be lucky to last a day).
I find that the phone takes a long time to "load media from sd card" is that normal? (I have a class 4 mini sd 32gb).
Last of all, Facebook for android runs terribly on this phone. Can't upload photos, or even view my own. I can't work out why. Tried reinstalling.
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I can't say I ever noticed the stock Samsung browser crashing on my device.
If you are rooted, you can permanently disable the camera noise by renaming the shutter sound ogg file in /system/media/audio/ui. Rename it to .ogg.bak and it should stop the noise.
I liked the stock media player but there are other popular music players like PowerAmp. Or even the music player from the MIUI ROM.
Welcome to smart phones. Battery life sucks. Get the official extended battery, root the phone, remove some bloat, install a custom kernel like SpeedMod. Also check Kies to see if your carrier has released an update for your phone. Android 2.3.3 is old and not very battery friendly.
I have a class 10 SD card and it doesn't take long to load at all.
Facebook for Android has always sucked but I have never had any problem with photos.
cholywell said:
I can't say I ever noticed the stock Samsung browser crashing on my device.
If you are rooted, you can permanently disable the camera noise by renaming the shutter sound ogg file in /system/media/audio/ui. Rename it to .ogg.bak and it should stop the noise.
I liked the stock media player but there are other popular music players like PowerAmp. Or even the\
Welcome to smart phones. Battery life sucks. Get the official extended battery, root the phone, remove some bloat, install a custom kernel like SpeedMod. Also check Kies to see if your carrier has released an update for your phone. Android 2.3.3 is old and not very battery friendly.
I have a class 10 SD card and it doesn't take long to load at all.
Facebook for Android has always sucked but I have never had any problem with photos.
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Thanks for the replies, been reading up a lot the last couple of hours.
Just a few questions for you:
1)
What exactly constitutes "bloat"? My phone comes with a few Telstra (my provider) apps like news bulletins, navigon (with free maps in AUS), but are there processors behind the scenes that I can't see that really slow it down that much?
2)
When you say "install a custom Kernal" I am not sure I understand entirely. I read the thread posted above, but is installing a different kernel the same as installing a new ROM? Do some ROMS include different Kernels? Do I need a new/different rom (from the stock) in order to install new kernels? Please explain in basic terms. I am guessing I need to root the phone in order to install kernels. By installing kernels, am I losing anything on my phone?
Thanks.
SamsungS2Tal said:
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I have heard about "rooting" your phone. Can someone either tell me or direct me to somewhere that can outline what rooting is, why someone would do it and what are its advantages and disadvantages?
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Consider rooting as jailbreak. Normally you don't have root access privileges on OS. But some programs or you yourself need to have root access to change something on OS.
SamsungS2Tal said:
The browser always crashes (so I have replaced with with Dolphin HD).
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Never faced this, which website?
SamsungS2Tal said:
Battery Life is terrible (if I use GPS guidance, phone would be lucky to last a day).
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Unlike iOS, android supports various hardwares, phones, tablets etc. iOS supports only the hardware used by apple. Therefore all unnecessary code has been pulled off from kernel and OS. That's why it feels faster and battery friendly.
In android there are some tricks to save your battery. Be patient and keep reading the forum, you'll learn in time
SamsungS2Tal said:
I find that the phone takes a long time to "load media from sd card" is that normal? (I have a class 4 mini sd 32gb).
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It depends on how many files you have on that storage, and yes it's annoying. However you can disable it with like this https://market.android.com/details?id=com.addz.mediascannerroot
SamsungS2Tal said:
Last of all, Facebook for android runs terribly on this phone. Can't upload photos, or even view my own. I can't work out why. Tried reinstalling.
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Never used it but seems app related. Blame facebook for the app, not your phone.
NEW HERE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134290
Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
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Looks great so far. The Home launcher is much more responsive so I can do away with ADW EX for now.
Kind of wish there were more small apps, but browser, calculator and IR remote are great choices for those and they work terrifically.
What do you guys think so far?
hogaburger said:
Looks great so far. The Home launcher is much more responsive so I can do away with ADW EX for now.
Kind of wish there were more small apps, but browser, calculator and IR remote are great choices for those and they work terrifically.
What do you guys think so far?
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When is 4.0.4 coming!!! :-D, so far so good on my end, seems more responsive. WIFI seems to stay on and work a lot better.
Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
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jbatch said:
Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
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Just tested Play Store, no issue for me.
jbatch said:
Upgraded to ics and my play store keeps crashing. Tried clearing cache and data, then it runs for about 5 min and crashes again...anyone else having similar issues?
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Uninstall from settings and go in as market... That fixed it for me...
The tablet was initially very laggy after the update but a reboot seemed to fix things, with the exception of the notification menu. It stutters very noticeably and is extremely annoying. Many apps also don't rotate properly anymore.
Still better than Honeycomb despiute those drawbacks.
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DAMN YOU SONY!!!
Things i hate:
- this annoying wifi keepalive issue is still there!!! there is no way to keep wifi active during standby -.- damned why don't they let us users the choice... there IS an option to set the standby behavior but its still completely useless....
- sometimes there are widget issues (doesn't matter if 3rd party or preinstalled) that widgets change into editor mode when just pressing a button like update... changing screen ang going back will fix this temporarily... had this 2 times now...
- auto brigtness issue still not resolved... in low light the screen is MUCH too dark and when changing from full brightess to automatic it keeps full for a while and then goes down to min
- homescreen lag is still too much in portrait
- forced portrait is still not changable (damn i'm righthanded and want to hold it on the ROUND side when portrait is forced!!!!)
- the new ICS launcher... Sonys previous own launcher had a better overview with the sorting possibilities but ok we can have folders now...
- still no thumb keyboard -.-
things i like:
- media from SD card is now directly available and nut just for transfer... finally i have enough memory also without root and mounting stuff ^^
- the new mini-apps are nice but there is still much potential for more apps
- the new version of "Favorites" App is very nice animated and faster
- ICS possibility to deactivate system apps that are not removable... finally i get this google music player away
- a few other ICS related things...
ALL IN ALL this update is a big disappointement... they updated to ICS, integrated one or thwo new features and that's it??? all the big issues are still there since more than six months!!!!!
I have personally had a fantastic experience with the ICS update. Everything seems faster across the board. Menus more responsive, faster browser, better keyboard response/feedback. I also like the ICS look and feel and the mini apps. Really happy with the update so far.
I used to be able to DL directly to my SD Card, and using ES File Manager to move files around. Now it refuses to do so. Anyone else having this issue? If not, what file manager are you using?
My tablet seems to have gone really slow after the ICS update.
I tried a factory restore to ensure that I didnt have too many things installed and decided to start afresh. Didnt help. The tablet is still very slow. While the touch is responsive and I like the features of ICS like slide to dismiss, reading files directly from SD card etc, I definitely donot like the amount of lag I am noticing.
All my apps seem to be really really slow.
My Honeycomb seemed to be far more faster irrespective of all the issues that it had.
Any suggestions anyone?? I am on non rooted US version 16Gb Wifi.
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My tablet seems to have gone really slow after the ICS update.
I tried a factory restore to ensure that I didnt have too many things installed and decided to start afresh. Didnt help. The tablet is still very slow. While the touch is responsive and I like the features of ICS like slide to dismiss, reading files directly from SD card etc, I definitely donot like the amount of lag I am noticing.
All my apps seem to be really really slow.
My Honeycomb seemed to be far more faster irrespective of all the issues that it had.
Any suggestions anyone?? I am on non rooted US version 16Gb Wifi.
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Have you tried going into Settings > Developer Options and tick "Force GPU rendering"?
I'm thinking of buying the sony tablet s. I've read on various reviews that this tablet's battery life is not that impressive (Honeycomb0, is that true? And btw how is the battery life after the ics update? Is there any improvement?
someone can connect tablet with PC on MTP usb
i tried many times but i couldn't
ics update
i havent played around much since the update but the little time i did spend with my tab i found it more responsive and smoother.... i am liking the ics update... dont know why others having issues but i think we should give it a couple of days so that all issues are ironed out....
taruu said:
someone can connect tablet with PC on MTP usb
i tried many times but i couldn't
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On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
pokoedge said:
On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
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i'm steel keeping connection but nothing happened
should i try to reinstall drivers forcibly?
I don't understand the problems with wifi-keep-alive.There a apps in the playstore to force this. It worked well for me in Honeycomb.
Same with a thumb-keyboard.
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taruu said:
i'm steel keeping connection but nothing happened
should i try to reinstall drivers forcibly?
