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*update, the conclusion is that the current software is useless and as of the ppc6800 and the following HTC models, the IRDA port is either crap or non-existent, for that reason I am building a powered, universal adapter to turn any phone into a remote*
hello. first off, yes I know there are old threads about this, but they are dead and had a different take on this topic. I am looking to know if anyone has gotten any tv remote control software working on the mogul. I don't care about the distance so I dont want to hear about how the mogul is ill-equipped to do this, I just want to know what software works as I will use\make a IR repeater\booster that will give me all the range I need.
I have tried the following software
1-PDAWin tv remote controller simply crashes when I press any button
2- noviiRemote is not compatible with our IR
3- RemoteControl II v.2.12 stays it is incompatible with our processor and for that reason, it turns off the IR access... but the rest of the software works ??? odd
4- UniversalRemoteCE 4.0 Tested by wagonis, froze his phone with every try
5- Total Remote does not work, freezes when I try to record a signal.
Untested
6- UltraMote
can't find
7- VITO remote
so to recap. Has anyone found a working software? I will give a free IR booster\repeater to anyone who can point me to a proper and working programmable universal remote control software that works over IR and not the web (or even better, anyone who can get PDAWin tv remote working )
thanks.
Honestly, I've tried 4 different softwares from that list and none worked, if anything they kept crashing my phone...so I gave up before I caused any damage to my phone. If you figure out which one works though, please list it, I'd like to know and try it.
can I know which was teh 4th that did not work so I can update my list please?
UniversalRemoteCE 4.0 froze up my phone every time I tried to use it
Many have tried. I am pretty sure no one has succeeded.
in my best Airplane - The Movie voice
"good luck, we're all counting on you"
my best suggestion is to buy an older known compatible phone with stronger irda
i looked into it a bit ago and came up with a good solution and found two of the phones on ebay for $20...but never bought them
i know it would be convenient to use our daily cell for this feature...but its an uphill battle
dont give up...lol
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Since the whole software thing does not seem to work... I am going to set out on making my own! My goal is to make a universal-universal remote app; even cross-platform, and the way I will do this is with external hardware. Since most new phones do not have a good IR port, I will make an external IR port that plugs into phones, mark my words!
I will keep people up to date on this
I'll subscribe to this thread to keep tabs on this. Good luck.
Well I am very excited to say that things are moving along nicely. Unfortunately, my local electronics supply shop (that is actually worth going to) is closed during weekends since its a small business who's main clients are engineering students during the year . This means that My full prototype (with range booster) will have to wait, but the basic premise is working, and, depending on my schedule, I should have a working prototype soon. I have already gotten in contact with a few chinese companies to compare the price of production of the modules.
well, the project is coming along well, but I need some input from the community. 1 is a note, 2 is the important question.
1- the software will be open source. The exact format still has to be determined, but the main lead right now is java so that i can be universal for all phones (except the Iphone that will need its own app).
2- Should it be powered or not? The module is coming along well, but I need some input. If it is powered, I have to make the tough decision between having the ext-usb plug sticking out on the edge of the board, meaning you have a 9v battery dangling from your phone or a short cable (1-2 feet) that plugs in the ext-usb port and the module rests next to you. What is the best route for this? (Ideally I would love bluetooth, but I do not have the electronic know-how for this)
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well, the project is coming along well, but I need some input from the community. 1 is a note, 2 is the important question.
1- the software will be open source. The exact format still has to be determined, but the main lead right now is java so that i can be universal for all phones (except the Iphone that will need its own app).
2- Should it be powered or not? The module is coming along well, but I need some input. If it is powered, I have to make the tough decision between having the ext-usb plug sticking out on the edge of the board, meaning you have a 9v battery dangling from your phone or a short cable (1-2 feet) that plugs in the ext-usb port and the module rests next to you. What is the best route for this? (Ideally I would love bluetooth, but I do not have the electronic know-how for this)
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Why not make all? Powered and not. Corded and not. Are you encasing the electronics? If just for the Mogul how 'bout a phone case type add on putting the IR port on the right end of the phone while you're at it so we don't have to rotate our screens? That being said, with the Mogul getting dated, how 'bout for newer phones lacking IR ports all together like the touch pro and touch pro 2? Oh, maybe someone could help you out with bluetooth.
Well its not just for the mogul, it is going to work universally for all HTC phones and will be one little tweak away from working with other phones.
As far as corded or not, I think I will make it non corded and then you can just add it. It will cost a few cents extra but save alot on production costs of 2 different modules (if I go with powered, unpowered can easily be both).
The reason I am not doing powered and unpowered is that the powered requires a case and a battery and starts getting a little big (the size of half a thumb approximately), while the unpowered one is about 0.5mmx0.5mm. Also, making the powered one requires a much greater production cost as it would be made in china because if I make it myself, the powered one would be about 4 inches by 2 inches as I can't make the small traces myself, many of the parts are hard to come by and suftace mount is hard to do.
