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Hello all,
I've just gotten an Xperia S and my previous phone was the X8. As some of you might know that the X8 is very outdated and it doesn't have all these new cool features, when I first came into this forum I do not understand a single thing
So I would like to ask a few questions that has arose when I looked through the Android Development forum. Namely:
1. What is sytem.img? Is it a ROM, firmware or what ? I know this also applies to Xperia 2011 models, but I do not own them.
2. What is the bootloader issue that everyone has been raging about? And is it true that DooMLord has fixed it in his kernel?
3. What is firmware and I heard there is SG generic Italy generic etc... In X8 I think the firmware changes with each ROM but on this phone it doesn't seem so. Why would you want to flash stock firmware when you can flash custom ROMs?
4. Can Xperia S bootloader be unlocked by test point, so that DRM keys are not damaged?
5. How to root this phone? I know no one has found an exploit yet, but I read on DooMLord's thread that his kernel auto-roots the phone, and that we can flash prerooted system.img(what the heck is that) and flash a pre-rooted image(what. All this is really confusing and I really hope I can get help on this!!
6. Just checking, kernel can be boot.img, kernel.sin and kernel.elf right?
7. This is a list of terms I came across so far and I need some explaination on them.
-system.img
-firmware(just to clarify, because I thought I knew it until I read DooMLord's thread.
-fastboot drivers and fastboot binaries.
Yep I guess that's all. I do hope someone will take the time to answer these question. I'm sorry for being such a noob, but hey, everyone's got to start somewhere right? I'll be sure to thank you if you've helped me!
Every single question has been answered at least once, if not 20 times. When you use search you actually have to read too.
XperienceX8 said:
flash prerooted system.img(what the heck is that) and flash a pre-rooted image(what. All this is really confusing and I really hope I can get help on this!!
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rooted - to have root access.
pre - before, earlier, first
Work it out
I guess that's reasonable but I searched in the forums. The replies were quite vague, or maybe jut too complicated and I couldn't understand. Hoping someone would like really explain what each feature does. Btw I've search for system.img everywhere yet could not find the answer
just go to the development section!!!!
XperienceX8 said:
Hello all,
I've just gotten an Xperia S and my previous phone was the X8. As some of you might know that the X8 is very outdated and it doesn't have all these new cool features, when I first came into this forum I do not understand a single thing
So I would like to ask a few questions that has arose when I looked through the Android Development forum. Namely:
1. What is sytem.img? Is it a ROM, firmware or what ? I know this also applies to Xperia 2011 models, but I do not own them.
2. What is the bootloader issue that everyone has been raging about? And is it true that DooMLord has fixed it in his kernel?
3. What is firmware and I heard there is SG generic Italy generic etc... In X8 I think the firmware changes with each ROM but on this phone it doesn't seem so. Why would you want to flash stock firmware when you can flash custom ROMs?
4. Can Xperia S bootloader be unlocked by test point, so that DRM keys are not damaged?
5. How to root this phone? I know no one has found an exploit yet, but I read on DooMLord's thread that his kernel auto-roots the phone, and that we can flash prerooted system.img(what the heck is that) and flash a pre-rooted image(what. All this is really confusing and I really hope I can get help on this!!
6. Just checking, kernel can be boot.img, kernel.sin and kernel.elf right?
7. This is a list of terms I came across so far and I need some explaination on them.
-system.img
-firmware(just to clarify, because I thought I knew it until I read DooMLord's thread.
-fastboot drivers and fastboot binaries.
Yep I guess that's all. I do hope someone will take the time to answer these question. I'm sorry for being such a noob, but hey, everyone's got to start somewhere right? I'll be sure to thank you if you've helped me!
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1. It is an archive with all files on /system that can be flashed via fastboot.
2. This is fixed, but the fix itself is not public.
3. Stock firmwares appeared before custom ROMs and there are still only two custom ROMs that don't change much. So the stock firmware is good for average use if you don't want themes or something. There are different firmwares for different countries and carriers, customized with some local apps and/or bloatware.
4. No one tried it yet AFAIK, but DRM keys haven't been found useful.
5. You need to unlock bootloader and flash a prerooted image or DooMKernel. As I said before, system.IMG is an archive with all system files. Superuser app and su binary are added to prerooted images so that you can flash them and have instant root. DooMKernel also has these built in and it roots the device automatically on boot, so you can use it with any firmware. You can roll back to stock kernel and root will stick until you fully reflash your device.
6. The filename can be anything, what's important is what's inside.
7. Firmware is a set of files that are preinstalled on your phone. It includes Android, some media and applications.
Fastboot is a low level tool for flashing ROMs. The binary is fastboot.exe itself (fastboot ELF if you use *nix). The drivers are Windows specific files you need to make the OS recognize your device in fastboot mode.