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pokoedge said:
On the first time, it took a while to show up as windows tried to reinstall the drivers for the tablet. Maybe you should keep it connected on USB and wait for a while and see if it shows up?
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sorry, i found it
i just reboot the tablet s and connect again
then it works
macmeier said:
I don't understand the problems with wifi-keep-alive.There a apps in the playstore to force this. It worked well for me in Honeycomb.
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The problem with that app from the market is that it keeps the device awake when you turn off the screen, and it eats through the battery.
On the Android phones I've used (Legend, Desire, Arc S), the WiFi remained connected, but the phone also went to sleep, battery drain was minimal.
This is the behaviour we were expecting to see in the ICS update, but unfortunately it hasn't been fixed...
Hey, i have a 3g tablet, because that i have to wait for upgrading.
But i have an important question for hifi guys: What is with the IR-Remote app...
Are there any changes to the App on Honeycomb?
I bought the tablet for controlling my homecinema an know i want to know if we get makros in the IR-Remote app?
pls check it and give a response to me
I've tried ALL custom ROMs for Titan and also tried up to the latest Tango build of stock.
One key difference I've noticed is even though all the homebrew goodness and customisation are plus points with custom ROMs, those extra features do not make up for the stability we get with stock ROM.
I was put into a few embarrassing situations using custom ROMs when I've tried to show off extra features I had on my phone! Whereas things as simple as "I can't share by bluetooth, but let me share the whole folder with you over SkyDrive" - has worked smooth like butter on stock ROM!
Still craving few excellent features like screenshots app and bazaar when I rolled back to stock ROM this week. However, not a single random behaviour, no wifi issues, no battery issues etc.
Has anyone else found their experience more pleasurable on stock than current available custom ROMs? Of course, not functionality wise as all custom ROMs being unlocked unleash a great amount of functions.
I'm on Dynamics7 atm.
So far, the phone does sometimes not respond to touch input unless I press the power button to put it into lockscreen and unlock - this however happens rarely. That's also about any issue I'm having with the phone, except for the still annoying HTC Update notification that springs up every time I connect it to Zune.
Wi-Fi and battery are both no areas of problems for me.
+1 on the OP. One thing that stands out for me is not able to save / download music from Spotify for offline listening I've a premium account and this is my main music source. I tried it all the custom roms without success. ATM I'm sticking with custom rom, currently using eburon v1.6, because of I like the ability to sideload xaps from phone browser.
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I'm on Dynamics7 atm.
So far, the phone does sometimes not respond to touch input unless I press the power button to put it into lockscreen and unlock - this however happens rarely. That's also about any issue I'm having with the phone, except for the still annoying HTC Update notification that springs up every time I connect it to Zune.
Wi-Fi and battery are both no areas of problems for me.
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Have you noticed any difference between the scroll speeds? Where custom roms "feel" a little heavier on scroll whereas stocks are fluid?
habnzrot said:
+1 on the OP. One thing that stands out for me is not able to save / download music from Spotify for offline listening I've a premium account and this is my main music source. I tried it all the custom roms without success. ATM I'm sticking with custom rom, currently using eburon v1.6, because of I like the ability to sideload xaps from phone browser.
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I miss sideload and homebrew goodiness but then it stays solid and smooth with stock so found it nicer to show my phone to others!
ZetaZynK said:
I'm on Dynamics7 atm.
So far, the phone does sometimes not respond to touch input unless I press the power button to put it into lockscreen and unlock - this however happens rarely. That's also about any issue I'm having with the phone, except for the still annoying HTC Update notification that springs up every time I connect it to Zune.
Wi-Fi and battery are both no areas of problems for me.
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I had some behaviour with the touch input as you have with all ROMs expect Eburon. I am on Eburon 1.6 and everything works perfect:laugh:
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Have you noticed any difference between the scroll speeds? Where custom roms "feel" a little heavier on scroll whereas stocks are fluid?
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Hm, I couldn't tell so. It works fine other than the issue I mentioned above, lockWidgets not working, the MMS voice message recording option producing white noise and the geolocation icon not showing.
However, I also did some registry changes, for instance I reverted the dehydration settings to the stock value - maybe this setting causes other issues aside from a higher power consumption for some?
For me it is the complete opposite. Although I don't use the Spotify nor do I share files via bluetooth (which you couldn't do on stock), I have not experienced any issues outside of the annoying HTC update when connect to Zune.