The reason that none of the programs work is because they require raw IR port access, not the IRDA protocol.
dj13241 said:
The reason that none of the programs work is because they require raw IR port access, not the IRDA protocol.
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Thats ok, this is a hardware\software combination so the IR will work.
I think I love you man. I've been looking for this since before I got my Mogul in my hands.
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I think I love you man. I've been looking for this since before I got my Mogul in my hands.
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lol I hear ya. Everything is being delayed because the store I usually go to was selling IR LEDs for 4 bucks and they don't specify voltage so I had to order some online. I just need to get that stupid LED so that I can be done with the hardware and get working on the software.
I am still waiting on those diodes. I bought molding and casting material so that our IR emitters will look better than a loose set or components soldered on an extusb port
Anyone going to china who can buy ExtUSB ports for 50 cents with the breakout port? I got that quote from a company but I don't like sending unsecured payments and 10$ per extusb port + breakout board is going to make it pretty expensive for us. If so, let me know, I would like to buy a batch.
thanks.
since our device will work on many phones, instead of creating threads in every forum of every device, we decided to opt for a twitter account where we will keep everyone up to date on this project.
Spread the word!
http://twitter.com/wrctweets
Found this thread searching for a Bluetooth to IR converter, so I could use my Rhodium as a universal remote.
I was wondering... since all modern smartphones have Bluetooth, why not make a powered BT -> IR converter, which uses the HID standard? Since most phones have a HID application already (my old SE K750i could be used to control my desktop computer with HID), you don't need a lot of development on the phones itself. You'd need a way to program the conversion table (key 5 -> send PLAY IR sequence), I guess. You could then have a simple HID remote on simple phones or a full blown custom skinnable remote on a WVGA smartphone.
It would really be nice to have a Philips Pronto (or similar) universal remote where you can operate all sorts of equipment.
unfortunately, working with bluetooth at that level would be well beyond my expertise and bring the cost up $$$$$ because of the low volume of production. Also, making the drivers for this would be much harder and way to phone-specific, killing the intent of this device. Also, the way this works, it should work with any standard IR device.
I have a p4000 and am upgrading to a touch pro2, when I upgrade again in 2 years, I don't want to have to start the project over .
Finally, bluetooth device = more components = bulkier and = batteries!
I am getting back home late tonight and I will get back to work on the project (got the LEDs the day I was leaving).
ps. I do appreciate all feedback and comments.
thank you
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unfortunately, working with bluetooth at that level would be well beyond my expertise and bring the cost up $$$$$ because of the low volume of production. Also, making the drivers for this would be much harder and way to phone-specific, killing the intent of this device. Also, the way this works, it should work with any standard IR device.
I have a p4000 and am upgrading to a touch pro2, when I upgrade again in 2 years, I don't want to have to start the project over .
Finally, bluetooth device = more components = bulkier and = batteries!
I am getting back home late tonight and I will get back to work on the project (got the LEDs the day I was leaving).
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sorry for being off topic, but do you know when the touch pro 2 is coming out in Canada ? And who's gonna get it telus, roger, fido or bell ?? (hope this is coming to Telus)
hehe, its out with telus waiting for mine in the mail now!
Inbound Ir
Will your Module accept inbound ir transfer? I am using a polar hr monitor that uses ir to download files to my phone. I've been looking for an upgrade option with ir without success. If your module will work, this is great news. Keep up the good work.
I wanted to hear from the users what their experience has been with Lapdocks and/or webtop. Id like to know what and how you are using your lapdock. and to those that are using webtop over hdmi or the docking station, what things have improved your productivity at work and home.
Im trying to weight the pros and cons. of course the cons are always that little thing called $$$. not sure how i would utilize these products and want to know how the current users are.
is it just the "i can do this with my phone" or have they made youre life better?
and to give you an idea, my workstation consists of a HP EliteBook thats never open and directly connected to my 32inch LCD. so im also thinking about the idea of doing a KVM switch and have the ability to toggle between the two at the office. This would leave my desk clean and simple. BUT, that doesnt do anything for me at home and travels (but then again i have a laptop, so i dont see where the need would be) and a HDMI KVM switch is not a cheap solution either.
Thoughts?
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I wanted to hear from the users what their experience has been with Lapdocks and/or webtop. Id like to know what and how you are using your lapdock. and to those that are using webtop over hdmi or the docking station, what things have improved your productivity at work and home.