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Hi!
This summer I'm getting my first Android phone (Xperia S), and I have some questions about rooting. I would post this in the Development section, but I don't have 10 posts.
Since I'm a power user, I want to root my phone, but since I never had a smart phone, I'm not that familiar with the rooting process. I know what bootloader and rooting itself is, but when I'm reading the guides, I'm not completely familiar with all the terms and whatnot.
I only want to root my phone, without using any special roms or anything. Should I keep my bootloader locked or should I unlock it? Does this affect the updates in any way? If I unlock the bootloader, will I still be able to update the phone or will I need to relock it?
Will I need to reroot the phone after each firmware update?
If you have any additional hints or information, I would be glad to read it.
Regards,
Klemen
The main benefit of rooting your phone is you can install any software you want, some apps need root permission, you can also customize UI, tweak performance, making a better battery life, etc.
on this device, you can relock it. If you doubt about your warranty, you can use the rooting with locked bootloader method. but you still need to relock if you want to claim your warranty in some cases. I hope you will not.
my advice is just use to your phone first, you enjoy with keyboard, texting, surfing on google play, bla bla bla. You will find the answer why you want to root or not.
I already know that I want to root my phone, the main reason is to get rid of the ads.
I'm just not sure, which is the preferred method of rooting it. I'm curious what's going to happen to future updates if I root the phone (some say, that every firmware unroots the phone).
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Hi!
This summer I'm getting my first Android phone (Xperia S), and I have some questions about rooting. I would post this in the Development section, but I don't have 10 posts.
Since I'm a power user, I want to root my phone, but since I never had a smart phone, I'm not that familiar with the rooting process. I know what bootloader and rooting itself is, but when I'm reading the guides, I'm not completely familiar with all the terms and whatnot.
I only want to root my phone, without using any special roms or anything.1. Should I keep my bootloader locked or should I unlock it? 2. Does this affect the updates in any way? 3. If I unlock the bootloader, will I still be able to update the phone or will I need to relock it?
Will I need to reroot the phone after each firmware update?
If you have any additional hints or information, I would be glad to read it.
Regards,
Klemen
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I've numbered your questions in the quote, and made them bold for easier explanation.
1. Considering your last post (you want mostly to remove ads), I would recommend keeping it locked. For rooting it and installing CWM Recovery (I can try to explain what this is, if you don't know), you can follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
2. As said by XGAdev, you must relock your bootloader if you need to send it to warranty or update using either SUS or PC Companion. But you always can use Flashtool for updating. Just download the original firware you want, put it on the right folder and flash it.
3. Well, the answer is on the second one.
Right now, you just want to remove ads. In no time you will be heavily modding it, theming,etc. This also happened to me
If you need anything else, just say it. Press the thanks button if I was helpful enough, and if you want to press it. If not, just say it
My opinion:
Keep the BL locked, so you don't loose the DRM Keys, and follow the Root with BL Locked Guide to obtain Root Acess...
Unless you really want to have a tweaked kernel you wont need to Unlock the BL
Felimenta97 said:
I've numbered your questions in the quote, and made them bold for easier explanation.
1. Considering your last post (you want mostly to remove ads), I would recommend keeping it locked. For rooting it and installing CWM Recovery (I can try to explain what this is, if you don't know), you can follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
2. As said by XGAdev, you must relock your bootloader if you need to send it to warranty or update using either SUS or PC Companion. But you always can use Flashtool for updating. Just download the original firware you want, put it on the right folder and flash it.
3. Well, the answer is on the second one.
Right now, you just want to remove ads. In no time you will be heavily modding it, theming,etc. This also happened to me
If you need anything else, just say it. Press the thanks button if I was helpful enough, and if you want to press it. If not, just say it
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Thank you very much for your help!
What about if I decide to unlock my bootloader? How can I root ICS and install CWM in that case?
KlemenKosir said:
Thank you very much for your help!
What about if I decide to unlock my bootloader? How can I root ICS and install CWM in that case?
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Just flash Advanced stock ics kernel and you will get root and cwm.
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gm007 said:
Just flash Advanced stock ics kernel and you will get root and cwm.
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What's the difference between the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel and the SSpeed Kernel? The SSpeed is supposed to increase performance, but is the difference noticeable?
KlemenKosir said:
What's the difference between the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel and the SSpeed Kernel? The SSpeed is supposed to increase performance, but is the difference noticeable?
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The advanced stock kernel is same as stock without overclocking,and default governor.