In fact, on stock, I experienced scroll lag issues, video streaming issues, phone randomly locking up for 5 - 10 sec, prisoned by AT&T and etc. I am using Dynamics 1.7 ROM since July 3rd. Everything works as it should and very smoothly. I will try the Spotify app to see if I have any issues (but I'm s Zune subscriber don't really need it).
I'm sure you've tried, but if not, maybe try a re-flash or even re-download, then re-flash.
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For me it is the complete opposite. Although I don't use the Spotify nor do I share files via bluetooth (which you couldn't do on stock), I have not experienced any issues outside of the annoying HTC update when connect to Zune.
In fact, on stock, I experienced scroll lag issues, video streaming issues, phone randomly locking up for 5 - 10 sec, prisoned by AT&T and etc. I am using Dynamics 1.7 ROM since July 3rd. Everything works as it should and very smoothly. I will try the Spotify app to see if I have any issues (but I'm s Zune subscriber don't really need it).
I'm sure you've tried, but if not, maybe try a re-flash or even re-download, then re-flash.
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yup, tried that without success... I'm starting to think that this some kind of anti piracy thing that spotify put in place mainly with windows phone because with my rooted ios and android devices I can still download songs for offline listening.
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It could well be correct. But then so far out of all custom ROMs I've tried the latest WPV v3.1 seems to have corrected all the flaws. It works as smooth as stock but with all the homebrew goodies that fill the gaps. I have Zune pass and it doesn't have any issues even on unlocked ROMs. If it had something to do with piracy i.e. unlocked ROM, I would have thought Zune pass will be the first one to act weird. But then again, all Spotify and Zune should care about is DRM content. They surely aren't bothered or won't check state of interop etc.
Installed CM10-20121205 and the latest GApps. Did not restore any apps or data using Titanium. Flashed to s-off using DirtyRacun method.
Wiped System->Factory Wipe->Installed CM10 Rom->Installed GApps->Rebooted
Alright, so I did all of that and everything seems to be working fine. However I still feel as though the phone is behaving just as badly as it used to with regards to multi-tasking. I'll give two examples with my favorite browser (Dolphin) and music player (Poweramp).
The browser issue I don't think is anything the folks here won't be familiar with. Use browser, exit browser for a bit, return to browser only to have to reload all pages/tabs. Annoying...
My next example involves the Poweramp widget. I listen to a lot of MP3s that call for a functioning bookmarking feature. I like/need to be able to resume tracks where I left off when pausing, putting the device to sleep for later use. When resuming a track by going to the Poweramp app ->Now Playing->Unpause it resumes just fine. If I unpause from the widget on one of my home screens it almost ALWAYS restarts the track from the beginning. This happens with both long (4 hour) mp3s and short songs (2-3 minutes).
Perhaps someone could explain why that's happening? It doesn't appear after about a day of use that the phone is any "better" for multi-tasking. I've heard input from some folks describing this as unusual and others saying that Android is just sort of like that. I don't know. I just sort of got it in my head after hearing so many people complain about how this phone (Sense) handles multi-tasking that I thought flashing to a new rom would fix the problem.
If this is a case of lofty expectations it would be super to know. That way I don't go flashing to a hundred different roms to fix a problem that isn't technically considered a problem by anyone other than myself.
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Second question! I've had no trouble using most every app that requires SU permissions (Titanium BU notably). However I've noticed that I am constantly having to grant SU permissions to apps even when I tell SU to remember my preference to allow. I've also not been able to get Wireless Tether OR WiFi Tether for Root Users to work correctly. I tried FoxFi and that seems to work just fine but doesn't require root (and costs money for the good version.
Any input would be vastly appreciated. Thanks!
Edit: I didn't see the "Is this post a question?" icon before posting this thread. I do apologize! Any input on this matter would be greatly appreciated. This forum and its community have been invaluable up to this point in my making my phone my own!
Just flashed over the MeanRom ICS and having the same problem.
I don't have that many widgets. Weather widget not on my home screen, power settings widget, power amp, and Google Search.
Wireless and WiFi Tether not working. Perhaps there's something wrong with how I rooted my phone? However, I ran a "root checker" app that came out okay, and my phone says s-off when in recovery mode.
It sounds like you have too many apps installed that run as services and are hogging memory. You can use an app like OS Monitor to see what's still active in memory and how much it's using up.
