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I was thinking, for AOSP ICS roms, either an apk could be created, or flashed into roms, that repurposes the menu button as the task switcher button, like on the Galaxy Nexus (Prime). Since the menu "button" is essentially in the app itself, the menu capacitive button becomes superfluous. Also, I've never had a phone or rom where holding down the home button acts as quick as just pressing the TS button on the Nexus Prime.
So, instead of the following buttons:
Home/Menu/Back/Search
We would have:
Home/Task Switcher/Back/Search
I like the idea of making it an app, as some would want to leave the buttons the way they are, whereas others might think this is a good idea. I hope the Cyanogen considers this, and puts this in their "Cyanogen Settings" section.
Here are a couple of threads that talk about the same thing, albiet in different phone forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347998
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315075
Maybe you could use the bottons as quick launch icons. Allow the user to pick apps that the buttons would launch.
i think thats a great idea. i felt the same way when i read the features of ics
it doesnt seem impossible. cm7 already has the option to set program shortcuts for long pressing the the menu or home buttons, etc
Why the menu Button why not the usual home button. Instead of replacing the menu function why not replace the small icons with the ICS running apps manager.
Home & Task Manager/Menu/Back/Search
scientist343 said:
Maybe you could use the bottons as quick launch icons. Allow the user to pick apps that the buttons would launch.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Instead of having my 4 most used apps on the bottom of my home screen (Handcent, Facebook, gmail, market) that would be pretty sick to have the captivate button as quick launch buttons for those apps.
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I like the favorite apps at the bottom, id keep that, and even the home and menu and search the way they are, but id want my back button to bring up the multitasker menu when longpressing
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I would say the search button. I never use it and ICS has a dedicated search bar. But yes I agree, now with ICS my next phone will have on screen controls. It looks so nice!
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Personally, I think I'd rather have the screen real estate without the buttons moved to the screen, especially since we have the buttons anyway. That said, I'd be interested to see what could be done with a gesture area down there. Just so long as the on screen buttons are an option that can be turned off returning the capacitive button function.
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
moosh3 said:
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
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^his larger, bold text, has hurt my feelings and trampled on my dreams. I kid, I kid. I like the hardware buttons anyway, the onscreen buttons for nexus ics would take up more room anyway. I got a taste of that using the ics launcher on the market.
moosh3 said:
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
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Did you read the thread? This isn't about "on-screen" buttons. It is about changing the purpose of the existing capacitive buttons to somewhat mirror the functionality of the on-screen buttons on the Galaxy Nexus.
moosh3 said:
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
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Stick with singing Mr. Bieber, trying to sound smart isn't your thing
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Would it be possible that once community ICS ROMs start getting released like AOKP, and CM9, would the capacitive buttons be able to be disabled and then replaced by on screen buttons? I was having this thought because it doesn't have any physical buttons so it wouldn't be much of a big deal in terms of removing a physical key, it just removes redundancy.
I'm sure it's possible. I know that devs made the option available on Nexus S ICS ROMs, so I'm sure we'll see it on the Note ICS ROMs as well.
OMG...this would make using the S-Pen much more enjoyable. I the gestures...AKA pushing the button.
How hard would it be to implement? Would apps conflict? or is it just a simple deletion of something in system to make the buttons rendered useless? Could we permanently(untill we flash a ROM with them enabled normally) change the function to a notification light bar?
You can enable the on-screen buttons in ICS on the Note. I am not running ICS any longer so I can't remember if you can disable the capacitive ones but you can definitely enable the on-screen ones.
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I use my Nook Colors all with Button Savior to simulate hardware buttons that do not exsist and very very rarely run into any issues. There's always the little itty bitty tab on the side that you tap to pop up the needed buttons, but stay out of the way the rest of the time. Link above goes to market (refuse to call it play, so stupid), you will need to have root to use it of course. Give it a whirl if you want on screen buttons. Not sure how to disable the hardware buttons yet, although a google search may reveal someone whos already done it or even an app that will do it for you.
Touch Key Lights
Any Dev's out there that can help
Is it possible to add an additional option?
I would like to have the option so that they only light up when touched. Not when the screen is touched or any other key is pressed as is stock.
I'm aware that the lights can be turned off completely, but would still like the above option added.
Can you help.
It'd be nice if they only come on when pressed in the dark.
If they already don't come on when there is adequate light, ignore me
I would really like this option, so that I know when I have hit the button, I currently have got them off permanently.
Request from me to improve our SGS3:
- nice Arabic font
- truely nature based theme: all box shape convert to oval shape like pebble.
- extend quick panel when long tap on the icon.
- big [Clear] button on notification drawer.
Hmm i think for a better success in getting an answer this should go to
Galaxy S III Themes and Apps
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Good idea. But who can help on this mod ?
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I take no responsibility for you breaking or causing issues on your tablet. Do this at your own risk!
Disable your Galaxy Note 8.0 Capacitive Keys
What you will need:
Root
Root explorer or similar program
and Be Careful
First:
Open your root explorer or similar app
navigate to system>usr>keylayout
Second:
Make backup of sec_touchscreen.kl
Third
This step has been, found to be not needed. Skip to step 4!
Fourth:
Open sec_touchscreen.kl
find line:
key 158 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
and place a # in front of it like:
# key 158 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
then find line:
key 139 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
and place a # in front of it like:
# key 139 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
Save your changes and close the file
reboot your tablet, and you are finished.
Your capacitive buttons will not respond to your fingers, but retain functionality with the s-pen.
ENJOY!
step 3 was not needed for this guide to work!