Im trying to weight the pros and cons. of course the cons are always that little thing called $$$. not sure how i would utilize these products and want to know how the current users are.
is it just the "i can do this with my phone" or have they made youre life better?
and to give you an idea, my workstation consists of a HP EliteBook thats never open and directly connected to my 32inch LCD. so im also thinking about the idea of doing a KVM switch and have the ability to toggle between the two at the office. This would leave my desk clean and simple. BUT, that doesnt do anything for me at home and travels (but then again i have a laptop, so i dont see where the need would be) and a HDMI KVM switch is not a cheap solution either.
Thoughts?
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Im using the docking station and it has been great for me I find myself hardly using my laptop anymore which is also hooked up to my flat screen
as far as the web browsing goes its not as fast as the laptop but I have the wireless keyboard also and it makes a huge comfort difference, there is about a 1 to 2 second delay for me when I click a link for the page to load completely,, honestly I say give it a try and if you dont like it just return it,,, but I think you would really like the wireless keyboard it literally replaced my laptop I can do all my work from my phone now, its great,,
Using the HD dock with a portable wireless keyboard/mouse. Even though I wish it would do more it does make the phone more functional. Think it all depends on what type of apps you need to use. It makes it very nice when traveling to take the place of a laptop but in the office there are just too many Windows apps I need that won't run on my phone.
If I traveled more I know it would be a very nice feature to have.
I use my Lapdock daily for just about everything. I have found most useful replacements and with Logme In I can control all my PC's or Servers.
I also use the HD Dock which is connected to a 32 inch TV.
I like the device and all it offers.
Motorola is coming out with a lapdock for the Photon and Bionic/Other Future Devices... Model 100.
Let's see how they price it though....
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Let's see how they price it though....
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According to http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/10/15/ctia-lapdock-100-hands-on-for-sprint-photon-4g-coming-1021-video/, it will be priced around $250 at the Sprint Store. For more information, click on the link and watch the Fall CTIA Motorola Photon 4G Lapdock Accessory Video.
Cool. Thanks
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Cool. Thanks.
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One quick thing, xTMFxOffshore, I wanted to let you know that we all appreciate your contribution to the forums, and I wanted to personally thank you.
I haven't really done much Man. I'm not a Dev. So I just try to help where I can. But no problem.
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As in, real ones. full sized. maybe I missed it but... that's a pretty serious hindrance, in the end. functional connectivity is what's really setting Android apart from the iPad. I honestly think it's a major reason why Android tablets aren't really taking off. all the manufacturers are trying to mimic the iPad, including its limitations. they don't seem to realize they aren't supposed to be targeting people who want iPads; they're supposed to be targeting people who dont want them.
It's also a pretty serious problem given Android's new official ability to connect to game controllers thrrough USB. I know there's ana adapter for some tablet's, but lets face it, those are going no where. people dont like getting another extra adapter just to get basic things like that to work. this is after already using the cable to connect, and after getting the controller. that's 3 things to have just for people to play games well.
good luck with that sales pitch, OEMs.
wow. this is disappointing.
There are two which have been the most popular next to the kindle (which is a piece). the toshiba thrive has usb ports directly on the tablet, the transformer has them on the dock. Both also have a hdmi plug and micro SD, at least I think the new thrive does, I know the original did.
Both of those were pre CES though. Big CES announcement was the 250$ 7" quad core memo370t by asus. No USB on that though I'm pretty sure, most likely a micro SD.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 that I purchased last year. There's been a lot of talk (last fracking year) about Miracast, WiDi, and how great it will be to mirror my device. Here we are in May 2013, and the tech is still garbage or non-exstent. I'd appreciate it if someone could help me. Here's the scenario:
My family (like many of yours) is completely perplexed by the function of a TV remote's "Input" button. Once they have to change the input on the TV, all hell breaks loose and I end up having to "fix" everything by pressing the input button to get the TV to the right input again. My family currently owns 2 iPhones, an iPad, and an iPod. I built a Windows 7 Media Center PC with a 5.1 speaker system that we use as our cable receiver, 3D Blu-ray player, media streamer, music player, and AppleTV receiver. Since everything is built into that one box, no one has to change an input, and all is harmonious. The main focus is the AppleTV receiver feature, which is accomplished using a program called AirServer. It's great because anyone can click on the Airplay button on their iDevice and a window automatically pops up on the PC, maximizes, and mirrors the iDevice. No changing inputs. Great, right?
I, however, have a Galaxy Note 2, and the one feature I desperately want is garbage on this device: mirroring. I don't want to stream something through DLNA (because only a limited amount of files/formats/apps support it). I don't want another box sucking up power and requiring me to switch inputs on both my TV and speaker system. All I want is to mirror my device to my PC in the same manner that Airserver lets me mirror an iDevice on my PC. So far, this seems bleak and far-fetched. There are no PC software options to mirror my Android device onto a PC. Besides, even if I were to buy a dongle, the Samsung Allshare Cast dongle is quite possibly the most infuriating piece of crap I've ever used. It stutters, pixelates, and puts my audio/video so far out of synch that it's useless. On top of it all, my Wifi (for internet, on the Note 2) disconnects when using Miracast/WiDi. I tried the Netgear PTV3000, which is also a stuttering, unreliable mess of a device. I'm also not going to root my device. It's 2013, and I shouldn't have to sacrifice receiving OTA updates because Google dropped the ball.