Just tried using the McTweaker Root app cynic method to fix multi-tasking and it unfortunately still seems broken. :/ I'm at a total loss.
xHausx said:
It sounds like you have too many apps installed that run as services and are hogging memory. You can use an app like OS Monitor to see what's still active in memory and how much it's using up.
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Tested this theory but it doesn't really hold water. I'm not running that many apps all things considered, and I was having this problem when it was fairly app free...
Oi vey this is frustrating. I've spent the better part of a long ass time.
There is an issue with the latest list so don't copy it completely. I got a bootloop after restarting my phone today and I had to factory reset... this is as of 10/8/16 at 12:50pm. The list from the 5th of October on back should be fine. I'm currently trying to sort out the issue.
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Here is a list of apps and services which can be disabled on the Note 7 while still maintaining stability; Data, Calling, Texting, MMS, Wi-Fi, Tethering, Bluetooth, GPS, Sync, Camera, EQ, HD Calling, Always On and all the S-Pen features work, but most other things are turned off like Fingerprint, Iris, NFC, Edge Panel, Pay Services, etc... This list isn't meant to be copied exactly by everyone because we all use our devices differently but you can pick and choose what you want to get the optimal performance from your device.
As of 10/6/16 I have 180+ apps and services disabled and today I got over 8 hours of SOT with 11% battery left (over 9 hours projected of SOT based on the days' usage). I didn't use any power saving modes and kept my brightness at a reasonable level so using the device was easy and not annoying due to the brightness being so low. I had location and sync enabled and wasn't doing any unnatural things trying to squeeze out as much battery life as I could. This was real world usage with all the necessary features and background processes running so using the device felt natural and functional. I say this so people don't think I fudged these numbers by doing things like letting my phone sit with the screen on while at the lowest brightness and not using it, or that I was using some power saving modes to squeeze out as much life as possible. My phone ran at full power all day. I've never even toggled power saving mode on my phone before.
Due to XDA's limit on the amount of image uploads I'm going to create two post with the complete list of disabled apps and link them here in the OP.
I'm using EZ Package Disabler (Samsung) from the play store to disable these apps and services. I bought that one because it had the highest rating.
Below here are some updates I posted during the process of figuring out what to disable. The post with the latest date is always going to have the most current and relevant information.
9/30/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68930083&postcount=16
10/2/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68950934&postcount=23
10/3/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972097&postcount=26 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972131&postcount=27
10/5/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68999679&postcount=33
[UNSTABLE something in this list caused me to bootloop]10/6/16 - 184 Disabled Apps & Services List Part 1 Here and Part 2 Here XML Export File List Here
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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tonymy01 said:
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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Actually, most of the features are still there. I bought it for the S-pen features and all that is still there. Did you go through the list and see what I turned off or are you just replying to reply? If you read my OG post you'd see I said that my goal was to keep the functionality of the device.
This phone is loaded with bloat and useless services and apps that most will never use. All these things can cause battery drain, cpu usage, ram usage, hardware heat, among other things. So why not turn off what is not needed? It doesn't matter how much ram the phone has, why run stuff that doesn't need to run since you aren't using it?
Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, Samsung cloud (much more useful than Google backup as it supports call logs, sms and other recoveries), the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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tonymy01 said:
Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Like I said, I bought it for the S-pen features. What I disabled I don't use and have no use for. Also If I want to use them at any time I can just reenable them. So let's go through your list. Fingerprint, I use swipe or a pin or a pattern. S-health, I use google fit, or nothing since I don't need a smartphone to tell me how to be fit. Android pay, I use cash. Software updating, if I want an update I can manually grab it, I don't need a service running constantly checking for them. Iris scanner, it's stupid and I'll never use it. Gmail, I use inbox and Alto. Standard email, I only have gmail accounts so don't need other email services. Game launcher, I don't play games. Emergency Alerts, seriously? You are just looking for things to justify your post, EA's are useless and annoying when they pop up and have never benefited me once. Car mode, I have no use for it since I drive a 2000 windstar minivan and waze provides me with all I need in a car. Also, you didn't name one thing that makes this phone great but rather things that are basically on all Android's. Again, I bought the phone for the S-pen, all that is still there. Why are you even doing this? your post are as useless as the apps and services I disabled.
Troll flushed where it belongs. Goodbye, no need to be so rude about it.