Hey ual4720, thanks for the great guide,this is the sort of stuff we need to get some development started for our tablet.
That's more of a how-to, a mod means flashing something
will there be custom roms coming?
Thai Damen said:
will there be custom roms coming?
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I woud say yes, considering it's the same specs powering the Galaxy Note 10.1 (at least, i'm betting on this )
I'm actually sort of surprised someone hasn't tried flashing one of the Galaxy Note 10.1 roms on the Note 8 (I'm not recommending this, i'm not a developer. Just surprised no one (big kahuna's) tried this).
I can't wait until someone figures out how to make this a quick option on the drop down menu so we can toggle the keys on and off based on what we're doing
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Just to be clear - this is only suppose to disable the capacitive function of the hardware buttons, not enable the virtual on-screen buttons or anything (the latter was what I was hoping for)? Don't mean to diminish the value of the first mod to appear on this forum - I just don't quite understand the use case for this. Thanks!
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Just to be clear - this is only suppose to disable the capacitive function of the hardware buttons, not enable the virtual on-screen buttons or anything (the latter was what I was hoping for)? Don't mean to diminish the value of the first mod to appear on this forum - I just don't quite understand the use case for this. Thanks!
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I use my tablet in landscape a lot! I found it was hard to hold the tablet with both hands because I kept hitting the Capacitive keys. this is my way of solving that! I thought I would Share it.
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I hope it didn't sound like I was criticizing the patch. I was genuinely interested in how people were using this - we all have our own ways of doing things. For example, the hardware buttons have turned out to be more convenient than I expected for me because I use the tablet in bed a lot, and I find it's easier to touch the buttons if I hold the tablet upside down, so the buttons are at the top. With virtual buttons, they'd just move themselves back to the bottom!
Thanks, working good with LMT launcher.
colhavoc said:
I woud say yes, considering it's the same specs powering the Galaxy Note 10.1 (at least, i'm betting on this )
I'm actually sort of surprised someone hasn't tried flashing one of the Galaxy Note 10.1 roms on the Note 8 (I'm not recommending this, i'm not a developer. Just surprised no one (big kahuna's) tried this).
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Similar specs, but different. If you tried flashing a ROM you'd softbrick your device. There are a number of devs working on ports and I'm sure we will be seeing customs appearing soon in the future.
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Thanks a lot for sharing detail information about the Galaxy Note. This will be helpful for me to developing stuff.
Hello all,
after disabling capacitive keys, install GMD gesture control to get the same through customized swipes.
Now SNote will work without being annoyed by keys at the end of the page
Hi all,
I kinda like the HW buttons and I wished they were real buttons rather than capacitive.
Is there a way to disable them ONLY in certain apps? I would like them to be disabled when I use S notes only.
Also,
the mod mentions "Your capacitive buttons will not respond to your fingers, but retain functionality with the s-pen."
So I can actually still use the buttons using the Spen?
Thanks!
For those who tried this, I wonder what app do you use to simulate the "back" and "menu" button WITHOUT using the Stylus?
I'd love to disable the capacitive keys, but there are times when I need to bring up the menu or go back WITHOUT taking out the Stylus and drawing the gesture.
lanwarrior said:
For those who tried this, I wonder what app do you use to simulate the "back" and "menu" button WITHOUT using the Stylus?
I'd love to disable the capacitive keys, but there are times when I need to bring up the menu or go back WITHOUT taking out the Stylus and drawing the gesture.
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i use apps gesture control. can get it from playstore. the free version is sufficient for daily use unless you want to make custom gesture. go for pro.
andrianarison said:
Hello all,
after disabling capacitive keys, install GMD gesture control to get the same through customized swipes.
Now SNote will work without being annoyed by keys at the end of the page
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Good day. Could you explain "get the same through customized swipes?"
Do you mean it's possible to toggle the editing or renaming of the "sec_touchscreen.kl" file?
Even if you do this, will you need to restart every time?
theraker007 said:
I can't wait until someone figures out how to make this a quick option on the drop down menu so we can toggle the keys on and off based on what we're doing
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I 2nd this.:good:
I'm using the unofficial CM 10.2 for the note and have deactivated both buttons, but they are still glowing. Is there a way to deactivate this too?
kingofcomedy said:
I'm using the unofficial CM 10.2 for the note and have deactivated both buttons, but they are still glowing. Is there a way to deactivate this too?
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Try in the Setting, where you can disable it.
Does anyone know if this is possible in CyanogenMod for the HTC One? I don't like being limited to two buttons; I'd rather lose some screen real estate than lose my menu/back/home/taskswitcher arrangement on my Galaxy Nexus.
Alternatively, if I could get menu by long-pressing back and taskswitcher by long-pressing home that'd also be acceptable. If anyone knows either of these are possible in CyanogenMod, let me know.
(Yes, I know I can get the HTC logo to become a button, but it's not ideal.)
synaesthetic said:
Does anyone know if this is possible in CyanogenMod for the HTC One? I don't like being limited to two buttons; I'd rather lose some screen real estate than lose my menu/back/home/taskswitcher arrangement on my Galaxy Nexus.
Alternatively, if I could get menu by long-pressing back and taskswitcher by long-pressing home that'd also be acceptable. If anyone knows either of these are possible in CyanogenMod, let me know.
(Yes, I know I can get the HTC logo to become a button, but it's not ideal.)
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Just edit the build.prop.
Add this line to it. "qemu.hw.main keys=0"
It should enable the soft keys.
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Whilst that will enable soft keys, will it also disable hardware keys?
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This enables the nav bar on my HTC One. But how can i get the buttons to show and be usable?