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So, when I get my phone, I just unlock the bootloader, use fastboot to flash the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel, and use the ClockworkMod to flash a ROM?
KlemenKosir said:
So, when I get my phone, I just unlock the bootloader, use fastboot to flash the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel, and use the ClockworkMod to flash a ROM?
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Yes. Pretty much that.
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Thank you for your help, everyone, this is going to help a lot!
KlemenKosir said:
Thank you for your help, everyone, this is going to help a lot!
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I bet you're like me and won't be able to stop there. And I guess that you'd want to try jelly bean and for that (at least as of today) you need unlocked one...
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elvirag said:
I bet you're like me and won't be able to stop there. And I guess that you'd want to try jelly bean and for that (at least as of today) you need unlocked one...
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Well, for starters, I'm only going to root the phone. After some time, I'll maybe consider trying other ROMs.
Any ROM can be used in Locked BL (rooted)?
Ok, well i am relevantly new to this rooting method for the android devices; so after reading through threads on rooting i have read sections on unlocking bootloader, roms, kernels and stuff and my question is. Will i be able to root my phone without unlocking it just so i can access applications that need root to run? i have no plans in adding or using custom roms on my phone and was wondering will i still be able to update my phone though the official updates? cause i have read from some threads and posts that you will not be able to update it and was wondering is it mandatory for me to unlock the bootloader while rooting....... thanks in advance for the answer and help
No. Root can be obtained only after unlockong.
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hmm ok so i will need to bootload before rooting ha..... fine so how do i do the updates through roms.... if so where can i find them and are there any threads that shows how to use them.
I would recommend you not worry about how to flash ROMs quite yet. Once you obtain root, which isn't really hard, flashing ROMs will seem easy as pie. And to flash ROMs you need to flash a kernel, which is easily done with the rooting tool posted in the development section. Good luck.
dude could you tell like tell me how to root this device, cause i have been trying to root it for a while now and cant seem to do it..... i am following this thread to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39744013#post39744013....... and i cant pass through the "adb device" section as my device is not being detected and yes all my drives are upto date... so would be greatly appreciated if i could get some help.
decoy4444 said:
dude could you tell like tell me how to root this device, cause i have been trying to root it for a while now and cant seem to do it..... i am following this thread to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39744013#post39744013....... and i cant pass through the "adb device" section as my device is not being detected and yes all my drives are upto date... so would be greatly appreciated if i could get some help.
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At which step are you stuck? I will be glad to help you, you should have posted right in the thread.
I haven't gone through the mentioned guide above, and it might be all good, but I've followed this one instead when I first got my HOX+ (now I can do it blindfolded) and it was easy to follow and worked like a charm. Give it a shot.
Just an FYI (so you don't call us liars in the future when you switch devices), but not all root hacks require the bootloader to be unlocked, it depends on the device.
Hello, I recently bought a SXZU to go with my HTC one I have. It's model number c6833 with build number 14.1.B.2.257 now it's different To HTC one obviously. Now all I want is my stock rom to be rooted and custom recovery installed just want someone to help me and poin. Me in the right direction. Thanks
nathlynn22 said:
Hello, I recently bought a SXZU to go with my HTC one I have. It's model number c6833 with build number 14.1.B.2.257 now it's different To HTC one obviously. Now all I want is my stock rom to be rooted and custom recovery installed just want someone to help me and poin. Me in the right direction. Thanks
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what you might want to do first is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502185
that will give you root access on the .257 build, and it will allow you to backup your TA partition, in case you ever want to unlock your bootloader. one thing to consider is the issue of Vroot harvesting IMEI numbers...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516942. a lot of us have used it and i haven't seen any reports of anything bad happening, and the devs of the program have said they removed in the latest version the part that sends your IMEI.
as for recovery, i haven't found a way to have custom recovery on .257. there is a kernel with recovery(for unlocked bootloaders) based on a previous build number... it is good for flashing a custom ROM, but it will not boot up on .257.
there is a recovery for locked bootloaders, but i haven't tried it, can't comment on it at all: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426739
i hope this helps as somewhat of an introduction to modding this device!
lmemma16 said:
what you might want to do first is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502185
that will give you root access on the .257 build, and it will allow you to backup your TA partition, in case you ever want to unlock your bootloader. one thing to consider is the issue of Vroot harvesting IMEI numbers...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516942. a lot of us have used it and i haven't seen any reports of anything bad happening, and the devs of the program have said they removed in the latest version the part that sends your IMEI.
as for recovery, i haven't found a way to have custom recovery on .257. there is a kernel with recovery(for unlocked bootloaders) based on a previous build number... it is good for flashing a custom ROM, but it will not boot up on .257.
there is a recovery for locked bootloaders, but i haven't tried it, can't comment on it at all: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426739
i hope this helps as somewhat of an introduction to modding this device!