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It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
bonerp said:
It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
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Totally agree. I will try testing N7 when I get mine. First factory reset it out of the box (maybe get the update first then factory reset it with recovery). After that set it up keep all apps and see how battery is... the try the disabler I loke to debloat because phone looks much more cleaner then. And any debloat list is totally personal that why I used TB on my rooted devices, this time won't rush to root
Just disable the damn phone, turn it off and stop using it lol
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Why all the hate?
I really don't get when people post about disabling certain features that others get upset. Or use power saver, etc.
This is one of the great things about Android, the ability to customize and mod our phones to our liking. Try doing any of these things with an Iphone, you can't. So this particular user wants to disable Gmail and messages because he uses other services (Inbox is awesome). He reports back that things still seem stable? Great! I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
Let's talk about the great features we have, which include the ability to replace core apps if we desire. Don't jump on someone for doing so.
A mouse running into a room at a party doesn't cause chaos, how people react to it does. We are all responsible for our own actions. You don't like how someone else customizes their phone, who cares? Move on to the next post.
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jmitr said:
Why all the hate? I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
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Used the phone very heavy today and ran into no real issues. I had to reenable one service because I tried to use the built-in EQ and it made settings crash. I was able to find the cause in less than a minute and reenable it The service that needs to run for the EQ to work is "SoundAlive" on page 8.
Also got 2.75 hours of SOT and 3 hours of gps use and was right at 50% battery left. At the end of tomorrow I'm going to post some screenshots.
Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
Mdizzle1 said:
Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
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No problem. I plan on trying to get more added to the list. Once I know what I've added so far is safe and doesn't cause any issues I'll slowly add more.
I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
Smithfolk4 said:
I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
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I've done another day of heavy use today and I'm very happy with my results. I had over 3 hours of SOT using auto brightness which stayed on max brightness most of the time since I was outside and I still had over 40% (I estimate I was on track to get very close to 6 hours SOT with max auto brightness!!!) battery left when I got home. I also used GPS for about an hour along with installing app, and constantly doing other stuff on the phone. I'm going to update the OP with some more screenshots. But from these past two full days of very heavy use and no force closes or issues to speak of (other than having to turn SoundAlive back on for the EQ to work) I'm going to say what I've disabled so far is safe and causes no dependency issues. Also, the phone runs very smooth and doesn't get hot at all. Even today with basically 3 straight hours of SOT and max auto brightness the phone never heated up.
Oh! I'm at 101 things disabled now (not including my downloaded disabled apps) which is how I ran it all day today. More to come! Once I feel like I've found everything I can disable safely I'll do a new updated OP with all I found.
9/30/16 screenshots just showing some battery and cpu use stats. In the future I'm going to add some temp stats. If anyone has a good app for monitoring temps let me know even if it's paid. I don't mind buying apps that are good and useful.
Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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I've always hated automation. I can't stand things running without my permission! I've had all startup programs on windows disabled since 2003 Back in the day on Windows XP I got my active running services in task manager to below 20. I'm now at 101 things disabled on the note 7 and I know there is a ton more I can turn off but I'm going about things slowly. I've confirmed that the 101 things I've turned off so far are safe and the phone definitely runs better in every way.
As far as the ram theories and myths about Android it's mostly people repeating their misunderstandings. Of course if you are using the apps in the ram a lot it's good for them to be there because they will load faster but if you are never using those apps and services and they are still sitting in your ram then it's not productive and a waste of resources which will cause the phone to not run optimally. These phones (and computers) come preloaded with tons of stuff running because they are targeted at the average user and not at the power/informed users. Anyone who knows much of anything about computers and how they are setup from the factory knows they are not configured for performance but rather a balance between performance and usability. Of course Android is getting better and better at managing apps and putting them to sleep but there still is nothing better than completely disabling things you don't need and will never use and thereby freeing up resources you can use for things you are actually using...wow! what a concept, have resources there to use for things you actually use! Genius! People seem to act like having ram full just for the sake of having it full is a good thing in Android when that is completely false. Even Android likes to have resources free that it can use for other things.
142 disabled apps and services
So I'm now sitting at 142 things disabled. I'm going to run my current setup for a couple days and see how it goes. I'll report back the results. Hopefully in a week or so I'll have a full list of what can be turned off without having issues.
Looking forward to your end results. Thank You for sharing your experience debloating.