So here's the question: is there a way to mirror my Android device on a PC without rooting or buying another box/dongle? I'd like to keep my Android phone, but I'm switching back to Apple if September rolls around and I'm still going through this. I'm not a fan of the company, but Airplay mirroring just works. No downloading 20 video players and 6 codec packs. No out-of-synch issues with audio. No dropped WiFi. No family members complaining that they "broke" the tv because it's on the wrong input. I want all that on my Android phone.
Thanks
Then I would just go back to apple. As this feature will always be manufacturer spicific so you will have to do it the way that OEM requires and alot of android things will never play well with anything apple. Mainly not Samsung.
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zelendel said:
Then I would just go back to apple. As this feature will always be manufacturer spicific so you will have to do it the way that OEM requires and alot of android things will never play well with anything apple. Mainly not Samsung.
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Yup, it sure seems that way. Samsung stuff only seems to work with other Samsung products. My options are that crappy dongle they make or buy a $1500 TV just to mirror my phone. No thanks.
My biggest complaint about Apple now is the damn lightning connector. I get why they made the 30-pin dock connector when they did, but Micro USB has been around for a while and has the bandwidth to handle everything going in and out of that phone. Making another proprietary connector was just a huge slap in the face to consumers everywhere.
well im sure there are a billion of these threads but heres mine because im special :3; so pretty much i want one of these to play games/emulators so it needs to be fast (dual or quad core higher than 1.2ghz)and occasionally watch Netflix (i have a chromecast for that though) but it obviously has to have wifi, and i would really want Bluetooth with it so i can hook up my controller to it. i dont know if ram is important you guys would have to tell me if what would be the best, im not interested in putting a custom rom in it probably just rooting it. as for controlling it i sill do not understand how to control it, i see that some come with remote controllers but how would you know which one comes with one. i was thinking this one but not sure
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-CX-...qid=1388629673&sr=8-15&keywords=android+stick oh and it has to be on amazon because that is where all my money is at lol, i only got 100 bucks so i would rather not spend a little more than that. oh and i see there are some sticks that are 720p and 1080p so im not sure which i would like would the 720p be like what i stream on my tablet when im watching netflix?
anyone? im now looking at the minix series, i see that stick forms overheart so minix neo G4 looks like its out of the picture, the minix neo x5 looks awesome and the specs are perfect but i still dont know if 1gig of ram is enough, the price is right around my alley and the minix neo x7 looks great too with that upgrade to 2gigs of ram but a little over the price i wanted to spend, also i see there are mini versions of these two devices, is there a difference? or is it smaller.
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anyone? im now looking at the minix series, i see that stick forms overheart so minix neo G4 looks like its out of the picture, the minix neo x5 looks awesome and the specs are perfect but i still dont know if 1gig of ram is enough, the price is right around my alley and the minix neo x7 looks great too with that upgrade to 2gigs of ram but a little over the price i wanted to spend, also i see there are mini versions of these two devices, is there a difference? or is it smaller.
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I purchased one of the stick systems a year ago and wasn't really impressed with it. the WiFi is bad and the whole thing seems flaky. In fact i was just here looking for a custom rom for it. I am looking at getting a slightly larger on with ethernet plug and multiple usb ports
(A10-A20WS Andriod 4.2.2os Dual Core 1080P HD Smart TV Box 1GB DRR3+4GB Nand Flash Streaming Media Player Android TV Player White )
also on amazon. The little one only had 1 usb port so i could only have a keyboard mouse combo or one or the other. I am also partial to being wired since i have multiple laptops, phones and tablets already on my Wifi.
Good Luck with whatever you pick
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I purchased one of the stick systems a year ago and wasn't really impressed with it. the WiFi is bad and the whole thing seems flaky. In fact i was just here looking for a custom rom for it. I am looking at getting a slightly larger on with ethernet plug and multiple usb ports
(A10-A20WS Andriod 4.2.2os Dual Core 1080P HD Smart TV Box 1GB DRR3+4GB Nand Flash Streaming Media Player Android TV Player White )
also on amazon. The little one only had 1 usb port so i could only have a keyboard mouse combo or one or the other. I am also partial to being wired since i have multiple laptops, phones and tablets already on my Wifi.
Good Luck with whatever you pick
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thanks for the advice! i was thinking of the box instead since i see that it has ethernet witch would be perfect!