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Hmm ok thanks. Is it early days yet in regards to amount of Dev support/custom recoveries/selection of roms/customising tools? As with HTC one I'm spoilt for choice. I got this phone as it's replaced my ipad mini and then some. In theory all I need is root access/ root enabled stock rom just to remove bloatware. I have read up about vroot and kingo I'm guessing at present that is only ways to root. Custom recovery isn't a major problem as could just remove bloatware and be quite happy with that. As in regards to ta partition is there a thread explaining that? Thanks
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The first sticky in the general thread has the info for backing up your TA partition.
at the moment I think I would use kingo over vroot, although on the vroot forum it looks like they say that they dont record the imei, I used vroot and aren't too worried
There is never going to be the development on this device as there is on a more popular device so don't expect 501 roms to choose from
blueether said:
The first sticky in the general thread has the info for backing up your TA partition.
at the moment I think I would use kingo over vroot, although on the vroot forum it looks like they say that they dont record the imei, I used vroot and aren't too worried
There is never going to be the development on this device as there is on a more popular device so don't expect 501 roms to choose from
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Ok then is kingo still blocked on xda
Hi, I've been going through threads in here for the last 3 months trying to figure out a way to root this thing. A lot of the threads are pretty old so I have a couple of questions about how I should proceed.
Is it still the case that the firmware needs downgraded to 4.4.2 in order to root? I have the 4.4.2 ftf file but was having some issues with flashtool (the latest version 'Emma' wouldn't open on my PC).
Is flashtool the best method? I've seen threads mentioning easyroot being the best tool but haven't looked into it yet.
KingRoot doesn't work on this tablet version. I was almost going to buy OneClick Root yesterday I was getting so frustrated because I keep hitting a dead end with this.
Great forum by the way, i'm learning a lot from reading the threads, even if I'm not having success with my device!
Same Here Ive been looking at threads and still cant find away to root my sony xperia z2 tablet the only thing ive seen is something called one click root but i dont know if it wokrs or not if your willing to test it out and it works please message me
lionelglitchie said:
Hi, I've been going through threads in here for the last 3 months trying to figure out a way to root this thing. A lot of the threads are pretty old so I have a couple of questions about how I should proceed.
Is it still the case that the firmware needs downgraded to 4.4.2 in order to root? I have the 4.4.2 ftf file but was having some issues with flashtool (the latest version 'Emma' wouldn't open on my PC).
Is flashtool the best method? I've seen threads mentioning easyroot being the best tool but haven't looked into it yet.
KingRoot doesn't work on this tablet version. I was almost going to buy OneClick Root yesterday I was getting so frustrated because I keep hitting a dead end with this.
Great forum by the way, i'm learning a lot from reading the threads, even if I'm not having success with my device!
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Just wait a little bit , here is a thread about easy rooting latest firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/recovery-root-mm-575-291-lb-t3435214
And it will be available to root Z2 Tablet also, just read whole thread and dont forget to hit thanks for @shoey63
It's not the damn stock firmware idea is it? That's a workaround by definition
Dadovvv said:
Just wait a little bit , here is a thread about easy rooting latest firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/recovery-root-mm-575-291-lb-t3435214
And it will be available to root Z2 Tablet also, just read whole thread and dont forget to hit thanks for @shoey63
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Thanks for pointing it out,
I've just rooted my SGP551 Z2 Tablet!
If someone is interested, post kernel.sin (23.5.A.0.575 or another previous MM kernel) I can add into his script like I did
Cheers!
Dadovvv said:
Just wait a little bit , here is a thread about easy rooting latest firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/recovery-root-mm-575-291-lb-t3435214
And it will be available to root Z2 Tablet also, just read whole thread and dont forget to hit thanks for @shoey63
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Thanks, i'm going to try this just now with easyroot. Only thing i'm concerned about is my build number is 23.5.A.0.570, I don't know if this matters.
Still struggling with this, wasted another few days with the continuing problems with flashtool. I downloaded shoey's zip's and renamed them .ftf. But the main problem is Flashtool doesn't detect any ftf's on my computer.
Ok so the ftf should be downloaded with Xperiafrim inculded with flashtool
the ftf should be in the .flashtool folder in your c drive
just renaming it will not work
You should be able to root now with out downgrade check the general section
then it's just a matter of sideload with adb the recovery you need then your home free
Thanks, I had a look at Xperiafirm. All it lets me do is download the latest .291 firmware which is on my device anyway. I know I must be missing something very simple.